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Lefties are colourblind; conservatives are racist. As Neil Brown notes, “this argument is advanced by the Left as if it were some sort of unchallengeable truth.”

The argument then goes that left-wingers everywhere, the ALP in Australia, Democrats in the US and social democrats in Europe, are all so tolerant and never let race enter their heads when they are making decisions. In contrast, right-wingers, the Coalition parties here, Republicans in the US and conservatives in Europe, are a lot of red-necked bigots, and on social welfare, immigration, refugee or security issues are anti-black and anti-Muslim. This line is hammered so much it is becoming part of the folklore.

But some recent research shows a different picture.

Click for the rest. Via Adrian the cabbie, lately rounding up a bunch of recent blogger interviews.

Posted by Tim B. on 07/29/2006 at 08:49 AM
    1. a lot of red-necked bigots

      That’s bigoted right there.  Also, it’s redneck not red-necked.

      1.Used as a disparaging term for a member of the white rural laboring class, especially in the southern United States.
      2.A white person regarded as having a provincial, conservative, often bigoted attitude.

      Use instead : a lot of cracker bigots

      Posted by rhhardin on 2006 07 29 at 09:12 AM • permalink


    1. Its rule No 1 in Lefterts’ Rules of Order:  anyone who disagrees is a racist or sexist bigot.  Particularly anyone who disagrees with racist and sexist social engineering projects.

      Posted by crittenden on 2006 07 29 at 09:41 AM • permalink


    1. rhhardin, as a member of the named class in good standing—I have three broken-down cars in the front yard, one at the side, and two in back—I protest your fallacious nitpick.

      “Redneck” is the noun. When producing the adjectival form, the hyphen may or may not be correct depending on context and intent. A redneck bigot identifies a full member, such as myself. A red-necked bigot is a candidate not otherwise identifiable because he or she has not yet purchased any NASCAR memoriabilia.


      Posted by Ric Locke on 2006 07 29 at 09:46 AM • permalink


    1. Ric, you *better* have a non-working washer on the front porch and at least one white-painted, turned-inside-out tractor tire planter in the yard.

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 07 29 at 09:49 AM • permalink


    1. To say nothing of a coon hound or seven under the front porch.

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 07 29 at 09:49 AM • permalink


    1. The only people who aren’t racist and bigoted….are the liars.

      Posted by rinardman on 2006 07 29 at 10:11 AM • permalink


    1. Those studies will be either denounced for being biased, or just ignored altogether.  Just like the studies that show the majority of journalists tilt very far towards the left.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 29 at 10:20 AM • permalink


    1. “Progressives” will always have a collection of smooth arguments about why they are not racist or bigoted in any way, while putting down middle-class whites, white southerners, and conservative people of color.

      I remember a young female coworker who went on and on about how liberal and progressive her parents had been in raising her and her sisters.  For instance, they had no objections at all at mixed-race couples, but she let slip that they became upset at her sister for dating a black man.  And she saw absolutely no irony or contradiction in telling me that.  I’m convinced “progressives” are simply the most unself-aware people in the world.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 07 29 at 10:34 AM • permalink


    1. “Progressive” is actually a bigoted term of art, as those who describe themselves as such inherently claim themselves to be superior to those with other points of view.  Except when Teddy Roosevelt used it, as he actually WAS superior, so he was merely describing a fact.

      Posted by crittenden on 2006 07 29 at 10:48 AM • permalink


    1. #9 Crittenden,

      TR excepted (for he really was ahead of his time in viewing African-Americans as intelligent, capable, contributing patriots and citizens), the capital P Progressives like Woodrow Wilson, Margaret Sanger (Planned Parenthood), many suffragettes, etc, were proud racists in the then-“scientifically acceptable” sense of the word.

      Even anti-war activists often admitted that they opposed the Spanish-American War (Cuba, Puerto Rico, Guam) and fighting the Phillipines Insurrection (1898-1902) because they didn’t like or want an Imperial America responsible for “Black & Brown Catholics”.

      “Progressive” is a very apt descriptive of contemporary leftism in the US.

      Posted by JDB on 2006 07 29 at 11:20 AM • permalink


    1. I’m convinced “progressives” are simply the most unself-aware people in the world.

      That’s all well and good if it was just an interesting factoid but the problem is they actually get to vote.

      Maybe there should be a cluebat gauntlet on the way into every polling station all voters would need to traverse before casting their ballot.

      Posted by kcom on 2006 07 29 at 11:26 AM • permalink


    1. This is one of the main reasons that, as a liberal democrat, I have established the Progressive Alliance for Change Overnight: to combat these biased, unscientific studies conducted by rightwing intellectualoids which defame the unassailability of the superior moral stance of liberals on race issues. Your donation (payable to Progressive Alliance, c/o Paco International Socially Responsible Investments, Cayman Islands) can help make a difference to me. Er, us. To everybody who seeks to live in a color blind world.

      Oh, CRAP! Wrong blog.

      Posted by paco on 2006 07 29 at 11:34 AM • permalink


    1. OK, catch this…

      Iran Prez: Turning Pizzas Into ‘Elastic Loaves’

      Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has ordered government and cultural bodies to use modified Persian words to replace foreign words that have crept into the language, such as “pizzas” which will now be known as “elastic loaves,” state media reported Saturday.

      Next up…“Male latex condoms” will now be known as “elastic loves”.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 07 29 at 11:36 AM • permalink


    1. Oh, CRAP! Wrong blog.

      Yes “Wrong blog” syndrome. Symptoms, use of the phrase “Oh, CRAP”, the twitches, slurping coffee and making farting sounds, with ones armpits. It’s God awful, I tell ya’…lol.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 07 29 at 11:41 AM • permalink


    1. #4,5 Jorg—no, sorry, the fridge (not a washer; that’s just common) had to go to the scrap metal dealer to finance my last six-pack. And I only have three dogs: a laid-back Dalmation, a hyperactive Labrador, and a very old fuzzy creature of some kind. I do have eleven cats (or, at least, I can count that many; there may be more.)


      Posted by Ric Locke on 2006 07 29 at 11:44 AM • permalink


    1. #13: You mean that the Iranians are countering Bush’s plastic turkey with . . . plastic pizza?

      Posted by paco on 2006 07 29 at 11:45 AM • permalink


    1. Little known etymological fact:  “Progressive” is actually short for “pro-retrogressive.”

      This reflects the fact that the so-called progressives, rather than desiring to move forward as the name suggest, actually wish to devolve society to an imagined state of noble savagery, ruled by benevolent proto-commies who distribute wealth equally, live in harmony with nature and other happy peoples of the jungle and the plain. Entire villages of these remarkable people raise diverse multi-cultural children who are miraculously able to defeat all internal and external threats by using their words. Societies actually existed that incorporated some of these practices, usually in concert with other practices such as cannibalism, self-mutilation, pig worship, head-shrinking, crippling bungee jumps with vines around the ankles, slash-and-burn farming techniques, forest fire and stampede-off-the-cliff hunting methods, etc.

      The progressive view is the result of jumbled anti-imperialist anthropology of the 20th century, filtered through the barf-strainer, as it were, of hippy wishful thinking, which removed the chunky substantial bits and reduced it to a revolting puddle of bile.

      Look it up.  It’s in the OED. Honest. Progressive, (adj.) from the Hippy English “Pro-retrogressive.” Origin: chiefly moronic.

      Posted by crittenden on 2006 07 29 at 11:46 AM • permalink


    1. Except Teddy Roosevelt, of course, whose correct use of the word predated all this nonsense.

      Posted by crittenden on 2006 07 29 at 12:00 PM • permalink


    1. So I’m listening to this pro-abortion (why should she pay for those kids on welfare?), anti-Bush (she’d give him a kick in the ass if she had a chance!), anti-Black conservative (that Clarence Thomas is an Uncle Tom!) woman at work drone on and on, and she says, “My mail was delivered to the wrong desk, probably because of DumbTommy.”  That’s how she said it:  “DumbTommy,” as in one word.

      Tommy is our mail clerk, and is a helpful, nicely-mannered, gentle man.  He is also MR, or developmentally-disabled.

      I said, “WHO delivered your mail wrong?”  She replied, “That DumbTommy.”

      I repeated, in the vain hope subtlety would get through to her, “WHO?”


      As progressive as anyone who’d lock up a MR or mentally-challenged person in the attic, that’s her…

      Posted by ushie on 2006 07 29 at 12:56 PM • permalink


    1. crittenden, you have the sources and origins of the memes correct, but the assembly was done in Nevskiy Prospekt. The overriding requirement was to justify the activities of the Russian Empire by excusing them as “socialism.” So, for instance, it was necessary to find a way to characterize a private citizen opening a McDonalds as “imperialist” and military action leading to installation of a pro-Soviet regime as “national liberation”.

      In retrospect, it’s clear that the propagandists of the USSR didn’t originate or invent much; they primarily served as coordinators, so that, for instance, British “progressives” didn’t directly contradict American or French ones, and the principles were not misapplied. The incoherence and absurdity we’re seeing now is the decay of the system without adult supervision. After all these decades of believing seventeen impossible things simultaneously very few of the individual leftists are actually capable of rational invention, even within the system they adhere to.


      Posted by Ric Locke on 2006 07 29 at 01:00 PM • permalink


    1. Ric

      You have correctly identified another manifestation of this natural human march to zero as predicted and outlined by one Karl Marx, who said if I am not mistaken “Think international socially, slaughter and enslave locally.”  His cockamamie ideas were adopted by moss-bearded bark-eating forest dwellers and adapted to their unique and carefully guardianed environments around the global village.

      Posted by crittenden on 2006 07 29 at 01:16 PM • permalink


    1. Crittenden:

      Don’t get too wrapped around identifying the origin. Marx has three components, entwined as they are: an excellent, even brilliant, summary of classical economics based on the concept of “intrinsic value”, a discussion of what happens if classical economics continue to be valid, and a set of prescriptions for what to do about #2. For the most part he’s pretty much the equivalent of the physicians he was contemporary to—diagnosis excellent within the limits of what was known at the time, prognosis quite plausible given experience, prescription—leeches? bleeding?  arsenic therapy? give us a break. For all that Marxism is, in fact, a version of liberalism—Marx’s exhortations are for autonomous (“free”) individuals to combine their efforts for the Cause.

      It’s worth remembering that Marxism was pretty much ignored, except in the United States, where people quite properly ignored Marx’s prescriptive writings and concentrated on destroying classical economics and replacing it with something that worked better. (Today’s “capitalist” shares little but the name with the folk Karl was on about.) In Europe it got few or no adherents, because Europeans are all about elitism and Marxism at that point was rather relentlessly egalitarian.

      But Marxists just before and after the turn of the twentieth century managed to twist one of Marx’s basic ideas into the notion of the “cadre” or “vanguard of the Proletariat”, an educated subset of the People who would lead the Masses to True Socialism. Having thus redefined Marxism as a fundamentally European system—that is, it includes a Nobility of some type—they, in the persons of Ulyanov, Trotsky, et. al., went on to at least preliminary success.

      Most of the tropes that we consider “Marxist”, especially the ruthless Rousseavianism misnamed “multiculturalism”, derive from the thinkers of that period, and use Marx (if at all) as a source of bons motstaken out of context to support their concepts. And since the proposals made during that time simply don’t work and usually make things worse instead of better, a good chunk of the problems we have today are derived ultimately from the futile flailing of people trying to support them anyway. Ol’ Karl’s ideas don’t work either, because the entire economic system has been completely changed from what he described, but don’t blame him for the moonbats—he’d be as horrified by Galloway as any of us, I think.


      Posted by Ric Locke on 2006 07 29 at 04:07 PM • permalink


    1. Uh yeah, like I said … moss-bearded bark-eaters everywhere have flocked to it

      Posted by crittenden on 2006 07 29 at 04:13 PM • permalink


    1. 16 Paco

      You mean that the Iranians are countering Bush’s plastic turkey with . . . plastic pizza?

      Yep…And to celebrate the Persian achievement, Kennedy, Dean, Pelosi, Durbin are flying over to break ground on the brand new Imam John’s Plastic Pizzeria. The NYT is covering the event, too.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 07 29 at 04:26 PM • permalink


    1. Ooopppsss

      The brand new Imam John’s Plastic Pizzeria Elastic Loaf, Truck Stop and Centrifuge Parlor.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 07 29 at 04:30 PM • permalink


    1. 25: Hilarious! Although how do you get all that on one sign?

      Posted by paco on 2006 07 29 at 06:02 PM • permalink


    1. Paco

      Although how do you get all that on one sign?

      Easy deal…I grabbed my brand new handy dandy, super special, just arrived from a TV ad, all for only $19.95$14.95, (because I called within 30 seconds) Plastic Elastic Left and Right Handed with built in Remote Control to Flip Open Every Garage Door in this CitySign Stretcher.

      AND, I got a complete set of Ginsu KnivesFREE.

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 07 29 at 06:26 PM • permalink


    1. WOW! The Plastic Elastic Left and Right Handed with built in Remote Control to Flip Open Every Garage Door in this CitySign Stretcher company just called.

      They entered my name in a drawing and I won. Yep, a Complete Unabriged Encyclopædia Britannica One Volume Set.

      Damn, I better play the PowerBall Lotto, tonight. I mean with that kinda’ luck, I’m a shoo in…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 07 29 at 06:47 PM • permalink


    1. Rabid left wingers are generally hypocrites, willing to sell their souls to the devil to further their pet cause.  For example, I read somewhere that the 1960’s feminists received financial backing from Hugh Hefner, WTF!

      Posted by spyder on 2006 07 29 at 07:07 PM • permalink


    1. The Thought Police had better get their progressive arses around to Kim Beazley’s joint and haul him off to the nearest Re-Education Centre before he has any more to say about John Howard allowing those dreadful foreigners temporary work Visas.Yes I know he was only sucking up to his Union bosses but it really did have a rascist tinge to it unless of course he was applying the “Positive Rascism” rule that allows Champions of the Left to indulge in various forms of discrimination and vilification.

      Posted by Lew on 2006 07 29 at 08:39 PM • permalink


    1. #19 Ushie, that is appalling. Did she ever get hit with the cluebat as to what she was actually articulating? And why the word “hypocrite” might want to worm its way into the cereal between her ears?

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 29 at 08:48 PM • permalink


    1. Remember those Camelot Time soooo idealistic ‘liberal Kennedys’? I do.

      1. Bobby K. worked as a lawyer for Sen. Joe McCarthy [Dem] for six months, pushing his agenda. Who, generally, knows that!

      2. Bobby, as A-G, tried to stop the Freedom Rider buses going south, because of his brother’s southern strategy for re-election.
      Both were ‘in no hurry’ on civil rights.

      3. The Kennedys tried to assassinate Castro several times using the CIA.

      4. As for ‘Feminism’, both Kennedys were press-protected sexual predators very similar to Clinton. There has never been a Republican equivalent.

      5. I just saw a TV bio on Bobby that fails to mention or show Ted Kennedy at all in 50 minutes, as if he didn’t exist, sort of USSR-style.
      That’s how proud they are of the Surviving One..

      Posted by Barrie on 2006 07 29 at 08:59 PM • permalink


    1. Elastic loaf?  And I thought Freedom Fries sounded stupid.

      Personally, I prefer that my unhealthful grease-laden culinary delights have infidel names.  I particularly like the fact that the fried potato is the most ubiqitous and probably enduring aspect of French culture.  Long after the Eiffel Tower has rusted, after they have forgotten what they used to call the end of the week and what the academy wanted them to call the Internet and all that, the French fry will live on.

      Posted by crittenden on 2006 07 29 at 09:38 PM • permalink


    1. #28 One powerball and I’m out of here…

      Posted by crash on 2006 07 30 at 06:57 AM • permalink


    1. #31, Arbed, oh, Hell no.  Everything she thinks, she thinks is correct.  There’s no arguing with her.

      Posted by ushie on 2006 07 30 at 12:30 PM • permalink


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