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Michael Gawenda in the Sydney Morning Herald:
Why is that for all the hundreds of journalists covering the conflict, there was no great attempt to expose the massive corruption of Fatah under Yasser Arafat which most journalists knew about and which led to the squandering of billions of aid dollars that could have been spent, should have been spent, to give the Palestinians an economic future?
Good question. Meanwhile, Hamas attempts to cope with violence that has left four dead:
Said Siam, the newly appointed Hamas interior minister, appealed for calm and warned that his government would clamp down heavily on armed groups who used their weapons against each other rather than in the struggle against Israel.
“We will ensure that nobody is above the law and demand an end to the instability and armed chaos,’’ Mr Siam said.
That’s Hamas talking. It is to laugh.
Why would we expect journalists to tell the truth about Fatah when they freely admitted (cough—CNN) that they concealed war crimes information about Saddam so they wouldn’t lose access.
-BrucePosted by GayPatriot on 2006 04 03 at 01:52 PM • permalink
- From Tim Blair Post 3/27/06:Dr. Aziz Dweik, Hamas-nominated Speaker of the Palestinian Legislative Council:“OK, yes, it happened, we did suicide attacks but now there is a truce. We deplore any action where civilians are killed, yes, including Israeli civilians. We are a moderate Islamic movement. We are not terrorists. We are freedom seekers. Please, tell your readers, please help us secure this goal.”
THREE DAYS LATER
3/30/06 3 Israeli civilians killed by suicide bombers.
FOUR DAYS LATERFri Mar 31, 2006 7:16 AM ET Reuters By Nidal al-Mughrabi
GAZA (Reuters) – The Islamist group Hamas defended on Friday a suicide bombing that killed four Israelis…..
- How can any civilized person give credence to an organization that believes and practices child sacrifice for its own ends?
The SMH scratches its pencil head in wonderment that the MSM did not document the massive corruption of Fatah, but how about the killing of Palestinian children by enabling their use as bombs to kill other innocent people? Where is the MSM on this? (There are research challenged lefties who troll this blog who question that Hamas is guilty of this horrendpous crime. Just a few months ago even the MSM was full of the story of a retarded youngster who was persuaded to act as a bomb by Hamas. I guess lefties don’t read so well. Here’s a hint: Google Hamas suicide bombers children and you will find thousands of relevant articles. Just to mention one :New York Review of Books, 1/16/03, Vol. 50, #1 review of “The Suicide Bombers” states “There was outrage among Palestinians when Hamas started sending children on no-escape missions in the Gaza Strip.” Didn’t stop the Paleos from voting in these criminals.)
Hamas is guilty of even more crimes against its own people: Wikipedia.org.“Hamas has used female suicide bombers, including a mother of six and a mother of two children under the age of 10.”
I guess it’s now time for them to start a genocide against the people who helped them to power. Like the Communists when they came to power in Russia.
- Um… shouldn’t Mr. Gawenda be asking himself some relevant questions about why he has concentrated so heavily on slamming red states/the present U.S. administration/conservatives instead of the people who are doing actual damage in the world?
As for Hamas, as I posted in another thread, you reap what you sow.
- For the same reason that some journalists are now frightfully concerned about China’s lack of democracy, and China’s human rights record? It fits the currently required narrative, which is opposition to uranium exports and the widening of the crazy restrictive three mines policy.
Human rights and democracy are desirable and achievable to greater or lesser degrees in various countries only as a servant of other agenda items.
Stand by for ALP Contortion Circus.
- One moment you’re calling for the destruction of Israel and taking part in a brutal war against your ‘occupiers’, then the next you’re “appealing for calm” and trying to organise the garbage collectors.Posted by LeftieLatteLover on 2006 04 03 at 06:45 PM • permalink
- I wonder if Sharon didn’t foresee all of this… Pull out, put up a wall, watch them implode.Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2006 04 03 at 07:32 PM • permalink
- Gawenda: The incoherent babblings of a pretentious fool.Indeed, what it means in this conflict is that each side denies almost totally the historic narrative of the other.This is not an original insight
It’s not an insight at all. This moral equivalence by an idiot is only gently pricked by his recognition of a fact in his last paragraph. He should excuse himself. Isin’t he the one that made the idiotic statement that there are too many facts here?
(What the hell does that mean?)
A significant proportion (of reporters)did not come (to Israel) with the burden of too much history weighing on their shoulders. This is not meant as a criticism. Journalists are not historians but rather imperfect and often bewildered people
So reporters are not expected to know in depth the history (background) of what they have been assigned to cover. Well Gawanda certainly has not made that mistake, and we should all respect his bewilderment.
- Re #9 The studied bias over China is illustrated by an ABC interview with Falung Gong. Questioner seeking an angle on why these poor innocents are complaining about their horrific treatment: “But you are against the Communist Government, aren’t you?” [Stupid people, aren’t they!?] The FG interviewee politely avoided the obvious, deserved riposte:
That is an impertinent question. Are you a democratic country? What if I asked you “But you are against the Liberal Party, aren’t you? Does that somehow excuse persecution?”
The ABC type thought it did, apparently.
- Achilles, I’m worried about how Hamas will handle the “Brutal Palestinian Summer.” (Or is it “The Brutal Palestinian Winter”? I get them confused, sometimes. Also, do quagmires freeze over, or at least firm up some, in a “Brutal [insert geographical are or country name of choice here] Winter”?)Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 04 03 at 11:08 PM • permalink
- #13, Elly, I don’t know if Sharon foresaw the Pali implosion, but I recall it being discussed in the blogosphere a couple years ago. By Steven den Beste, as I recall.
It has just taken a bit longer than predicted, is all.Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 04 03 at 11:34 PM • permalink
- A calm for calm:
“We got! no more! bullets!”
(hat tip to Richard Pryor)Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 03 at 11:46 PM • permalink
- Seems to me that in countries where there is an excess of population, not much prosperity, such as Palestine/China , life is cheap, as long as it is not your own.
So you can throw as much of it away as you like because there is no shortage.
Hence the young used as suicide bombers, plenty more where they came from.
- #7 “Like the Communists when they came to power in Russia.” Goddammit Stats, there you go reminding the Left of the spectactular failures of unrestrained leftism. Next thing we’ll have the Zoid and
the Druze and Ms. Emily (even though she doesn’t vote for centrally planned economies) back here all in a dither because their really just agrarian reformers and we’ll have another ideological mess to clean up. Use some sense man!Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 04 04 at 12:51 AM • permalink
- Sorry, should be “they’re” not “their”.Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 04 04 at 12:57 AM • permalink
- I would like to know when the Palestinians will pay the full consequences of their actions. We enable them.
Why do they deserve humanitarian aid be given to them? They are a democracy. They voted in a terrorist organization whose actions and the ideology those actions are based on are well known. Why are we, then, separating the Palestinian people from their duly elected representatives?
It is time we stop supporting terrorism. Or did no one learn anything from Iraq and the Oil for Food scam? Remember the gold-plated palaces and the boxes of US currency? Or how food aid is manipulated all over Africa, and in the tsunami devastated areas? Or how any aid is stolen and/or manipulated to keep people enslaved all over the world? How humanitarian is it to continue to support the slow, monstrous destruction of life?
Sorry. Sometimes the stupidity and waste just overwhelms me.
- Why is that for all the hundreds of journalists covering the conflict, there was no great attempt to expose the massive corruption of Fatah under Yasser Arafat which most journalists knew about and which led to the squandering of billions of aid dollars that could have been spent, should have been spent, to give the Palestinians an economic future?
Interesting that Gawenda should ask that question, because back in early 2004, when he was editor of the Age, I wrote to him many times asking that exact same question. This was at a time when the Age under Gawenda’s direction made front-page news out of the corruption allegations against Sharon and also concidentally a time when Arafat fleeced hundreds of millions in aid money from his people – unspirsingly making it to the Forbes “rich list” ahead of the Queen of England.
I either got no answer or some very lame response as to why Sharon’s alleged corruption featured prominantly in his paper, whilst Arafat’s blatant corruption & highway robbery of his own people recieved none.
- The unfailing ability of saltydog to distill the essence and import of issues and events in such express terms is, for me, a constant source of inspiration.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 04 04 at 04:21 PM • permalink
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Damnit, those bullets are for killing Jews! Hey! You stop that! Are you boys listening to me at all???