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Former public figure Mark Latham wanted Australia to sign on to the Kyoto Protocol. Wiser politicians steer clear of the evil thing:

President Bush said in a Danish TV interview aired Thursday that adhering to the Kyoto treaty on climate change would have “wrecked” the U.S. economy … “I couldn’t in good faith have signed Kyoto,” Bush told the Danish Broadcasting Corp.

It’s too late for poor New Zealand.

Posted by Tim B. on 07/01/2005 at 01:24 AM
    1. NZ could become a tourist destination for nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, to recoup some of the damage.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2005 07 01 at 03:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. You treat comments from that thinking man’s bucket of shite with such reverence Tim.

      Wiser than Latham.  Funny.  Made my weekend.

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 03:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. Poor flute, reality must be so painful for you…

      In person Mr Bush is so far removed from the caricature of the dim, war-mongering Texas cowboy of global popular repute that it shakes one’s faith in the reliability of the modern media.

      The Bush Interview

      Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 07 01 at 03:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hey Flute, you should thank ME for not voting for that ‘thinking man’s bucket of shite’. You OWE ME OK?!!11

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 01 at 03:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. This is getting funnier by the second.  There are people who take this sponge in the White House seriously? 

      Look, I understand that your ideology happens to be the flavour of the month, but come on you guys, come clean, you must realise he is thicker than a French muff?

      Make me think better of you.

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 03:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. Did flute vote for Latham?

      Poor widdle fing. It must be hard to know you voted for the sanity-challenged.

      Posted by Quentin George on 2005 07 01 at 03:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. Come on now Fivecans, you should know that the only thing stopping Scarecrow Bush from being sanity challenged is that ‘e ain’t got no brayne.

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 03:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. ‘Flute’is satire right? is that you Treacher you magnificent bastard!?

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 01 at 03:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Flute do you have anything to contribute or is it more of the same crap that I see on your C grade blog?

      Posted by lingus4 on 2005 07 01 at 03:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. Look, I understand that your ideology happens to be the flavour of the month

      Aww, poor flute still deludes himself into believing that the Republican dominance is a flute, err, fluke. You’ll still believe that when they have 60 Senate seats after another two election cycles, no doubt.

      As for the juvenile “Bush iz moron!!!” whinging…you must be feeling pretty depressed right now to throw such pathetic stuff at us. Here kid, have a Prozac.

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 04:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. What more important contribution can I make than try to enlighten your ilk that Bush is more lies than wise.

      C grade?  You mean I passed!  Yipeee!

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 04:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. PW, as long as the best the right can get is a bloke like Bush, and as long as you reckon that, there is hope.

      As far as scintillating debate, the best you seem to be capable of is “we won nernerneenerner”. 

      How edifying, nice to see the US educational system is still turning out sound minds.  Who was it who said, “show me the child and I’ll show you a complete twat”?.

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 04:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. More on-topic, it’s good to see Bush being so nice to the Europeans and playing along with their delusions. Kyoto didn’t make it through the Senate during Clinton, Kyoto wouldn’t make it through right now, so Bush can’t sign the thing anyway.

      What I’m not sure about is whether the Euro delusion he’s playing up to is the one about his hyperpowerific omnipotence (“evil Bush unilaterally decided to reject Kyoto!”) or the one about him not really being representative of America (“I’m suuuure Kyoto would make it through the Senate, it’s just that evil Bush is threatening to veto it”)…

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 04:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. PW, as long as the best the right can get is a bloke like Bush, and as long as you reckon that, there is hope.

      As long as the left churns out blokes that periodically lose even to certified morons like Dubya, there is hope indeed.

      As far as scintillating debate, the best you seem to be capable of is “we won nernerneenerner”.

      How else to respond to your thrilling arguments? What is your argument, anyway? “We lost to a big monkey moron, neenerneenerneener…err, wait a sec…”?

      How edifying, nice to see the US educational system is still turning out sound minds.

      Wow, I’ve spent 16 years in various levels of German educational facilities and only one in the U.S., and I’m already an example of the craptitude of American education. Is this like a “one drop” theory?

      Well, maybe your assumptions about me are merely just as wrong as those you hold about Bush. Whatta surprise. Run along now, you’re embarrassing yourself here.

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 04:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. Over at Roger Simon’s place the regulars are reckoning that Bush must’ve pissed off the Left real good again in recent days, since the trolls have been out in force. I’d suggest flute’s sudden reapperance here is further evidence of that.

      Or maybe he’s just been bitten by loadedog’s loneliness bug.

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 04:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh, one more shot for the road:

      Who was it who said, “show me the child and I’ll show you a complete twat”?

      Friends of your parents?

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 04:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. It was Blair citing Bush as a fountain of wisdom that tickled me, I hadn’t heard anything else.

      I like the fact that me leaving a few comments is being heralded as the “sudden reappearance” of the left.  Brilliant!

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 04:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. Flute sez:

      Make me think better of you.

      Why?  All you can do here is post sneering comments and fling feces.  This is hardly at a level of debate.  It’s more like a spoiled child clamoring for attention. 

      This will hardly get more hits to your blog.  Perhaps you should sell pornography instead.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 04:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. PW, I’ll bet that President Bush’s recent speech to the troops at Fort Bragg finally sunk in with the leftie moonbats.  Maybe those trolls (yes, including flute) are just moonbats with popped heads, their brains are gone, and they are running on automatic.

      No, wait, they never had brains in the first place, my bad…..

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 04:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. It was Blair citing Bush as a fountain of wisdom that tickled me, I hadn’t heard anything else.

      I’m also looking for a nice lady who knows how to play the flute…

      Posted by rog2 on 2005 07 01 at 04:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. Funny about lefty types likle flute and CS,

      if they arent prattling on about poverty its all about excess opf consumption, if its not about complacency its about displaying aggression,  if its not about apathy its about activism.

      When are you guys going to get a real job that pays real money for real work, it must get awful ‘close’ all you lentil lovers living in the one caravan.

      Posted by rog2 on 2005 07 01 at 05:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. Come on flute you killed yourself in the first post, even parts of the looney left are abandoning Latham in his insanity fueled rage.

      Why not get a few of your mates and Mark Latham together and form your own party? Go on, no good wasting time here when you have a vision to carry out.

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 01 at 05:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. OT: Bundestag discussion in preparation of the vote of confidence that Schröder is planning to fail. Sounds more like an election campaign already. Would anybody be surprised if I tell you that Greens leader Fischer was playing the anti-Iraq card bigtime in his speech currently going on?

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 05:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. Now he’s railing against the Conservatives’ support of nuclear energy, oh joy. Oh, and did you know that lack of excessive environmental regulations as championed by his party is the reason that German companies aren’t present enough in markets for Diesel engine air filters and hybrid engines? Yes! The only way to spur corporations into innovating is to press down the government’s thumb on them as much as possible, according to him. What a fucking loon.

      (Unsurprisingly, the overall tone of his speech was clearly one of desperation…he knows that history is breathing down his neck. Good riddence to him after September.)

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 05:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. He’s not having a sideways go at the French is he on nuclear power? Still bitter about the EU thing perhaps?

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 01 at 05:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. Sounds like Schröder ought to hire flute as a speech writer.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 06:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. It really is weird how the KosKids continually bring up the standard loony left meme that GWB is of sub-standard intellect.

      I only wish that I was as “stupid” as GWB, a Harvard graduate (I’m not), former CEO of a multi-national company (I’m not), and a former jet fighter pilot (I’m not), and current President of the United States (I’m not).

      The infantile left, of course, have caused themselves a logical conundrum by painting GWB as an idiot:  who do they then blame for the Machievellian “stealing” of the 2000 and 2004 elections – why, none other than KKKarl Rove, the puppet-master!

      Give it up, flute – you are marching to the beat of a different tune.  The re-election of both Bush and Howard is the gift that keeps on giving, and watching moonbat heads explode for the last eight months has been priceless!

      Posted by Kaboom on 2005 07 01 at 06:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. Shake it all away….and release.  Watch out for the hate folks, Tim doesn’t like hate.

      I’ll remember this place as the melting pot of ideas.

      Anyhow, I sincerely wish you all a fine weekend with your loved ones.

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 06:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. This whole Bush-killed-Kyoto meme ignores the history of the treaty.

      When Al Gore & Co. drafted the Kyoto treaty, they made many of its provisions voluntary. In particular, they gave China and India a pass on having to cap CO2, while hammering the USA and other western nations. The US Senate, in response, passed Senate Resolution 98 by a vote of 95-0; this resolution (co-sponsored by Senators Byrd and Hagel) stated that any treaty capping greenhouse gases had to have mandatory limits that applied to all nations.

      Before a treaty becomes legally binding in the US, the Senate must ratify it. Given the overwhelming support for S.R. 98, it was clear that the Kyoto treaty was DOA. The Clinton Administration, in order to spare itself the humiliation of having Al Gore’s cherished treaty shot down in flames, never submitted it to the Senate.

      So, Bush didn’t kill Kyoto. It didn’t have a prayer of passing the Senate in 1998; and it hasn’t a prayer of passing the Senate now. All Bush did was give it the coup-de-grace.

      Posted by Urbs in Horto on 2005 07 01 at 06:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. Andrea, I know, I know, do not feed.

      Flute, in a civilised society people can debate an issue.  You raised the issue of the President of the United States being of inferior intellect.

      An invitation:  Support your contention in a logical, polite manner, or FOAD.

      Posted by Kaboom on 2005 07 01 at 06:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hi Kabbom, like it or not Tim dangled a carrot which both you and I have nibbled.  I knew what I was doing.  Did you?

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 06:48 AM • permalink

 

    1. It’s “Kaboom”, not “Kabbom”.

      Sort of like the sound made by a precision strike on an Iranian nuclear facility.

      Posted by Kaboom on 2005 07 01 at 06:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. Sorry, I thought it was “Kabbom”, the sound when a day trader hits the deck after a quick 30 stories.

      Posted by flute on 2005 07 01 at 06:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’ve banned flute for pointless feces-flinging so none of you have to bother replying to any of his little “arguments” and we can get back to the topic of the post.

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 07 01 at 07:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. GWB is a lot smarter than flute, that’s for sure.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 07:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. Not to mention GWB is much wiser than flute.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 07:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. (Oh, wait, Andrea banned him.  My bad! 8^D)

      No, Bush didn’t reject the Kyoto treaty, the US Senate did that, as Algore is the schmuck who tried to foist that joke of an agreement on the US. 

      But “Dubya” could resubmit Kyoto to the Senate, or at least endorse the protocols.  The good news is that GWB is much smarter than that, and has a better grasp of reality (i.e., “wisdom”) than his detractors credit him with, and won’t do it.

      The current break up of the treaty (or the potential economic problems looming on the horizon for those nations remaining true to Kyoto) is proof of that.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 07:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. GWB is a lot smarter than flute, that’s for sure.

      Yeah, but what does that prove? The steaming pile that most of us leave in the toilet bowel tends to be smarter than flute.

      Posted by Quentin George on 2005 07 01 at 07:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. Just so you all know, “flute” sent me an email which consisted of this one word: “Pathetic.” Here is what I replied:

      Yes, you are. I let you comment on Tim’s blog because previously you’d kept things relatively polite and at least attempted to provide reasons for your viewpoints, but “you’re all stupid Chimpy McBushitler uneducated rednecks” isn’t even worth reading, much less refuting. Use up someone else’s bandwidth—and congratulations: you are now _permanently_ banned.

      Really, I don’t know why these people still bother with this nonsense.

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 07 01 at 07:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. Sorry, I thought it was “Kabbom”, the sound when a day trader hits the deck after a quick 30 stories.

      I’m speechless. Does that mean what I think it means?

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 07:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. Who would know, PW.

      I was not in the least inclined to respond.

      This kid doesn’t even know that day-traders have not existed en masse for the last four years or so.

      It is the under-belly of the spiteful class, exposed for all to see.

      In fact, it simply reinforces for me the abhorrent link between the left and the Islamofascists:  each spouts drivel, they cannot intellectually justify or even argue their expounded “belief”, and they lack any notion whatsoever of a civilised discourse.

      Mad dogs, I’m afraid.

      Posted by Kaboom on 2005 07 01 at 08:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. Lets you know, does it not?

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 07 01 at 08:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. By the way, that business about new Iranian President Mr Armoureddinnerjacket being a main mover in the Teheran US Embassy seizure 1979 is hot news.
      Nobody should forget what an act of war that was (so much for International Law bleaters!) – bet they could not believe their lick that Carter went catatonic and could not act – at least not until way too late and with way too little. The hostages were released soon after Reagan got the nod in the next election.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 07 01 at 08:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. Lick – sort of New Zealandish for luck.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2005 07 01 at 08:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. Really, I don’t know why these people still bother with this nonsense.

      Because to acknowledge any other possibility would require questioning the self-image they’ve built up. Allowing the merest possibility that Bush isn’t a moron would require them to admit being wrong on something, and that would lead them to admitting they might be wrong in other things.

      They’re religious fanatics, for the religion of the left, and that way leads to apostasy.

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 07 01 at 08:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. How sad.. too bad.

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 01 at 08:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. #46 is for teh retarted pupet ‘fluit’!!11

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 07 01 at 08:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. re, #38:  Well, Quentin, you and I know that the feces flinging imbecile that flute is, I’m quite certain that flute firmly believes himself to be a supergenius deigning to spend a few moments with us morons.  Self-delusional to the extreme.

      This seems to be a pattern, especially since Andrea The Blogmistress enabled registration.  Most of the lefties posting here tend to be semi-polite and lucid in their debates for a while, and then suddenly they freak out, shrieking “I CAN’T STAND IT ANYMORE!!!”, and reduce themselves to jabbering moonbats preaching to us uncivilized heathens (e.g., nwab). 

      I guess they can withstand our insensitive comments for only so long.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 09:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. rhardin — We could put a Trident based in Auckland.  They’re great for the local economy…

      PW —

      Over at Roger Simon’s place the regulars are reckoning that Bush must’ve pissed off the Left real good again in recent days, since the trolls have been out in force.

      I think it’s simpler than that.  It’s the start of a new business quarter and Soros probably sent out the new checks…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 07 01 at 10:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. If you check the comments in Flute’s blog, he seems to have imploded.

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 01 at 10:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. Boy, Aging Gamer, you have that right!  flute sounds just a trifle put off.  Even more hilarious, chris sheil is consoling flute on being banned for flute’s debating techniques. 

      One comment by chris aptly describes his and flute’s comments: “Lunatics have no logic”.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 01 at 11:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. If you check the comments in Flute’s blog, he seems to have imploded.

      Guess he didn’t get the Soros check.

      Posted by PW on 2005 07 01 at 11:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. Nic White just went in and got everyone in a single sentence, nice.

      Posted by Aging Gamer on 2005 07 01 at 01:38 PM • permalink

 

    1. Bush has really put one over on the Left.
      The man’s a former fighter pilot,(the F4 Phantom),  fluent in Spanish, has tertiary education qualifications and is the P.U.S.A.
      Yet his greatest feat is to have his opponents overlook all of this and think him dog shit dumb.
      Their powers of observation and deduction are evidently as dim as their politics.
      Well done that man.

      Posted by 81Alpha on 2005 07 01 at 06:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. They won’t listen to Nic White though. Doing so would require them to act like adults, and they are clearly incapable of doing so.

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 07 01 at 06:33 PM • permalink

 

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