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Posted by Tim B. on 01/01/2007 at 11:02 AM
    1. It’s a trick! They’re trying to lull you into lowering your defenses.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 01 at 11:05 AM • permalink


    1. Ouch.  That must have hurt.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 01 at 11:24 AM • permalink


    1. Mr. Tim:

      Take a hint from the story of Timujin’s dad and don’t go to any meetings to discuss peace, especially if there’s dinner and celebrations scheduled afterward.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 01 at 11:29 AM • permalink


    1. Has anyone gone over to Tim B’s place to check that he’s ok? It must have been quite a blow to his system.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 01 01 at 11:29 AM • permalink


    1. “He should start fact-checking himself.”
      Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

      Posted by rbj1 on 2007 01 01 at 12:21 PM • permalink


    1. You know, I went over to Deltoid and posted in this apparently deleted thread a link to the Island story Tim linked,. (You can try to click on “AGW Oversold or Not” link on Deltoid’s main page) I asked if this did not somehow indicate that the “Science had been oversold”

      A couple of other commenters challanged him to link to it too. I give Lambert credit, it’s a start to beginning a rational conversation.

      Now let’s get him to look into Tuvalu.

      Posted by moptop on 2007 01 01 at 12:39 PM • permalink


    1. Tim is currently sitting in a lazy boy chair, holding onto a stein filled with mead, shaking his head and mumbling to himself.  I think it’s shaken him a bit.

      Ordinarily I would try talking to him, reaffirming his world view.  But I’d rather check his basement to see where that mead came from.  Better not be Mesopotamian.

      Posted by wronwright on 2007 01 01 at 01:40 PM • permalink


    1. Mabye you could start a joint blog: The Two Timmies?

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 01 01 at 02:23 PM • permalink


    1. Tim was very appreciative of the Mesopotamian mead I sent him for Christmas.

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 01 01 at 02:30 PM • permalink


    1. #9 I’m sure he was Andrea. You are most kind.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 01 01 at 02:37 PM • permalink


    1. How can we ever trust Tim Blair again now, I ask you?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 01 01 at 03:15 PM • permalink


    1. #11:

      That’s right! How will we know which is which now? How can we tell them apart?

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 01 at 03:18 PM • permalink


    1. “…Lambert recently incorrectly claimed Tuvaluans are fleeing to New Zealand to escape inundation by rising seas.”

      That can’t be right.  Everyone who knows anything about global warming knows that people don’t flee rising seas.  They just stand there while the water rises around them until they drown.  That’s why tens of millions of people are at risk.  That’s why we have to do something.

      Posted by kcom on 2007 01 01 at 03:40 PM • permalink


    1. So is Tim changing to suit the world or is the world changing to suit him?

      Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 01 01 at 03:45 PM • permalink


    1. kcom,

      That is kind of funny, because this is what Lambert says in his post referenced above.

      While global warming has increased sea levels, the increase to date has only been a couple of centimetres, which doesn’t seem enough o submerge an island. Let’s do some checking

      Posted by moptop on 2007 01 01 at 05:03 PM • permalink


    1. BTW, I am not a complete skeptic on AGW, I just find that the “facts”, as published in the literature, taken at face value, never seem to support the claims of the popular press or the politicians. Except, oddly enough, people like Howard and Bush.

      Posted by moptop on 2007 01 01 at 05:07 PM • permalink


    1. The major point here is that TimB is a journalist and all he did was find a couple news article which suggest an alternate reason for the island’s disappearence. But TimL is a scientist and he actually searched for real data on the story, and was therefore able to present a proper answer complete with maps and stuff. And he had a scientific explanation based on the facts like water flows downhill while rivers make deltas.

      TimL wasn’t agreeing with TimB as much as demonstrating that scientists know more stuff than journalists and can explain things, if necessary.


      Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 01 01 at 05:20 PM • permalink


    1. Mr Hienrich,
      I honestly can’t tell if you are being ironic, or even sarcastic. Give me another clue.

      Posted by moptop on 2007 01 01 at 05:33 PM • permalink


    1. Lambert is a scientist? riiiight.

      Posted by Squiffy on 2007 01 01 at 05:35 PM • permalink


    1. Lambert’s a ageing script kiddie kept in an institution.

      Posted by armageddon on 2007 01 01 at 06:00 PM • permalink


    1. Well, as Terry Lane would say, even a stopped clock is right 8.33% of the time.

      Posted by paco on 2007 01 01 at 10:23 PM • permalink


    1. the czechs are enjoying climate change

      Record New Year’s Day temperature in Prague

      Prague has seen a record temperature for New Year’s Day: it was 12.5 degrees Celsius at the city’s Clementinum weather station at 2 pm, a tenth of a degree higher than the previous record from 1921.

      mates in czecho tell me it’s a nice change from the -12 or so more usual for this time of year

      Posted by KK on 2007 01 01 at 11:06 PM • permalink


    1. Describing Tim Lambert as a scientist is a bit of a stretch – (JF Beck’s post linked). They guy is a computer programmer/lecturer. Scientist he is not. Technician yes.

      Posted by Louis on 2007 01 01 at 11:23 PM • permalink


    1. It’s the same thing here in Toronto, KK, although only it’s about 7°C contrasted with the usual -4°C (or so) for this time of year. Meanwhile they had a big snowstorm in Winnipeg, Manitoba that I assume is related to the most recent midwest US storm and the cold spell out West continues. Ironically enough the Winnipeg storm happened the same day that our CBC reran a piece on the news from this summer about how global warming was making Winnipeg’s summers so much hotter and longer that plants from warmer climates were being grown by hobby gardeners for the first time in the region, that supposedly were incapable of growing there previously (and without telling us directly if the more exotic plants couldn’t grow in Winnipeg previously or just that no one had bothered trying).

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 01 01 at 11:25 PM • permalink


    1. Sorry about the bad line break for -4°C!

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 01 01 at 11:26 PM • permalink


    1. #24 damn those evil gardening proselytes for climate change theory – they are probably the reason why every nursery in oz has run out of the waratahs i want to plant to cope with the thousand year drought scourging victoria

      Posted by KK on 2007 01 01 at 11:37 PM • permalink


    1. I’ll look for some for you, KK, the next time that I’m in Winnipeg.

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 01 02 at 12:45 AM • permalink


    1. #27 ta muchly matey – i want dark red ones & white ones for the political corner of the garden.  while you’re there, see if they have any mao’s blush paeonies (very rare)

      Posted by KK on 2007 01 02 at 10:14 PM • permalink


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