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Last updated on August 9th, 2017 at 05:49 am
Further details on those Auslim arrests in Yemen:
Two of the Australian men arrested in Yemen on terrorism charges are the sons of Abdul Rahim Ayub, the man who set up a Jemaah Islamiah cell here and fled after the Bali bombings.
The Herald can also reveal that the mother of the two brothers is an Australian-born woman called Rabiah Hutchison and is regarded by security agencies as possibly more radical than her former husband.
Ms Hutchison is in Yemen with her sons, Mohammed Ayub and Abdullah Ayub, and the Herald has been told that their tour group was joined by some of the wives of the men who were arrested on terrorism charges in Sydney one year ago.
The group – most of whom have been intensely monitored by ASIO for years – insist they went to Yemen to further their religious instruction.
And they seem to have done so.
- Former husband? Assuming he is still alive, how does divorce work in Islam?Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 31 at 12:59 PM • permalink
- In Islam, the husband says to the soon to be ex-wife,
I divorce thee,
I divorce thee,
I divorce thee,and husband is now single. Now do you see how much Islam values the institution of marriage?
Posted by Mark Razak on 2006 10 31 at 01:08 PM • permalink
- Ah, but of course, I’d forgotten that.
What about if the Mrs wants out, but decides she likes the house?
(Rather common here and stateside I believe)Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 10 31 at 01:12 PM • permalink
The Herald can also reveal that the mother of the two brothers is an Australian-born woman called Rabiah Hutchison and is regarded by security agencies as possibly more radical than her former husband.
An Auslim “Ma Barker”? What next?
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 10 31 at 01:55 PM • permalink
In Islam, the husband says to the soon to be ex-wife,
I divorce thee,
I divorce thee,
I divorce thee,You left out the part about throwing dog crap on her shoes. Or is that some other culture I’m thinking of?
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 31 at 02:13 PM • permalink
- The previous report said that all the men arrested had converted to Islam earlier this year. Surely that can’t be true of Rabiah’s boys Mohammed and Abdullah. Surely she wasn’t that derelict in her motherly duties.
A former dope-smoking hippie radical burqa-wearing jihadista; a naturalized Polish-Ozzite Islamic convert—this is quite a cast of characters. Somebody call Hollywood.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 10 31 at 02:34 PM • permalink
- #3: Wiz, I’m not qualified to get into international family law issues, but Stateside, if the marriage was entered into by US citizens US divorce law applies to its dissolution. A Muslim male might deem himself divorced on a religious basis, but the State would not. He’d have to do the whole formal law-court divorce to shed himself of his inconvenient spouse and alter/dissolve her rights to support, child custody, property settlements, etc. Can’t think the situation in Oz would be much different.
- the Herald has been told that their tour group was joined by some of the wives of the men who were arrested on terrorism charges in Sydney one year ago.
These wouldn’t be the same women all bundled up in niqab who staged a press conference and screeched through their veils that their husbands had been falsely accused, would they?
- A former dope-smoking hippie radical burqa-wearing jihadista; a naturalized Polish-Ozzite Islamic convert
And you thought we were all just a bunch of relocated crims. You naive Americans.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 10 31 at 05:21 PM • permalink
- Thank you Mr Keating! Not.
So typical of Islam this organised “protest” (if that’s how their religous culture describes this event, is typical of the lies and twists it weaves into their community and our beloved australia.
p.s. Asma, the covered pork chop daughter of the thick sheik, plucks her eyebrows in a most lustful way.
- #7 It is possible you are channelling—through cellular memory perhaps—knowledge of an ancient custom known as “Chalitzah”.
The ceremony involves the taking off of a brother-in-law’s shoe by the widow of a brother who has died childless, through which ceremony he is released from the obligation of marrying her, and she becomes free to marry whomever she desires (the ceremony need be performed with but one brother-in-law, in case you were about to ask).
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 31 at 08:02 PM • permalink
- MFloss, I was sure you made all that up. Just to be safe though, I went to Google – seems I owe you an apology.
AskMoses.com backs you up 100% on Chalitzah, adding that Yibum is not performed very often nowadays. I would have lingered to learn more but it’s just about time for the daily goat sacrifice – later, all.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 10 31 at 08:27 PM • permalink
- #20 True, rarely these days do you see brothers-in-law lining up to marry the widow of their fallen sibling.
No need to apologise, my son, doubt that ye may believe…
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 31 at 08:52 PM • permalink
It is possible you are channelling—through cellular memory perhaps—knowledge of an ancient custom known as “Chalitzah”.
No, actually it was an old Steve Martin routine.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 31 at 08:54 PM • permalink
- Terrorism – The game the whole family can play.Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 31 at 10:01 PM • permalink
- Do they have cousins in Canada named Khadr?Posted by andycanuck on 2006 10 31 at 10:50 PM • permalink
- A study tour to Yemen?
Crikey they just could have gone to the Lakemba Mosque, then down the road to Melbourne to visit Brunswick’s own resident religious expert and teacher Sheikh Omran
Good to know that ASIO were watching and may have had a hand in dobbing them in
And they may end up in Guatanamo Bay is that right?
Oh no – then we’ll have to put up with more handwringing
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 31 at 11:01 PM • permalink
- #27 Heh.
Knowing old Hank #8, it would have been removed at the ankle…
Levirate marriage fell into desuetude with the wise decision of the Rabbis at the time of Yavneh to formally invest the distaff side with establishment of lineage (after all, you always know who the mother is, eh?)
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 11 01 at 01:54 AM • permalink
- it really is nice to see that they’re keeping with fine established religious traditions…
first they wander the world looking for religious enlightenment, then – assuming they haven’t blown themselves up first – they ‘retire’ to a 6×8 cell to contemplate and pray for the rest of their lives.
now all they need is the a high enough IQ to leave the rest of us out of the process and go straight to their ‘hermitage’ prior to their arrest.
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