WASHINGTON SEIZED

More than 120 people have been taken hostage in Washington D.C. by an orthodox Muslim group protesting about the depiction of Mohammad in US media. Three buildings are occupied by the kidnappers.

UPDATE. One hostage has reportedly been shot dead.

UPDATE II. Several others are reported wounded—one paralyzed by shotgun blast.

UPDATE III. A D.C. councillor among the hostages may also have been shot.

(Actually, all of the above took place in 1977, when twelve Hanafi Muslims stormed Washington’s District Building, the offices of B’nai B’rith, and the Islamic Center. Dozens were injured, then-councillor Marion Barry was shot, legal intern Bob Pierce was crippled, and radio reporter Maurice Williams was murdered. Among the terrorists’ demands: that the film Mohammad, Messenger of God not be shown in US cinemas. It’s curious, given recent Mohammad-related cartoon issues, that this event hasn’t been recalled more widely.)

Posted by Tim B. on 02/27/2006 at 09:55 AM
    1. Coo! I didn’t immediately note the statement that this all occurred in 1977. I was wondering why I hadn’t heard anything about it on the train into Washington this morning; figured that maybe, since this sort of thing seems to be happening more frequently, it was no longer newsworthy.

      Posted by paco on 2006 02 27 at 10:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’d forgotten about that incident.  In hindsight, it was an example of things to come.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 02 27 at 10:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. Tim, these reminders of our history—this one and the one about the anti-Hitler cartoons—are invaluable. I’ve often railed about the unwillingness of the modern press to remind us of our history; endless kudos to you for doing it.

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 02 27 at 10:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. Don’t know if it was coincidence or not but Moustapha Akkad, the director of MMoG, was killed in the Jordan terrorist hotel bombings.

      Posted by MelCamino on 2006 02 27 at 10:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. Another forgotten incident that has a lot to do with recent events.

      Posted by danS on 2006 02 27 at 10:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. Back then, we thought they were just isolated nutbags.  Who knew nutbaggery would develop into a worldwide movement?

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 02 27 at 10:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. Our forefathers had the same problem

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 11:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. Moustapha Akkad, who produced the Mohammed film (later renamed The Messenger) was a Syrian who made a fortune in Hollywood producing the Halloween slasher films. Mark Steyn’s obituary of Moustapha Akkad tells the whole story in his inimitable way: Steyn Obituary

      Posted by Urbs in Horto on 2006 02 27 at 11:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. As a clarification, the hostage takers in ‘77 were members of the Black Muslim movement, IIRC, not Arab Muslims.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 02 27 at 12:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hell, I remember it.  I visited the Islamic Center that very morning, with a group of high school students.  I recall having to take off my shoes and the co-eds having to wear head scarves.  I absolutely felt a menacing presence there, but I must say the the Islamic speakers were very cordial and seem appreciative of the opportunity to speak to us of Islam and their beliefs.

      Later that day when our group returned to the hotel, pandemonium broke out with parents calling the sponsors of our group, inquiring as to whether we were safe.  Ironically, the next day we were scheduled to visit the CIA Headquarters.  Every person’s airline ticket and drivers’ license was confiscated and returned only after a thorough vetting for security purposes.

      That was my first visit to Washington DC.  I’ll never forget it.

      Posted by wronwright on 2006 02 27 at 12:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. What is also interesting is that Mohammed never actually is seen in the movie.  Not even his shadow (Moustapha Akkad originally was going to show Mohammed’s shadow and was warned agianst that).  He also decided not to show anyone too closely related to Mohammed OR their voices.

      So the movie apparently shows the characters nodding to Mohammed and talking to him, but you never hear what he is saying.

      Posted by Room 237 on 2006 02 27 at 12:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. What is also interesting is that Mohammed never actually is seen in the movie.

      That’s just like Captain Scarlet…….you never get to see the Mysterons…….but they are determined to destroy the Earthmen…..

      Captain Scarlet

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 01:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. ..you never get to see the Mysterons..

      Except for when they are scoping out the scene – a pair of doughnut-shaped lights pans slowly across the frame…

      Posted by Bashir Gemayel on 2006 02 27 at 01:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. I new Akkad from my time in Syria, and noted his death–and his role in the Hanafi Muslim attack–on Crossroads Arabia http://xrdarabia.org/blog/archives/2005/11/12/amman-bombings/.

      It should be pointed out, though, that the Hanafis were a Black-Muslim group, wildly heterodox in their beliefs and had been push aside by more mainstream Black-Muslim groups in the US. They had a lot of issues with the DC government at the time. I, too, was in DC at the time of their attack.

      Posted by JBurgess on 2006 02 27 at 01:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. It should be pointed out, though, that the Hanafis were a Black-Muslim group, wildly heterodox in their beliefs and had been push aside by more mainstream Black-Muslim groups in the US. They had a lot of issues with the DC government at the time.

      Just how is this different than other Muslim groups?

      Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 02 27 at 02:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. Cartoons[url=http://www.sacredcowburgers.com/fresh/showpics.cgi?islamist_hypocrisy]Cartoon

      Cartoon for First Home

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 02:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. Cartoon approved for First Home, Oldham

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 02:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. Cartoon – 4th Attempt

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 02:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. Paris 2007 Election Time

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 02:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. Comparative Religion

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 02:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. A question which should be asked of every accomodationists at every opportunity.

      How far are you, personally, willing to modify your behaviour to accomodate Islamist sensibilities?  Think before you answer.  A great deal of what you, personally, do, say, read, eat, drink, wear and think sorely offends Muslims.

      Sorry?  I couldn’t hear you through the burkha.

      Posted by Max on 2006 02 27 at 04:28 PM • permalink

 

    1. How far are you, personally, willing to modify your behaviour to accomodate Islamist sensibilities?

      I am not currently wearing a flak jacket, nor a DPM suit, nor wearing a Templar’s Cross, nor am I exercising demons as I pass the mosque – I am being very restrained………..but whether that will continue in the light of provocations against my civil rights in my own country I cannot say

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 27 at 04:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. Exercising demons?

      Why, are they fat demons?

      Posted by rinardman on 2006 02 27 at 06:29 PM • permalink

 

    1. What’s the Western world coming to these days – there’s never a Templar Knight around when you need one…..

      Posted by EliotNess on 2006 02 27 at 06:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. May Allah bomb you! May Usama bin Laden bomb you! We love Usama! Usama, we love you!

      Usama and Zawahiri are heroes! They are men! Usama and Zawahiri are men!

      They will bomb you! And Allah will be with them! We will take revenge on you!

      May they bomb Denmark, so we can invade their country! And take their wives as war booty!

      ……….

      Part of a vile, misogynist, fascist rant by an anti-Danish protester in London on February 3rd.

      The full, horrifying 11 minutes of video footage of this demonstration is available at the NEFA site:
      http://www.nefafoundation.org/

      Cheers

      PM

      Posted by Piss Mohammed on 2006 02 27 at 07:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. May they bomb Denmark, so we can invade their country! And take their wives as war booty!

      Danish women would eat these guys alive.  They’re descended from Vikings, after all.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 02 27 at 07:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. Erm… and when I say “eat”… you know I don’t mean it in a fun-loving way.

      *blush*

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 02 27 at 07:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. Erm… and when I say “eat”… you know I don’t mean it in a fun-loving way.

      Sure Rebecca….:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2006 02 27 at 08:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. Yesterday’s letter, and today’s reply

      Subject: About your aboriginal web site
      Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 22:27:43 +0100

      Dear Sir,
      I am searching about aboriginal culture. When I entered into your site, […], I found an advertisement for Denmark in favour of freedom of speech. I regret that you participate in manipulation which has nothing to do with freedom of speech but with war beween faiths. So would you like that someone depict you with awful traits and publish it : is it a freedom of speech or incitation to hate ?. I woul like to simply say that perhaps you are wrong in participating in this campaign, and I would prefere that you make campaigns of mutual respect between every people in the world, it is better to lessen incomprehension between people.

      Thank you to have read this
      With best wishes
      Dr. Mondher Sfar
      1 rue Cassini
      75014 Paris
      France

      Dear Dr Sfar,

      Please, do not ever attempt to negate or censor the inalienable right that God’s has given to ALL people in this world, namely the Right to The Freedom of Thought, and to The Freedom of Expression.

      Your controlling attitude is simply not on – for it is contemptious of God Himself.

      But this observation should not be a surprise to you, dear Colleague, for I suspect that in the depth of your heart you already know too.

      Also, allow me to observe that the anguished, irritated manner in which you have composed your email DOES NOT promote the ideal of equality, friendship, and harmonious coexistence between different people at all. Well, I am saddened and disappointed with you, my distant Friend.

      So, it would be good if one day you were able to become aware of your growing intolerance of other cultures, and of your present lack of understanding and of wholehearted respect for other people’s rights, values, and beliefs.

      Moreover, I would suggest that you might wish to reflect regularly and more clearly about what is REALLY happening nowdays with you and your co-religionists, and do try to come up with daily responses which are thoughtful and responsible, dignified and mature.

      Remember, you always must think before you act; and you must not fail to purify and calm your mind, before you think.

      Do not avoid these tasks. The shape of your very future closely depends on how courageously, and how honestly you and your beloved ones will handle this fundamental responsibility of yours.

      With best wishes,
      T. Matthew Ciolek

      Posted by tmciolek on 2006 02 27 at 09:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. Excellent reply, tmc.  It will fall on deaf…er… blind eyes, but it was exactly right, nonetheless.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 02 27 at 11:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. A movie about the life of Muhammad is a MUST!! Not a silly Hollywood PC one that ignores the ‘real’ aspects of Muhammad’s life and teachings, but Muhammad as he really was; ie show him bonking 9 year old Aisha, watching 700 men get beheaded in lines of 5, raping women, looting and bumping off his critics. A real historical movie about Muhammad would utterly shock the world! The obstacles in the way to getting the truth out about who Muhammad really was, would be removed.

      One small problem; how to stay alive long enough to get the movie out and then protect those who watch it?

      Answer; today we have the technology to create movies using digital animation that looks like real life. No need for actors or film sets that can endanger lives. This can all be done in secret. Then people can download the movie to their computer and watch.

      One of the problems with the muslim world is that since images of faces and human forms were banned, muslims have more difficulty imagining scenarios such as the beheading of a Jewish tribe’s 700 men and boys. But the movie will visusalise it for them. Most humans are repulsed by such things.

      Islam would fall like a pack of cards … slowly, but it will fall – there is no place for such a ‘Prophet’ in today’s world.

      Posted by Narnian1 on 2006 02 28 at 12:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. 31: It’d be a better idea to make it a conventional cartoon for several reasons. Firstly you need to be able to reach a wide audience. I remember reading that Tarantino animated a segment of “Kill Bill” because he couldn’t get it past the censors if such extreme violence were to be portrayed by real actors. I’ve seen a lot of gory movies but watching an Einsatzgruppen style mass beheading would probably make me feel a little squeamish.

      The other two reasons are cost and security. If you had this made as a regular cartoon in Japan or Korea, it wouldn’t cost more than a few million and the people involved wouldn’t fear a member of their non-existent Muslim population coming to kill them.

      Posted by AussieJim on 2006 02 28 at 01:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. #32 Good ideas – I hope someone takes it up, FAST!

      There are plenty of ways film makers use to ‘tone down’ violence and paedophilia etc, yet still give enough impact to show the evil of it.

      Posted by Narnian1 on 2006 02 28 at 02:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. #.23 my typing is awful “exorcising” is the correct verb……..but keep on exercising !

      Posted by Voyager on 2006 02 28 at 02:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. This is a bit from left field but I read today that Kayser Trad is not employed, could someone tell me what does he live on, or direct me to that information?

      Posted by Possum on 2006 02 28 at 03:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. #29
      the moment you invoke any god you lose any freedom you think you have, to invoke a god is to accept the existence of superior being to whom you are evidently a subject of.
      The sequence is: BIG BANG, EVOLUTION and that’s all folks!!

      Posted by Possum on 2006 02 28 at 03:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. #36
      Perhaps this is so among the marsupials. But this does not apply to me and my gods. Cheers.

      Posted by tmciolek on 2006 02 28 at 06:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dr Who has been doing battle with Mohammed and his moronic followers for a long time.  You cannot see the prophet but you can hear his word echoing from within the dreaded DALEKS.  There is certainly a definite similarity between the Muslim and Dalek ideals.  The only difference is that I would rather have a Dalek as a friend than a Muslim.  EXTERMINATE EXTERMINATE.

      Posted by Howzat on 2006 03 01 at 01:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. #37
      Oh my god the ostrich speaks!!

      Posted by Possum on 2006 03 01 at 05:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. #39
      A valiant attempt to save a cuddly visage. I salute Thee, My Possum.

      Posted by tmciolek on 2006 03 01 at 07:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. #40
      I used ostrich as they remind me of people that find themselves in that position 5 times a day.

      Posted by Possum on 2006 03 02 at 05:12 AM • permalink

 

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