TOO MUCH WORK

Webdiary unveils its new zero tolerance comments policy:

Any comment that contains anywhere within it any commentary – explicit or implied – on the intelligence or honesty of another Webdiarist, will simply not be published. Following specific complaints, comments that refer to other Webdiarists by nickname or any other name than that which they use themselves will also not be published. Notwithstanding our preference against removing published material, we will also remove anything that slips through that is reasonably complained about by the target of a comment …

Some of you write stream-of-consciousness stuff that needs a spell-check and extensive repunctuation to make it comprehensible to others: from here on, if it’s too much work, we simply don’t publish it.

Stream-of-consciousness stuff that needs a spell-check and extensive repunctuation? Sounds like Webdiary’s entire archives. Also feeling the pressure, our society-reshaping pals at Daily Kos:

Just a quick reminder as the media nip at our heels —

We didn’t get here because of them.

They can praise us, they can trash us, they can ignore us, and ultimately none of that will matter as long as we keep doing what we’ve been doing.

Whether we succeed or not will depend on our own efforts. Not those of anyone else.

That’s the spirit. Down with infidels!
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UPDATE. James Waterton: “Notice the new addition to the sidebar? ‘Webdiary Currently Has Funds In Hand To Keep Going To: 26th July’. Interesting to see how that works out.”

Posted by Tim B. on 06/25/2006 at 03:10 AM
    1. WOMFT!.

      Posted by Daniel San on 2006 06 25 at 03:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. I do find it amusing that the most popular Democrat blog on the web has a dreanged hatred of his own party. It’s fantastic.

      Posted by Ross on 2006 06 25 at 03:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. Muslims Inc.
      They Scare Because They CAIR.
      All blogs beware!

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 06 25 at 03:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. on the intelligence or honesty of another Webdiarist

      Is low intelligence a stigma now?  The opinions of the stupid no longer count for anything on the left?

      The correct policy is looking for truth, not intelligence.  A common confusion.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2006 06 25 at 04:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hrm. It seems as though the Wbediary management is growing increasingly contemptuous of its readership, whom it once patronisingly coddled.

      Posted by James Waterton on 2006 06 25 at 04:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. Webdiary. And did anyone notice the new addition to the sidebar? “Webdiary Currently Has Funds In Hand To Keep Going To : 26th July”.

      Interesting to see how that works out.

      Posted by James Waterton on 2006 06 25 at 04:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Stream-of-consciousness stuff …
      There’s no link that I could find easily to Michelle Grattan in the Sun-Herald today.
      “We’re caught and held fast in Uncle Sam’s blackberry bush” goes the headline.
      Michelle seems to be wishing for a soldier to be shot instead of an Iraqi security guard, as that would drop Howard into a much more difficult situation. She is holding the army hostage – in order to get at Howard?
      Here, as in America, the press appear to be part of the problem. Over there the NYT is leaking every government program to catch terrorists they can get their paws on. Our media continues to be determined to make life difficult for Howard. That’s all that matters to them. Whatever it takes.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 06 25 at 04:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh great. I’m looking at yet another picture of the wild-eyed Kozmonaut and a question came to mind: Do you think Koz has groupies? This question rancid turned into a series of ghastly images of the people those groupies would likely include.  The photos from the Look at Me, I’m Naked Bicycle Tour and Vienna Weenie Fest came to mind.  Margo and Cindy….. bleeh…
      Does anyone know a good method for removing vomit from a keyboard?

      Posted by Texas Bob on 2006 06 25 at 05:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. I read Daily Kos for the first time today. I really just don’t get it. I don’t understand the posts, and I can’t make head nor tail of the comments. It’s like a skateboarders club where everyone talks an abbreviated language to keep out the kids who aren’t cool. Which is fine, for skateboarders. But for a political movement it strikes me as kind of dumb.

      And as someone who lives in Asia and does business worldwide (including the US), I have to say I’ve never seen a more insular group of people. Are these the Americans I alway hear about who’ve never owned a passport?

      Still, good luck to them. Maybe they really are the face of a new America. All the more reason to stay in Hong Kong, I guess. The Chinese must be laughing; if they bide their time they’ll be able to buy the US at a cut price…

      Posted by Hanyu on 2006 06 25 at 05:11 AM • permalink

 

    1. I might post at webdiary with my new nickname. Mr incrediblylarge [The phrase that was all words run together that was breaking the page layout has been removed. Someone didn’t read the FAQ. The Management.] the 3rd.

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 06 25 at 05:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. “Webdiary currently has funds in hand to keep going to: 26 July”

      Relax, only a month to go!

      Posted by Rafe on 2006 06 25 at 06:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. #10, if they don’t like the length, you could always serialize it for them and then charge syndication fees, that’ll help them with their budget problems! 😀

      Posted by darrinh on 2006 06 25 at 06:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. WebDairy has enough funds until:
      a. the inmates stop trying to takeover the asylum
      b. the car runs out of gas at about Broken Hill
      c. debt collectors appear to take away the computer thingy
      d. the cheques bounce again
      e. bored luvvies get sick to death of subsidising this experiment in social retardism

      Feel free to add you own. Better yet, it’s almost time again for….haiku celebrating the Dairy’s demise.

      Posted by CB on 2006 06 25 at 07:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. Cash strapped, Webdiary folds
      Ever doomed to fail, the herd
      Must now get a job.

      Posted by CB on 2006 06 25 at 07:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. (Diary is one sillybull. No. Really)

      Posted by CB on 2006 06 25 at 07:14 AM • permalink

 

    1. Webdiary, where Greater Freedom thru Tighter Content Controls is more than just a slogan, it’s a policy.  Power to the people.

      9 Hanyu

      I’ve never seen a more insular group of people.

      They’re

      Brittle
      Insular
      Tetchy
      Censorious
      Horse’s ass
      es, then.

      4 R.H. Negative

      Is low intelligence a stigma now?  The opinions of the stupid no longer count for anything on the left?

      Yeah!  What’s up with that!?  I personally represemble them insinuations!
      The left’s exclusionalismatic attitudes are an affront to my eliminationist outlook, and I say FIE, yes FIE upon them!
      I’ll say it again, if you like.

      Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 06 25 at 08:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. #8 Texas Bob, it’s cheaper just to buy a new one. Otherwise, you need to wipe off as much as you can, and after it’s dry you pull all the keys out and vacuum up the rest from underneath.

      (No, I’ve never vomited on the kb, but I have spilt far too many drinks!)

      Oh, and I also visited the KosKids once, and I reckon I get more sense from my cats.

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 06 25 at 08:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. So the Editing Team are having difficulty making head and tails of their contributors. Hehehe.

      My biggest gripe about them moderating the comments is unchanged, though: surely doing a grammar and spellcheck and rewriting ‘stream of consciousness’ is changing what was originally written.

      They have always treated their readers and posters with contempt. Obviously, it’s the same old story – if you expect to be treated like crap, you get treated like crap. And if you accept it, you get even more of the same.

      If comments were moderated for profanity, that’s one thing, but this is micromanagement.

      No wonder they’ve never got enough bloody money. They are still spending it on Caps and Italics.

      Oh, and Huck, say it again!

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 06 25 at 08:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. we will also remove anything that slips through that is reasonably complained about by the target of a comment …

      Hey, if I go over there and say something like:  George Bush for President in 2008! and they all complain about it, and I complain about their complaints, will they remove all the posts?

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 06 25 at 08:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. #8, Do you think Koz has groupies?

      Easy, big fella!  Calm down and back slowly away from the images.  And don’t do that again.  Some of us haven’t had breakfast yet.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 06 25 at 08:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. we will also remove anything that slips through that is reasonably complained about by the target of a comment …

      It strikes me that over here on the evil, selfish, racist, intolerant right you have to work to get banned by the Hammer of Andrea, more from thread hijack than from non-conformity of thought.  Over there on the tolerant diverse left, it sounds like one complaint that you don’t agree and its off to the Gulag.

      Lets see what that would sound like over here (caution, may contain eliminationist images):

      Gustov:  “The solution to (any) problem is the redistribution of wealth!”

      Vanguard:  “Waaaaah.  Andrea, Gustov said a stupid thing!”

      Andrea:  “Comrade de Left, your thought is not in conformance with Groupthink here at Blair World.  You are an enemy of the people.  Guards!”

      Gustov: “But, but, arrrgh!!!!”

      Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 06 25 at 10:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. Well, my guards have been on vacation. It’s not easy being a minion of a Fascist Crusher of Dissent, and they were going to lose the hours they’d clocked up. But when they get back, they’ll be tanned, rested, and ready…

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 06 25 at 10:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. Did we ever reach consensus about the RWDB rank structure?

      i.e. Is peon higher than lackey, does minion rule over serf, where does running dog fit in? Lickspittle?

      Enquiring minds . . . . .

      Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 06 25 at 11:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. Let me get this straight:

      Lefty trolls pop in here and talk about how we’re a bunch of dittoheads who don’t brook dissent from the party line. Oh, and we’re a bunch of retards, too.

      Meanwhile, over at people-powered Webdiary, they have to edit user comments to make them comprehensible, and they yank comments that don’t fit a prescribed set of guidelines.

      Do I have it about right?

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 25 at 11:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. Holy! Hubris! Batman! but those KosKids are a contumelious crowd:

      That’s one of the things that pisses off the Kool Kids of the MSM.

      We each have our own followings due to the quality of our writing and work. They have their followings due in large part to the cachet of their organizations’ storied histories. That cachet is being eroded by us as people can see and judge for themselves the quality of anonymous bloggers versus big New York Times columnists and realize that we’ve predicted Iraq, the state of the military, deficits and the economy, the erosion of civil liberties and the rise of the imperial presidency more accurately and more insightfully than Brooks, Friedman, Tierney combined.

      —Posted by Kos diarist extraordinare Carnacki

      I know where my first stop is going to be after the polls close on Nov 7…

      I vote we laugh at them

      Then, we kick their asses in in November.

      In January, we start hearings.

      Bring it on, Kiddies.

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 06 25 at 11:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. Any comment that contains anywhere within it any commentary – explicit or implied – on the intelligence or honesty of another Webdiarist, will simply not be published.

      Then, can’t Webdiary save money by eliminating its comments section, since the above-referenced rule will reduce usage to essentially zero?

      Posted by paco on 2006 06 25 at 11:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. Whether we succeed or not will depend on our own efforts. Not those of anyone else.

      The Kos gang has exerted extreme efforts in support of twenty (20) candidates for political office, all of whom have lost. It is gratifying to note that this gang has failed to take any responsibility for the failures, blaming everyone else, even John Kerry and especially the Democratic party, for not taking its advice. The laws of chance say that the Kossaks will eventually have a success, for which they will bray victory to the moon and further feed “their ravenous appetite for self-congratulation”.

      Posted by stats on 2006 06 25 at 11:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. 26 July – what a nice birthday present for the PM!

      Posted by Razor on 2006 06 25 at 12:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. I still wanna know where this damn “imperial presidency” is.  Does GWB wear the Imperial Margarine crown in the Oval Office when no one’s looking?  Does he ponce about in a purple velvet cape with ermine trim while in the kitchen getting Laura’s coffee?

      Did he nominate his horse for a Senate seat yet?

      Posted by ushie on 2006 06 25 at 12:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. I still wanna know where this damn “imperial presidency” is.

      “Imperial” is one of those lazy-left intensifiers. They have no idea what it really means and it does not fit the context, but it sends the emotional signal they want. Or, as Montoya in The Princess Bride says, “You keep using that word, but I do not think it means what you think it means.”

      See also “hegemon”, “fascist.”

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 25 at 01:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. Did he nominate his horse for a Senate seat yet?

      I think the Massachusetts Democratic Party has that one locked up.

      Posted by PW on 2006 06 25 at 01:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. #29: Did he nominate his horse for a Senate seat yet?

      Well, not the whole horse, no.

      Posted by paco on 2006 06 25 at 02:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. Okay, it’s time for each and every consumer of the goodly Blair’s chuckle-inducing content to take a look at Webdiary and its forlorn state. In response, enlightened denizens will surely be reaching for their wallets. After all, it would be a comedic catastrophe to allow Webdiary – such a rich source of mirth – to expire due to lack of funds.

      Posted by James Waterton on 2006 06 25 at 02:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. Dave S. — Got a moron across the street wearing a t-shirt every Friday (and presumably in between, by the looks of him) that reads IMPEACH DICTATOR BUSH.

      Because, you know, you can impeach a dictator.

      And he’ll listen when you do.

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 06 25 at 02:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. I forgot about “dictatorship.” Thatnks, Rich.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 25 at 04:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. Oh, and “neocon.”

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 25 at 04:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. Did he nominate his horse for a Senate seat yet?

      President Bush, best known for his imperialist presidency, is also a well-known windshield cowboy, so I guess “Did he nominate his pick-up truck for a Senate seat yet?” would be more literal. ‘Cause he rides the range in a Ford V-8 Yippee i oh ti-ay!

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 06 25 at 04:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. #21 – Gusty better go redistribute some of his wealth to plebdiary before they run out.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2006 06 25 at 05:32 PM • permalink

 

    1. The left in general have a lot of funny idea’s about a large number of things.  Most of their funny idea’s can be found here: http://www.revolutionaryleft.com/

      I found this particular thread most endearing.
      *warning* – prolonged reading may be detrimental to your health.

      Posted by darrinh on 2006 06 25 at 06:58 PM • permalink

 

    1. #39—I love the fact that the “revolutionary left” site is using a capitalist .com domain.

      Posted by Evil Pundit on 2006 06 25 at 07:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. #33, James Waterton,

      I appreciate the thought. Unfortunately, there is enough stupidity in the world as it is without my actively supporting it.

      “Webdiary” will most certainly be rapidly replaced – if it goes under at all.  I know only what I’ve read here, but it seems that it has been hanging on by its chewed nails for some time.  I’m beginning to wonder if it can be killed.
      How do you kill pod people?  Is it like vampires with the silver stake?

      Posted by saltydog on 2006 06 25 at 08:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. #40, yeah, unfortunately for them, .ru went down the gurgler a few years ago 🙂

      Posted by darrinh on 2006 06 25 at 08:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. #39: Thanks for the link, darrinh. I particularly relished the thumbnail picture used by the appropriately-named “Zero”: a cartoon of Karl Marx wearing a lampshade. Ol’ Zero fancies himself an anarcho-syndicalist. I wonder if he knows the historical context in which the only even partially-successful anarcho-syndicalist groups operated: the Spanish Civil War. Not only were those groups among the most savage wholesalers of atrocities, they managed to get slaughtered by their erstwhile Communist allies. Good company for Zero. The other armchair kommissars made for amusing reading, too.

      Posted by paco on 2006 06 25 at 08:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. Is a small person hidden behind the Behead! sign, with a severed head sitting on top of him/her?
      The woman’s head looks very startled and fixated.  Is it plastic or real?

      Posted by Barrie on 2006 06 25 at 08:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. Endearing is the word for it, darrin.

      I will not soon forget this question: ‘If you could read a good book or spend a day crapping on Hitler’s grave which would you do?’

      Posted by Harry Eagar on 2006 06 25 at 08:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. ‘If you could read a good book or spend a day crapping on Hitler’s grave which would you do?’

      Both. Trick question. What man doesn’t read on the shitter?

      Tho’ I prefer the sports page to Jane Austen in that milieu.

      Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 26 at 12:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. Thanks for the link, darrin; entertaining as well as informative. I especially enjoyed the tutorial High School Commie’s Guide, to dumb cappie “arguments”. A link there lead me to another site—if you’re really interested in a brave new world, sink your teeth into Technocracy. It’s the social and goods production and distribution system that, by necessity, will take over in North America when our current systems fail, as they inevitably will.

      6.6 Would Technocracy put an end to private ownership?
      Yes, except for personal belongings. But why let that worry you? More people are finding that owning a car or house is more of a detriment than a benefit, considering taxes and maintenance. They look with some envy at apartment dwellers who live as comfortably as they without the usual concerns of house owners; and when it is possible to do so, many of the house owners join the ranks of the apartment dwellers.
      Private ownership is a Price System hang-up that will be gladly abandoned by most people when they experience the considerable advantages of being able to use goods and services whenever desired without the bother of owning them.

      6.11 Would there be a police department in a Technocracy? 
      Because the cause of most crime would be automatically eliminated by the design of the Technate, it is reasonable to expect that the proportion of crime stemming from economic causes (at least 90 percent) would disappear along with the elimination of the cause. The great reduction in crime would be matched by a corresponding reduction in the number of police; however, since some crime not related to economic causes would still exist, police could not be completely dispensed with.
      Instead of the rash of local police departments now found across the Continent, there would be just one law enforcement agency, namely, the Continental Constabulary, but it would be a specially trained group of individuals operating under the discipline of the Social Relations Sequence.

      6.16 How will Technocracy change human nature so as to make the system work? 
      It won’t even try, for it is neither possible, necessary, nor desirable that human nature be changed.
      What is in the minds of most people when they speak of “human nature” is human behavior. Human behavior, like all other animal behavior, is the result of the reaction of environment upon the inherited mechanism of the individual. Technocracy proposes to regulate this environment in such a manner that the resulting human behavior will be the most desirable; or, to put it another way, Technocracy proposes to change the rules of the game under which human nature operates. Given a decent set of rules, there is every reason to believe that human nature will effect a veritable Renaissance.

      6.36 Would any provisions be made to help people make satisfactory use of their free time? 
      Yes, such provisions would be made. The Education Sequence would, in addition to educating children and training them for their later roles in the various Functional Sequences, assist in numerous ways. It would, in a similar way but with much broader scope, carry on adult education classes as is done today by many schools and universities. These, as is known, teach many hobbies, handicrafts and other interests. There would, of course, always be individual help when required. The Recreation Sequence would concentrate on indoor and outdoor activities, giving instruction in the popular team games, and also in skiing, skating, hiking and camping, tennis, golf and so on.
      In all training for leisure-time activity, the emphasis would undoubtedly be made on personal participation since such involvement is usually both more satisfying and more healthful than spectator interest.

      6.44 What about the individual who refuses to work? 
      People do not ordinarily refuse performing work they like doing or performing work they have received specialized training in unless, as so often happens in the Price System, artificial obstructions have been introduced. As these would be totally absent in a Technate, any refusal to perform functional service would initially be treated as a medical problem. If a medical examination uncovered either a physical or mental reason for non-participation, the subject would be excused from function for as long as necessary without any loss of consuming power. On the other hand, if no medical reason for non-participation were discovered, the individual would no doubt become the object of rather severe social disapprobation from his fellow citizens until such time as he decided to cease being a public parasite. Actually, it is not expected that enough such instances will occur to be of any social significance.

      Don’t know about you, but I can’t wait.

      Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 06 26 at 01:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. Sounds like a lovely plan. For cattle, maybe.

      Posted by mojo on 2006 06 26 at 02:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. #47, Kyda

      Please give prior notice that waders are necessary before sending innocent people into something like that big steaming pile of . . . somebody’s imagination.

      Plato has a lot to answer for.

      Posted by saltydog on 2006 06 26 at 04:28 AM • permalink

 

    1. Good Lord!  Robot society, here we come, and I don’t mean the machines either!

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 06 26 at 09:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. I loved how some moron at that site mocked the idea that North Korea is thought to be a communist country.

      Why, of course it isn’t!  It’s a…uh…um…

      Kyda, I can’t wait to be a Technate.  Or Techpod.  Or whatever…

      Posted by ushie on 2006 06 26 at 11:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. I, for one, welcome our new Technate overlords.

      (Somebody had to say it.)

      Posted by PW on 2006 06 26 at 02:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. 18
      Fie!  Fie on Technate and Tech-pod alike!

      Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 06 26 at 08:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. On the other hand, if no medical reason for non-participation were discovered, the individual would no doubt become the object of rather severe social disapprobation from his fellow citizens until such time as he decided to cease being a public parasite………Funny, when I say something like that at a lefty site in reference to welfare receipt, I’m a fascist neocon heartless swine; maybe if I swipe one of Phillip Adams beanies and alter my delivery I can get a seat on the economics faculty at ANU, tenure at the commission for the future and a gig on the ABC insulting ignorant lumpen proles who don’t appreciate the nuances of Cartesian Dualism, an installation at the national gallery of some wops poo in tins or the fact that their embarrassing affection for multinational owned companies who make wasteful personal conveyances is directly involved in the extinction of assorted varmints and the inundation of coastal communities everywhere (especially Byron where all the real people live- who cares about all those seachange pseuds polluting the littoral zone with their ugly rubber footwear and clothes that look like the result of your last batch of bad psilocybin mushrooms).

      And maybe one of those pubey looking scraps of bumfluff on my chin to finish the job.

      Posted by Habib on 2006 06 27 at 01:18 AM • permalink

 

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