PREJUDICE EXPRESSED

The ABC’s Media Watch last night tackled major Australian media outlets – the Daily Telegraph, the Sydney Morning Herald, Brisbane’s Courier-Mail, Melbourne’s Herald Sun,  the Murdoch-owned PerthNow, and this site – over the issue of online comments:

For those eager to express their prejudices, there are plenty of new forums in the new media.

The major metropolitan papers have embraced the electronic era and they actively encourage their readers to respond to stories online.

Click for the rest. Media Watch also encourages responses; editors from all of the above-named publications were contacted prior to last night’s broadcast and allowed the opportunity to explain their comments policies.

Well, almost all. They didn’t contact me. And it’s not as though Media Watch doesn’t have my contact details, for in 2002 I corresponded with Media Watch executive producer Tim Palmer – then the ABC’s Middle East correspondent – over a matter that might relate to the program’s current issues with freedom of speech.

Palmer first contacted me in June, 2002, about this post, in which I sought the origin of a unsourced Shimon Peres quote that appeared in a Palmer article. He vowed to sue me unless I published an apology and withdrawal. I was a freelancer at the time, without the finances to challenge any serious legal action, so – following lengthy email exchanges – I eventually caved:

I wish to apologise to Tim Palmer for any inference that the quotes attributed to Shimon Peres in the above article were concocted or invented, and to acknowledge that his report as originally submitted to the ABC was accurate and reliable.

I gave in after Palmer told me he was contacting his lawyer that very day to file lawsuits against other journalists who’d criticised him, and that it would be a simple matter to add my name to his list. Apology published, Palmer’s next email congratulated me for being “honourable”.

I didn’t reply.

Two years later, after the Sydney Morning Herald’s Miranda Devine had written something nice about me, she received an email from Palmer gloating about the time he’d forced me to publish a “craven” apology. I sent him a note:

Dear Tim,

At the time of our dispute over your Middle East reporting, you emailed me to say my apology was “right” or “honourable” or some-such form of words.

Now I discover via my friend Miranda Devine that you believe my apology was “craven”.

I’m confused. Was my apology/correction good or bad?

Yours,

Tim Blair

PS: How did all your other lawsuit threats work out?

Palmer’s reply:

which lawsuits would those be tim? accuracy simply ain’t your strong point is it?

Oh, no; he’d forgotten his earlier claims. Palmer had evidently lied to me in order to force an apology, then – two years on, and without recalling the details of our exchange – was contacting journalists to smear me. A final email extract from ethical Tim Palmer, Media Watch executive producer:

I have the right to tell as many people as I like about your shoddy work and about the fact that you, after much posturing, fell in a heap and apologised. I’ve told plenty.

Tell them about your lie, mate.

UPDATE. At Media Watch’s heavily-moderated site, you’ll find this:

The only understanding I can make is that MediaWatch carries the torch for Globalism and maybe even Zionist groups as they are known to push Hate Speech laws so they can’t be questioned themselves in crime. ABC is starting to show a disproportionate number of Jews in the places of power in the ABC.

And this:

AC and TT are both reactionary propaganda mouthpieces of the government and big business. The vilification of Muslims, single mothers and the unemployed is rampant on both of these reproachable programs.

Their function is to confuse workers by blaming minority groups that are easy targets and cannot defend themselves, for the declining standard of living and attacks on workers rights, diverting the focus away from the real cause, which is government policy.

The Muslims especially are used as scapegoats domestically, and internationally to defend the crime of the war in Iraq. They serve the same purpose as the Jews of Hitler’s Third Reich.

Jewish folk might not appreciate the comparison.

(Via sparrow in evil comments)

Posted by Tim B. on 06/18/2007 at 01:43 PM
    1. Have your lawyer contact the (less than) honourable Mr Palmer and demand he retract his slander and publicly grovelapologize. Turnabout is fair play.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 18 at 02:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. Shoots cuffs, pulls microscopic bit of lint off of lapel, sets fedora at “pugnacious”.

      Mr. Palmer can , with my compliments, stick his head in a gas oven – assuming, of course, that there is one big enough to hold that boorish salt-lick.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 02:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. Lets be honest, if it wasn’t for extortion of the state Tim Palmer would be begging in gutters.

      Think of the ABC as a mental home for inadequate people who cannot cope with reality.

      Posted by Rob Read on 2007 06 18 at 02:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. Tim Palmer – agent of T.W.A.T.*

      *Those Who Are Tits

      Posted by Tex Lovera on 2007 06 18 at 02:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. #2 paco,

      Who gets to light the match????

      Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 06 18 at 02:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. #5: Looks like we need another pool!

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 02:30 PM • permalink

 

    1. Isn’t falsely threatening legal action barratry and itself illegal?

      Pity it’d be almost impossible to prove at this point.

      Posted by Sigivald on 2007 06 18 at 02:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. We of the unwashed, blogospheric commentariat recognize that self-righteous posturing, selective memory, and lying are some of the chief features of media leftists, Tim, as you know.  It’s what makes living in their world possible.  Mr. Palmer seems to be a living example, and we should pity him for his obvious limits.

      That said, that whole article looked like a blatant attempt to stir up some easily stirrable segments of society for a ratings boost.  Sort of the old “Let’s you and him fight” ploy.  Many can play that game.  For instance, El Cid, Kae, and Howzat, among others, you have been vilified as racist homophobes!  Congrats, you three, you’ve made the big time in Socioloonyland.

      Mr. Palmer should be aware that the ridicule from this crowd is merciless and devastating, and can be accomplished without any racist or homophobic epithets at all.  I hope he’s prepared.

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 18 at 02:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. It’s telling to note that Tim Blair formally published his apology (regardless of relationships), while Tim Palmer pretty much hides his obvious loathing behind innuendo and deceit.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 18 at 02:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. Oh, and I read the MediaWatch blurb.  They clearly expect every blogger or editor to control moderate comments to theirstandards.  Following in the socialist pattern of “Do as I say, not as I do”, of course.

      While MW is Aussie-centric, I guess they’ve never read Daily Kos or the Democratic Underground, both of which abound in far worse comments.

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 18 at 02:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. I just seems unfair to go after someone who is obviously unfit for a war of wits.  Had he been anything other than a craven coward in the first place, he never would have threatened a lawsuit.  Ah well, he’s the one who threw down the gauntlet.

      The arrogance of ignorance and incompetence is stunning, isn’t it?

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 06 18 at 02:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. A quick search on MediaWatch finds no denuciation of a SMH employee who once declared that the Zionists control the nation’s media:

      The fundamentalist Zionist lobby controls politics and the media in the US and Australia

      Link

      I guess when you are an employee of a major newspaper and writing such things about Jews as part of your job it isn’t the same things as a commenter on a blog mentioning Islam, right?

      Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 06 18 at 03:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. Dylan:  That’s what I’m puzzled about.  Denigrate Christians or Jews all you want, but point out the “excesses” of Islam, and you’re EEEEVIL and RRRRRAAACCCIISSTT.

      Please.

      Elizabeth
      Imperial Keeper

      Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 06 18 at 03:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. Some animals are more equal than others.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 18 at 03:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. SLAP FIGHT! SLAP FIGHT!…

      Posted by mojo on 2007 06 18 at 03:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. Well, I’m back … literally, figuratively and electronically.

      Back in beautiful Montreal (home of secret HQ of PACO Corp) after 3 months in Vietnam, Mongolia and the Untied Kingdom.

      I would politely propose that Mr Palmer go fuck himself.

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 06 18 at 04:06 PM • permalink

 

    1. #16: Welcome back, Jack! Where’s my gift-pack of fermented mare’s milk? What, no duty-free stores in Mongolia? Tell me another one!

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 04:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. One of the great things about coming from a family of lawyers is that bullies threatening lawsuits can be exposed for the cowards they are. A good response is ‘Serve me the writ, mate, I look forward to it. When you case fails because it has no basis in law, I will enjoy watching the bailiff repossess your car to pay my legal costs.’

      Posted by Behemoth on 2007 06 18 at 04:25 PM • permalink

 

    1. Another lesson, children, is at least in the United States e-mails are admissible in a court of law.  And can be viewed and used either for/against you.  NEVER, and I repeat, NEVER, put anything in an e-mail that your mother can’t read.

      Don’t know how it is down under, but did you save the exchange, Tim?

      Elizabeth
      Imperial Keeper

      Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 06 18 at 04:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. Mr Paco, Boss – setting up PACO Corp (Mongolia) NL is proving to be tougher than I expected.  I have taken the liberty of changing the name to CHINGGIS KHAN (paco mong) CORP and we seem to be doing a bit better.

      Our offices are in the CHINGGIS bldg on CHINGGIS avenue.  We will be entertaining all our potential clients next week with lots of CHINGGIS beer and CHINGGIS vodka.

      I told them that you might drop in and they’re all looking forward to that.  (BTW, I may have implied that you are a descendant of CHINGGIS).

      Trust me – you wouldn’t like the fermented mares milk (although there will be a bucketful in the Ger house where you will be staying)

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 06 18 at 04:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. I tried to watch Their ABC last night but gave up halfway through the 7:30 report to start the much more rewarding process of backing up my hard drive. Mrs Skeeter, more resilient than I, continued to watch and called me in just in time for Grimmy’s comment. LOL.
      Margos, surely you joshed on the previous thread when you suggested that anyone could get the hots for Monica?

      #16. Welcome back, Jack, from Vietnam, Mongolia and the Untied (formerly United) Kingdom.
      Which one of those places did you find the most threatening to your well-being?

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 06 18 at 04:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. #20: Great work, Jack! I even like the name: “Chinngis”. Sounds like the bell on a cash register.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 04:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. The taxpayer funded AB stinking C!

      Wallows in it’s own bile on a daily basis, from the heights of red Kez O’Brien’s studio and the AM, WT & PM shams, to the far flung regionals.

      They’re all tarred with the one brush, and no one will convince me otherwise.

      Posted by Gravelly on 2007 06 18 at 05:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. #21 oddly enough, I find the greatest threats to my wellbeing here in Canada where we have various levels of warlords who call themselves “governments”.  These so-called “governments” confiscate all of the minimal gains that I and my compatriots make during the course of a year.  This is a process that they call “taxes”.

      I am seriously considering residence in VN.

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 06 18 at 05:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. #22

      Thanks, Boss, sir – you know that Chinggis is the real name of one of our favourite RWDBs –  the one and only GHENGIS KHAN!!

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 06 18 at 05:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. I like how they call this site “electronic media”.  The last time I looked it is called timblair dot net, a BLOG site, having no electronic connection to any Daily Telegraph domain.

      In the circumstances, to lump it in with a story on MEDIA electronic comments and their responsibilities is poor form.  That show keeps trying to sink the boot in, but only succeeds in landing it in it’s own mouth!

      ps nice comments.  Did they address the discrimination against the blind in their blind rush to protect the racists?

      Posted by peter m on 2007 06 18 at 05:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. #25: Of course; that is my preferred anglicization of his name (money in the till!).

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 05:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. #21, skeeter:

      I got quoted on foreign devil TV? How cool is that?!

      What did they quot? I hope it was one of my more hateful eliminationistic ones and not one of my doofy, trying to be witty, ones.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 18 at 05:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. quot shoulda been quote, if I read that in context, I think.

      PIMF is for the vain.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 18 at 05:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. Do you get the feeling that the Mongolians spend a lot of time looking back on past glories?

      Posted by mojo on 2007 06 18 at 05:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. #27 God bless you, Boss – So you’ll be there wearing the Chinggis hat??

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 06 18 at 05:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Wonder if you’ll be hearing from his lawyer this time, Tim?

      I believe paco’s kept some pretty filthy 6×8’s of Palmer just in case. You know, from that night he invited Red Kezza up for a “coffee”?

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 18 at 05:38 PM • permalink

 

    1. #28 Click on the second link, Grimster. It’s a beauty, don’t worry.

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 18 at 05:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. I wonder how long it took MW to find some suitable dreadfully racist, nasty comments. (What made MW decide to use that particular thread’s?)

      Perhaps, Tim, Mr Palmer didn’t want to contact you ‘cos you would cut him to bits with your rapier wit?
      In a battle of wits Mr P would be unarmed, so needs to resort to a battle of writs?

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 05:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. #33, Dminor:

      Thanks. I usually pass on clicking the links referencing leftistnazifascistcommiebastard sites or remarks. I resent giving even a single traffic count bump to such.

      El Cid landed a few shots. Well done sir. Howzat got in one too.

      Now, all I want in life (other than for open war against our domestic enemy) is to be named in a personal fatwa and/or have a jihad launched in my honor 🙂

      And, just to help push that along…

      Death to all islamic jihadi! All islamic jihadi supporters! All islamic jihadi apologists! All islamic quislings!

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 18 at 05:56 PM • permalink

 

    1. #18. Spot on.

      Whenever someone threatens you with a lawsuit.

      Call their bluff.

      It sounds good “I’ll sue you,unless”, but the legal process has quite a bit more to it.

      $500 for a lawyer’s help got me rid of a real
      c++t.

      Went from wanting me to support him for
      lost earnings to “Not taking the matter
      further”.

      Posted by dver on 2007 06 18 at 06:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. Tim Palmer appears to be yet another tax-payer funded weasel,full of his own importance,two-faced, and unable to answer questions put to him.

      Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 06 18 at 06:06 PM • permalink

 

    1. That’s not FAIR!! Why didn’t Moaning Mouth Monica post my sparkle Paintings on Media WATCH?

      ‘;’;’;;’‘;’;;’;’‘;’;;’

      Also, Moaning Monica failed to report that Tim Blair’s blogger comments (ie. EL-Cid xx) are Americans, and in America they have free speech, unlike the ABC.  Grimmy and Kae you looked good.

      Tim B are you on Net and does that mean an American site?

      Daily Telegraph editor David P, good for you!!

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 06 18 at 06:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. #30 That’s all they do and after 70 years of communism they are incapable of work and are hoping to survive by ripping off Canadian mining companies

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 06 18 at 06:26 PM • permalink

 

    1. When is someone going to kill that POS, Bush and Cheney. Well, actually, I mean torture to death. And their straight kids.

      There, Media Watch, is Tim’s blog “even” now in the hate department? Or is that “free speech”?

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 18 at 06:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. Tim, if Media Watch had an audience you’d have an explosion of interest in the blog. Sadly …

      Posted by lingus4 on 2007 06 18 at 06:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. The sample comments that Media Watch refers to are foolish, no doubt about it.

      But that’s what free speech is. If you limit speech to what you agree with, or what is popular, then it is not free.

      This point came to mind when reading David Marr’s whinge in the Herald about how the hated Howard dictatorship muzzles the ability of the fearless opinionated underground fighters for truth and justice and ….zzzz….losing ability to stay awake here.

      Neither David or his many friends (the Clives, Tracees and Monicas among others) ever have a problem with censorship of ideas that they disagree with.

      That’s what “free speech” means to the left – freedom to agree with their point of view.

      Posted by The Mongrel on 2007 06 18 at 06:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. 41

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      ;;’‘;;;’;’;’;’;’;;’;’;
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      “Muslim Backpack Explosion” By 1.618
      For Sale $12,900

      This would look pretty on Media Wank.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 06 18 at 06:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. The great thing about Media Watch is that every question you have about them has the same answer.

      Why did Media Watch not give Tim a right of reply?

      Why did Media Watch not quote any “anti-Aussie” comments on web-sites?

      Why is it difficult to read or post on Media Watch’s message board?

      Why didn’t Media Watch think it was their job to find out more about the Lebanese ambulance story, even after the Foreign Minister weighed in?

      A: Because they are afraid.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 06:48 PM • permalink

 

    1. Good to see the media calling for more censorship of the media.

      Wait, what?

      Posted by Evil Pundit on 2007 06 18 at 06:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. Let me get this straight: a ‘grown man’ bullies you into making a retraction and apology, and then two years later in response to the unbearable provocation of reading a complimentary comment about you in print, has to send the author an ‘I got Tim, nyah-nyah’ email?  I realize you have to have a mental age of 12 to work for the ABC, but I didn’t know about the requirement for an emotional age of 6.  And did he ever substantiate the Shimon Peres quote?

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 06 18 at 07:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. Fear not, Timmeh. MareeS is sending the husband around

      Posted by JonathanH on 2007 06 18 at 07:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. And it’s not as though Media Watch doesn’t have my contact details

      Well, it is a little hard to find your email address, hidden away right at the top left hand corner of the main page…

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 06 18 at 07:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. Re #48, butbutbutbut Dan!!  It’s not LINKED!  You have to cut and paste it, or even worse, MANUALLY RETYPE IT!!!!

      Oh, the humanity!

      <collapses on the floor, sobbing uncontrollably>

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 18 at 07:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. Aaah the abc – last bastion of the truth and the privately unemployable – unless of course your after a gig with the actu/alp coalition party.

      Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 18 at 07:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. #49 – Mr Palmer and one of his five sons did manually retype it, many times, but it continually bounced. It was the “-at-” in the address that threw them.

      But they are TV and hard-copy newspaper types after all and couldn’t be expected to know too much about this new fangled electronic media business.

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 18 at 07:46 PM • permalink

 

    1. This guy has never read Swift has he? Otherwise he would’ve spotted the Swiftian humour on this site.

      But I guess he’s stupid and believes everything he reads – in the ABC editorial policy book.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 06 18 at 08:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. Tim,

      its the left, what do you expect? There are two quotes, used by the ABC, that are quite ironic:

      For those eager to express their prejudices, there are plenty of new forums in the new media.

      What of writers such as Catherine Devenny and her hate filled rants at those who, gasp, drive four wheel drive cars, or worse, dare to send their child to a private school?

      It’s not just newspaper and online editors who’re prepared to tolerate cyber-racism in the name of free speech.

      In a week where the luvvies have been trumpeting the repression of the Howard created gulag that is Australia, this is particularly hypocritical. Free speech is only for the left to attack its own targets.

      He allowed this vicious discussion about Muslim taxi drivers supposedly knocking back passengers with guide dogs.

      It was an emotive topic. Funny how the old ‘rock, scissors paper’ play by the left gets a run. Imagine if it were white cabbies in Brisbane or Darwin doing this sort of thing? The ABC would have been all over it.

      Posted by Nic on 2007 06 18 at 08:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. #16 Hey, Jack, I’m just up the road (Ottawa) (Yes, I know… but I work for private industry and actually have to make money) How about meeting up?

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 06 18 at 08:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. #35 Grimmy, let’s push this thing along a bit … after all, I’m getting older:

      There is no god but man, and Ginger Baker is his zylophonist

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 06 18 at 08:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. #43 1.618 I’m a bit dissapointed here. Shorely, an explosion should look more like this:

      *  *  #  *
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      |  *  *&  ^  $ # $
      | # # # @# #  (*
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      Kablaam!

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 06 18 at 08:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. Andrew Bolt went on a 5 week holiday a couple of days ago.

      I wonder if that had anything to do with the timing of Media Watch’s spray and Phillip Adams’ spray in today’s Australian(which also has a go at Tim and accuses him of tilting!)

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 06 18 at 08:29 PM • permalink

 

    1. Hey, did the ABC ever venture beyond DEF?

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 06 18 at 08:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. I have a piece on how far out of touch the ABC is with the common folk that pay for them, as demonstrated by last night’s Media Watch hit piece on the Daily Tele and Tim Blair.

      Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 06 18 at 08:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. Sounds he comes from the “fake but accurate” school of reporting.

      Probably studied at the knee of Gunga Dan himself.

      Heck, I bet he even got his Anchorperson kneepads, if you catch my drift.

      Posted by TallDave on 2007 06 18 at 08:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. #57 In the second last par, Adams says that the era of Bush/Howard appears to be coming to an end. This will come as a shock to those expecting W to go on for a third term.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 08:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. #54 Wimpster – why not?  Us Blairites/ SDAnimalians have to stick together.

      Jack

      Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 06 18 at 08:44 PM • permalink

 

    1. You Would NEVER find a racist comment on the Media Watch blog…..um unless its about jews.

      Author Revealer
      Date/Time 18 Jun 2007 9:49:20pm
      Subject So Called Racist Cyper Post, and in News Print

      Some points in reply to your show 2007-06-18.

      The ideals of suppressing ‘Racism’ is a political persuasion, not a commandment. Not all laws are noble nor meant to be honoured thereof.

      Multiculturalism is the highest form of ‘Racism’ as it is the dilution of race.

      A good reporter takes the middle ground, presenting the facts and allowing the viewer/listener to make the opinion. Why then does Media Watch take the angle that protecting-race difference is abhorrent pursuit? Obviously I don’t agree with abuse of other races, but people should express their concerns or opinions of racial insurgencies that bring about dilution.

      The only understanding I can make is that MediaWatch carries the torch for Globalism and maybe even Zionist groups as they are known to push Hate Speech laws so they can’t be questioned themselves in crime. ABC is starting to show a disproportionate number of Jews in the places of power in the ABC.

      Shame on you.

      Posted by sparrow on 2007 06 18 at 08:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. Timmeh here minus his five strapping sons

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 09:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. OK, so we need a moderator to keep the children under control.  We can’t have you naughty monkeys just running around posting the first thing that comes into your head!  Aunty knows best, and she will smack you over the head if you don’t behave.

      Actually, I have to retract that last comment.  Aunty is not allowed to smack anyone over the head.  Aunty will send you to the naughty corner.

      You don’t want to go to the naughty corner?  You must!  You must!  Those are the rules!  Go to the naughty corner!

      Ow! Ow! Ow!  Stop whacking me!  Go to the naughty corner this instant!  I am in charge here!  I decide who post comments and the circumstances in which they post!

      Posted by mr creosote on 2007 06 18 at 09:04 PM • permalink

 

    1. #65

      *whimpers*  But, but, but I don’t WANT Aunty to send me to the naughty corner.

      I want UNCLE to send me to the naughty corner (Aunty just isn’t my type).  I’ve been a bad poster.  A very bad, naughty poster.  I deserve a spanking.

      “A spanking!  A spanking!”

      Posted by Blue State Sil on 2007 06 18 at 09:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. Peter M has pointed out that MW uses introductory text to imply that this site and the Telegraph are in cahoots (sp?).  The PR picture, too.  Isn’t this kind of Blair’s privately operated space?  Like Lileks has the Bleat but works for the Star Tribune (buzz.mn).  Like the Instapundit sometimes writes for TCS.

      These are clearly demarcated to me.  But I don’t know how to say it, since sometimes links are made each way.  Still clear to me though.

      Posted by reese on 2007 06 18 at 09:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. Okay quiz fans. Which former ABC middle east correspondent now famous for his political balance said this:

      Fisk wrote the definitive text on the war in Lebanon – that’s what I admire him for

      Give up?

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 09:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. #63

      Nicely spotted.

      Link here and I’ve put a screenshot here in case it vanishes…

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 06 18 at 09:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. They’ll only claim it was posted by one of us. Be certain of it, Dan.

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 18 at 09:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. I posted the following at the MW message board General section. I’m more or a lurker than a contributor here but appreciate Blair and this site heaps, such a contrast with mainstream outlets…..

      I read via http://www.timblair.net that all the media outlets referenced in your segment “Have Your Spray” were given a chance to comment prior to airing, all except Tim Blair.

      We then read of previous hostilities between Media Watch’s Executive Producer Tim Palmer and Blair concerning threatened lawsuits and gloating by Palmer within the journalist community over his victory in seeking an apology from Blair.

      Was the above in any way relevant to MW’s non-attempt at comment from Blair? Tim Blair quotes that Palmer has previously made the statement to him,

      “I have the right to tell as many people as I like about your shoddy work and about the fact that you, after much posturing, fell in a heap and apologised. I’ve told plenty.”

      This would indicate a strong level of animosity is, or at least was, held by Palmer towards Blair, and now we find that Blair is singled out such that he is unable to respond (on MW) to criticism that Palmer is very much behind.

      Would Palmer care to comment on Blair’s current claim that Palmer’s recalling of the original incident to other journalists was found to be lacking? He even goes so far as to claim that Palmer has lied (your attorney is onto this Tim P?).

      I have all the respect in the world for a man who conducts himself honestly and allows their laundry, dirty or otherwise, be aired in full, and in Tim Blair I see that (he admitted his original error). Tim Palmer on the other hand seems to prefer to smear his opponents dishonestly in private and abuse his tax funded couch for that purpose.

      P.S. “sprays” are speech, as are right of replies – something we do like to be free in Australia. Perhaps there’s some agreement at “my” ABC and I’ll see mine at your site?

      Posted by HC44 on 2007 06 18 at 09:28 PM • permalink

 

    1. I also meant to compliment Tim B. on his adroit use of the non-friendly ‘mate’.  But Tim Palmer will probably decide this constitutes Hate Speech (‘mate’ speech?) and contact his lawyers again.  Still, look on the bright side: it’s safer than writing reviews of Sydney restaurants.

      Posted by cuckoo on 2007 06 18 at 09:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. Websites such as mentioned on meeja witchunt abound, thanks to the Information Age.

      There is sufficient alternative meeja nowadays that our ABC is quickly losing relevance: their self-styled ‘progressives’ are becoming dinosaurs; AFAIK Gen-Y’ers cherrypick their information from all around … not just at Nannie’s feet

      Go Aunty! … moderate the ‘Net (good luck!).

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 09:37 PM • permalink

 

    1. #69 – nice work, Dan. I’ve updated my post. If anyone spots any more of them (preferably from dates prior to last night) then let me know.

      Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 06 18 at 09:38 PM • permalink

 

    1. 5 Old Tanker

      Who gets to light the match????

      I don’t think you have to. Just duct tape whatever the hell sticks out to the oven, cover the dear boy with visquine, turn on oven….should be done to a medium rare in roughly 6 hours.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 09:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. Let me get this straight. I loudly denounced some sheila from the left, calling her a “total twat” and Media Watch has chosen to ignore me? Whose arse do you have to go sperlunking in to get recognition on that damn show?

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 18 at 09:39 PM • permalink

 

    1. #64, margos maid,

      looks like his five strapping sons found that a squirt in his daks.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 09:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. And here’s one about the Adams’ piece in today’s Australian.

      Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 06 18 at 09:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. #77 “that” wasn’t meant to be there.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 09:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. This comment from the Media Watch site is interesting in terms of MW’s own biases:

      Tonights Media Watch feature on racist postings on newspaper sites left no doubt about who the producers thought were responsible for the offending words. Given that all of the offending reads were conducted in what can only be described as very laboured ‘strine’ it would appear that what Sydneysiders might refer to as ‘westies’ or perhaps ‘working class’ people are responsible for the reprehensible comments. Media Watch’s presentation of fact is tainted by the poor voice overs that apparantly are designed to assist us in identifying the good the bad and the ugly.
      Come on team you can and should do better

      Posted by Nic on 2007 06 18 at 09:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. 1.618

      Wonderful to see your fine art work, once again.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 09:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. #76, Infidel Tiger:

      Nayh nayh nahnahnayh! I got quoted and yooo-uuu didn’t!

      Words of advice… Use really small words and long convoluted grammatically incoherent sentences. That seems to draw the proper sort of attention from the leftobotic rantochanter intelektshuls.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 18 at 09:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. #73

      Go Aunty! … moderate the ‘Net (good luck!).

      More powerful than a locomotive; able to leap tall buildings in a single bound…
      Moderate the ‘Net, indeed!

      (I’m sure they think that it can be done, that they can do it at the ABC!)

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 09:52 PM • permalink

 

    1. #71 Well done HC, but still looking for your submission to turn up over at the puzzling MW message board.

      Why is it I doubt they will publish your contribution? Refer to #44.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 09:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. Media Watch did not bother to show any anti white-revert comments on Muslim Village website blog. Why? It would be politically incorrect!

      El-cid – legend! Grimmy-wow Wimpy Canadian_ Yes I needed more %^^%&%^%^&*%^&%^&* kapow

      Tim B, Can we work at Murdoch’s headquarters now that we’re famous bloggers?

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 06 18 at 09:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. #83

      Sorry, forgot to use my new nic/signature.

      kae, racist villifier.

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 18 at 09:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again – Australia has entirely too many Tims.  I can’t keep ‘em all straight.

      Posted by kcom on 2007 06 18 at 09:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. 66 Sil.

      I deserve a spanking.

      If you resemble THIS person, in any way. I shall volunteer. Tough job, but someone nust do it.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. O/T,

      There has been severe flooding in North Texas. Prayers and best wishes to any coommenters and their families.

      Good luck guys.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. Next week Media Watch take the The Warcry to task. Accusing it of “being preachy” and having a subliminal Christian bent.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 18 at 10:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. “For those eager to express their prejudices, there are plenty of new forums in the new media.”

      I was waiting for Media watch to mention the many hate-spewing Islamic sites complete with vicious comments about Australia and Australians, but I guess they ran out of time …

      Posted by dee on 2007 06 18 at 10:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. #43 1.618

      “”;’; ‘’;’; ‘;;’’; ‘;; ;’ ‘;;’
      ;;’’;;;’;’;’;’;’;;’;’;
      ‘;;’’;;’’;;’;’;’’;;’;’;’’;;’;’

      “Muslim Backpack Explosion” By 1.618
      For Sale $12,900

      This would look pretty on Media Wank.

      Not as pretty as this.

      Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 06 18 at 10:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. Spank!

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 06 18 at 10:02 PM • permalink

 

    1. #88, El Cid,

      I used to!!!!!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. #78: Great link, Jack. I like this quote from Phil “Sydney Greenstreet’s Fat Brother” Adams: “We – that is, lefties such as Robert Manne, David Marr and me – have been greatly outnumbered by the right-minded for many a year. Not just an endangered species, our population in the press is so small as to constitute extinction.” Adams and his ilk may be endangered species (which I doubt), but until he kicks off, Adams is still the Brachiosaurus in the back yard, messing up the grass and knocking over the trees of honest citizens.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 10:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. I recommend watching the seige denzel washington.

      I send sparkles/prayer to the man who died on this footage… ;’‘;;’‘;;’

      it makes me sad.

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 06 18 at 10:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. Check out this from moral gatekeeper, Palmer in an email to the Bunyip regarding Bunyip’ website (about half-way down):

      It’s more like watching someone die of prostate cancer. It’s tedious, the viewer may die of something else in the meantime and in the long run you just don’t want to know about it anyway.

      regards

      Tim Palmer

      Charmed, I’m sure.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 10:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. Tiny takes out his “special” book and writes in the name Tim Palmer – then draws a line through it. He puts the book back in his pocket and . . . waits. Watches and waits.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 10:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. 93 Muzzie Zapper

      Gosh, I bet that hurt as much as hitting ones thumb, with a hammer.

      Next time boy, hole the hammer with both hands. Pieces Beyond You.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. OT. Was it someone here who was waiting for the first mention of the ‘looming humanitarian disaster’ in Gaza?

      SPIEGEL VIEW
      ————————————————————————————————————

      Stateless in Gaza: Hamas’ Triumph of Violence
      Hamas wants to rule the poverty-stricken Gaza Strip alone, a prospect
      that alarms neighboring Arab states. Meanwhile, rival party Fatah has
      declared a new emergency government in the West Bank as Hamas-control
      Gaza faces humanitarian disaster.

      http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,489185,00.html

      Posted by SteveGW on 2007 06 18 at 10:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. 94 Pogria

      I used to!!!!!

      Yeah well, I’m betting that the correct parts, stiil do.

      I shall take my spanking position, take yours and be ready for the thrashig around of your life.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. #101,

      oooohhhhhhh!!!!!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. 99 Cid

      Next time boy, hole the hammer

      Oh my, Freudian slip.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. #80
      Strange how the Left depict right wing posters as blue collar, yet their Party as blue chip investors.

      Meeja witchhunt’s/Auntie’s continuous derogatory comments about (Sydney’s) working class/West also goes against the progressives’ alleged support for the working class, Gillard’s championed ‘working Australian families’ … Auntie’s prolly losing wholesale relevance/audience share of aspiring ‘Westies’.

      Small wonder youth allegedly vote right wing, prolly see through socialism’s propaganda, with the ‘Net at their disposal: modern anarchists – their kruddy ole teachers all preach Marx, so they vote for the Right?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 10:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. El Cid,

      being granted recognition by the GREAT GOD ABC has brought out a whole new side to you I’ve never seen before.

      I like it!!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. 102 Pogria

      oooohhhhhhh!!!!!

      That’s it? oooohhhhhhh!!!!!!?? Somehow, I expected more…;).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:23 PM • permalink

 

    1. 105 Pogria

      being granted recognition by the GREAT GOD ABC

      HEY! I can use the other 2925, oh hell, whatever letters too.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:29 PM • permalink

 

    1. #106,

      Sorry Sir,

      I was trying to be quiet. Somebody might hear. We’re not alone in the house.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:31 PM • permalink

 

    1. Media Watch are not so good at moderating their own racist hate-speak it would seem:

      You think media watch is being politicaly correct, i think they are hilighting the fact Australia is becoming a nation of mean spirited white trash. Thats what makes us differant mate!! (sic)

      Posted by Nic on 2007 06 18 at 10:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. 108 Pog

      Sorry Sir

      Sir? I haven’t been nighted (yes, spelled MY way) yet.

      Well, for that matter I haven’t been afternooned, or morninged, either.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. #76 Infidel Tiger, if you’re referring to your calling Kim from Larval Portaloo a twat, then MW won’t be touching that with a ten foot pole.

      That particular occasion was, after all, dealing with the cutting up of girls, and therefore verboten to the leftards programming the show.

      Can’t have the proles getting the idea that FGM (as they like to call it in pc-speak) is ideologically supported by some members of our population now, can we?

      Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 18 at 10:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. #110,

      Sir, is what we call male teachers in Oz.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. #111 – I was hoping they could edit it carefully and show me as the sexist, misogynist, red-necked lush I truly am.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 18 at 10:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. 112

      Sir, is what we call male teachers in Oz.

      Ahhh, I see. Well we called ALL of our teachers…HEY YOU, in NY…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. #88 El Cid: More imposterous hooters! Note that she has to hang onto something to keep from falling over. If those are genuine, El Cid, we expect you to provide the proof; time for some hands-on lab work, buddy.

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 10:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. #112, Pogria:

      You have people in Oz that teach male? How does that work?

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 18 at 10:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. #115: Bring ‘em back alive!

      Posted by paco on 2007 06 18 at 10:43 PM • permalink

 

    1. Got that rancid little fucker (alpee) trapped again at Critt’s..Sheer Twaddle thread

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:45 PM • permalink

 

    1. 115 Paco

      El Cid, we expect you to provide the proof; time for some hands-on lab work, buddy.

      One of two things could occur…

      Firstly, unsnapping may decapitate. (ME)

      Secondly, I’d faint, if it didn’t do the firstly.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:49 PM • permalink

 

    1. #57
      What’s Phatty on about, the MSM appears to be largely ‘progressives’, FFS.
      Perhaps he can’t observe the tone of other commentators/narrative from his ivory tower?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 10:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. Trapped alpee, eh? El Cid, remember what you’re dealing with.

      Winning an argument isn’t what he’s after…

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 18 at 10:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. #116,
      Grimmy, if you don’t know how that works, then your obviously not qualified to help out. 😉

      El Cid,

      I think our session is over for the day.

      Time to get back on topic.

      The flat of Andrea’s spear hurts more than your punishment plank.

      I can see her. She’s got a bag full of mangoes and she’s heading this way!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:54 PM • permalink

 

    1. Mangoes?

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 18 at 10:55 PM • permalink

 

    1. #123,

      Spiny, go back two threads.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 10:57 PM • permalink

 

    1. 121 Spiny Norman

      Well alpee always shows ITS ass (terrible one, I would imagine).

      alpee winning at anything, never.

      Told the the little rat last week sometime, that the better part of IT, was leaked onto ITS procreators dirty sheets.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 10:58 PM • permalink

 

    1. Pogria

      I think our session is over for the day.

      Yes, yes indeed. Was it as good for you, as it was for me?….LOL.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 11:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. #91
      “For those eager to express their prejudices, there are plenty of new forums in the new media.”

      Translation:
      MSM are losing our relevance/control of the populace;
      (One-way) broadcasting is a dinosaur;
      Unmoderated comment on that interactive internet thingy;
      (The Gladdies are no longer downloading the truthiness to their Pods!)
      The sky is falling!

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 11:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. Pogria

      Hi El Cid,

      I want to congratulate you, Grimmy, Howzat and Kae for being singled out for “special mention” by Moronica Retard on Meeja Watch last night.

      I am soooooooooooooo jealous.

      Can I have your autograph?

      NOW, I see what you alluded to, a few up. Hadn’t seen this, until you told Spiny to hit the threads below.

      Where was this and is it in print, or was it the tube?

      And hell yea, you can have my autograph….LOL

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 11:08 PM • permalink

 

    1. Pogria:

      If you want my autograph, you’ll have to bid on it at ebay, just like everyone else.

      Posted by Grimmy on 2007 06 18 at 11:16 PM • permalink

 

    1. #128, El Cid,

      Go to post #59 by Jack Lacton. He has an excellent link to the Media Watch Massacre.

      Your name is first on the list!

      And, yes sir, it was good. When shall I schedule our next lesson? 😉

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 11:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. #129,

      Aw Grimmy,

      was it something I said? 8-(  he he

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 11:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. I seem to recall that Media Watch didn’t have the balls to allow Mark Steyn on air to defend his views either.

      Posted by andycanuck on 2007 06 18 at 11:19 PM • permalink

 

    1. This reminds me of an episode of My Name is Earl where the whole community gets excited about featuring on Cops.

      We have to do this more often.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 18 at 11:20 PM • permalink

 

    1. Pogria

      Just read me yes, me) name. Had I only clicked the first link on this thread…BUT it is so much like cheating to do that…I will read Jacks post and link.

      GOSH! I’m a published author..see that you old HAG Mrs. Barns (English teacher of mine), Ha-Ha.

      Well lemme see…how I gonna sign my autos..hmmm.:).

      Ummm WE shall schedule the next session…equal rights, you know.

      I’m not letting my stardom go to my head, well not that one, anyway….LOL.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 11:24 PM • permalink

 

    1. #134,

      LOL, and again, LOL

      Same time, same Bat channell!!

      #133, Margos Maid,

      I believe you’re onto something there!

      That was one of the best episodes of My Name Is Earl.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 11:27 PM • permalink

 

    1. For crying out loud people!

      You’re supposed to be backing the ABC on this one.  You can’t let the people actually say what they think. Where will it end?  All speech must be moderated and controlled.  If we can moderate what people say, we can moderate what they think!

      Therefore, if we can shut all the lefties up (duct tape, bullet to the back of the head – take your pick), we can turn them all into RWDB’s.

      It worked for Stalin.  It worked for Pol Pot.  It’s working in North Korea.  It should work on Phat Phil as well (given enough time, duct tape and rubber hoses).

      Posted by mr creosote on 2007 06 18 at 11:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. Auntie’s new thought police?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 18 at 11:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. I dunno, I thought the comments from this site were pretty funny- as was Tim Blair getting his photo on every single one. What’d have been even funnier would be watching the show as they put bogan accents over yankee comments.

      Clueless twats.

      Posted by wreckage on 2007 06 18 at 11:34 PM • permalink

 

    1. #136,

      A “lot” of duct tape and rubber hoses!!!

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 11:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. He allowed this vicious discussion about Muslim taxi drivers supposedly knocking back passengers with guide dogs.

      Leftist swine. It has and did happen, in the U.S. YOU ABC and whatever the hell your programme is (to use your dialect of English) are collaborators, in the spread of THIS

      How can you “people” sleep at night and how this earth can you people live with yourselves?

      Let ME answer…Not very damn well. May you find the same fate, that Nick Berg, did. You foul bastards.

      El Cid

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 11:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. Oh you leftist pricks, ANYTIME you want to find my real name, just email through Tim Blair…I won’t even have to guess who sent it, I’ll smell the stench.

      El Cid

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 18 at 11:38 PM • permalink

 

 

    1. $140 and #141,

      Damn, El Cid!

      All jokes, teasing and mucking about aside, I am honoured to know you.

      That was ONE Passionate response.

      I am absolutely stoked to be on the same side.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 18 at 11:53 PM • permalink

 

    1. #72 Muzzie Zapper and #140 El Cid: Yuk.

      Let’s not get too carried away in demonstrating pictorially the ugliness that is militant Islam.

      I get your anger, though, and feel it too. Why can’t Palmer and his ilk?

      Posted by Dminor on 2007 06 19 at 12:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. Pogria

      I am honoured to know you.

      Awww shucks…It is an equal honor to know you, Pog.

      I am absolutely stoked to be on the same side.

      Again, it is my honor to have you and the other commentors here, as well as other Blogs on the same side. OUR side is the correct side.

      Now I must barn my steed, good night all. may your tomorrow exceed your today. Mine will, as soon as my eyes open…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 12:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. Good Knight, El Cid.

      Posted by Pogria on 2007 06 19 at 12:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. It takes a real man to appologise even if he didn’t want to.

      Blair news, it’s gutsy and it’s good.

      love 1.618 xx

      Posted by 1.618 on 2007 06 19 at 12:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. #147
      Spot on, 1.6.

      Tim’s the bigger man, Palmer lives up to his namesake; he’s not doing Auntie any favours in the long run.
      Hopefully, this petty get-even backfires and the site gets more patronage (not that it needs it?).

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 12:32 AM • permalink

 

    1. One thing, isn’t MW publishing all this “hate thought” to show how bad it is falling foul of exactly the the same laws that they accuse Tim Blair and others of breaking by publishing it in the first place?

      Fairs fair, if no one is allowed to publish the hate filled thoughts of RWDBs doesn’t that mean that MW can’t publish those same thoughts to demonstrate that an awful crime is being comitted.

      Posted by jpaulg on 2007 06 19 at 12:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. #74

      An excellent post, Jack Lacton and you are welcome. You were too humble in not posting a gratutitous link to your piece. So I shall.

      Linkitydoodah.

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 06 19 at 12:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. #83
      Reckon they could’ve done a better job on your bogan voiceover … something akin to Python’s housewives’ voices? 🙂

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 12:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. Media Watch’s solution to moderating the net appears to be in publishing very little at all.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 19 at 12:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. #97 – Margos Maid
      Managed to sneak through* a rather don’t-say-too-much-at-all comment over at MW, which included Palmer’s quote to Prof Bunyip about the utter tedium watching someone die of prostate cancer.
      Clearly Mr Palmer or any of his five strapping sons are not moderating at the moment. Or they’ve forgotten all about it.

      (*) Hope the URL isn’t too long

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 19 at 01:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #151
      I’m sure I don’t sound THAT awful.

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 19 at 01:12 AM • permalink

 

    1. I don’t always agree with you Tim and yes, some of your commenters could do with some mouth wash, but here is my take.

      Posted by saint on 2007 06 19 at 01:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. #154
      ‘course not … those witty MW ppl are tryin’ to parody us …

      Timmeh Palmer over at meeja crotch has his finger on the pulse at all times!

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 01:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. #153 Nice work WS!

      Here’s an interesting website.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 19 at 01:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. #153

      They’re onto to you WS, message gorn

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 06 19 at 01:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. #153
      Didn’t stay there for long.

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 19 at 01:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. The message at the link #153 reads:

      Unable to display message. The selected message is not valid or no longer exists.

      Accuracy ain’t their strong point, is it?

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 19 at 01:39 AM • permalink

 

    1. #153, Whale Spinor,

      I just tried the link and got a message that that the comment had been removed.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 06 19 at 01:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. The message about the ABC and Jews stayed there for hours.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 19 at 01:40 AM • permalink

 

    1. Tim,

      You need a vote thing.

      Should the ABC sack Palmer?
      a) Now
      b) He should never have been employed in the first place
      c) no

      I wonder can we hound the parasite out his “job”.

      Posted by Rob Read on 2007 06 19 at 01:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. WS – for the sake of those coming in late, and to demonstrate what constitutes a seditious internet posting, would you do us the favour of posting your MW submission here?

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 19 at 01:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. #163
      Palmer slips and gets the sack … fitting.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 01:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. # 164 and those preceding…

      And for that matter, youse (note lower class, nose-picking yobbo spelling) blokes and blokettes from the ABC who are visiting, so that you can scurry back to your little burrows and censor any sneaky Blairtype commentators, let me say this – I may be wet, but I didn’t come down in the last shower.

      Viola!

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 19 at 01:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. #153 Whale spinor

      Your comment has been “disappeared” from MW

      You have been moderated!

      Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 06 19 at 01:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. Some wit on the MW board reckons sites like this are chatrooms for rednecks

      Curious as to what Wiki says about rednecks, I looked it up and found, among other things:

      People who work outdoors, including poor farmers who farm poor red soil.
      Indentured servants.
      Members of the United Mineworkers Union (USA circa 1910).
      Rednecks span from the poor to the working class.

      And lots more.

      It seems to me that when members of the left use the term redneck to rubbish anyone that odes not share their world view, they do so on the backs of the poor and working class, the very people that they pretend to champion.

      Not being a student of literature, is this irony, hypocrisy, bad manners or just sneering abuse?

      I think there is a certain nobility in working the land, either on it or under it.

      But hey, what would I know.

      I’m just a redneck

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 06 19 at 02:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. I realise I’m madder than a cut snake with a dose of the clap, but aren’t these censorious Charlie’s the same ones who were railing against JWH’s sedition laws? And weren’t they also claiming “Piss Christ” was artistic freedom? Etcetera etcetera.

      A welcome glimpse of what life will be like if they ever get their hands on the key to The Lodge.

      P.S – The staff canteen called and have asked Monica to return the soup bowl if she’s finished her hair cut.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 19 at 02:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ref mine at #166 – try this Viola! instead. The previous had my name on it.

      (Maybe I did come down in the last shower after all!)

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 19 at 02:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #169

      IT – I hope this isn’t a late afternoon call for the heaping of puerile, juvenile abuse upon Monica Fattarse?

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 06 19 at 02:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. #166 I would love to hear their reason for censoring your post, WS.

      Nobody is named and I would have thought it was a fair point.

      OT I just can’t get enough of this way cool website.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 19 at 02:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. The ABC – putting the pride in prejudice.

      —Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 06 19 at 02:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. #171 – I’m afriad it is, Pickles. If God hadn’t wanted RWDB’s to take the piss gently he would have issued us catheters and painkillers, not horns and pitchforks.

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 19 at 02:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. #172 MM – I would suggest that if I hadn’t posted here at #153, then my MW post would still be there. It’s pretty obvious some ABC luvvies are wading their way through all these posts to see if wordings or themes correlate with anything that lobs on their message board. And good luck to them, they’ll be on overtime in another 45 minutes.

      Anyway, that’s why I thought it wise to put the post on image shack once it appeared on MW.

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 19 at 02:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #168 ref #104

      There is a post in the meeja watch board re censorship: Media Watch as guilty as those in their story? that appears to be saying that MW is trying to impose newsprint style censorship to live forums.

      Socialist dinosaurs strike again.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 02:23 AM • permalink

 

    1. #176

      Yep, yairs. The whole argument about MW is probably irrelevant as, after all, this is the ABC we’re talking about and by any measure no one watches it, no one listens to it and no one cares about it or the people on it.

      As for the Friends of the ABC, I’ve seen more people gathered around a dead snake.

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 06 19 at 02:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. Journalist Irfan Yusuf responds to the story with barely restrained glee:

      Tim, I’d love to see how much longer you’d last at News Limited if you and your friends started posting comments about Asians or Chinese being turned into compost. Or Jews. Or any other group.

      Don’t miss the part where he also accuses commenters here of being ‘in-bred’, labels the blog ‘a major media embarrassment’ and seems to believe that Islam is a race.

      Hmmm…a guy who is published in everything from the SMH to the Geelong Advertiser who describes other journalists as embarrassments to their employers, accuses commenters of incestuous behaviour and can’t tell the different between a race and a religion? Perhaps MediaWatch just ran out of time and will deal with Irf next week.

      Or is there another factor that is somehow keeping Irf safe from the ABC?

      Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 06 19 at 02:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. #170 Whale Spinor – Please accept my compliments on such a reasonable and well expressed view put to MW.  How strange that MW would see fit to remove your comments.  And oh yes, I’m sure the good Professor would be proud of you too!

      Funny people at the ABC.  With this latest storm (hmm I wonder if it has something to do with Sydney’s weather?) I actually took time out to watch the segment on line only to reinforce a conclusion I had reached years ago when I stopped watching it. The show is a load of cobblers and the current mob of presenters are rank amateurs by any standard.

      Posted by Wand on 2007 06 19 at 02:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. #169
      The staff canteen called and have asked Monica to return the soup bowl if she’s finished her hair cut.

      Apparently, a large cucumber and turkey baster are also missing.

      Palmer sex tape?
      (Reasonably work friendly).

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 02:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ello, ello, ello, the first comment Tim points to in his update has linked to has been edited on the Media Watch site.

      Compare and contrast the difference between the link and sparrow’s block quote.

      My, my those moderators have been busy at the ABC. They appear to have retrospectively edited comments in past few hours.

      —Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 06 19 at 02:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. Damn PIMF my first paragraph, you know what I mean.

      —Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 06 19 at 03:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. #180
      Also missing large bottle of vinegar and bag of lemons.

      Posted by Pickles on 2007 06 19 at 03:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. #181 – Someone take screenshots of the other one. I doubt it will remain there long.

      Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 06 19 at 03:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. #178
      Irf Yusuf … sounds like an insult.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 03:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. #184
      Got it.

      —Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 06 19 at 03:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. #177

      The whole argument about MW is probably irrelevant as, after all, this is the ABC we’re talking about and by any measure no one watches it, no one listens to it and no one cares about it or the people on it.

      But every working Australian is forced to pay for it.

      Al-ABC should go from conscription to subscription

      Posted by Rob Read on 2007 06 19 at 03:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’ve posted this before, but it seems appropriate to do it again

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 19 at 03:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. Miss Attard and her ilk never get around to asking the hard questions.  Why do so many people feel this way towards the peurile ideology of Islam, the declaration of war on our civilised way of life, the belligerent attitude of Muslim squealers such as Keysar Trad and Hilali.  The cretins that plot to blow up innocent people, fatwas, homicide bombers, dumbass Ayatollahs (It was Khomeini’s little green book that informed me of what to do with the meat of Donkeys, Camels and Goats if they had been sexually penetrated, sell it in another village) telling me what I can and can’t read.  These are just the tip of the Iceberg of Bullshit and warped trash emanating from the ideology of violence and ignorance known as Islam.  Do some homework Attard you failed again.

      Posted by Howzat on 2007 06 19 at 03:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. #184
      This one?

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 03:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. #78 Jack, thanks for the link.

      Phatty on leanings to the right:

      These towering intellects recall that famous tower in Pisa in that they have a perilous tilt and all in the same direction.

      Were they boats, they’d list alarmingly to starboard. If aircraft, their lack of left wings would have them plummeting to earth.

      A free lesson in aerodynamics for you Phil:
      An aircraft lacking a left wing does NOT lean to the right.

      Posted by Skeeter on 2007 06 19 at 03:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. In all seriousness, I’m intrigued by the retrospective editing of quotes that got through Media Watch’s censor moderator.

      It’s been pointed out above that commenters here have their contributions deleted once they mention that they have cross-posted on this site.

      Something else old media (yeah, you Tim Palmer, we know you’re reading) doesn’t realise, is bloggers like Tim with a good reputation and following have thousands of researchers and fact checkers who are quite happy to put the hours in for free.

      —Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 06 19 at 03:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hi egg_, I got the second link but you can see from your screengrab, the difference between it and sparrow’s block quote.

      —Nora

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 06 19 at 03:32 AM • permalink

 

    1. 193 🙂
      Yup!

      A big, fat ‘EDIT’ in place thereof.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 03:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. #177

      Yes, but the object of the gathering is the same; they just want to poke it.

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 19 at 03:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. #154
      From the credits, Michelle Doake was your voiceover person: a shakespearean actress, no less! 🙂

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 04:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. Palmer can be as smug and smarmy as he likes. Media watch used to be compulsory viewing in my newsroom. But then along came david marr and his fellow travellers, such as Palmer, is now the office TV stays off on Monday nights.

      It is nothing to do with politics – most of my colleagues are as besotted with the left as anywhere is else in pravda fairfax. What Palmer and his cronies did is take something worthwhile,interesting and at times infuriating and made it boring. Great effort.

      Posted by Contrail on 2007 06 19 at 04:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. #192

      Something else old media (yeah, you Tim Palmer, we know you’re reading) doesn’t realise, is bloggers like Tim with a good reputation and following have thousands of researchers and fact checkers who are quite happy to put the hours in for free.

      parry, parry, THRUST.

      well done, Nora, excellent finish!

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 19 at 04:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. 93 Muzzie Zapper:

      I think there might have been some payback after this. The guy speaking to the failed bomber is seeking information on the location of the house he prepared his attempt from.

      Posted by Abu Chowdah on 2007 06 19 at 04:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. #198
      Hear! Hear!
      A first class smackdown to ole meeja.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 04:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. Just like living in glorious Cuba. Viva la GAYBC!

      Posted by Srekwah on 2007 06 19 at 04:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. #137
      David Marr-diGras prolly likes Lt Jim Dangle’s short shorts.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 04:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. Visited the ABC complaints site given by MM at #172 and complained as follows –

      At 1:47:00PM on 19 June 2007, you posted a comment from me about the Media Watch program of the previous evening. It was published in its entirety, so presumably passed your moderation process. The post did not mention any person, web site, group, race, religion, sexual orientation or disability. It contained not one solitary word that could be considered “bad language”. It was merely a post that attempted to point out that what some people may find offensive, others may not and I gave a personal example of my father’s death. I also gave my opinion that sites that are not moderated need not be visited by anyone who is offended by the content. The post was by author, “Perplexed” and the subject was, “A champion for censorship”.

      Within ten minutes or so the whole post was deleted. I have the following complaint/questions and would appreciate honest answers without obfuscation –

      1. Why was my post originally passed by your moderators if it did not meet your posting guidelines?
      2. What are these guidelines? I did not breach any of the ones listed on your web page
      3. Who decided to delete your post? Clearly not the moderator as that person had already cleared it. Who informed your moderator to delete the post? Is it normal practice that someone else within the ABC can over-rule a moderator’s decision?
      4. What specifically caused you to delete the post? I do not want a generic statement, I would like to see the specific words and phrases and why exactly you consider them offensive enough to delete the post.
      5. Did you delete the post because you disagreed with its content?

      If you are unable to locate the post on your backup system, an image of it can be found at the this URL

      I would have hoped that the ABC is above this sort of nonsense.

      Don’t imagine I’ll get any sort of coherent response.

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 19 at 04:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. FYI: Geyser Trad currently on ABC RN ‘straya Talks.

      Posted by egg_ on 2007 06 19 at 04:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. #203

      Dear Mr Spinor,

      Thank you for your correspondence.

      Our research indicates that you are not a gay, Paddington dwelling, socialist with a penchant for papier mache puppets. As such, you do not fit our target demographic and are of no earthly interest to us. Please take a holiday involving sex and travel.

      Up Yours
      ABC Management

      Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 06 19 at 04:43 AM • permalink

 

    1. Please take a holiday involving sex and travel

      I’d love to, but I suppose I’ll just have to fuck off instead

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 19 at 05:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. Bravo WS. If you’re not satisfied with your response there are other avenues.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 06 19 at 05:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. #205,

      For the luvvies, would that be a tour to say Cambodia, led by Gary Glitter?

      Posted by Nic on 2007 06 19 at 05:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hmmm.  Apparently, it’s not ok to discriminate against somebody because they believe Jews are apes and pigs, and they revere somebody who murdered hundreds and shagged little girls…

      Cue the spooky music…

      Yet, strangley, it’s ok to print letters which advocate the decapitation of the leader of the Roman Catholic church in Australia because he discussed politics with…wait for it…politicians.

      Posted by murph on 2007 06 19 at 06:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hmmm. The first post in the Update has been “edited”.

      It seems Media Watch don’t like being watched.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 19 at 06:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. #205 IT

      Brilliant. Bloody brilliant.

      Posted by murph on 2007 06 19 at 07:25 AM • permalink

 

    1. 178 As to….Irfan Yusuf

      Tim, I’d love to see how much longer you’d last at News Limited if you and your friends started posting comments about Asians or Chinese being turned into compost. Or Jews. Or any other group.

      I believe Mr. Blair would last quite a while, for you see he is lean and does NOT eat the remains of freshly blown apart peoples, (ready created for “compost” piles) as you seem to do, judging by your size.

      started posting comments about Asians

      I do believe, oh portly one, that the Islamist “Asians” are doing a rather good job at that now.

      Chinese being turned into compost

      Oh portly one, you see the Chinese, would do an even more ghastly job at
      creating, “compost”, than the Russians.

      Or Jews

      Oh portly one, another totalitarian did in fact do that, last century and he became quite fond of totalitarians, A Mufti, I believe.

      Irfan Yusuf
      I was born some time back. I’m currently alive. No doubt one day I will pass away or pass out, whichever comes first. Until then, I’m a Sydney-based workplace relations lawyer, occasional lecturer in politics at Macquarie University and freelance columnist/writer.
      View my complete profile

      As to the above…By the looks of the thumbnail you posted, I don’t think my screen is large enough, to “View my complete profile”

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 07:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. Irfan Yusuf
      I was born some time back. I’m currently alive. No doubt one day I will pass away or pass out, whichever comes first.

      Before or after the failed career in comedy?

      Posted by murph on 2007 06 19 at 07:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. #212
      Um
      In China the do compost Chinese.

      I know of academics doing field trials in China who have been unable to use a certain part of a paddock because old uncle (or whoever) is buried there, and it cannot be used for a certain amount of time.

      Don’t laugh.

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 19 at 07:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. Kae

      You are correct of course. I was taking a simplistic route, so the portly one, would connect all on his own.

      BUT then because of his
      statements, “simplistic” would be way over his head.

      To think, as he states, he is a lawyer. A lawyer who is qualified in the use of the science of words and use them against others.

      I would guess, that because he wore no cravat in his thumbnail, all of his have food stains on them.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 07:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. Until we’re using words like “notgood” and “doubleplus notgood” the good folks at the ABC will not really be happy.

      Posted by wreckage on 2007 06 19 at 07:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hey, Shag, er, El Cid.

      Yeah, you’re right.

      didja get my email?

      Posted by kae on 2007 06 19 at 08:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. Besides, Grimmy’s reformed. They should see what he USED to post. *shudder* He’s just doing his best to be playful and cuddle these days, and if he doesn’t have a full understanding of “cuddly” or “playful” then it’s really the fault of the socio economic strata failed by society white man’s interference non-traditional law homophobia islamophobia grimmyophobia education system insitutionalised religion modern society right wing ideologues Chritianists Jews the Middle East George W Bush John Winston Howard War for Oil Quebecan secession movement saturated fats.

      Posted by wreckage on 2007 06 19 at 08:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. Irfan Yusuf is a beautiful person.

      /end sarcasm

      Posted by Mike_W on 2007 06 19 at 08:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. kae

      Going right now, dear lady, to see if I did receive…BAD me. I blame it on the left of your country, I was amazed and gratified at the outrage my “compost” caused…LOL.

      I await the cause celeb, when it hits this country…BUT, I must pull my head out of the clouds, you see the left here, uses that term to describe, all the correct thinking people, on the right…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 08:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. El Cid, you should download the vodcast of it so you can truly appreciate Monica’s sneer.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 19 at 08:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. kae

      Reply sent.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 08:20 AM • permalink

 

    1. Odd thing about moderating – when it is done, it is a lot like censorship. But censorship is poison as far as the left luvvies are concerned – at least when someone is stopping them from viewing some crap, sexually violent film noir like Ken Park. Who could forget Margaret Pomeranz in tears when a cop turned off the projector on that fateful night in Balmain, when she defied the censors!
      Imagine my surprise when on ABC’s AM (Radio National) this morning I heard reporter Lauren Hart suggesting that the gold AK47 souvenired from Iraq (possibly the one used by Saddam at ceremonial events) might not be an appropriate display for the War Memorial. Whaaaaat?
      Moderating comments has its virtue, but not when under the control of the (some animals are more equal than other animals) ABC!

      Posted by blogstrop on 2007 06 19 at 08:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ash_

      El Cid, you should download the vodcast of it so you can truly appreciate Monica’s sneer.

      I wonder what her drippings would look and sound like, IF (god forbid, nasty diseases, you know) stuck a big one, up her ass?

      Would it be “oh God’….or “OH GAWD, more, more, don’t stop, please”…lol.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 08:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. OH, pardon my terrible manners…Hi Monica. We have had (or I should say Clinton did) our Monica over here, the U.S. lest you be confused.

      Bill, (he told me to call him that) used a cigar. I have access to some really good sized Cuban cigars. Would you prefer that?

      Have a lovely day, at the office, Monica my love….:).

      Signed,

      Compost (my Nom de Plume) Thank you, darling.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 08:32 AM • permalink

 

    1. #224, Probably more like Arw, Gord.

      I don’t want to think about it anymore.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 06 19 at 08:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. Grimmy, I overlooked your contribution to the racist, homophobic, white-trash RWDB conspiracy that is us.  Please forgive my oversight, and keep up the good work.  Today Media Watch, tomorrow the world!

      [/bad joke for lefties who don’t get the humor, or even the humour, thing]

      Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 06 19 at 08:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. Grimmy, kae and all others “quoted”. Damn good job.

      OH, the voice(s) some did hear for us’ins, the terrible racist, inbred right thinkers, that want Islamism (the brand now Live, From NY, its Saturday Night) STOPPED, are our actual voices.

      And you guys thought me an American, from NY…pshsawwwww.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 06 19 at 09:14 AM • permalink

 

    1. Gee, communists lefties practicing censorship and hypocrisy?  Who woulda thunkit?

      Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 19 at 09:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. Yeah, heaven forbid, this “in bred” low-life Aussie was born and lives in Virginia.  You know, that place on the east coast of the UNITED STATES?

      God, they gave me the giggles.  Did they even try to research where we’re commenting from?  That the Internet actually comprises the whole world?  HAHAHAHA.  Whew!  Thanks for the laugh, Media Watch!

      Elizabeth
      Imperial Keeper

      Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 06 19 at 09:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. World consanguinity map.

      Posted by stahlblume on 2007 06 19 at 11:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. My comment on Media Watch’s discussion board:

      “Other viewers might see comments such as those on Tim Blair’s blog, suggesting ways of killing and disposing of the bodies of Muslim taxi drivers as exceeding reasonable free speech.”

      To read such comments in this manner is to have little idea of the notion of register or an eagerness to ignore it, whichever applies.  This example is nothing more than the provocative raised finger, a kind of dare; to think that it seriously suggests ways and means of murdering and disposing of bodies is absurd.

      Which is not to say that many comments on blogs are not prejudicial.  But what seems to be missed is the thought that all belief begins with prejudice and evolves only by rubbing up against what is better informed. Nor does it allow for words as registers of feeling, however angry.  Blogs are not Platonic dialogues or the grottoes of sophistry many on the left take for intelligent discussion; they reflect the intelligence, cantakerousness, prejudices, opinions and feelings of the community at large;  the ‘diversity’ which we hear so trumpeted by the mandarins at the ABC and their cousins elsewhere, in fact.

      Blogs’ glory is their chaotic variousness and quarrelsome willingness to roll up the sleeves and have a go.  Of course there are some who want the hoi polloi to shut up and listen to their ‘betters’ and the language of this story has all the tell tale signs of the tut-tutting of our self-appointed gatekeepers: the suspicion of ‘new forums’, i.e. those which are not under OUR control; the unseemly willingness of papers to engage in dialogue with their readers; the need for a ‘tighter rein’; the invocation of controversial laws to intimidate and silence; the desire for ‘stringent moderation’; the assumption of infallibility about ‘what adds to the debate’; the easy spraying about of terms like ‘racism’; the necessity of ‘rules’ and the danger of giving inferiors ‘too much rope’.  The nannytollahs know best.

      “The program sought a range of opinions from editors on the kinds of statements they were prepared to publish online as opposed to the print version of their papers.”  This is again disingenuous.  The comments were obviously cherry-picked from a left wing perspective.  That the woefully ignorant anti-American and anti-semitic prejudices, intellectual vanity and socio-economic snobberies so freely aired on left wing blogs were entirely absent from the programme was obvious.

      Media Watch’s harping insistence that it is an objective policeman of media standards is becoming tedious. Either its bias is so inbred that it stimulates myopia or it is part of a conscious programme to enforce uniformity of opinion and attitude.  The effect is the same.

      ‘Reasonable’ free speech is an oxymoron.  Who gets to say what is ‘reasonable’? “Even despotism does not produce its worst effects, so long as Individuality exists under it; and whatever crushes individuality is despotism by whatever name it may be called, and whether it professes to be enforcing the will of God or the injunctions of men.” I shouldn’t have to be quoting J.S. Mill to the left rather to puritans and authoritarians – but what is the difference now?

      Really, the nannies want to wake up and realise that Australia is no longer Paul Keating’s geometric rose garden of political correctness and that others have positions which may demand some cognisance.  They might like to take a leaf from the Euston Movement which is trying to purge a lot of this nonsense from leftist discourse. A start might be to understand that free speech is not ‘divisiveness’ but health, the central institution of robust democracy.

      In any case Media Watch is naive because it exposes the biases of the usurpers of the Australian public broadcaster with embarrassing obviousness. But how long the taxpayer can continue to finance far left control of the ABC is an urgent question.
      WilliamArrow, your aim is true. 

      Posted by Inurbanus on 2007 06 19 at 12:00 PM • permalink

 

    1. Well said, Inurbanus!  Thank you.

      Posted by saltydog on 2007 06 19 at 06:33 PM • permalink

 

    1. #232 – Nice one Inurbanus! At this rate you’ll have to drop the In from your name.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2007 06 19 at 06:35 PM • permalink

 

    1. saltydog, blogstrop – thanks

      ‘Inurbanus’ is Latin for rude and what would be the point of blogs if you can’t be a little inurbanus to pompous pissants?

      Posted by Inurbanus on 2007 06 19 at 08:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. What Paplmer and his ilk don’t seem to grasp is that the views of Blairites about jihadis and the Muslims who support them are not prejudice, they are postjudice.  That is, we have examined what they say and do and come to conclusions about them via logical reasoning based on evidence.  Of course, lefties and members of the MSM may not understand that process.

      Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 06 20 at 12:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. Rude would perhaps be not urbane, civilised, or sophisticated, which your comments at 232 certainly were.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2007 06 20 at 05:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. “Half a busload of Pollies at the bottom of a cliff is a waste of half a bus”

      “John Howard needs his arse kicked over this one”

      “the first thing we do, is kill all the lawyers”

      “You’re cruisin’ for a bruisin’”

      “Yeah, you wanna go eh?”

      Sweet Holy ABC, my everyday speech is a seething festering evil THING of violence and hatred! No wonder everyone who talks to me goes off and commits violent crime.

      Hyperbole. Irony. If only everyone would be utterly, utterly earnest all the time, wouldn’t everyday discourse be nice and bland and safe. I also advocate the outlawing of chili, mustard, curries of all kinds, and hard liquor, as they give me a dweadful tummyache.

      Posted by wreckage on 2007 06 20 at 08:32 AM • permalink

 

  1. wreckage

    Reminds me of the characters in the ‘next generation’ of ‘Star Trek’ – nice, bland and safe.  This is the kind of world that is being wished on us.

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2007 06 21 at 05:04 AM • permalink