NATION SENT TO NAUGHTY CORNER

Hang your heads in shame, fellow Australians:

The United Nations Association of Australia has written a report strongly criticising Australia’s recent record on international issues.

The report gives Australia a ‘C’ on human rights, nuclear disarmament and aid, while on climate change and migration Australia gets a ‘D’.

Human rights? In Australia, we don’t jail protesters; we give them lots of money. Nuclear disarmament? Australia has no nuclear weapons. Aid? Apparently one billion dollars to Indonesia isn’t enough. Climate change? We only generate 1.5% of the planet’s warmy gases. Migration? According to leftoid Clive Hamilton: “Rarely in our history has a federal government pursued such a high level of immigration as the Howard Government.”

A former ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Woolcott, says Australia’s reputation within the UN has suffered over the past few decades.

Good. Meanwhile, Zimbabwe heads the UN’s commission on Sustainable Development.

“Of course it’s been greatly influenced by Iraq, I mean the Iraq situation has rather frayed existing alliances,” he said.

Not any important ones. In fact, they’ve likely become stronger.

“Then there’s the issue of style, there’s a tendency of Australia’s part now which partly stems from Iraq, to lecture more and listen less.”

Maybe we learned that from you, Richard.

(Via Alan R.M. Jones)

UPDATE. Fast Eddie responds:

Dear UN,

And proud of it,

Sincerely,

Australia.

PS Now get stuffed.

Posted by Tim B. on 07/23/2007 at 06:28 AM
    1. Yeah, they can point the finger at Australia. They know it’s a safe bet. Nothing will happen to them. It’s too hard to point the finger backward.
      Meanwhile, the despots and megalomaniacs are carrying on regardless ruining their countries and disappearing their people.

      Posted by kae on 2007 07 23 at 06:38 AM • permalink

 

    1. “Gaggle of Thugs Scolds Nation For Not Being Evil Enough.”

      Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 07 23 at 06:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. I lost all respect for UN a long time ago.  But this is probably the lowest they have stooped for a long time!

      Posted by Baron on 2007 07 23 at 06:45 AM • permalink

 

    1. The ABC always goes to Woolcott. Back when the UN was debating the Iraq matter there were much better statements made by John Dauth, our ambassador to the UN at that time.

      Posted by blogstrop on 2007 07 23 at 06:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. The United Nations Association of Australia is not an official UN body though its values are indistinguishable from the morally malnourished ones of the UN itself.

      Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 07 23 at 06:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. With stories like this to face down, the UN’s playing a desperate game of Holier-Than-Thou.

      Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 23 at 06:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. Worse still, we’re a nation of Gore-Haters!!

      Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 07 23 at 06:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. Media release of the Indonesia Human Rights Committee, 3 July, 2000:

      “Why do they want to listen to a thoroughly discredited person like this – an implacable opponent of East Timor’s liberation and a leading propagandist for Indonesia during the Suharto years?” asked Maire Leadbeater for the Indonesia Human Rights Committee. “I cannot imagine that he has anything worthwhile to tell New Zealanders about East Timor or Indonesia.”

      “Richard Woolcott has a deeply shameful record. He betrayed the people of East Timor way back in 1975 when he persuaded the Australian government to give Indonesia ‘the big wink’ – the go ahead to invade. In an infamous cable from Jakarta Woolcott told his government not to criticise Indonesian border incursions and to keep in mind the sea bed resources of oil in the Timor Gap – a stand he himself described as ‘pragmatic rather than principled’.”

      Reporters Without Borders on the recent Coroner’s Court investigation into the murder of the Balibo Five:

      Woolcott said he organised their burial after getting the agreement of the victims’ families. But in a statement read to the court on 18 May, Peters’ sister, Maureen Tolfree, said none of the families had given their agreement to a burial in Jakarta. She added that she was arrested by members of the Indonesian security services, questioned and then sent back to London two days before the burial.

      Posted by C.L. on 2007 07 23 at 07:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. Thanks Dick.
      If I remmber rightly, you were Australia’s Ambassador in Jakarta when your mate Gough Whitless gave the nod to the Indos to invade East Timor.
      History has proved that to be a high point for human rights and immigration. Well immigration anyway, I’m not too sure about the human rights.

      Posted by Hobbes on 2007 07 23 at 07:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. A former ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Woolcott, says Australia’s reputation within the UN has suffered over the past few decades.

      That’s all I need to know – A+ Australia – well done.

      Nuclear disarmament – what a joke – Australia has an acknowledged leading role in the North Korea nuclear crisis, but this socialist wank tank says the opposite.  Bollocks!

      I am completely furious today – the media has falsely reported on the AFP on Haneef and media TART Beattie has defamed the lot of them – I so want to introduce him to some reality check it’s not funny.  What the hell is going on with this country when a so-called premier will defame his police force so little kevin doesn’t look like the shit stirrer?  A sign of the times – wait until Labor is in power everywhere, and then see what happens to your country.

      Posted by peter m on 2007 07 23 at 07:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. #10 Peter, yes, Beattie’s behaviour over all this has just about made me want to vomit. The man is an utter shit.

      —Nick the Profane

      Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 07 23 at 07:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. UN and respect? Not in the same sentence, pleease.

      Posted by SandiM on 2007 07 23 at 07:21 AM • permalink

 

    1. Woolcott, a sort of cut-price Australian Jimmmeee Carter.

      What grades does the same Australian UN Association give the UN on:

      1. Capacity to stop genocides it knows are coming, or are happening for years?

      2. Capacity to stop venality, incompetence and corruption at all its bureaucratic levels, including the top?

      3. Standard of moral sexual leadership in its missions?

      4. Speed of responding to urgent disasters like the Indonesian Tsunami?

      5. Moral leadership in its endless numbers of committee State appointments?

      6. Advancing democracy in its member states over 60 yrears.

      Posted by Barrie on 2007 07 23 at 07:27 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dear Australia:

      From New Jersey, the Garden State and the Landfill of Opportunity, a hearty well-done and keep up the good work!

      Posted by SSG Pooh on 2007 07 23 at 07:33 AM • permalink

 

    1. Oh dear. How long is your time out, OZ? AND no more dropping a pencil, to look up the young ladies skirts, either.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 07 23 at 07:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dear UN,

      And proud of it,

      Sincerely,

      Australia.

      PS Now get stuffed.

      Posted by Fast Eddie on 2007 07 23 at 07:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. A former ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Woolcott, says Australia’s reputation within the UN has suffered over the past few decades.

      I’ve always wondered why lefties trot out the ‘international reputation’ furphy over things they disapprove, as if it’s some kind of valid point.  Who on Earth cares what Oz does, and what’s it matter what they think?

      Now I see it’s our ‘international reputation’ among the internationalists that they’re talking about.  Still doesn’t matter, though.

      Posted by romeo on 2007 07 23 at 07:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. Hmmm… the UNAA.
      Golly the vice patrons are a who’s who of intellectual probity*. A cook, a pair of former part-time foreign ministers/full-time Lotharios, a basketball player, a genius who should be able to recognise oppression when he sees it, a nun, a ahh colourful judge and of course…. Phillip Adams.
      If they receive one cent of my tax money, there’ll be trouble.
      *Assuming they’re not in it just for the T-shirts.

      Posted by lotocoti on 2007 07 23 at 08:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. Add Burma to the list of U.N. scandals

      Posted by Srekwah on 2007 07 23 at 08:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. Richard Woolcott Remarks Upon the
      Dark Side of the Australian Character:

      We must, in all candor, reflect
      That ridicule shows disrespect
      To those of us who
      Are better than you—
      It is your profoundest defect.

      Posted by lyle on 2007 07 23 at 08:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. #17

      I’ve always wondered why lefties trot out the ‘international reputation’ furphy

      Because they still resent the reputation they had growing up…

      As far as I am concerned, if countries like Saudi Arabia, Iran, North Korea and even New Zealand disagree – we are doing something right.

      Can you imagine if the police based their actions on their reputation with the criminals?

      Although it’s largely to do with Israel, this page neatly sums up why Australia shouldn’t give a shit about the UN.

      America and Australia should start our own club. We need a name…

      Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 07 23 at 08:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. #5: Thanks, Jack, I was going to ask just what legal standing this “association” has. Seems like it’s of no greater importance than the Red-Headed League or the Great American Bigfoot Research Association (incidentally, one of the latter’s press releases was issued from “Happy Camp, California”).

      Posted by paco on 2007 07 23 at 08:14 AM • permalink

 

    1. If you get in early, in 4 weeks time you can attend the premiere social event of the year, sponsored by this august association.

      Like the Muppet Show, with less humour and more clowns.

      UNITED NATIONS ASSOCIATION OF AUSTRALIA
      Invites you to attend a dinner with Dr Hans Blix
      Special Introduction: Gareth Evans, UNAA Vice-Patron & President, International Crisis Group

      Monday 27 August, 2007
      Mayfair Ballroom, Grand Hyatt Melbourne
      123 Collins Street, Melbourne
      $140 per person
      $1400 per table of 10
      Lounge suit
      6:30pm for 7:15 pm

      Sounds like an absolute laff.

      Posted by CB on 2007 07 23 at 08:19 AM • permalink

 

    1. “United Nations Association of Australia “

      Um, this would be self-criticism.  We’re doing the UN’s work for them!

      Posted by anthony_r on 2007 07 23 at 08:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. Two things:

      1)  Yes, the UN is a load of shit.

      2)  We can do better on some things and we should.  In this country, we still do not give full rights to gays and lesbians.  In fact, there are plans to remove some of those rights, although that will probably not happen before the election.  Don’t even get me started on the treatment of people who are transsexual or intersexed.

      So, let us mock the UN for the merriment and improve our country because that is what distinguishes us from most of the UN members states.

      Posted by ellen on 2007 07 23 at 08:32 AM • permalink

 

    1. Richard Woolcott Carries
      the Weight of World Opinion:

      Allow me, herewith, to expand
      My UN-endorsed reprimand:
      Your betters insist
      You hereby desist
      From laughter they don’t understand.

      Posted by lyle on 2007 07 23 at 08:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. What? Australia is hurting the feelings of terrorists, gaiasts, and leftists everywhere?  Good job! Make sure that when engaging in active feeling hurting to use a good solid object with a padded grip, because you don’t want any blisters or sprains. Safety first.

      And in north Florida, we have experienced what may have been a record low temperature for July, the height of summer. Obviously some people were not using their gas-fired grills last night. And you know who you are. Al Gore apparently really has it in for the Canadians and wants to encase them in glaciers, and the only thing that will save them is the judicious application of fossil fuel and CO2. Looks like Al Gore isn’t the only one who would like the Canadians under ice, you CO2 slackers.

      Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 23 at 08:41 AM • permalink

 

    1. #25, ellen: Richard Woolcott is the man for you.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 08:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. #28 NO!  Read what I said.

      The mere fact that we can justifiably pour scorn and derision upon the UN is no reason to ignore our own deficiencies.

      Posted by ellen on 2007 07 23 at 08:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. #26: Excellent, Lyle! Absolutely top drawer.

      Posted by paco on 2007 07 23 at 08:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. ellen, I did read what you said. Do you think you might like to have a cup of tea, a bex and a good lie down?

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 08:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. Dear UN:
      Subject: The crap you put out about my country.

      Nuts.Suck.Mine

      End of Memo.

      NotAllThatSincerely,

      185600

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 08:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. 27 SwampWoman

      What? Australia is hurting the feelings of terrorists, gaiasts, and leftists everywhere?  Good job! Make sure that when engaging in active feeling hurting to use a good solid object with a padded grip, because you don’t want any blisters or sprains. Safety first.

       

      Yes, yes indeed. Those nasty blisters or sprains. Could screw up the playing golf, thingy.

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 07 23 at 08:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. #32 I do hope your message wasn’t too subtle for them to understand 185600. I’m concerned they’ll miss the point.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 08:54 AM • permalink

 

    1. this would be the same “man of impeccable scruples” Richard Woolcott then?

      It emerged that Richard Woolcott, former ambassador to Indonesia, had sent a telegram to Canberra two months previously, which said that it was in Australian interests to take a “pragmatic” rather than “principled” stance as Indonesia prepared to massacre tens of thousands.

      balibo5

      Posted by bailador on 2007 07 23 at 08:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. Re #32 I know, it isn’t as eloquent a reply as
      one would expect for a reply to a ‘world body’
      but hey, it fits. And I’m not a wordy person.
      Others here can come up with better, I’m sure. 🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 08:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. Why is it that us Australians are so unfair and unkind?
      Especially when so many fine nations such as Zimbabwe are trying so hard to solve the many problems of the world.

      A sustainable Development Commission headed by Zimbabwe,under Mugabe,WOW what do thy sustain?

      Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 07 23 at 08:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. #33 El Cid

      Golf clubs are primo feeling hurters, too.

      Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 23 at 09:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. The “principled” approach would be to regard Woolcott’s drivel with lofty disdain. The “pragmatic” approach is punching seven shades of shit out of the gormless dickhead.

      Posted by CB on 2007 07 23 at 09:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. #34 Ash_
      I reckon that they will form a committee to ascertain “What nuts should we be sucking?”
      And then send the crack Jordanian Paedophile Battalion in to conduct field testing.
      I hope dinner was nice?

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. #37 Dave Wane

      A sustainable Development Commission headed by Zimbabwe,under Mugabe,WOW what do thy sustain?

      I believe they are leading the way in the fight on obesity, and the ruined economy and shortened life spans is shows us the proper way to achieve CO2 reduction.

      Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 23 at 09:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. #31 Yes, you did read what you thought.

      Acutally, I’m thinking a vodka and cranberry, to contemplate how it is that people can correctly identify the moral bankruptcy of the left while apparently ignoring their own blindspots.

      Posted by ellen on 2007 07 23 at 09:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. #40 Can I head the committee? I could do with a job where I get tons of money for no work.

      Dinner was excellent. Jimmy’s wife cooked rice and stir fry. The Vietnamese sure know how to fill my stomach!

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 09:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. Whoops.  Ignore that extraneous is in #41. I was distracted by an advertisement for $3,000 for egg removal for infertile couples and telling daughter she owed me $3,000.

      Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 23 at 09:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. This is a matter of some concern. The question is: how much concern? What we need, after a process of full consultation, is some kind of committee to decide whether or not to write a letter and move things forward.

      If we can fast track our core competencies, we can find a strategic fit to leverage a value added and proactive approach to benchmarking our bottom line, and produce a result-driven game plan.

      Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 07 23 at 09:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. 38 SwampWoman

      Golf clubs are primo feeling hurters, too.

      Yes, mine mostly…:).
      Well for Christ Sakes, what took so long?

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 07 23 at 09:09 AM • permalink

 

    1. 44 Swampy

      lmao

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 07 23 at 09:11 AM • permalink

 

    1. #43 Ash_
      Um, ‘Head’ the committee is probably what you don’t want to do, unless it is via email. Think about it, it’s the UN?
      It would be “Sheik Abdul Durka Jihad, his goat, and his Malay ladyboy maid”
      You probably wouldn’t want to be ‘head’ of that particular committee.
      If you did, I would lose all respect for you. 🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #42, ellen

      I don’t believe the folks here like hissy cat fights, so I’m not going there.

      Best regards,

      Maree

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 09:14 AM • permalink

 

    1. Gasp! So, where the bloody hell are we?

      C’mon Aussie, make nice! We need to be a better kind of nation if we want to project a better kind of image.

      Only then can we attract the attention of a better kind of people for a better kind of multicultural bloody future. How hard can it be?

      Posted by splice on 2007 07 23 at 09:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. #45 Margos’
      Um, it would be a bit of overkill, wouldn’t it? Oh f*ck, it’s the UN, you are completely right. Might take several years.  🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:16 AM • permalink

 

    1. The “United Nations Association of Australia”, eh? Handing out a report card, is it? Well, as CEO of the Pedagogical Association of Conservative Oligarchs, I have completed my study of Richard Woolcott’s comments and I give him a ‘D -’ in logic, an ‘F’ in wisdom, and a ‘C’ in fashion. However, if we were grading old-man dewlaps, he’d get a ‘B+’ in that.

      Posted by paco on 2007 07 23 at 09:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. #48 Now you put it that way 185600, please remove my name from the list of candidates. I’m sure we can find other people, uh, more qualified than me. Or more interested. Or more moonbatty. Or more idiotic…

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 09:17 AM • permalink

 

    1. Australia, so the UN is pissing down your back….you must be doing something right!!

      Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 07 23 at 09:18 AM • permalink

 

    1. I saw that, El Cid! I wonder how long it will be before the weight-gifted/cellulite-enhanced sue for equal employment opportunity?

      If it were my comapny, I think they should send them over fully clothed, have them remove a piece of clothing every time they make a circuit of the lawn, and add a strip tease effect in there. It would make for lengthy lawn care, though.

      *Sigh*  I wanted to start a window washing company and send the daughter and ex-daughter-in-law in bathing suits to do the job, but noooooo.

      Posted by SwampWoman on 2007 07 23 at 09:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #52 Paco
      A ‘C’ in fashion? I put it to you that there was n’er a fedora in sight, and the head tilt was all off. That should be an ‘F’.
      I know you are busy running your clandestine international business empire, but hey, perhaps
      you need a ‘Protocol Manager?’
      Hey, I will have Wronwright wearing his Elvis suit every day, if you perhaps elected me to that elevated position? Also, the mandatory jackboots and black G-strings for the Minnionettes would be enforced, for you condsideration, of course   🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. #56 What would I get to wear 185600?

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 09:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. #43 Ash

      There is a far better candidate in our State who knows all about committees and fact finding missions, and who wouldn’t be missed by any of us. May I present –
      Steve Bracks.

      Posted by Pa Feral on 2007 07 23 at 09:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. #58 Pa
      His mouth is full at the moment, maybe in a couple of years?

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. #58 Pa Feral, you just gave me an absolutely incredible unclean feeling. Though he does have outstanding qualifications in being useless, and having committees and fact finding missions.

      With all those committees and fact finding missions, has he actually found anything out yet?

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 09:35 AM • permalink

 

    1. #56 185600: His attire was given a ‘C’ to represent his completely average fashion sense. We gave him a chance to boost his grade, but he responded with this. He’s just not a zoot suit type of guy, though; the white gym socks and earth shoes messed up the whole effect.

      Posted by paco on 2007 07 23 at 09:36 AM • permalink

 

    1. SwampWoman

      I saw that, El Cid! I wonder how long it will be before the weight-gifted/cellulite-enhanced sue for equal employment opportunity?

      Damn soon, I would say. Can see it now…The Weight-Gifted/Cellulite-Enhanced Lawn Care Service, Inc’s. Motto, “We Don’t Mow. We Matt It Down

      If it were my comapny, I think they should send them over fully clothed, have them remove a piece of clothing every time they make a circuit of the lawn, and add a strip tease effect in there. It would make for lengthy lawn care, though.

      Yea, sure wood would*.
      * ain’t that a forest somewhere?

      *Sigh* I wanted to start a window washing company and send the daughter and ex-daughter-in-law in bathing suits to do the job, but noooooo.

      KIDS! they never listen…:).

      Posted by El Cid on 2007 07 23 at 09:37 AM • permalink

 

    1. #57 Ash_
      As one of our ‘femme fatales’ (with kae, RebeccaH, Janice, MareeS, Zoe. etc), you can wear whatever you think appropriate, of course. 🙂
      What I would like to see you all wearing is pretty much irrelevant, but I would love to see some armoured bustiers?
      At least I can try to coax Dirty Harriet into a ‘highly modified’ set of body armour.. 🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:42 AM • permalink

 

    1. How much notice does the world take of Australia?

      For years, I subscribed to The Economist.  We used to get a mention about once a year – if we were lucky.

      No one cares about us, and why should they?  International magazines like that focus on two things – what the big economies are doing and what is happening in the completely fucked parts of the world.  We fit into neither, and I’m happy with that.

      Posted by mr creosote on 2007 07 23 at 09:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. #63 Do I get in trouble when I turn the heating in the house way up and then shed some clothing layers?

      I’d be happy wearing armour.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 09:46 AM • permalink

 

    1. #58: Steve Bracks, Morris Iemma, Peter Beattie, Claire Martin, Mike Rann, the one from west Aussie, the one from Tassie. Have I forgotten anyone of the ALP persuasion? All dudds soon to be joined by another. Wait for the raid on GST and superannuation.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 09:47 AM • permalink

 

    1. #65 Ash_
      Um, no, you can take off (fatwahs excluded) whatever you like, but we aware some of us are now old peole (I just turned 35, for God’s sake woman!)
      🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. And I’m a good Catholic boy, and a soldier, supposed to have principles. 🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:52 AM • permalink

 

    1. #60:

      With all those committees and fact finding missions, has he actually found anything out yet?

      Ash_ I think Bracks has found out at least one useful thing, and that’s that supremacist colonial minorities can have a lot of influence over a Labor government, given a fair chance.

      Posted by splice on 2007 07 23 at 09:53 AM • permalink

 

    1. #63: Girls, we probably should tell 185600 and the lads what we’re wearing. Make them verry scared. I had to put ugg boots on tonight because the temperature is still crisp. And a woolly dressing gown.

      Yeah, I know.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 09:55 AM • permalink

 

    1. #67 I keep telling you, 185600, 35 is not old!

      I’m a good Catholic girl. I obey all of the teachings… uh, ‘cept that one about sex and something to do with only after marriage. Oops.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 09:56 AM • permalink

 

    1. Wait just a damn minute… As an American , I demand that my nation be number 1 in received criticism from any UN sponsored group. You uppity Aussies have made me jealous.Congrats and a hearty well done !!!

      Posted by greene on 2007 07 23 at 09:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. #23 –
      UNITED NATIONS ASSOCIATION OF AUSTRALIA
      Invites you to attend a dinner
      Monday 27 August, 2007
      Mayfair Ballroom, Grand Hyatt Melbourne
      123 Collins Street, Melbourne
      $140 per person
      $1400 per table of 10

      A snip at $140 per person, but maybe I can find nine other souls and get the large table discount. Should save me about..divides 1400 by 10 using long division..wait..wait..reaches for calculator..should save me somewhere in the range of ..wait..

      Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 07 23 at 09:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. #69 You’re right Splice. He’s very, very good at using that information.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 09:58 AM • permalink

 

    1. #70 mareeS
      Oh, please don’t ruin it!  🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 09:59 AM • permalink

 

    1. #70 Not a good idea Maree. I find clothes to be uncomfortable a lot these days, so I put the heating on 25C and am sitting here in my underwear.

      Not sure that would scare them off… except for the fact I’m fat.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. You all miss the whole point of this exercise of Woolcott’s.  It’s not to accurately compare Oz’s performance against some objective standard (what good is that??), but to burnish Mr. Woolcott’s reputation amongst his peers.  And what better way to do that than to take a brickbat to the Howard/Bush oil conspiracy?

      Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 07 23 at 10:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. # 61 paaaaco! Holy crap! I nearly lost my dinner (an excellent T bone I’d prefer to hang on to, thanks).

      Posted by SandiM on 2007 07 23 at 10:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’m a good Catholic girl. I obey all of the teachings… uh, ‘cept that one about sex and something to do with only after marriage. Oops.

      There’s sex after marriage?

      Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 07 23 at 10:01 AM • permalink

 

    1. Shame!  Shame on Oz!

      Posted by bugscuffle on 2007 07 23 at 10:02 AM • permalink

 

    1. The UN should sell its Headquarters and relocate to Darfur.  Think of all the good they could do being closer to where the need is.

      At least they’d be out of the evil, greedy US.

      We can work on getting expelled from the UN later.

      Posted by MarkD on 2007 07 23 at 10:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. #71 Ash_
      You and me both, Fr Collins is gonna have a heart attack when I eventually go to confession.  🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 10:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. #79 I was rather successful at getting it beforehand, it wouldn’t be proper of me to speculate on after marriage.

      Having never got that far.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:04 AM • permalink

 

    1. President’s Letter, November 2006

      The Democrat’s victory in the US Congressional elections is the most hopeful political event relating to foreign policy in a developed country so far this century.  You could react to this statement by saying it is too strongly partisan but I make it, well aware of the risk of that criticism.  The reasons are clear.  President George W Bush has wrought immeasurable harm to global wellbeing. …  American foreign policy during the last six years has involved explicit repudiation of the most basic elements of principled international relations.  Not only have hundreds of thousands of people been killed in Iraq and immeasurable damage caused but the Muslim sixth of humankind has been forced to watch their brothers and sisters being brutalised, provoking intensified terrorism.

      So read the opening sentences of the annual letter of the President of the United Nations Association of Australia,
      John Langmore.

      I have read the letter to relieve others of the burden. It is entirely devoted to the US, and it gets worse.

      Remember 2006? Genocide in Darfur. Threatened genocide from Iran. Holocaust denial conferences. Murderous riots over a bunch of cartoons. Embassies, churches burned.  Islamist terrorist attacks across the globe as thick as flies in a folk festival latrine…

      Not worth a word in the UNAA President’s letter. It is all Bush’s fault. Helped by Howard and Blair of course.

      In a way this is apt. Lest we forget that the UN, and its local cheersquad, should be taken as seriously as a dead donkey’s fart.

      Posted by geoff on 2007 07 23 at 10:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. 185600, Just kidding.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 10:06 AM • permalink

 

    1. #76 Ash_
      You’re pregnant mate. 🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 10:07 AM • permalink

 

    1. #82 LOL. 185600, last time I went to confession, I spent 3 hours in there, Jesse went to the pub while he was waiting for me, then I spent 4 hours repenting for all my sins.

      Sad thing was, Jesse was hurrying me up, but I was actually remorseful and wanted to properly repent.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:08 AM • permalink

 

    1. #86 Pregnant… Fat… now you’re splitting hairs 🙂

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:10 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ash_
      I will never argue with a pregnant woman (or any woman for that matter) I find it better to just do what she says, I get to live with the reproductive bits intact.  🙂
      Speaking of which, I had better go to bed, because I have BEEN SUMMONED.
      And unless you have to share a bed with a woman facing down her thirtieth birthday who wants babies, you have never BEEN SUMMONED. 🙂
      Good night and God Bless all (even you Ash_, you sweet little sinner you)
      🙂

      Posted by 185600 on 2007 07 23 at 10:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #87, Ash: Confession is the thing Muslims have never got a handle on. We Cathos can do that on Saturday afternoon, be very sorry and be pure again (well, until saturday night, and be sorry and confess in the morning). Muslims have to abstain or die in order to reach a state of heavenly purity, and they can only do it once.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 10:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. Ash and 185600: The priest has heard it all before, and worse, I assure you. Don’t delay.

      Posted by paco on 2007 07 23 at 10:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #89 If you’ve been summoned I don’t see what choice you have. If you’re ready, give her babies! She’ll regret it once the morning sickness kicks in, trust me! I still get it.

      You love it that I sin!

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:24 AM • permalink

 

    1. #90 It was usually a case of mere hours for me Maree. I shouldn’t admit to that.

      #91 Paco, I always found my priest to be a truly excellent fellow, who realised that we all sin, but that if we weren’t truly sorry for our sins we would never have gone to confession.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:26 AM • permalink

 

    1. C’s and D’s?

      Australia, you’re grounded!

      Posted by mojo on 2007 07 23 at 10:44 AM • permalink

 

    1. #94 Aw man, Mojo, I have to stay in this weekend?

      Thank you

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. #93, Ash: As a Catholic, being married to a presbyterian could have been nearly as bad as I’d imagine being married to a Muslim would be. They’re absolute puritans. However, I got him early, converted him to sin and introduced him to Father Mendoza,the Spanish mountain-climbing, whitewater-rafting, motorbike-riding priest who married us and saved Mike from a future as a dried up prune. The army helped, too.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 10:49 AM • permalink

 

    1. #96 Maree, I got Jesse (or whatever his name is) when he was Greek Orthodox, and he converted without much thought at all (which should have been a sign) and we got on great. I was somewhat worried at times like when he went to the pub when I was in confessional, but I figured that was because he wasn’t comfortable with confessing his sins. I should have known better, and it’s one of those things I kick myself over every day.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:57 AM • permalink

 

    1. #97, Don’t second guess yourself with the baby, Ash. The bub is your gain, you’re the future for the little one. It’s Jesse’s loss if he doesn’t develop a conscience, but there are people like me who can lend a hand if you need it. Freely given, no returns expected.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 11:13 AM • permalink

 

    1. #97 Maree, she is by far my gain. I was just feeling rather sorry for myself, stupid as it is, knowing that Jesse has chosen to not know his baby. Combine that with my absolute HATE of asking other people for help, and you get me.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 11:22 AM • permalink

 

    1. #99, Ash, I get you loud and clear, because I’m the same. But the offer stands.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 11:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. The United Nations Association of Australia

      Does this group have any direct connection to the UN, or is it just a busybody Leftist propaganda organ?

      Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 07 23 at 11:34 AM • permalink

 

    1. Does this group have any direct connection to the UN, or is it just a busybody Leftist propaganda organ?

      It’s two hippies with a pirate copy of Adobe Acrobat.

      I’m sure we, The Right Wing Death Beast Association of Australia, could come up with an equally professional looking web page and report.

      You can convert your documents to PDF files here.

      Posted by monaro on 2007 07 23 at 12:17 PM • permalink

 

    1. #97 Ash: This is Nana speaking. Do not kick yourself over ANYTHING to do with the wrong choices we all make in life, however huge and obvious they may seem NOW. They are what they are. Wrong choices THEN. Nothing more, nothing less.

      Posted by SandiM on 2007 07 23 at 12:54 PM • permalink

 

    1. SandiM,

      You sound like my mother. Always talking about stuff-ups. Does Ash really need the Nana advice? Her choices are her own. You don’t know her, and neither do I. So how could you ever say what’s a wrong choice for her? Ash seems to be doing things OK.

      Posted by mareeS on 2007 07 23 at 01:12 PM • permalink

 

    1. #104 mareeS: It seems that you’ve misread.

      I was saying exactly what you are saying. We all stuff up.  Choices made THEN, don’t look so good NOW. No use beating ourselves up about it. That’s life.

      Where did I say that her choices were wrong?

      Posted by SandiM on 2007 07 23 at 01:47 PM • permalink

 

    1. #105: To clarify.

      Ash said she was “kicking herself everyday” that she “should have known better”.

      My point is that we can only “know better” with hindsight. Therefore, there’s no point in beating ourselves up NOW for choices made THEN (unaware of the truth).

      Posted by SandiM on 2007 07 23 at 02:10 PM • permalink

 

    1. I was rather successful at getting it beforehand, it wouldn’t be proper of me to speculate on after marriage.

      Having never got that far.

      I gotta get that airline ticket to Oz…

      Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 07 23 at 02:21 PM • permalink

 

    1. “A former ambassador to the United Nations, Richard Woolcott, says Australia’s reputation within the UN has suffered over the past few decades.”

      he makes it sound like a bad thing…

      Posted by vinny on 2007 07 23 at 05:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. #70

      I was wearing a doona.

      #79

      There’s sex after marriage?

      Post divorce.

      Posted by kae on 2007 07 23 at 06:11 PM • permalink

 

    1. If we annoy the United Nations and the Amnesty International (which we do regularly) we are doing things right.  Keep up the good work fellow Aussies.

      I didn’t see this item reported in the main pages of the Herald-Sun or The Australian.  Looks like only the ABC thought it newsworthy. Typical.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2007 07 23 at 06:56 PM • permalink

 

    1. #102 – Great site Monaro.  Thanks for the link.  I was looking for a freeware WAV to AAC converter last week and couldn’t find one.  Got one now. Modified rapture – WAV uploads even on cable are slow.

      Posted by walterplinge on 2007 07 23 at 07:06 PM • permalink

 

    1. Newsflash, organisation that appoints Zimbabwe as head of development commission criticises Australia.

      Film at 11

      Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 23 at 07:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. My wife has pretty much quit going to confession (not that I think she commits many sins) and I’m not Catholic (or particularly religious in any way.  She says she couldn’t stand the sobbing.  Crying priests are a bit disconcerting, I guess.

      Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2007 07 23 at 07:16 PM • permalink

 

    1. UN, I give you a FU.

      Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2007 07 23 at 07:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. Sandi, the chances of me continuing to kick myself over the choices I’ve made are high. I regret almost every minute I spent with Jesse, even the good stuff. The fact is, if I’d been paying proper attention and hadn’t been so idiotic, I would have suspected something was up and chased it up. That is something I’m doing only now, although I should have found out much more about him years ago. There were many small hints, but I ignored them because they were only small, however they all make perfect sense now.

      At the moment though, I seem to be dwelling on this, rather than looking forward to the future with the little one.

      Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 23 at 10:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. And to think a Richard Woolcott look-sound-appear-a-like could be our next Prime Minister.

      Surely this nation isn’t that effing stupid.

      Posted by mehaul on 2007 07 24 at 05:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. #116 mehaul: Ugh! (shivers)

      Posted by SandiM on 2007 07 24 at 06:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. “Then there’s the issue of style, there’s a tendency of Australia’s part now which partly stems from Iraq, to lecture more and listen less.”

      Yes, because every Ozzie I’ve met in every bar in every country I’ve ever been to has been such a great, quiet listener…

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 24 at 10:51 AM • permalink

 

    1. Congratulations Australia. I am hoping Canada can also receive such a compliment from teh UN.

      Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 24 at 12:26 PM • permalink

 

  1. Australia, you’re an A++ in my book…hope that helps soothe any ruffled feathers you MIGHT have over that stupid U(nnatural) N(ations) thingy.

    Ash_, as mother of another ‘accidental’ mother-to-be (& having been one myself), I can assure you that the pity pot you drown yourself in today will soon be replaced with WAY too much busy-ness & baby love to continue.

    You saw signs & did nothing but enjoy yourself & love another person. You got a lovely bambino growing. These are not bad things. It just takes what it takes to get us where we need to be, y’know?

    Lots of us might do things different if we could have a do-over. I used to be one of ‘em. Now I know it took what it took to get me where I am, & the jackass I used to be married to was one of the steps in the path.

    Posted by KC on 2007 07 24 at 05:03 PM • permalink