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The Sydney Morning Herald’s Margo Kingston, who last year declared that “the fundamentalist Zionist lobby controls politics and the media in the US and Australia�?, concludes her latest online column with a cheery:

Heil Howard.

Kingston is deeply troubled.

Posted by Tim B. on 02/22/2005 at 08:07 AM
    1. “AGAIN Howard has defied public opinion in the one area where majority public support is absolutely neccessary in a democracy – asking our troops to give their lives to defend Australia.”

      THIS is the one issue? So, on every other issue, like, say, education, health care, taxation, jobs, housing, law enforcement, she thinks the government can just steamroll the people, but people choosing of their own volition to enlist in military service require public approval to do their jobs?

      Is there any facet of a person’s life that Kingston *doesn’t* believe should be subject to outside scrutiny?

      Posted by Aaron – Freewill on 2005 02 22 at 09:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. When I was teaching a university class a few years ago, I had a student come out with that Zionism controls America bollocks.  He seemed to think that ‘the Jews’ dictated the US economy, until I asked him what religion Henry Ford was.

      Posted by Craig UK on 2005 02 22 at 09:31 AM • permalink

 

    1. Look at the bright side. She spelled Heil correctly. That’s a step forward for Margo.

      Posted by swassociates on 2005 02 22 at 10:11 AM • permalink

 

    1. It’s hard to believe a major newspaper has a columnist who’d use “Heil” when referring to anyone. Such demagoguery shows a lack of ideas and poor writing skills. Plus she’s looneytunes.

      Posted by Donnah on 2005 02 22 at 10:15 AM • permalink

 

    1. Has anyone seen Margo Kingston and Paris Hilton together?

      Posted by Mrs. Davis on 2005 02 22 at 10:20 AM • permalink

 

    1. Aaron,

      The left should be given free range because they’re “defending democracy”.

      Posted by Leigh on 2005 02 22 at 10:50 AM • permalink

 

    1. Comes there not a point where weno longer have to give every horse’s ass the benefit of being “deeply distubed” for acting like a horse’s ass?

      Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 02 22 at 11:05 AM • permalink

 

    1. How is it that she gets PAID to write crap like that?

      Posted by Easycure on 2005 02 22 at 11:14 AM • permalink

 

    1. She belongs in the same category with the nutty professor (Prof of English) who believes his teachings have failed because John Howard was re-elected.
      Early this A.M. on R.N. your ABC Critterndon interviewed an academic about casualties in Iraq. The Lancet was dusted off and wheeled out again to support the presenters theories (and his guest) that the coalition of the willing lied about the extent of Iraqi deaths and also the number of American deaths etc.Bit like the plastic turkey ….OK Andrea have I avoided making any innocent cry? Thanks for the tip.

      Posted by crash on 2005 02 22 at 11:48 AM • permalink

 

    1. Margo needs an “intervention.”

      All seriousness aside, has anyone ever seen Margo Kingston and Joe Vialls together?

      Posted by scott crawford on 2005 02 22 at 12:01 PM • permalink

 

    1. I don’t think she means anything cognitive by it.  It’s a cry of frustration.

      Incidentally, is “Heil’’ an imperative in German?  I have the feeling the thing is misheard in English.  It’s something like health or welfare being wished, but my pocket Collins is too small and old to verify this.

      Posted by rhhardin on 2005 02 22 at 01:09 PM • permalink

 

    1. If you want a picture of the future, imagine Margo Kingston complaining about a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.

      Posted by tachyonshuggy on 2005 02 22 at 02:07 PM • permalink

 

    1. Well Margo at least you can vent your frustration by pelting them with eggs when they return from their tour of duty, as was done by your ideological ancestors to the returning Aussie troops from Vietnam.
      That should make you popular amongst your left wing mates!
      And I almost forgot those Aussie helpers in Aceh. surely they are inciting those poor Jihadists to violence by their very presence and deserve the odd omelette too.

      Posted by davo on 2005 02 22 at 03:13 PM • permalink

 

    1. 11.

      It’s a noun. From my 1061-page 1965 Wildhagen:

      In salutations: “cheers or hurra for”; poetic “hail to.”

      Posted by m on 2005 02 22 at 03:16 PM • permalink

 

    1. Just in case you thought St Margo was a peacenik;

      Your comments make me wonder what your position would have been in World War II. War is war. Take the position that war is bad and that effectively means you cannot wage war outside your home country, regardless of the circumstances.

      I would also argue that your position would preclude you from waging war within the country itself. War, after all, is bad and bloody. Compromise is the answer, even if it means on bent knees.

      Margo: Rubbish. I wrote before the war that I would support an invasion with UN sanction. Nothing I wrote in the piece you’re commenting on justifies the conclusion that I am a pacifist.

      Margo isnt necessarily against the war in Iraq she is just contrarian by nature (and thats putting it mildly).

      If we hadnt gone to Iraq she would be lambasting the PM for being Howard the Coward

      Posted by rog2 on 2005 02 22 at 04:03 PM • permalink

 

    1. Heil is german for G’day

      Posted by rog2 on 2005 02 22 at 04:05 PM • permalink

 

    1. What’s Margo complaining about? Replacing troops from the Netherlands with troops from Australia does not require a 1 for 1 swap.

      Posted by bc on 2005 02 22 at 04:15 PM • permalink

 

    1. Fairfax can’t be sold quickly enough.

      Posted by ilibcc on 2005 02 22 at 04:59 PM • permalink

 

    1. Maybe she was trying to say “Hi y’all”.

      Posted by lewisinnyc on 2005 02 22 at 06:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. I left a comment on that post yesterday. Interestingly, Margot has to personally approve comments.

      Isn’t that rather hypocritical for someone who whinges about corporate media all the time?

      Posted by Tex on 2005 02 22 at 06:51 PM • permalink

 

    1. I actually think this is quite serious. The word “Heil” in this context is meant to refer to Howard being a Nazi. I am concerned that if the word is used often outside its original context, it will lose its effect as a reminder of what Nazism actually was.

      Is Howard a Nazi? Not by any stretch of the imagination, however, to continually call him and others, Nazis, only serves to diminish our sense of reality and in turn, demean the real suffering that others have experienced.

      Shame Margo, shame!

      Posted by Nic on 2005 02 22 at 07:50 PM • permalink

 

    1. Nic I totally agreed but remember these idiots used the 1000’s who’ve died in 9/11, bali, spain, beslan and others as political footballs. Do you think they really care about the millions hitler killed?

      Posted by knuckleheadwatch on 2005 02 22 at 08:14 PM • permalink

 

    1. Here’s an interesting comment by someone called Chris Masters in Margo’s blog.

      In Gerard Henderson’s article he said people like you just don’t get it. He was wrong. People like you just don’t want to get it.

      Posted by Tony.T on 2005 02 22 at 09:18 PM • permalink

 

    1. by sending extra troops

      “all we are saayyyying
      is give peace a chance”

      Posted by knuckleheadwatch on 2005 02 22 at 11:36 PM • permalink

 

    1. No Battlestar, all we are saying is “get the job finished!”

      Then peace may have a chance.

      I’m glad you quoted that respected peacenick Mr Lennon whose contribution to peace was to lay in bed. Sheesh.

      Posted by Gibbo on 2005 02 22 at 11:40 PM • permalink

 

    1. Nic,

      You’re absolutely correct. John Howard is without doubt the most vilified PM in Australian history. He has been called a lot of names through his long career and I am sure he can cope with the latest Margo outrage. The people who should feel most slighted by this type of rhetoric are the victims of real Nazism. Labels can become de-stigmatised through frequent misuse. More troubling is that these comments come from the same person who has bemoaned “the fundamentalist Zionist lobby control(ing) politics and the media in the US and Australia�?.  Now, I don’t believe for one moment that Margo is an anti-Semite (as distinct from a fool), but this type of rhetoric does provide comfort and credence to radical Islamists and the far right who wish to perpetuate the worlds oldest hatred. Since 9/11, it is also rhetoric you will find mostly from the so-called “liberal�? left.

      Posted by Adam B on 2005 02 22 at 11:42 PM • permalink

 

    1. ” ..to continually call him and others, Nazis, only serves to diminish our sense of reality and in turn, demean the real suffering that others have experienced.”

      I agree. It’s happened with other terms also like racist and fascist. They have been so overused and misused by (mainly) the Left they have lost the ability to convey much of anything. They’re becoming just ordinary epithets.

      I’m so used to seeing BushHitler, and all the other Nazi symbols and phrases used against Bush and the US, that I barely pay attention any longer.

      Posted by CJosephson on 2005 02 23 at 01:00 AM • permalink

 

    1. I’ve just thoiught of a match made in heaven- Margo and Mister Magoo- he’s blind and deaf, and she’d be Margo Magoo, a much snappier byline.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 02 23 at 01:29 AM • permalink

 

    1. good thought habib. mr magoo would HAVE to be blind and deaf to, err, umm. uhh. anyway.

      Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 02 23 at 04:30 AM • permalink

 

    1. BTW- Margo is <u>deeply disturbed</u>, not deeply troubled.

      Posted by Habib on 2005 02 23 at 09:03 AM • permalink

 

    1. There is an old law on the internet that roughly goes “The first to invoke the Nazi’s in a debate looses the debate.”

      Basically if you are in a debate and you label the otherside Nazis/Hitler/etc you have run out of logical arguments and have decended into personal abuse/dummy spits/etc.

      Posted by corvus on 2005 02 23 at 06:37 PM • permalink

 

  1. What is this internet you speak of, Corvus? It sounds familiar.

    Posted by Sortelli on 2005 02 24 at 02:06 AM • permalink