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WHY ONLY BANGLADESH?
George Monbiot calls for violent reprisals:
Every time someone dies as a result of floods in Bangladesh, an airline executive should be dragged out of his office and drowned.
Drown too many airline execs and George might find it difficult to visit Canada on his next book tour. Via Patrick J. Michaels, who has further views on green religiousity. By the way, British Airways chairman Martin Broughton points out that aviation ain’t so evil:
According to the recent Stern report, worldwide aviation produces 1.6 per cent of total greenhouse gas emissions ... If we look at UK aviation’s share of global carbon emissions, it is barely 0.1 per cent. So anyone who thinks that strangling UK aviation will solve global warming is sadly deluded.
As it happens, Monbiot is happily deluded. Fly on, skybat!
Besides, airplanes have even been used to send help to flood victims in Bangladesh. Maybe letting them die would be better, because it would reduce “global warming” in 0.000000001%?
But of course! the Moonbat barks.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 12 17 at 12:08 PM • permalinkIt’s not like they impose flying on all of us.
No, you don’t understand. The mere fact that they make flying available to the masses is enough reason to condemn them to a death by lynching.
Since there will always be environmental heretics who will offer to fly people across the globe, clearly the only solution is to outlaw air travel altogether.
A GUARDIAN POSTER COMMENTS
“As for drowning airline executives, Dave, thats called a joke, old boy.”
It would be a lot funnier if socialist whack jobs (like Moonbat) hadn’t already murdered tens of millions of people who wouldn’t cooperate with their idiotic socio-economic programs.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 12 17 at 12:30 PM • permalinkI assume he travels on a cloud of indignation fuelled by his sense of self-righteousness.
Posted by boxofmatches on 2006 12 17 at 12:52 PM • permalinkSo no one ever drowned from floods in Bangladesh prior to the invention of airplanes? I guess the Wright brothers have a lot to answer for. Of course, the Wright brothers were white male Americans (three strikes), so their lynching by Moonbat’s crowd would be an automatic anyway.
Posted by David Crawford on 2006 12 17 at 12:53 PM • permalinkEvery time someone suggests an over-the-top action against an industry, George Monbiot should be drowned.
Posted by Kim du Toit on 2006 12 17 at 02:04 PM • permalinkTo #11.
Even better, the first thing we should do when someone invents a time machine is to go back pre-1903 and line Orville and Wilbur Wright up against the wall in their little bicycle shop and execute them. “Retroactive enviro-criminal elimination.” It will be all the rage in the future. (And probably “rage” is not too strong a word, based on Mr. Monbiot’s proposal.)
P.S. On a serious note, my humorous concern for the future is turning more and more into real concern. Is there no sort of sanity test for columnists and, more importantly, voters? Does Mr. Monbiot have the right to vote in his country?
Monbiot does realize that much of Bangladesh is an alluvial plain subject to flooding? And that that would be true if mechanical flight had never been invented? I guess not.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 17 at 02:32 PM • permalinkGood God, the comment section appended to the article is, with one or two exceptions, Sycophant City, mostly along the lines of “Excellent idea as usual, Oh Great God Monbiot!” You’ll get more reason out of a circle of skyclad pagans celebrating Samhain.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 17 at 02:39 PM • permalinkYou’ll get more reason out of a circle of skyclad pagans celebrating Samhain.
Well, gee, Andrea, of course you will. The pagans at least have a comprehensible reason for celebrating Samhain.
Now I’m worried about that Time-travel thing--so some dolt could go back in time to eliminate the inventors of, say, the car, the plane, the refrigerator, plastic…
two points:
1) So far, all major terrorist attacks have been against (or used) public mass transport systems (9/11-planes, Spain-trains, UK-trains+busses). If somebody could organize terrorist attacks against private vehicles (preferably SUVs) then I feel sure that the public would start using mass transport.
2) When the US closed all commercial air traffic for 2 days after 9/11, THE WORLD WARMED UP. The reason (apparently) was that all the exhaust particles emitted were shielding the planet from sunlight....
I think the problem that most greenies (and probably most lefties) have with capitalism is that it gives people what they want. There’s no ability for someone to impose what they think you should have on you. Global warming is just the latest attempt for them to take control of your own life out of your hands and back into theirs.
Actually, “capitalism” doesn’t “give” anyone anything. Saying that a philosophy “gives” something to people is just an example of the way socialist thinking has degraded the language. It’s more accurate to say that the practice of capitalism enrages greenies because capitalists choose freedom of movement and association, and are innovative thinkers rather than herd-followers, and believe in enriching themselves rather than sinking into a mire of abject poverty in order to impress their peer group.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 17 at 04:41 PM • permalinkAlso, capitalists tend to be successful, while socialists of all stripes tend to find their high-flown ideal societies all break on the wheel of human nature sooner or later.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 12 17 at 04:41 PM • permalinkYou people need to get your facts straight before you accuse George of hypocrisy. I have it on good authority that he does his international traveling in one of these.
This “every time someone dies” thread reminded me of something that has been making the rounds of the Internet (I found it at Protein Wisdom):
Bono, the lead singer of the band U2 is famous throughout the entertainment industry for being more than just a little self-righteous.
He was playing a U2 concert in Glasgow, Scotland when he asked the audience for total quiet.
Then in the silence, he started to slowly clap his hands ... once every few seconds.
Holding the audience in total silence, he says into the microphone,
“Every time I clap my hands, a child in Africa dies.”
A voice with a broad Scottish accent, from near the front of the crowd, pierces the silence ...
... ... ... ... ... ... “Well, fukin’ stop doin’ it then!”
It’s a scientific fact that nobody in Bangladesh ever drowned in typhoon season in the 19th century.
It’s a scientific fact that the Sahara Desert was a lush expanse of prairie and farmland before the invention of the internal combustion engine.
It’s a scientific fact that no glacier in Greenland ever changed size before.
It’s all true, I tell ya!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 12 17 at 06:21 PM • permalinkFor all of you dreamers: I have proof that time travel is not possible. We all have held grudges (big and small) against somebody else. Now, what would you do if you could travel to the moment when your grudgee was being conceived? Right, I thought so. Now, doesn’t it seem strange that the human race has not become extinct?
I rest my case…
Posted by ElectronPower on 2006 12 17 at 07:28 PM • permalinkcan we lynch sir richard branson for the bushfires?- just asking
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2006 12 17 at 07:33 PM • permalinkHow to solve a problem, the leftist way, kill more people.
Posted by Torontosteve on 2006 12 17 at 07:42 PM • permalinkActually, ElectronPower, it’s more subtle than that.
Once a time machine has been invented, it exists at all times. The date of invention is irrelevant.
Meddling in the past, and therefore changing history, is inevitable, as you say. It will happen in any universe in which a time machine is invented. The meddling will continue “until"[1] no time machine is invented in the universe in question. Therefore whether or not time machines are possible, no time machine will ever be invented.
Regards,
Ric
[1] whatever that means in this context.
[with thanks to Larry Niven]The Tardis exists! It’s real!! I know, because I saw it on TV!!! So there, you time travel skeptics!
/leftie logic mode
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 17 at 08:05 PM • permalinkMonbiot consistently opposes the construction of dams in third world countries which I guess gives him the high moral ground.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 12 17 at 08:11 PM • permalinkGeorge’s frisbee must have plane envy.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 12 17 at 09:27 PM • permalink#35, #36
I’m a Niven fan, too. My favorites: The Ringworld series.Posted by ElectronPower on 2006 12 17 at 09:28 PM • permalinkNo, no, richard. You should properly say that “It’s a scientific consensus that . . . “
That way there is no way to dispute your assertion.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 12 17 at 10:32 PM • permalinkSo anyone who thinks that strangling UK aviation will solve global warming is sadly deluded.
I suspect he feels that airlines not giving him enough peanuts would be a good excuse to kill airline executives. When the airline executives are gone he’d move on to oil execs and aircraft maker execs. Then, once enough people are dead we’ll all be in paradise.
Hundreds of thousands of people have died in Bangladeshi floods. Build dikes, have & enforce building codes. I’m sure there is even more that could be done. Why haven’t they done more? Poverty? They have millions of laborers with a mortal stake in building a dike. The fact that it keeps happening is tragic.
Posted by Col. Milquetoast on 2006 12 17 at 11:06 PM • permalinkIn other environmental news
Great job Greenpeace
You guys are sure on the ball
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 12 17 at 11:43 PM • permalinkConundrum.
If these Bangladeshis drown in a flood, will that cancel the need to drown airline executives? Or will there be ‘double dipping?‘
I would be worried if there weren’t floods in Bangladesh. These are as normal as “earthquakes in Peru”
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 12 18 at 05:39 AM • permalinkDear Mr. Monbiot:
If you bother reading your own newspaper, you might find quite a few Bangladeshi who quite like aircraft… especially when all the roads and railway lines are flooded. Idiot.
Of course, I think it might be more useful to drown Guardian readers who are pissing their pants about ‘air miles’ on New Zealand olive oil while people are dying because they don’t have access to a reliable source of clean water. Just a thought…
Posted by Craig Ranapia (OtherPundit) on 2006 12 18 at 06:29 AM • permalink#51.
Time Tunnel was an old American TV show where they ran through a tunnel, rather like a jetway, to go into different times.
When I worked in Australia, we used to have to cash our paychecks, which we recieved in paper form, at Commonwealth Bank. A job which required no end of paper passing back and forth, signatures, verifications, etc. This would have been amusing if it didn’t take the entire luch hour. As foreigners, we thought it was just to do with us, but everybody seemed to carry a little book into the bank to do transactions.
There was also the matter of the music that seemed popular, or at least that we heard in public places and taxis. It just seemed 10 years old to us. Kind of like in “Muriel’s Wedding”, we seemed to hear a lot of ABBA, “American Pie” was a popular song for musicians to play in bars, etc.
Like I said, things have probably changed. OZ has produced some pretty good music over the years.
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What’s the problem with Monbiot? Airline execs only answer to the desire of millions of people who want to fly, to travel, to visit their family, etc. It’s not like they impose flying on all of us.
Besides, airplanes have even been used to send help to flood victims in Bangladesh. Maybe letting them die would be better, because it would reduce “global warming” in 0.000000001%?