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Melbourne neuroscientist Dr John Reid ponders means of rescuing the planet:

War, Pestilence, and Famine, three of the horsemen of the apocalypse, can bring about a reduction in the human population. But these kill on a scale of tens of millions, which is not enough to solve the problem of over-population. And they are most brutal in the ways they kill. Consequently, let us consider the alternative ...

The next most human way to reduce the population might be to put something in the water ...

Reid believes “the world’s most affluent populations should be targeted first”.

(Via Brendan L.)

Posted by Tim B. on 12/12/2006 at 10:48 AM
  1. So he’s going to go after Hollywood first?  Excellent idea.  Psst, Paris Hilton is wealthy too.  And George Soros.  Michael Moore has made a few bucks too.

    Posted by rbj1 on 2006 12 12 at 10:55 AM • permalink

  2. His argument is something like trying to prevent another World War I by putting the youth of each country into trenches and having them shoot at each other.

    Posted by Mike G on 2006 12 12 at 10:57 AM • permalink

  3. I can’t get the link to work properly, but the bit above tells me all that I need to know about this Malthusian Nazi. If he wants to depopulate the earth, he should remember the old saying, “charity begins at home”, and put a little something in his own water.

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 12 at 11:04 AM • permalink

  4. #2

    Mike’s said a mouthful. What disease are these ecolunatics trying to prevent that could be worse than the “cure”? Humanity?

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 12 12 at 11:06 AM • permalink

  5. Good heavens - is this bloke for real? This must be satire?

    Meat will be rationed to no more than, say, 200 grams per person per week.

    That would be one quarter pounder with cheese only per week and no other meat?

    If he IS serious I’d suggest immediate treatment before he kills off his neighbours, friends and family

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 12 12 at 11:11 AM • permalink

  6. These type of scum rarely volunteer to be first in line…  When its time to make sacrifices, others are expected to put their hands up first…

    Mr Reid aught to have no choice in the matter, after making these sorts of statements he and his kind aught to be nominated and then dispatched…  I’d do it in a heart beat, then we could ask “who else has any bright ideas???”

    We could then toss his worthless carcass somewhere, it might even provide fertiliser for something worthwhile…  And we’d be saved having to listen to this @rse…

    Posted by casanova on 2006 12 12 at 11:11 AM • permalink

  7. I don’t think the phrase “genocidal psychotic” is too harsh for this moron… Has he considered leading by example?

    Posted by Latino on 2006 12 12 at 11:22 AM • permalink

  8. Logan’s Run for academics should be starting in 3..,2…1

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 12 12 at 11:25 AM • permalink

  9. George Brandis was exactly right.  Greenism and Nazism spring are of the same seed.

    Posted by murph on 2006 12 12 at 11:38 AM • permalink

  10. Outlined against a blue, grey December sky the Four Horsemen rode again.

    In dramatic lore they are known as:famine, pestilence,destruction and death.  These are only aliasis.  Their real names are:bigotry, ignorance, totalitarianism and “science”.

    <adapted from Grantland Rice’s epic quote>

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 12 12 at 11:43 AM • permalink

  11. Meanwhile University of Texas Prof. Eric Pianka, the Texas Distinguished Scientist of 2006, advocates mass murder by virus to reduce world population by 5 billion people.

    At least the communists used to pretend to like people. Sheesh.

    Posted by Bruce Rheinstein on 2006 12 12 at 11:46 AM • permalink

  12. the world’s most affluent populations should be targeted first

    Those populations are dropping like a rock now…without ‘extra means’. 

    His agenda is obvious.

    As an admitted future mass murderer, can’t we kill him now…like in Minority Report.

    Posted by trainer on 2006 12 12 at 11:46 AM • permalink

  13. From that insane rant:

    Human beings are self-deluders. We can convince ourselves, in the face of irrefutable evidence to the contrary, that black is white and heat can flow from a cooler to a hotter body.

    No shit, Sherlock!  Including yourself, I might add.  Delusions of grandeur, at the very least.

    Doctor of neuroscience, my ass.  More like
    Dr. Josef Mengele.  I pity his patients.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 12 at 11:55 AM • permalink

  14. Ho hum, maybe he’s just discovered Toffler’s ‘Future Shock’.  Dire predictions of global famine by the ‘70’s, etc etc.  This apocalyptic dogma is the Y2K bug of the new century, nothing more.

    Posted by Olrence on 2006 12 12 at 11:56 AM • permalink

  15. We finally have gotten down to the reductio ad absurdum of the Left:  human beings are the enemy.

    Posted by Patricia on 2006 12 12 at 11:57 AM • permalink

  16. Meet the new spokesman for the Soylent Green Party!

    Posted by Paul Zrimsek on 2006 12 12 at 12:09 PM • permalink

  17. We’ve only just begun, to borrow from a song title.  Science and academic types think they may have discovered a “conservative gene”.  Just try connecting some of those dots. Miranda Divide types with the crucible of life in their hands.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 12 12 at 12:13 PM • permalink

  18. Ha, ha! Very good, Dr. Reid! You had me for a while there! But I soon realized several paragraphs in that something this outrageous and vile could only be a Swiftian satire. I suppose if the mass conception doesn’t work, we shall have to eat the babies, yes? Ha, ha, well played, sir, well played!

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 12 12 at 12:17 PM • permalink

  19. Unfortunately, maybe ultimately for billions of people, there are some rather strange people in brain science.

    Posted by ForNow on 2006 12 12 at 12:19 PM • permalink

  20. A triage approach will be necessary so that scarce medical resources go to those who can contribute most to the long-term viability of the planet.

    I say deny medical resources to telephone sanitizers. They’re completely useless.

    Posted by Brian O'Connell on 2006 12 12 at 12:25 PM • permalink

  21. I’ll be awaiting to read Dr Reid’s obit in the paper as I think he should be true to his ord and start by doing himself in as an example

    Then others could decide whether they would like to reduce their environmental footprint as well bt following the late Dr Reid

    Sick stuff - this bloke needs treatment ASAP

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 12 12 at 12:25 PM • permalink

  22. We take you to a San Francisco doctor’s office in the year 2020 where an expectant couple await the test results for their “unborn”.

    Doctor:  I’m afraid I have some bad news for you.
    Couple:  Oh!,“it” shows some evidence of a horrific disease or malady?
    Doctor:  Oh no, your child will be perfectly healthy except for….
    Couple:  What!? What!?
    Doctor:  Well…I’m afraid “it” tested positive for the….conservative gene.
    Couple:  Ughhh!  Well, I guess we have no choice then do we doctor?
    Doctor:  No,no you don’t.  I will make the arrangements.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 12 12 at 12:27 PM • permalink

  23. There is a fascinating chapter in Walker Percy’s novel, The Thanatos Syndrome, in which a priest describes why he entered the priesthood. The decision to do so came about as a result of the man’s experiences as a GI in WWII and his visit to (or perhaps liberation of, I can’t quite recall) one of the death camps. The death camp episode is tied back to a time before the war, when the man had been a youngster visiting relatives (or friends) of his father living in Germany, who were all intellectuals and scientists. The stark contrast between the light-hearted gaiety and humane refinement of these scientists before the war, and the brutal participation by these same scientists in the “final solution” during the Nazi era is, I think, illustrative of the sometimes very thin line that separates the humane from the diabolical. This is one reason why scientists should not necessarily be given a lot of credence outside their fields of expertise, and why a fine mind unguided by a loving heart is such a potentially deadly peril.

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 12 at 12:31 PM • permalink

  24. Well, obviusly it’s up to horseman #4, stylishly mounted on a sickly-grey swayback nag. Let’s hear it for - Plague!

    Posted by mojo on 2006 12 12 at 12:35 PM • permalink

  25. > When its time to make sacrifices, others are expected to put their hands up first…

    Reminds me of the scum running Hezb’Allah.  Amazing coincidence or common personality trait?

    Posted by Rob Read on 2006 12 12 at 12:40 PM • permalink


  26. #20 Brian O’Connell

    I say deny medical resources to telephone sanitizers. They’re completely useless.

    Respect your ancestors.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2006 12 12 at 12:52 PM • permalink

  27. I think he should be true to his word and start by doing himself in as an example

    oh no AussieMagpie, you see, Dr Reid will need to be there to oversee it all.  Then, once the job is done, he’ll commit his final act of selflessness and kill himself…or maybe not.

    Posted by murph on 2006 12 12 at 01:03 PM • permalink

  28. Here are the top ten groups who can contribute most to the long-term viability of the planet and are therefore deserving of medical resources:

    10. The Green Party

    9. People named Kofi

    8. Telephone sanitizers

    7. Organic farmers

    6. The Cuban medical establishment

    5. Socio-political entities that have engaged in terrorist activities

    4. Iranian Holocaust scholars

    3. The Patchouli industry

    2. Genocidal neuroscientists

    And the number one group who can contribute most to the long-term viability of the planet and is therefore deserving of medical resources:

    1. Damn Dirty Hippies!

    Posted by Brian O'Connell on 2006 12 12 at 01:14 PM • permalink

  29. Read “Rainbow Six.” It’s one of Clancy’s better works, and has a happy ending where the eco-freaks die hubristic deaths! :)

    Posted by Fatmouse on 2006 12 12 at 01:19 PM • permalink

  30. Reid believes “the world’s most affluent populations should be targeted first”.

    Let’s just look at Zimbabwe to see how well that tends to work out, shall we?

    Posted by PW on 2006 12 12 at 01:20 PM • permalink

  31. #28 murph

    Thanks for putting the “w” onto my “ord”!

    And yes Dr Reid would be in charge of the Melbourne Environmental Footprint Reduction Project and he would of necessity need to keep breathing to stop others from doing the same (breathing that is)

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 12 12 at 01:22 PM • permalink

  32. London to a brick that Reid is more affluent than most people here.

    Posted by murph on 2006 12 12 at 01:38 PM • permalink

  33. Hey, Dr. Reid!  You first!

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 12 12 at 01:43 PM • permalink

  34. I say deny medical resources to telephone sanitizers. They’re completely useless.

    Someone is wishing for a plague to wipe us out.  Keep your telephone clean.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2006 12 12 at 01:57 PM • permalink

  35. The “twelve monkeys” solution.  Great.  These “scientists” are starting to resemble Aztec priests, eagar to cut the hearts out of millions (of others) to appease their angry god who threatens to eat the world.

    Posted by DocMike on 2006 12 12 at 02:30 PM • permalink

  36. It seems to me there are too many planets.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2006 12 12 at 02:33 PM • permalink

  37. So, in order to solve the world’s population crisis, we basically eliminate the United States(SURPRISE!), representing 5% of the planet’s population and a leading contender to produce scientific solutions to some of these problems, and we leave the high-breeding,non-productive 95% remaining to, what,eat each other?

    Posted by melk on 2006 12 12 at 02:49 PM • permalink

  38. Fucking nutcase.

    Proof that a PhD in Neuroscience (or any other field for that matter) doesn’t necessarily confer wisdom.

    Posted by closeapproximation on 2006 12 12 at 02:53 PM • permalink

  39. #29

    >8. Telephone sanitizers

    Great—but when your civilization is wipped out from a disease contracted by using a dirty telephone, don’t come crying to me.

    Posted by Room 237 on 2006 12 12 at 03:08 PM • permalink

  40. #14 - No, the apocalyptic doom projections are the Y2K scare of… the last century.  The problem is, once we crossed Al Gore’s “Bridge to the 21st Century” it became obvious what a scam Y2K was.  However, for whatever reason once we passed the Grim Milestones predicted by the Paul Erlich types (always sometime in the 1970s) and it became obvious that their proponents were suffering from rectal-cranial impaction, we immediately, uh… well, we kept listening to them anyway.

    Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2006 12 12 at 03:18 PM • permalink

  41. I suggested to the ABC (contact form!) that they be more careful next time in vetting their guests.  Clearly they interviewed one of the hospital’s mental patients by mistake.

    Posted by Brett_McS on 2006 12 12 at 03:22 PM • permalink

  42. The poor are the big consumers and the fastest breeders.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 12 12 at 03:35 PM • permalink

  43. Dumb ass.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 12 12 at 03:36 PM • permalink

  44. “Meat will be rationed to no more than, say, 200 grams per person per week.”

    Sweet, pretty soon we’ll all have the IQs of north koreans.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 12 12 at 03:39 PM • permalink

  45. Gee, golly. If we kill enough people, everyone can have a PS3 and we won’t even need to make more.  And they could be free.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 12 12 at 03:43 PM • permalink

  46. The 20th Century produced such extraordinary people that helped keep this planet, from over population. Yes the Hitlers, Stalin’s, Mao’s, the Imperial Japanese, the Pol Pot’s. I could go on and on, but these are hero’s all.

    Now, someone must pick up the slack in this 21st Century…Islamists, Kim Jong Il, Hugo Chavez, you are all pretenders…try as you may, you will never equal the greatness of those mentioned before you. Who led the way?

    I say study and learn from Dr. John Reid. You can’t go wrong with him. Let us kick it up a notch, shall we? Begin with some nuclear explosions, easily done, plenty around, or have created, some vile laboratory virus or bacteria, spread with reckless abandon.

    My, what a grand old time will be had. I mean Dr. Reid is only speaking of a billion or so…Hey, thought just occured…aren’t there a billion or so, Islamics?

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 12 12 at 03:59 PM • permalink

  47. Damn…Who WILL lead the way...Apologize, drugs made me do that.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 12 12 at 04:05 PM • permalink

  48. Well that’s it. I’m taking my family to Africa before they start de-populating Australia.

    Posted by Henry boy on 2006 12 12 at 04:05 PM • permalink

  49. I think these people should have a little more faith in the free market because, ultimately, it’s just human beings running things and we’re not stupid enough to trade our way into oblivion.

    Even if there is a climate threat, I have faith that it is capitalism and not eco-mentalism that will save us.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 12 at 04:07 PM • permalink

  50. George Bush should be a hero to these guys. He is doing all he can to save the planet every day, what thanks does he get? None. That’s right. None.

    If you believe the Lancet, Bush should be environmental man of the year. Starting a war with Iran should also be of the highest priority.

    Posted by moptop on 2006 12 12 at 04:08 PM • permalink

  51. Sir Hugo was way ahead of you old chap.

    Posted by Henry boy on 2006 12 12 at 04:10 PM • permalink

  52. I hope he knows how to take PPP into account.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 12 12 at 04:24 PM • permalink

  53. Yes, have faith in the markets.  I might be willing to buy some of these non-resource consuming poor people to get me to work.

    Soylentfuel is People! It’s PEOPLE!

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 12 12 at 04:28 PM • permalink

  54. Always with the totalitarian coercion, these guys.

    You’d think utopian progressivism would have gotten a bad name after the last century.  But, then again, Leftism really IS a religious cult. 

    Thisnk I’m kidding.  You can buy ‘carbon credits’ to ‘offset’ your contribution to the planet’s demise, much the way sinners once bought indulgences from the church as a form of penance.

    Posted by cosmo on 2006 12 12 at 04:39 PM • permalink

  55. Wow, where does one begin?

    Dr John Reid:
    Communist (redistribution of wealth) - check

    Fascist(Nazis were very keen conservationists and founders of the modern environmental movement) - check

    Eugenics Supporter (supports genocide of Anglo Saxons and Asians) - check

    Misanthrope (Human beings are self-deluders) - check

    Religious Nutter (Pantheist of a sort: ‘The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.’) - check

    He’s not only a paranoid psychotic, but he is also given a serious form on the ABC. This guy needs to be exposed for the lunatic he is.

    Here is his profile.

    My God I’ve just discovered how he plans to reduce the world’s population - all his work on reducing trauma car crashes must be a furphy - he wants people to die.

    The Federal Government has given him grants in pursuit of reducing car accidents, but Nick and I know through a professional association that the man’s work in this field is flawed.

    Now we know why.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 12 12 at 04:40 PM • permalink

  56. This guy is a piece of work. And if he thinks there is some virus that he can put in the water to sterilize human beings, he isn’t much of a scientist.

    Posted by Merlin on 2006 12 12 at 04:50 PM • permalink

  57. Even as we speak Dr Reid is most likely reaching for the ‘taken out of context’ defence.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 12 12 at 04:51 PM • permalink

  58. This guy is straight out of the Science and The Swastika series that aired on pay TV a short time ago.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 12 12 at 04:55 PM • permalink

  59. So he studies the psychology of car drivers and that qualifies him to talk on the environment?

    The thing I’ve found with academics is that they think because they’re highly educated in one area, their opinion in other areas must be equally valid.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 12 12 at 05:03 PM • permalink

  60. #58: Even as we speak Dr Reid is most likely reaching for the ‘taken out of context’ defence.

    Heh. He’s out of luck then; Antony Lowenstein’s using it right now.

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 12 at 05:04 PM • permalink

  61. :”“:”:...............::”;’”:’;:”:”:::::;’

    “Pissing in Sydney’s dam” by 1.618

    For Sale $18,300 less 23% cause that’s the real level.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2006 12 12 at 05:11 PM • permalink

  62. I say again that people like this Dr. Reid dream of the idyllic, pastoral life of yesteryear (never mind that it never existed).  In this feudal utopia, most people will have magically vanished, and all that are left are worthy people like himself who will be protected from all the necessary nastiness, and who will live a life eased by the surviving servant class.

    He should move to Saudi Arabia.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 12 12 at 05:14 PM • permalink

  63. Today’s top Christmas songs are:

    “We wish you a Jihad Christmas”

    “Frosty the Burqa man”

    ” I’m dreaming of a Rama-dumb Christmas”

    Join in and enjoy the fun!

    Posted by 1.618 on 2006 12 12 at 05:24 PM • permalink

  64. Unlike some commenters here, I normally hesitate to even jokingly call for violence, but could someone please go and shoot this man, quickly? And check the pulse to make sure before you walk away. He might not even mind.

    Posted by Dminor on 2006 12 12 at 05:26 PM • permalink

  65. Why do dinosaur leftist academics treat the laughbly discredited Paul Ehrlich as if he were some sort of Messiah? The Population Bomb is NOT f-ckin’ scripture. It couldn’t have possibly turned out any more wrong than it was. Wake up, you ninnies!

    Kee-rist.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 12 12 at 05:36 PM • permalink

  66. I say deny medical resources to telephone sanitizers. They’re completely useless.

    Well, Brian, we all know how that turned out.

    =^0

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 12 12 at 05:40 PM • permalink

  67. Forget telephone sanitizers. Everyone knows the Vogons are on their way.

    Posted by Dminor on 2006 12 12 at 05:46 PM • permalink

  68. dashing through the Kush


      Jihad Bells…Jihad Bells….

    Posted by JonathanH on 2006 12 12 at 05:46 PM • permalink

  69. The eugenics movement seems to be alive and well.

    Posted by rickw on 2006 12 12 at 05:50 PM • permalink

  70. I love this blog. Where else can you get everything from the insane to the outrageous?

    Posted by mareeS on 2006 12 12 at 05:50 PM • permalink

  71. The next most human way to reduce the population might be to put something in the water ...

    Don’t they put it in the bananas and the vaccinations in the ME?

    Posted by kae on 2006 12 12 at 06:00 PM • permalink

  72. Can’t the Lancet do a study, prove that a couple billion of us died already this year, and shut these guys up?

    Posted by moptop on 2006 12 12 at 06:12 PM • permalink

  73. Woah! Last post well and truly mangled!  Try again…

    #64 Rudolph the Infidel Raindeer
      Behead Ye Merry Gentlemen….

    and the very jaunty, the very chirpy, the one and only:

      Jihad Bells

    dashing through the Kush
    in a rusty Holden ute
    Nutjobs by my side
    Semtex in the boot

    Kill the infidel
    Death to USA
    Now we’re going to rule the world
    The Mullah Omar way…

        Jihad Bells, Jihad Bells
        Jihad all the wayyyyy….
        oh what fun to rule the world
        The Mullah Omar wayyyyy…..

    Posted by JonathanH on 2006 12 12 at 06:14 PM • permalink

  74. “Good heavens - is this bloke for real? This must be satire?”

    Um, no. They’re called Malthusians, they know nothing about economic development, they’ve been around for hundreds of years, and it is one of our primary responsibilities as members of Western civilisation to keep their grasping, sweaty hands away from the levers.

    Posted by hayesy on 2006 12 12 at 06:17 PM • permalink

  75. except that utes don’t have boots

    Oops…

    Posted by JonathanH on 2006 12 12 at 06:17 PM • permalink

  76. #71: I love this blog. Where else can you get everything from the insane to the outrageous?

    You’re absolutely right, mareeS, and those are just the two categories Wronwright is in charge of!

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 12 at 06:19 PM • permalink

  77. I live in Vermont, so I have my share of run ins with moonbats.

    I tried to even get into an argument with a guy at a Green Party desk with a Bush was behind 911 banner. But after realizing how pitifully slow witted he was, I skulked away embarrassed. It gave me a new appreciation for many web commenters however.

    But anyway, to my point, one of my ‘neighbors’ had a bumper sticker which said “Thank you for not breeding.”, I want a bumper sticker that says, “No, thank you for not breeding!”

    If I ever see the guy at the store or something, I am going to shake his hand and thank him properly.

    Posted by moptop on 2006 12 12 at 06:50 PM • permalink

  78. I only drink wine.

    Posted by noir on 2006 12 12 at 06:57 PM • permalink

  79. mareeS

    Where else can you get everything from the insane to the outrageous?

    That’s a pretty good description of Teheran right about now. I prefer to think of us as ranging from the inspired to the brilliant.

    Posted by Merlin on 2006 12 12 at 06:59 PM • permalink

  80. Greenies hate people.  They get off by imagining scenarios where vast numbers of people die.

    Posted by anthony_r on 2006 12 12 at 07:00 PM • permalink

  81. #81 rebase

    Greenies hate people.  They get off by imagining scenarios where vast numbers of people die.

    I wonder if the thought ever enters their tiny little minds that it is through the achievements of the affluent West that they have survived to adulthood, long enough to entertain their genocidal fantasies.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 12 12 at 07:10 PM • permalink

  82. Jihad Bells

    That’s classic. Bravo, coach.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 12 12 at 07:12 PM • permalink

  83. Amazing. I have no doubt that Robyn Williams would describe Howard’s proposed citizenship test as ‘White Australia! Apartheid! Genocide!’  But a moonbat ‘scientist’ gets on his show proposing actual genocide, and all he gets is ‘Hmm, challenging...”

    Posted by cuckoo on 2006 12 12 at 07:14 PM • permalink

  84. But anyway, to my point, one of my ‘neighbors’ had a bumper sticker which said “Thank you for not breeding.”, I want a bumper sticker that says, “No, thank you for not breeding!”

    ...just had to repeat that.

    Posted by Synova on 2006 12 12 at 07:16 PM • permalink

  85. #74, that was inspired, coach!  Thanks for the laugh.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 12 12 at 07:18 PM • permalink

  86. It took some searching, but I finally found a picture of Dr. Reid.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2006 12 12 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  87. #87 Brilliant!

    Posted by JonathanH on 2006 12 12 at 07:26 PM • permalink

  88. And I’ll take this opportunity to repeat… those who study such things know that plague and war do *not* reduce the population in any sort of way that *sticks*.  Populations rebound from those sorts of injuries in short order, usually making up the difference in the population growth that would have occured without the injury at the very same time.  Not only are they “brutal” ways to kill people but they *don’t* reduce population.

    If Dr. Reid were paying attention *at all* he would know that.

    It truely is a religion, where truth is a matter of faith rather than evidence or data.  We *know* what reduces the population and we now observe negative fertility in places with those conditions.  Yet this supposedly smart person is seriously talking about human beings like we talk about feral cats and “spay and release” programs?

    The eugenics movement brought us horrors.  Big splashy ones like Nazi Germany and the sorts almost no one has ever heard of in America and other “good” places with “good” people.  The quiet genocides. 

    At least a war is honest.  There are no lies and no denying that you’ve killed someone.  All that distasteful brutality… wouldn’t want Dr. Reid to dirty his hands?

    Posted by Synova on 2006 12 12 at 07:35 PM • permalink

  89. Is this a satire akin to “A Modest Proposal?” If it is, Robyn Williams should pronounce it as such. Nevertheless, I may write a letter of complaint to the ABC.

    Posted by north01 on 2006 12 12 at 07:47 PM • permalink

  90. #77 paco, #80 merlin,

    insane/outrageous, inspired/brilliant, it’s all here. I’m almost (but not quite) embarassed how much I laugh at what comes up on my screen.

    You people need to come on a fishing trip with me & the husband. You’ll die laughing, get eaten by a croc or come out alive with a decent barramundi. Unfortunately, no broadband.

    Posted by mareeS on 2006 12 12 at 07:53 PM • permalink

  91. ‘The precepts of the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam represent the quintessential perversion of the human mind. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth.’

    he’s got a point about islam, but that an educated, no doubt government funded scientist should be spewing this kind of genocidal misanthropic crap is alarming.

    guess this means stalin, mao, pol pot et al were valiant eco warriors

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2006 12 12 at 07:57 PM • permalink

  92. #18
    Unfortunately, this guy looks to be serious.
    Does he get out very often?

    #20
    Telephone sanitizers came immediately to mind, too.
    Maybe we can pack this guy up with them to terraform/colonise Mars?

    Recommended treatment for this guy: circumcision - at the neck.

    Posted by egg_ on 2006 12 12 at 08:21 PM • permalink

  93. Reid believes “the world’s most affluent populations should be targeted first”.

    So, it’s to be survival of the weakest, then?

    Posted by Nicholas on 2006 12 12 at 08:53 PM • permalink

  94. Two solutions: 

    1. Make him read Mark Steyn’s latest, America Alone, and whe his head explodes, bury him.

    2. Begin building three giant Space Arks.  The A Ark to carry the people who make things work, the engineers, the physicists, the greath thinkers, etc.  The B Ark to carry folks like Dr. Reid, all activists, PETA members, bureaucrats, hairdressers, fashion designers, etc. The C Ark to carry all those who do the actual labor to manufacture goods, build roads, maintain infrastructure, etc.

    Launch the B Ark first headed into the Sun.

    Or, of course, cut this guy’s mike.

    Posted by oldfart on 2006 12 12 at 09:16 PM • permalink

  95. #89.  Any baby boomer should understand that concept quite clearly!

    Posted by mr creosote on 2006 12 12 at 09:19 PM • permalink

  96. This guy’s demand for the abolition of every competing religion gives the game away. He has his faith—deep ecology—and he intends it to be the premier organizing principle of the world. He’s a theocrat without a theos.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 12 12 at 09:23 PM • permalink

  97. Anybody got a picture of this oik?  I’m willing to bet he doesn’t look like he’s skipped too many meals to feed the poor…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 12 12 at 09:24 PM • permalink

  98. He should start with himself. Set the example.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 12 12 at 09:29 PM • permalink

  99. I am ashamed to say that a certain Canadian, Maurice Strong, inventor of the Kyoto protocol, also thinks the same way.

    Currently he is in hiding in China. He likes totalitarians…. and is loaded with dough.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 12 12 at 09:32 PM • permalink

  100. Where else can you get everything from the insane to the outrageous?
    Looking around at my fellow workers…
    best I not get started.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 12 12 at 09:39 PM • permalink

  101. Hey, I would just like to say a good word for scientists, who apply logic and experimentation to their beliefs.

    Carry on knocking “scientists”, though, who are simply using sophistry to earn money from a guillible government.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 12 12 at 09:40 PM • permalink

  102. #59 Hey, thin man, are two personas allowed on this forum? Andrea?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 12 12 at 09:48 PM • permalink

  103. #65 Dminor,
    Don’t forget the stake through the heart, the garlic stuffed in the mouth, and burial at a crossroads at midnight. 

    Satire is dead.  When you read something like this you realize that any satirical piece of writing you may produce has been outdone by some clown’s proposal produced in all seriousness.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 12 12 at 09:55 PM • permalink

  104. #103 Hi Whimpy Canadian. ‘The Thin Man Returns’ is not an individual with schizophrenia, are we?

    —Nora

    No, not at all

    —Nick

    Nick and I are husband and wife who live, work and blog together (the family that blogs together, stays together…)

    We’ve taken our name from the Dashell Hammet Thin Man detective series of novels (and films) from the 1930s.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 12 12 at 10:47 PM • permalink

  105. We’ve taken our name from the Dashell Hammet Thin Man detective series of novels (and films) from the 1930s.

    Speaking of which, I caught The Thin Man Returns on TCM not long ago. Delightful series!

    Permit me to mention that Nick and Nora run a rollicking good blog.

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 12 at 11:49 PM • permalink

  106. “Do you know where tenderness always leads?”
    “No, where?”
    “To the gas chamber.”

    from Walker Percy’s The Thanatos Syndrome

    Posted by fundagelical on 2006 12 13 at 12:22 AM • permalink

  107. They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth

    Yes. For the sake of all human life, he needs to be pulled out of the gene pool now.

    Posted by Melanie on 2006 12 13 at 12:32 AM • permalink

  108. I really, really hate these “big picture guys”.  #15 in your reductio ad absurdum of the left: otherhuman beings are the enemy.

    Reid like all of these people cannot add 2 and 2. If we grant his argument that we are currently using 125% of the planet’s resources then we are currently all dead. QED.

    Posted by allan on 2006 12 13 at 01:14 AM • permalink

  109. Not to be indelicate, but as a matter of self defense it may be prudent to “neutralize” this John Reid without delay. Or at least lock him up in your basement the rest of his life and give him a bucket of fish heads every couple of days.

    Posted by Shaky Barnes on 2006 12 13 at 01:30 AM • permalink

  110. *knock knock knock*

    a few moments later, more forcefully.

    *thump thump thump*

    Dr John Reid (tentatively) : “ummm, hellooo, who’s there?”.

    Head Goon : “Goons, ‘ired Goons”.

    Head Goon : “The boys over at Blair’s had a whip ‘round to ‘elp you out with your overpopulashun pwoblim.
    Head Goon to an associate : “Oy, ‘arry, get the bodybag outta the boot willya”.

    Posted by Mike_W on 2006 12 13 at 01:47 AM • permalink

  111. Brett_McS wrote, “I suggested to the ABC (contact form!) that they be more careful next time in vetting their guests.  Clearly they interviewed one of the hospital’s mental patients by mistake.”

    Alas, Brett, that was futile. The ABC are just other inmates of the mental hospital.

    Posted by JimC on 2006 12 13 at 03:05 AM • permalink

  112. Hired goons?

    Posted by hayesy on 2006 12 13 at 03:11 AM • permalink

  113. Yeah, I thought all our goons were volunteers.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 13 at 03:18 AM • permalink

  114. Reid would fit in well with the top echelons of the Nazi Party. This so called intellegent individual really just shows what happens when the Gaia worshippers get a hold. Victoria is riddled with them, remember Singer, Suzuki et el. I wish he and his ilk would do world population a favour, and have a chat with with Dr Nitchze. Am I being to harsh?

    Posted by BJM on 2006 12 13 at 05:41 AM • permalink

  115. “They must be abandoned and the notion of the sanctity of human life must be subjugated to the greater sanctity of all life on Earth”

    Yes. For the sake of all human life, he needs to be pulled out of the gene pool now.

    And such is the central tenet of socialism; the needs of the individual must be sacrificed to the needs of the collective. And, of course, the Party chooses what those needs are and who shall be sacrificed for them. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

    Posted by hayesy on 2006 12 13 at 07:08 AM • permalink

  116. I filed a complaint. It’s just the idea of a science show (dedicated to William of Ockham) broadcasting such dreck that upsets me. I suggested that the staff there should be ashamed of themselves.

    Posted by mark on 2006 12 13 at 07:42 AM • permalink

  117. The only problem with writing to the show is that they probably rate their guests on how much of a response they generate.

    Posted by moptop on 2006 12 13 at 10:15 AM • permalink

  118. I’ve been upset about this all day because my parents came to Australia to escape this Nazi idealogy from Austria

    It’s not at all funny for people like me whose parents lived through the horror of Nazism

    Now this Nazi is invited to speak this horrible stuff on the taxpayer funded ABC as well as write about it elsewhere!

    This man is a poisonous enemy of humanity

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 12 13 at 10:52 AM • permalink

  119. I think all he needs is some “female companionship” if you know what I mean.  It’ll clear up his acne and change his worldview.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2006 12 13 at 12:59 PM • permalink

  120. Thankfully, we are rarely subjected to pure evil, but this is as good an example as I’ve seen for a while.  It is hatred of the good because it is good—writ large; all of his most vicious attacks are against the most productive humans beings, precisely because they are productive beyond scratching out a mere existence.

    Dr. Reid is explicitly against human life.  He doesn’t want to save the earth—what for?—but wants mankind reduced to the perceptual level of existence along with the other animals.  This, from a “neuroscientist”.  I suppose that in this way he might, just might, have a chance to be considered something other than that which we rightfully scrape from the bottom of our shoes before entering human habitations.

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 12 13 at 01:23 PM • permalink

  121. #119
    So glad they escaped and we have you aussiemagpie!

    I don’t think that they hear how poisonous they sound. They should certainly be hearing from people pointing out how horrible this is.

    Posted by kae on 2006 12 13 at 05:53 PM • permalink

  122. #117
    Ockham’s may be presented by Robyn Williams of The Science Show but a lot of crackpots seem to get to that mic ... this guy’s just a bit more scary than most.
    They must have vetted him before appearing and Robyn’s comments at the end hopefully helped a bit.
    More scary now for organ donors?

    Posted by egg_ on 2006 12 13 at 08:13 PM • permalink

  123. Interesting that a neuroscientist specialising in the area of cognition proposes such a - ah - biological
    solution…

    Reminds me of a professor who lectured years ago on population control. He stated that women after menopause should have their uteruses excised because they’re useless after all.

    I was too startled to ask him if he proposed to yank out the prostates of all elderly men, including his.

    Posted by carpefraise on 2006 12 13 at 11:45 PM • permalink

  124. Oh that italics button! :(

    Posted by carpefraise on 2006 12 13 at 11:45 PM • permalink

  125. Hope it helps

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 12 14 at 12:46 AM • permalink

  126. Oh argh

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 12 14 at 12:46 AM • permalink

  127. Waitaminnit, I thought eliminationist thinking was supposed to be a bad thing.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 12 14 at 01:27 AM • permalink

  128. #120 -

    Sorry, but I am so not taking that one for the team.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 12 14 at 01:28 AM • permalink

  129. Italic elimination…...now.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 14 at 02:49 AM • permalink

  130. OK, folks, be sure to watch the font door!  Those italics love to sneak put, now that they know we like things that lean to the right.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 14 at 02:50 AM • permalink

  131. Oy, PIMF!!!  “sneak OUT”.  Kinda hard to sneak put!!!!  ;-P

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 12 14 at 02:51 AM • permalink

  132. #132: RJ, I LOVE “sneak-put”! It implies somebody with a secret agenda, quietly burrowing into an organization for the purpose of doing some dastardly deed.

    Posted by paco on 2006 12 14 at 01:07 PM • permalink

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