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WHOA! YOUTHS!

It’s those pesky youths again:

Youths wielding iron bars beat up two riot policemen patrolling a rough housing project in a southern Paris suburb, police officials said Wednesday ...

Police were called in to disperse the gang of up to 30 youths who stoned the unmarked police car as it patrolled the area, police officials said.

The police got out of their car, were encircled and attacked. Some of the youths were armed with iron bars, according to reports.

No arrests were made following the incident, police said.

“These youths fear nothing,” a police union official said on LCI television.

Well, they sure don’t fear being arrested. More on the youths here.

Posted by Tim B. on 09/21/2006 at 03:36 AM
  1. When will it be time to begin consideration of what to do with france’s nuke arsenal, ICBM systems and targeting abilities?

    If france is falling, do we wait until the islamics take full possession?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 03:45 AM • permalink

  2. “These youths fear nothing”

    Proof positive that they are unassimilated. A real Frenchmen would have surrended on the spot.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 09 21 at 04:10 AM • permalink

  3. Welcome to France North Algeria.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2006 09 21 at 04:11 AM • permalink

  4. OT and in the “stand by to standby, this may be a maybe” catagory of news flashes


    Breakthrough in Mumbai train blastsBreakthrough in Mumbai train blasts

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 04:42 AM • permalink

  5. wow, made a mess of that one, didnt I?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 04:43 AM • permalink

  6. “Youths” = “men of Middle Eastern appearance”?

    Posted by The Best Infidel on 2006 09 21 at 05:07 AM • permalink

  7. A PARIS policeman was in hospital with serious head injuries last night after youths attacked him and a colleague in an incident that renewed fears about violence and crime in France’s tinderbox suburbs.

    Must be those tinderboxes again.

    Posted by Big Jim on 2006 09 21 at 05:41 AM • permalink

  8. Some of the youths were armed with iron bars, according to reports.

    I blame the decline in manly psychology experiments and the rise of touchy-feely child rearing.

    Watson, repeating similar experiments [to Pavlov], noted the ``transference’’ aspect of such conditioning.  Having found that the violent striking of an iron bar produced fear in an infant, he noted that he could give a ``fear’’ character to some hitherto neutral object, such as a rabbit, by placing it before the child each time the iron bar was struck;  he next demonstrated that this conditioned fear of the rabbit was transferred with varying degrees of intensity to other things having similar properties (such as fur coats or cotton blankets).

    - Kenneth Burke, _Permanence and Change_ p.11

    You don’t even need transference to fix this common youthful aberration

    Posted by rhhardin on 2006 09 21 at 05:44 AM • permalink

  9. I suspect these ruffians are at fault.  Note the four hooligans in disguise, not doubt taken while attacking those poor Parisian policemen.

    Someone must stand up to them.  Before it’s too late.

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 09 21 at 05:44 AM • permalink

  10. Really, though, policemen shouldn’t be driving stoned.

    Posted by Dminor on 2006 09 21 at 06:35 AM • permalink

  11. #2. Infidel Tiger you are so lucky. I had already swallowed my coke when I read that. You were almost up for a keyboard.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 09 21 at 06:42 AM • permalink

  12. “Pesky Presby” has kind of a nice ring to it.

    Posted by tree hugging sister on 2006 09 21 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  13. Lyrical even.

    Posted by tree hugging sister on 2006 09 21 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  14. Must have run out of cars to burn, so now they’re starting in on the police.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 09 21 at 08:18 AM • permalink

  15. Send in The Pope…

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2006 09 21 at 08:21 AM • permalink

  16. The yoof, the yoof, the yoof is on fire! Then I think it goes something like:
    Burn, mother fucker, burn.
    Tough, really.
    Oh, well, never mind.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2006 09 21 at 08:33 AM • permalink

  17. Maybe some of the local parisian intelektshuls can negotiate to have paris treated as an “open city” by the conquerors, again.


    O/T, is it true that the courts down in Oz have given title of Perth over to an aboriginal tribe?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 08:44 AM • permalink

  18. Yoots in trouble!  Calling Joe Pesci!  Better idea: Maybe he could teach the gendarmes how to go all Goodfellas on the yoots.  Even in a liberal republic,  yoots gotta fear the cops, or the cops will fear the yoots.  Take your pick, Francois.

    Posted by stokes on 2006 09 21 at 09:24 AM • permalink

  19. Had 30 “youths” armed with iron bars attempted to attack two of New York’s finest, you’d likely have had a very, very different outcome.  Don’t Paris policemen carry firearms?

    And had said “youths” actually managed to injure a New York cop, the unrestrained wrath of God would have descending upon them and their neighborhood within minutes.

    Note to the French: perhaps the “youths” fear nothing because the “youths” have figured out they have nothing to fear.

    Posted by Conrad on 2006 09 21 at 09:32 AM • permalink

  20. Friggin’ Lutheran bastards.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 09 21 at 09:40 AM • permalink

  21. C’mon, Mark, let’s not tar them all with the same brush: it’s the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod that are the real troublemakers.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 09 21 at 10:01 AM • permalink

  22. I blame the proliferation of iron bars.  If they weren’t so readily available on our streets, we wouldn’t have so much iron bar violence.  It’s time for the UN to step in with a comprehensive ban on illegal iron bars.  If we just get control of the illicit trade in iron bars . . .

    [keyboard is grabbed by orderly]

    Posted by cosmo on 2006 09 21 at 10:09 AM • permalink

  23. O/T Hustle over to Crikey to see Hubcap Helen Coonan and Foppery David Marr pix at ‘71 U of Sydney Law Review….

    Posted by crash on 2006 09 21 at 10:15 AM • permalink

  24. TOTALLY Off topic - but Drudge had a post on his site saying Chavez left in haste at about 10:30 pm Wed evening EST.  What I didnt know was that there was a seat open on the UN’s security council.

    Chavez flees NY

    BTW - are there Citgo stations in Australia?

    Posted by Sharon_Ferguson on 2006 09 21 at 10:27 AM • permalink

  25. O/T Ten Canoes narrator David Gulpullil tells a Darwin court that carrying a machete “is as natural as carrying a knife and fork”.

    Posted by crash on 2006 09 21 at 10:29 AM • permalink

  26. Andy, I know you’ve fallen for that line that Lutheranism is the Religion of Peaciness™, and it’s just the Synodians who are the extremists, but the fact remains that where Lutherans go, trouble follows. And trust me when I say that Lutefiske does not integrate with anything.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 09 21 at 10:32 AM • permalink

  27. #24 Hugo looks as scared as Phatty before take off by golly…

    Posted by crash on 2006 09 21 at 10:33 AM • permalink

  28. To be fair to the youths, it was highly provocative for the policemen to drive an unmarked car through a suburb of Paris. Whose country do they think it is?

    Posted by Jim Geones on 2006 09 21 at 10:39 AM • permalink

  29. What’s a Yute?

    Posted by Room 237 on 2006 09 21 at 11:01 AM • permalink

  30. LOL #26. And remember, everyone, you can’t hug with drink with iron bars. Make rebar, not war, man.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 09 21 at 11:11 AM • permalink

  31. Maybe these yoots were simply young iron workers trying to show off their mad ski11z at stacking them bars and the stack accidentally fell over on the cops?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 11:30 AM • permalink

  32. #2 Infidel Tiger:

    Wah ha ha ha ha ha! Awesome comment! :-D

    #17 Grimmy:

    Yep, a judge has awarded in favour of aboriginal native title claimants, ruling that native title still exists over Perth, thereby creating a precedent that may allow other Australian cities to be claimed. I believe that the government is going to appeal the decision, but knowing what our judges are like down here I won’t be holding my breath for a sane decision. I’m starting to wonder who’ll get me first, the Islamofascists or the aboriginal activists.

    Posted by Mr Snuffalupagus on 2006 09 21 at 11:56 AM • permalink

  33. #17 Grimmy:

    Oh, and following on from the native title thing is

    this.

    Posted by Mr Snuffalupagus on 2006 09 21 at 11:58 AM • permalink

  34. GIVE THEM A STATE! (slogans an attention getter for the paleos, why not for the YOOTS of farce, oops, france.)

    Posted by stats on 2006 09 21 at 12:41 PM • permalink

  35. I blame the French for building their slums out of tinderboxes. Sure they’re cheap, but it only leads to trouble. A few good architects could save that country.

    Posted by Merlin on 2006 09 21 at 01:25 PM • permalink

  36. I thought the Paris police stopped patrolling the yoots’ neighborhoods long ago.

    “I will do everything to find those responsible. We will find them, one by one. Not one of them will remain unpunished,” said [Nicolas Sarkozy, the interior minister], condemning Tuesday’s late night attack as “a veritable lynching”.


    Empty words from an empty suit.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 09 21 at 01:30 PM • permalink

  37. #15 Dan Lewis, you beat me to it grrr.

    There may be some wakening. A couple of days ago, NO PASARAN had a link to an article in Le Monde about the youths and that maybbe they were presbytarians. That’s quite a step forward for the french.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 09 21 at 01:30 PM • permalink

  38. #33 You should tell these people to eff off. They’re claim is based upon the wrong-headed guilt you have been indoctrinated with by the lefties.

    We got the same issues in Canada with the aboriginals having the same social problems.

    The claimants don’t actually want the social conditions of their captives improved as this would reduce the guilt effect.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 09 21 at 01:39 PM • permalink

  39. #26 Andy, I know you’ve fallen for that line that Lutheranism is the Religion of Peaciness™, and it’s just the Synodians who are the extremists, but the fact remains that where Lutherans go, trouble follows.

    Oh, this is utter poppycock.  The Presbyterians are much more menacing that the Lutherans.  (Did you see those photos!!!) As for the Synodians, they’re a fictional group of people lifted from one of the Star Trek: Vogager episodes and, consequently, almost entirely unknown.

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 09 21 at 02:19 PM • permalink

  40. ww:
    I googled synodians. For an almost entirly unknown people, they’ve got a few entries.

    The ones y’all really should be pointing fingers at is the Baptists.

    I think I recall a sermon that I heard once while hanging out in a Baptist church one Sunday while waiting for a hangover to clear up enough to allow me to drink my way to reveille on Monday, it went something like this:

    “Now, when the Good Lord said, ‘blessed are the peace makers’, he didnt mean them lily livered, long haired, nasty hippies, nope, no Sir! He meant like the Colt Peacemaker! For, when your enemy is dead, then you got you some peace!”

    And if I remember it all correctly, the sermon ended with “Dont forget, we’z all meeting over at Bill’s house for beers immediately after we shut these doors”.

    I’ll swear there’s at least some possible truthiness in that recollection.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 02:34 PM • permalink

  41. I don’t know about that, Grimmy. Surely you know the 3 Principles of Religion:

    1) Jews don’t recognize Jesus as the Messiah

    2) Protestants don’t recognize the authority of the Bishop of Rome

    and

    3) Baptists don’t recognize each other in the liquor store.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 09 21 at 03:22 PM • permalink

  42. Jeez mark. I’m not a Baptist, how would I know all that?

    All I know about religion is:

    1) I believe what I believe
    2) Everyone else believes what they believe
    3) They can all go jump off a cliff if what they believe demand it of them without bothering me a bit, as long as they dont try to make me go with them.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 03:27 PM • permalink

  43. The Utes were an American indian tribe on the western side of the Rocky Mountains. It’s where the state of Utah got it’s name.

    Posted by mojo on 2006 09 21 at 03:31 PM • permalink

  44. C’mon, Mark, let’s not tar them all with the same brush: it’s the Lutheran Church - Missouri Synod that are the real troublemakers.

    Hey!

    Had 30 “youths” armed with iron bars attempted to attack two of New York’s finest, you’d likely have had a very, very different outcome.

    ...and I leaned back at my desk and contemplated that possible outcome for a moment or two.  Gave me a warm feeling all over.  Heck, they shoot the innocent ones 30 or 40 times…much less the yoots.

    Posted by trainer on 2006 09 21 at 03:46 PM • permalink

  45. #44m trainer:

    I remember reading some of the comments from some UK soccer hooligans when asked why they dont pull their kind of crap at games in the US.

    paraphrasing from memory, of course, “You insane? They kill people for messing ‘bout like that over there!”

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 03:55 PM • permalink

  46. #36, Kyda,

    Empty words from an empty suit.

    Yep, just what I thought when I read that quote.  It reminded me of the umpteenth time we heard, “This was a dastardly deed done by cowardly dastards and we will do everything in our power to bring them to justice”, after another outrage committed against America.  It got to the point that the rote speech angered me more than the dastardly deed.

    As for the yoots pulling this crap in NY, it reminded me of a line from Rick in Casablanca.  When the loathsome Major Strausser asked Rick how he would feel seeing the Third Reich in New York City, Rick told him that there certain areas that he would advise against invading.  HA!

    Posted by saltydog on 2006 09 21 at 04:21 PM • permalink

  47. I betcha france and NYC could make a deal with the police union. There’s lots of guys that reach their retirement with plenty of useful years left in them.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 04:34 PM • permalink

  48. The police got out of their car, were encircled and attacked. Some of the youths were armed with iron bars, according to reports.
    No arrests were made following the incident, police said.

    No arrests?

    WTF do French police do?
    Piss their pants, and fall to the ground?

    Posted by rinardman on 2006 09 21 at 05:09 PM • permalink

  49. #42 Grimmy, did you see the recent video of an Arab woman on Al Jazeera?

    She put it very well:

    Youc acan believe in stones if you wish, that is none of my business. If you throw stones at me, it becomes my business.

    You can find it on memri.org

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 09 21 at 06:43 PM • permalink

  50. Room 237 is that from 1984?

    A “Yute” is an SUV in Australia.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 09 21 at 06:47 PM • permalink

  51. #26 Mark, being of Lutheran background I would be interested to know from where this troublesome Lutheranism is coming.
      You could be right though as it was Lutheran utes who invaded Rome in the 16th century and scrawlled graffitti on the walls of the Vatican.
      I had a Holden ute [chev] once, also a Valiant ute [Chrysler].

    Posted by Paulm on 2006 09 21 at 06:52 PM • permalink

  52. “I will do everything to find those responsible. We will find them, one by one. Not one of them will remain unpunished,” said [Nicolas Sarkozy, the interior minister], condemning Tuesday’s late night attack as “a veritable lynching”.

    Yes, I understand O.J. and Baretta have been given duties with the Paris gendarmerie. There must be plenty of scared youths out there now.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 09 21 at 07:01 PM • permalink

  53. Maybe it is Baptists:

    The crowd chanted “Chavez, Chavez, the people are with you” in Spanish as he walked into the Mount Olivet Baptist Church on Lenox Ave. in Harlem.

    More at Michelle Malkin’s.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 09 21 at 07:05 PM • permalink

  54. #49 W Canadian:

    Yeah, rings a bell. I’ve always been like that myself tho. What’s mine is mine and what’s yours has nothing to do with me.

    The only time any of it becomes an issue is when some tard starts messing around with that thing I swore “to defend, against all enemy, foriegn or domestic” as part of my oath when entering uniformed service.
    I guess I’m lucky I’m not completly hidebound on matters of oaths and honor tho, otherwise I’d have had to get up off my lazy arse a long time ago and start…well, probably getting myself shot or imprisoned.

    So, lucky me is flexible enough to just randomly rant about it from time to time and call it evens.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 07:08 PM • permalink

  55. We need Paco PI to get to the bottom of what’s troubling the Youth Of Today.

    Posted by Henry boy on 2006 09 21 at 07:11 PM • permalink

  56. Did y’all see this before now?

    Pakistani Muslim Clerics: The Pope Must Go

    About 1,000 Muslim clerics and religious scholars meeting Thursday in eastern Pakistan demanded the removal of Pope Benedict XVI for making what they called “insulting remarks” against Islam.


    Benedict “should be removed from his position immediately for encouraging war and fanning hostility between various faiths” and “making insulting remarks” against Islam, said a joint statement issued by the clerics and scholars at the end of their one-day convention.


    The “pope, and all infidels, should know that no Muslim, under any circumstances, can tolerate an insult to the Prophet (Muhammad). ... If the West does not change its stance regarding Islam, it will face severe consequences,” it said.

    Ya’ know…bout time to erase about 1000 cultist ‘clerics’, plus many more goat humpers.

    News Max

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 09 21 at 07:21 PM • permalink

  57. #53, andycanuck:

    “Chavez, Chavez, the people are with you” in Spanish

    Dang! Now it’s all clear! Good catch andycanuck!

    All this time and it’s been the Spanish behind it all!

    I mean, think about it, it’s so obvious.
    Barcelona = balogna = balloons = things that pop = bombs = exploding muslims.
    It couldnt be a more direct link. It’s been staring us in the face all along.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 07:21 PM • permalink

  58. ahhh six degrees of separation why didnt anyone think of that earlier.

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 07:53 PM • permalink

  59. ahhh six degrees of separation why didnt anyone think of that earlier.

    Wow, that is totally Baconian!

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 07:56 PM • permalink

  60. nothing wrong with baconian pilosophy isnt that what the da Vinci Code was based on

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  61. I thought the da Vinci Code was based on finding V’s in randomly selected medieval paintings?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 08:06 PM • permalink

  62. I used medieval cause I cant spell the one that starts with r sounds like it has any in the middle and ends in something sounding like sonse.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 08:08 PM • permalink

  63. Renaissance - not only v’s but also upside down v’s very important to ensure that there is an oposite - devine feminine and divine masculine.

    the renaissance and medievil are 2 completely different periods but I got what you mean I would have just spelt it wrong - lol nothing wrong with a bit of bad spelling

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 08:14 PM • permalink

  64. well, ok, but there’s bad spelling and then there’s having not a single clue on what letters might want to be in a word, let alone what order they might prefer to be arranged in.

    I couldnt even get that r word started well enough to get a hit on the spell checker lol.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 08:18 PM • permalink

  65. Yes I can see where your coming from I have that problem sometimes.  At least you know your limitations.

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  66. So completely off the subject and at the risk of offending people but does anyone else find it strange that that certain group of Aborigines (I say certain group because there was another guy from Aracun saying how great Peaty was) are complaining that the QLD State Government has decided not to have a minister for aboriginal affairs?  I thought they were hell bent on being treated equally but any time anyone moves to put them all into the generally pool of the population they get all up in arms about it

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 08:23 PM • permalink

  67. Umm..me being a sort of foriegn devil to y’all and all that, I should probably butt out and mind my own bees wax on y’alls domestic issues…

    but that just wouldnt be me, being me.

    So, Im gonna butt in and ask y’all this..

    Have ya tried giving your indians dibs on legalized gamboling? That seems to have fixed alot of issues for us, up here, where the water spins the proper way around the toilet bowl.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 08:38 PM • permalink

  68. But you see that is my point if everyone was treated equally then no one could have any reason to complain however im sure they all still would.  I think I should be the minister for equalisation but I fear I would need a band of merry men to protect me from the assassins.

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 08:48 PM • permalink

  69. Urgently seeking merry men intent on protecting sexy young minister for equalisation.

    Job Description

    Protect Minister at all costs

    Anything else that may reasonably (or un reasonably) be required

    Personal Atributes

    Tall
    Dark
    Handsom
    Intellegent
    Must have own vehicle

    Prerequisites

    Must be single
    Must have no children

    please send all aplications to apps@theministerialprotectionagencyofthenewministerforequalisation

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 08:54 PM • permalink

  70. PS: applications will not be accepted without current photo attached

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 08:54 PM • permalink

  71. Umm.. I make the last two but mostly only because I dont match any of the first 5.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 08:58 PM • permalink

  72. Right so thats where im going wrong - it has suddenly all become clear to me my standards are way too high.  Note to self: change attitude towards men new list of attributes should read single heart beat optional.

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 09:01 PM • permalink

  73. #69, Killaette:
    for qualifications as a body guard…
    I do know
    Judo
    Jujitsu
    Ninjitsu
    Karate
    and maybe 4 or 5 other Japanese words. Does that count?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 09:02 PM • permalink

  74. Ah yes, the Spanish, beware the fifth column.

    Posted by Paulm on 2006 09 21 at 09:06 PM • permalink

  75. The government couldnt sell the ABC so the funding for my new position have fallen through.  Merry men are no longer required however I am impressed with your impeccable grasp of the Japanees language

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 09:08 PM • permalink

  76. #74, Paulm:

    Ah yes, the Spanish, beware the fifth column.

    the fifth column, isnt that up in the Pyrenees?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 09:11 PM • permalink

  77. #75, Killaette:

    I am impressed with your impeccable grasp of the Japanees language

    That’s nothing. You should see me chowing down on that raw fish stuff with those eatin sticks they use.

    I can spear the bigger chunks, center mass every time. And! I almost never splat the rice out to more than a couple hand widths from my plate.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 21 at 09:14 PM • permalink

  78. Oh you make me laugh.  Im going to sushi in 10 minutes cant wait

    Posted by Killaette on 2006 09 21 at 09:16 PM • permalink

  79. Yute swarm!

    Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 09 21 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  80. #76 Grimmy, last I heard of them they were in Madrid 1936.

    Posted by Paulm on 2006 09 21 at 10:40 PM • permalink

  81. #50 WimpyCanadian “A “Yute” is an SUV in Australia.”

    I thought American SUV was what we called 4WD?

    And what we call a Ute was what they call a pickup?

    I’m confused!

    Posted by ekb87 on 2006 09 21 at 11:10 PM • permalink

  82. Getting this back on track - I’m with Grimmy,

    effing Babtists!  Can’t trust ‘em as far as you can throw ‘em.

    Posted by Razor on 2006 09 21 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  83. #81 you are correct. A ute is a pickup. An SUV (what does that stand for, by the way?) is a 4WD.

    As for the Spanish being the fifth column, I’d have thought that we’d be up to about the 14th column by now, what with all the frogs, and the meeja and the rest of the appeasers.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 09 22 at 12:02 AM • permalink

  84. Nilk, I think SUV stands for “Sports Utility Vehicle”.  So I guess its broad enough to include both utes and 4WDs.

    Still, when I look at the old Falcon ute owned by my neighbour (similar to this one), the word “sporty” does not come to mind!  I still like them though.

    Posted by ekb87 on 2006 09 22 at 12:38 AM • permalink

  85. Heh. And here I thought the ‘S’ stood for ‘suburban’. As in Suburban Uttack Vehicle.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 09 22 at 01:49 AM • permalink

  86. A true form of the utility vehicle was produced in the States, I think they were called El Caminos, concept never really took off like it did here in Oz.
      A fifth columnist is one who lives in your society, but who would “white ant” that society at any opportunity. That Dixie Chick person is a prime example

    Posted by Paulm on 2006 09 22 at 02:24 AM • permalink

  87. mmm…interesting.

    Even the far-left in the UK seem to be waking up…

    All the more shameful then, for the Guardian, the chief ‘organ’ of invertebrate liberalism, to editorialise, magisterially about Islamic-Christian relations (18-9-06). What needs to be done is to defend free speech, without weaseling equivocation. The Guardian argued, essentially, that the sensibilities and demands of political Islam should be pandered to. Theirs is liberalism rendered helplessly unprincipled, denuded both of historical perspective and historical memory. It is without even a spark of the will to defend the liberal values it professes to hold…

    Workers’ Liberty

    Posted by pommygranate on 2006 09 22 at 03:32 AM • permalink

  88. ute (Aus, short for “utility vehicle”) = pickup/flatbed (American)
    4 wheel drive (Aus) = SUV (American)

    I know utes also have 4-wheel drive, but they’re not called 4 wheel drives.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 09 22 at 10:31 AM • permalink

  89. oops sorry, looks like that one already got sorted out.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 09 22 at 10:33 AM • permalink

  90. #51:

    Paulm, what can I say? Look at how Minnesota bursts into riots everytime someone says something negative about consubstantiation. And how all of Scandinavia was in an uproar when Al Jazeera broadcast the anti-XCV Theses cartoons. I tell you, nothing but trouble.

    On the Dixie Chick front, I hear Hugo Chavez is single again, or close enough, if Natalie needs a date.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 09 22 at 11:27 AM • permalink

  91. #36 - Empty words from an empty suit.

    Not entirely.  Sarkozy’s something of a hardass (as French pols go).  He’s the only guy they’ve got with anything resembling a spine.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 09 22 at 01:09 PM • permalink

  92. Actually, france can utilize its socialist infrastructure and simply redesignate all schools as boarding schools and lock up all school age kids between the ages of 8 and 30. Throw in some strict, old school, nuns and a few slightly pervy headmasters and you got a set up that’ll let the rest of the country sleep nights.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 22 at 01:42 PM • permalink

  93. I’ve often thought that we should all be quarantined between the ages of 13 and 21.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 09 22 at 02:32 PM • permalink

  94. Like in The Stainless Steal Rat where his kids were boarded in a school. Chained to their desks until they finished their studies. All rooms solitary confinment quality. Access to foods dependant on quality of homework and scores on tests.

    If I’d have gone to a school like that, I might even have learned this stuff about which words go in what order to make em which thing.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 22 at 02:40 PM • permalink

  95. “renaissance”?

    Cheers

    Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2006 09 22 at 03:23 PM • permalink

  96. 93. Apologies to young ladies in advance (if you’re easily offended), but looking at my thought processes, and those of my friends around the same age, my theory is that between the ages of 15-27 a girl’s brains leak out of their ears.

    It just takes a while for the gray matter to regrow.

    Man I was dumb! in my twenties especially. Best thing I ever did was turn 30, although not too sure about the 4-0 next year.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 09 22 at 06:51 PM • permalink

  97. #Mark, I am not real strong on theology but I remember the church [in aus]in the 50’s being very anti- communist. This changed in the 60’s when the baby boomer kids went off to uni and got involved in the counter culture; these people dominate the church today.

    Posted by Paulm on 2006 09 22 at 07:57 PM • permalink

  98. Those “youths” had better hope that Sarko doesn’t revive that fine old French tradition:  les jeunes aux lanternes.

    When French patience with the Muslim twits finally snaps it will look like a cross between the war in Algeria and the Paris Commune.  I’m not sure who will win, but for the moment I think the Frogs will, and there will be beaucoup dead Muslims buried in the ruins of the banlieus.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 09 22 at 11:02 PM • permalink

  99. Michael, that might very well become true.  But I tend to think that The Dissident Frogman had it correct when he showed a picture of the tool the French will be using to accomodate the Muslims in the future.  It was a tube of petroleum jelly.

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 09 23 at 04:19 AM • permalink

  100. #96
    Nilknarf, don’t worry about 40. I hit 42 in a couple of weeks, and I can tell you that Bill Cosby’s grandfather was right: Don’t worry about getting senile, because when you are you won’t know it.

    #97
    Paulm, it’s sad but true—and is one of the reasons I became Catholic. Better bulwarks against fads becoming doctrines.

    And #98
    Michael, I have to say I doubt it—let’s do as the lefties do and look at everything through the prism of Vietnam for a moment. The French will go in with guns a-blazing, but the moment the fighting gets ugly, they’ll expect someone to bail them out. (But who can save them from an ingrown insurrection?)

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 09 23 at 05:04 AM • permalink

  101. #99, ww:

    It was a tube of petroleum jelly.

    Ha Ha, very funny Mr ww. Yeah, like the mussies are even going to offer the frenchyfried panzyprags the option of a pre lube.

    Them boys of the araby like it rough and bloody.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 23 at 05:07 AM • permalink

  102. sorry, boys shoulda read - killer queens

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 09 23 at 05:08 AM • permalink

  103. Thanks, Mark. I’ve not had all my marbles for a few years now, so senility’s the least of my worries. 40 just sounds older than 39, if that makes sense. lol!

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 09 23 at 08:18 AM • permalink

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