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Greenpeace hates big, multi-person hauling SUVs - and they don’t much care for little cars, either:

"The Smart car isn’t even environmentally friendly,” counters Greenpeace climate expert Thomas Breuer, talking to SPIEGEL ONLINE. He points out that it can only transport a maximum of two people …

This Greenpeace group confuses and angers me.

Posted by Tim B. on 07/06/2007 at 04:52 AM
  1. 250+ mph for $8 round trip?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 06 at 05:00 AM • permalink

  2. Who put goonpeace in charge anyhow, roads, vehicles and people are part of communication, none of these and no-one gets fed, goes to work or survives.  F&^% em.

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 07 06 at 05:06 AM • permalink

  3. What we’ve got here is a failure to communicate.

    I run my SUV on high octane, super premium. This makes me happy. I like the performance and oddly enough I like the smell of that horsepower generating exhaust fumes.  So far, Greenpeice has said or done nothing to persuade me to change any of my habits.  Perhaps if they practiced what they preach I’d be more willing to listen to them.  But I doubt it. 
    What do you suppose the gas mileage is on that jumbo tanker ship the Greenweeines troll around the world in?  If they really cared they’d be sailing a wooden clipper ship.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 07 06 at 05:10 AM • permalink

  4. What the greenpeace expert doesn’t acknowledge is MOST inner city trips involve 1 occupant, so he should really complain that it is a 2 seater, and they could do better, by reducing the size!

    t00l

    Posted by peter m on 2007 07 06 at 05:13 AM • permalink

  5. So how do Greenpeace feel about motorbikes and other motorised single-person vehicles?

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 06 at 05:39 AM • permalink

  6. Riight. Greenpeace. The anti-engineers. I’ll take their word for anything that has electronics and mechanical bits. Shit, they couldn’t even keep French Commandos off their boat. Hello, soap anyone? Whoops. I just saw why that wouldn’t work…

    Still. It’s like asking how the transhumanists feel about natural death.

    Posted by brett_l on 2007 07 06 at 05:56 AM • permalink

  7. Here’s a Very Smart Car ... 180hp, 0-60 in 4.2 seconds, 1/4 mile in 12.4 seconds and tops out at 132mph.

    Titanium exhausts?

    Posted by Stevo on 2007 07 06 at 05:57 AM • permalink

  8. And as silly and ridiculous as the Smart car is, you’d think they’d love it. Although I believe it should be mandatory for all Smart car drivers to wear a red rubber nose.  Every time I see one parking, I expect to see 15-20 clowns disembark.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 07 06 at 06:04 AM • permalink

  9. #3 “I run my SUV on high octane, super premium.”

    I run mine on 98 RON humpback blubber. I get great breaching to the gallon but it pulls towards Hervey Bay.

    Posted by fidens on 2007 07 06 at 06:10 AM • permalink

  10. This sounds like a discussion best to be held on Al Gores private jet from LA to Melb.

    Just how can us plebs waste so much fuel on our needless travel? It is not like we need to attend important events like the opening day at a movie or other serious concerts or stuff is it?

    Posted by curious george on 2007 07 06 at 06:15 AM • permalink

  11. The greenpeace loonies and their allies have taken control here in the N.T.

    The Martin Labor Government recently continued with its orgy of regulation by resticting the previously open speed limit on N.T. highways to 130 kmh.This obviously angered Territorians who are used to driving safely at high speed.

    Road safety.....reducing the road toll was the stated reason for yet more rules. But.......... you guessed it, the road toll has actually increased since these limits were introduced.

    The latest nonsense now being mooted by the Martin Labor Government courtesy again of its southern green “advisors” is for water restrictions.There is no water shortage here, and plenty of sites for future dams, but the sheeplike call of the “greenies” and their silly mates in the Martin Labor Government is copybook southern “global warming” crap.

    You can almost guarantee that the introduction of those expensive gasoline/electric cars for the N.T.  Government fleet will be the next dumb idea to come from the over-advised(especially by southern greenies)escapees from the public service that is the Martin Labor Government.

    Posted by Dave Wane on 2007 07 06 at 06:25 AM • permalink

  12. Hi Texas Bob
    Isn’t the Smartucki, the car I linked to in #7, good enough?  In a linked update on the page, it says a turbo option is available.

    Reminds me of the enthusiast who shoe horned a new Porsche 928 into a widened VW Golf where you’re living.

    And my brother-in-law built his first Chrysler powered V8 ride-on lawn mower many years ago.  He’s a Chrysler nut.

    Many say why, a few say why not.

    Posted by Stevo on 2007 07 06 at 06:26 AM • permalink

  13. #3

    If they really cared they’d be sailing a wooden clipper ship.

    With all the available mung-bean, lentil and tofu natural gas on board they wouldn’t have to worry about being becalmed.

    Posted by kae on 2007 07 06 at 06:27 AM • permalink

  14. #9 Hervey Bay for the furriners.

    (Why in blazes would anyone want to watch a whale?)
    (Like the rip-off penguin parade at Philip Island!)

    Posted by kae on 2007 07 06 at 06:31 AM • permalink

  15. But how can I pull my boat with a Smart Car?

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 07 06 at 06:35 AM • permalink

  16. Steveo, I say I want to see Godzilla kick that thing like a football. Goal!

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 07 06 at 06:45 AM • permalink

  17. He’d stub his toe on this one.

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 07 06 at 06:52 AM • permalink

  18. #12 Hi Stevo!
    I suppose the Smartuki (is that pronounced Smar - tuki?) is a good idea. Once you crash that thing, no need to send it to the crusher. So there is a cost savings right there. It’s also good for those who like going really fast while looking stupid.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 07 06 at 06:55 AM • permalink

  19. With a hat tip to Greens senator Kerry Nettle’s Catholic-baiting t shirt, I’ve come up with my own slogan especially for such instances of meddling wowsers;

    Keep your greenery off my machinery.

    Posted by romeo on 2007 07 06 at 06:57 AM • permalink

  20. Texas Bob:
    Here’s a smash test of a Smart Car. The car comes out quite well, the concrete block even better, but I’m not too sure of the occupants.

    Yes, I know the feeling of being embarrassed in places.  I once owned a Honda City many moons ago, a two seater Honda.  When I drove it to the farm for the first time, everyone looked at me like I was a city wanker.  They were probably right.

    One car I had was a V8, a Kingswood (HZ model).  Where else in the world would you have a car called a Kingswood other than Australia ... none!

    Cheers’n’beers ...

    Posted by Stevo on 2007 07 06 at 07:14 AM • permalink

  21. #20 The best car I ever owned was 1955 Chevy Delray Coupe. I put in an aluminum block ZL-1 350 (from a Corvette that had been broad-sided), Muncy 4-speed, 438 rear-end gear, coil over springs and ladder bars (to accommodate the 40s), Holly 1100 cfm carb with electric fuel pump (of course!), Isky racing cam, 202 heads. I had to put a 200 pound sheet of plate steel in the truck to even get traction. The power was intoxicating and was WAAAAY too much car for a 16 year old.  It would boil the 40s straight into 4th gear.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 07 06 at 07:35 AM • permalink

  22. Texas Bob:

    Impressive.  But was it a chick magnet?

    Posted by Stevo on 2007 07 06 at 07:44 AM • permalink

  23. Seppo Kingswood.

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 07 06 at 07:47 AM • permalink

  24. The only thing that will make the Greens happy is the bloodless extermination of at least 90% of the human race, sparing only themselves, their fellow Greens, and the most beautiful humans of the opposite gender (to be kept as sex sl- er, breeding stock) of the Green making the demands.

    Posted by Tatterdemalian on 2007 07 06 at 08:04 AM • permalink

  25. dean martin ... OK ... but you never had a TV Sitcom named after your Chevy Kingswood Station Wagon, did you.  We had a TV show called Kingswood Country. named after the GMH Kingswood.  Beat that seppo!

    Posted by Stevo on 2007 07 06 at 08:05 AM • permalink

  26. #22 Not really. So I had to rely on my charming personality.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 07 06 at 08:15 AM • permalink

  27. You got me there. Oz rules!

    Posted by dean martin on 2007 07 06 at 08:19 AM • permalink

  28. The “little cars” link is screwy, Tim.

    Posted by PW on 2007 07 06 at 08:55 AM • permalink

  29. BTW, I presume nobody told the Greenpeace guy that the four-seat version of the Smart was cancelled last year because nobody was buying the damn thing.

    Posted by PW on 2007 07 06 at 09:00 AM • permalink

  30. The little cars link.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 06 at 09:09 AM • permalink

  31. This Greenpeace group confuses and angers me

    lol good stuff, reworking of a Futurama line yeah?

    Posted by Anthony_ on 2007 07 06 at 09:22 AM • permalink

  32. NSFW(site not pic) Who needs oil?

    Posted by Rob Read on 2007 07 06 at 09:38 AM • permalink

  33. I need a new Dodge Mega Cab.  The old Quad Cab’s “carbon hoof divot” is just too small.  Makes me feel - I don’t know - less of a man somehow.

    Posted by Hucbald on 2007 07 06 at 10:16 AM • permalink

  34. Why would Germans need a car that carries more than two?  They stopped having children long ago.

    Posted by Ubique on 2007 07 06 at 11:24 AM • permalink

  35. 800,000 year old SUV discovered

    Posted by Rob Read on 2007 07 06 at 11:44 AM • permalink

  36. Wouldn’t it be awesome if all those parts of the earth that are covered in cold, lifeless ice would once more be covered in lush forests? Bring on the New Interglacial, I say—everyone out to your cars, start them up now, and don’t turn them off until every last ice cube on earth has melted!

    What?

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 07 06 at 12:06 PM • permalink

  37. #36 I agree Andrea. I don’t think the greenies have thought this through. If we melt the ice, there will be more trees, and then CO2 emissions will decrease.

    I would have thought they’d want it that way.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 06 at 12:10 PM • permalink

  38. Of course, the best car in the world is built right here in Australia.

    Eat your livers out, Seppoes!

    Posted by Kaboom on 2007 07 06 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  39. And now this. Not only is the world getting warmer, it’s getting smaller.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 06 at 12:42 PM • permalink

  40. Maybe Mother Earth is on a diet.  Aren’t women usually?

    Posted by missred on 2007 07 06 at 01:12 PM • permalink

  41. Quoth our sovereign Lady Andrea:

    Bring on the New Interglacial, I say—everyone out to your cars, start them up now, and don’t turn them off until every last ice cube on earth has melted!

    But… but… but… such heat would render all of southern California a parched and abandoned desert, devoid of any vestige of human civilization!

    Umm… wait a minute…

    Posted by Mary in LA on 2007 07 06 at 01:29 PM • permalink

  42. Sounds like where I grew up…

    Posted by steveH on 2007 07 06 at 08:06 PM • permalink

  43. ...hasn’t changed a bit.

    Posted by steveH on 2007 07 06 at 08:06 PM • permalink

  44. So this guy must lover the Boeing 747, carryiong all those people efficiently adn quickly.

    Seriously, this is a word to the wise:

    There is ONE and only ONE resource that is absolutely finite and unreplacable -

    TIME
    .

    If I need to spend a megawatt to save a minute of my life, I will do so.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 06 at 08:19 PM • permalink

  45. I read on a BBC thread site:

    We must take the CO2 out of the atmosphere and, like, you know, vacumn it out of the atmosphere and kill everything.

    This idiot, such as all BBC allowed commentators appear to be, had no understanding of reality. Reality actually is that an increase n CO2 will produce an increase in biological growth.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 06 at 08:31 PM • permalink

  46. #15 Wronright - that’s why I drive a Jeep Cherokee 4 litre, 4 whhel drive. Roads are optional.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 06 at 08:42 PM • permalink

  47. #32 Rob Read, what precisely dowes NFSW stand for - no f**king s**king way?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 06 at 08:48 PM • permalink

  48. #38 Kaboom,

    Give your head a sheik. I will certainly not gbve it a single shekkkle.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 06 at 08:52 PM • permalink

  49. Wimpy, they speak English in Canada?

    Cherokee 4WD - 4 litre I-6 - preferred vehicle of terrorists, and quite incidentally the worst car I have ever owned.

    Christ Almighty, I myself was tempted to drive the bloody thing into a building, and torch it.....

    Posted by Kaboom on 2007 07 06 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  50. The Cherokee, not the building.....

    Posted by Kaboom on 2007 07 06 at 10:22 PM • permalink

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