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Mid-November snow in Victoria! Credit goes to the Al Gore Effect and Seven’s Cool the Globe project.
UPDATE. Look at all this warmth! Melbourne’s had its coldest November day since 1953. Al Gore arrived in Australia today.
UPDATE II. Gore will appear on Seven’s Sunrise tomorrow. The collision of these weather systems could sweep away the entire east coast.
(Via Jack L.)
Who left the fridge open woof woof woof, who left the fridge open......
This morning on the UK’s Sky TV was a new plan by Red Ken Livingstone to tax ‘fuel guzzling’ vehicles 25 pounds to enter London and allow ‘environmentally friendly’ cars to enter free of charge.
I thought the tax was a congestion tax not a pollution tax, isn’t the issue how many cars enter London rather than how they are powered?
Jeez.Has the pairing-up started in Vic yet, Tim?
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 11 15 at 01:35 AM • permalinkCount yourself lucky you down’t own a beach house next to Al “The Cooler” Gore. Not only does he bring miserable weather, but he likes to lean over the fence for a one way dialogue.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 15 at 01:36 AM • permalinkIf Algore lands in Antarctica, will the Ross Ice Shelf break off completely, and form a new but temporary continent?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 11 15 at 01:50 AM • permalinkLook, the Mundo Calientenistas have explained this to us already - Global Warming isn’t just about warming, OK? It also causes cooling. I’m convinced.
The only proof you denialists could reasonably offer is a ten-year span (at minimum) where daily temperatures everywhere on the globe do not deviate from average more than one degree. Absent that, you’ve got nothing.
Anything other than stasis is cause for panic and the expenditure of vast sums of money to do something. If we don’t act, bad things will happen. I’m not completely clear what they are, but I think it involve sea levels rising any day now.
Oh, and won’t somebody think of the children?!?
Al’s one of those fresh powder, ski freaks isn’t he? Jetting anywhere on the globe, chasing the Endless Winter.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 11 15 at 02:00 AM • permalinkThis is funny..... very, very funny.
As Tony Blair once said, each time I go somewhere to talk about global warming it is snowing.
Posted by Phatso Phil on 2006 11 15 at 02:01 AM • permalinkOh great: Al is coming here to train a race of solar-powered Gorebots to spread his message. Any day now I will answer the door to a creepily well-groomed young man and woman, with cold dead eyes, wanting to know if I have accepted Gore as my saviour. Then will come the invitation to join them in a Gaia-appeasing mass suicide rite, time and place TBA.
The collision of these weather systems could sweep away the entire east coast.
You’re right there Tim. In Canberra today, it’s 6.9 degrees and raining. I even saw two polar bears heading north for warmer climes.
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 11 15 at 02:07 AM • permalinkAhhhhh, its a balmy 30C here in Perth. Bring on summer and all the pretty young things in bikinis…
Gore isnt coming here is he?
< Has a quick check on google...>
OH DEAR GOD! He’s here on friday.
Lets just hope all the hydrocarbon / carbonoxide emissions from the Red Bull air race will cancel the dreaded Gore effect.
Hey Wronwright, is there any chance of you orchestrating a localised tornado or something to stop Gore from getting here?
Thanks in advance,
TWoWPosted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 15 at 02:23 AM • permalinkHail in Hobart, Tas , snow down to 400 metres. Coldest November day in yonks. I just knew Algore was somewhere nearby!
Yes, Grimmy, Christmas in summer - haven’t you ever seen a Surfing Santa?
Christmas day - prawns, cold beer, avocados, mangos, cherries & strawberries - that is, until bloody Algore showed up! The frosts have killed half the stone fruit and ruined the strawberries.
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 11 15 at 02:32 AM • permalinkHey, Wizard - how can Gore be in Perth on Friday? It would take at least 5 days for any solar powered vehicle to get there from the east coast!
What’s that you say? A private jet? A fossil fuel buring, climate destroying private jet? Surely you jest?
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 11 15 at 02:35 AM • permalink#18, SCD, I made this point to a mild lefty the other day, as opposed to the foaming at the mouth kind. She laughed, I laughed.
Then she said, “Yeah, that’s a good point.”
Score one for the VRWC.
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 15 at 03:05 AM • permalinkMy mother loves to tell the tale of the Christmas it snowed (in Orange, NSW). This Christmas
lessontale is usually told as we sit down to a beachside lunch after we had opened our pressies, which usually included some sort of surf equipment, and done a far bit of splashing in the surf. I always regarded it as Mum’s monty python moment (back in my day....), but now I am beginning to wonder if that was when AlGore was born.
Personally, the thought of a white christmas is interesting/romantic in the abstract, but not something i would want to put up with. its hard to beat a stinking hot beach holiday.Ol’ Negative Negus was on form with Mr Bland Goreblimey.
For the first ten minutes he tried to get Gore to gore Howard, but failed. Gore knows politeness anyway.Negus: "Howard uses wedge politics on everything” ..wink, wink, nudge.
The words ‘India’ and ‘China’ failed to appear at all, but “Join Kyoto!” was the mantra for Dim George some ten times.
It was even up to Gore to mention that some countries were actually planning for After Kyoto, but DG didn’t mention that Howard had already said he was all for that.This meaningless natter checked off the usual:
1. Nuclear is not OK, but might be,
2. Carbon-free coal is not OK, but might be, But There was no time to get on to the
BIGGIES -SOLAR and WIND!
Pity. Gore might have had a New Invention!A pathetic non-interview with non-solutions.
SBS then exposed a Dangerous Deligion - here, in NZ, and Worldwide that does evil, really BAD [but legal] things like:
1. Spending money on election lobbying in letterboxes.
2. Supporting both John Howard and Geo Bush.
3. Attacking the GreensNZ is trying to pass new Laws against being taken over by ---The Exclusive Brethren!
We can’t be too careful about the Christians these days…
SBS - Our Guardian against Religion in Politics.Maybe the poles have reversed and we don’t know it yet. Or else Australia moved north overnight. If so I hope you’re close enough to visit. I’ve always wanted to see snow.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 11 15 at 07:44 AM • permalinkWell, I’m bloody freezing here in Melbun. I’ve got mates living on Mt Dandenong who’ve been rained, hailed, sleeted and snowed upon today.
My heater’s been emitting carbon like you wouldn’t believe for the last 3 days and we are still cold.
It wasn’t this cold in winter!
And I’ve got the manager at work telling me that Al-Gore knows his stuff and I should go see An Inconvenient Truth.
I did mention that it was a tad hypocritical of Gore to be jetting around the world along with all the other eco-warriors, and was asked in reply how else could they get the message out?
Dude, teleconferencing. We have the technology. Use it.
I was also given the suggestion that I should take time out to watch Farenheit 9/11, as it raised some valid questions. Sure there were some inconstencies, but the questions asked were worth consideration, as those supposed to be in the know couldn’t answer them either.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 11 15 at 07:51 AM • permalinkI was also given the suggestion that I should take time out to watch Farenheit 9/11, as it raised some valid questions. Sure there were some inconstencies, but the questions asked were worth consideration, as those supposed to be in the know couldn’t answer them either.
Couldn’t be that the questions had no rational answer either.
Aw, the world just seems a bit upside-downie down under.
Another day like this in Melbourne doesn’t prove or disprove
climate changeimpending worldwide calamity one bit. It’s always been cold, wet and bloody misty in Melbourne. Well, most of the time, anyway.Except for the little problem of umbrella-inside-out howling wind before lunch.
Then, of course, there’s the dust storm on the way back to the office. A sun-shower is likely on any bright’n beautiful day. And a hailstorm is always on the horizon, ready for anybody giddy enough to go outside again.
Would you like bushfire smoke with that?
#32 Andrea
Maybe the poles have reversed and we don’t know it yet. Or else Australia moved north overnight. If so I hope you’re close enough to visit. I’ve always wanted to see snow.
No such luck I’d say but wouldn’t that be a ride! And the iceberg.. I saw it on the news this evening and there was some nutty kiwi in a red flying suit who had landed on it from a helicopter, complete with cameraman. He was rabbiting on about feeling safe but not too sure because of the creaking sounds that it apparently made as bits occasionally dropped off.
So big deal. No doubt we’ll have lots of other people ‘jumping’ on the iceberg and claim it’s garble varming whatever, BUT the kiwi said “ the last time icebergs were seen in NZ waters was 1932 (or it may have been 1934). So horror of horrors, icebergs have been on this little trip before.
Actually I thought it looked pretty as it floated along. Probably could do with a crew and an rudder. Arrh.. to hell with this crap on a cold Sydney night. I’m off to bed.
Probably the wake from Al Gore’s repeated trips back and forth between the U.S. and Australia in his solar-powered canoe is slowly pushing the land mass further south, which would account for the unseasonably cold weather. I mean, it must be something like that, right? It couldn’t possibly be that the global warming threat is like the world’s biggest Nigerian e:mail scam?
Watched the Lateline Business bit tonight - the insurance bloke from IAG was positively beaming as he explained due to GW insurance premiums would go much higher
He mentioned all the extreme weather events - such as Cyclone Larry (tell me how long have cyclones been hitting our Far North?)
I was ready for him to mention the tsunami actually as well but thankfully this was not on the list
So here slowly the full story is coming out for us poor taxpaying idiots
Higher insurance
Higher taxes to pay for something that may or may not be true (Man-made GW)
Truly I’m not looking forward to the day when we have to have a horse and cart, and live in a mud brick hut and grow some spuds and onions out the back
Also on Lateline, Tony Jones spoke with Rev Tim Costello, and both agreed the PM should meet with Bono!!! Who is a prophet like Algore
So celebs are to be believed ? They know everything?
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 11 15 at 10:13 AM • permalinkWatched a “science” show on cable that explained how Global Warming causes Global Cooling. Apparently as the global temperature rises it causes the polar caps to melt. All the resulting cooler fresh water flows into the North Atlantic disrupting the warm water currents that moderate the northern hemisphere. Once this disruption occurs it gets colder in the northern lattitudes causing a “Little Ice Age”.
The thing I don’t get is if the cooler fresh water causes the temperature to drop, won’t that cause the caps to re-freeze, thus balancing out?
Posted by nobody important on 2006 11 15 at 10:41 AM • permalinkBeing a Sydneysider, here at godzone latitude 33-point-perrrfect, I should make it clear that Australia has a notoriously volatile climate. No two cities are the same.
Melbourne*, interestingly, is located near the south eastern tip of the continent. In a single day, Melbourne can provide international visitors with an exhilarating snapshot of the full climatic range of this vast and mysterious land.
Five seasons in one day, money-back guaranteed!
* This has nothing to do with motor racing, cricket or football.
#23, Erm Bondo, by definition, everything is warmer than absolute zero.
Except for my ex....
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 15 at 11:22 AM • permalink#46 splice
Yes - so true
A few years ago, my daughter and I flew to Melbourne for a weekend shopping trip (in summer)
Parked our bags in the hotel - the weather was still hot, then we disappeared underground into Myer etc
A few hours later we emerged to rain and freezing cold weather
So then we had to go underground again and shop for warm clothes so we could survive another day there
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 11 15 at 11:28 AM • permalink#32, Maybe the poles have reversed and we don’t know it yet. If so I hope you’re close enough to visit. I’ve always wanted to see snow. - Her Greatness
Historically speaking, we’re overdue about 200,000 years for a pole flip. Also I’d love to try some of those American gun laws. (If I do ever get there, I’m counted as an NRA member :D, HUGE shout out to the SSAA).
#36, Debs, I mentioned that to my poker buddies this evening. I got three blank stares. The old boy nodded and agreed with me. (Other 4 are 3 govt employed lawyers and a bloody POME...)
#42 And the iceberg.. I saw it on the news this evening and there was some nutty kiwi in a red flying suit who had landed on it from a helicopter, complete with cameraman. He was rabbiting on about feeling safe but not too sure because of the creaking sounds that it apparently made as bits occasionally dropped off.
Dont Icebergs roll over when the top gets too warm and melts, therefore causing a mass redistribution? Gaia must like the Kiwi knob or his cameraman…
#43, The global warming threat is like the world’s biggest Nigerian e:mail scam - El Paco
And you had absolutely nothing to do with it didnt you Paco…
#44, Truly I’m not looking forward to the day when we have to have a horse and cart, and live in a mud brick hut and grow some spuds and onions out the back(.)
I’m going to get the “little man” to fix my Holley 350 to run methane, aint you never seen Mad Max 3?
..Tony Jones spoke with Rev Tim Costello, and both agreed the PM should meet with Bono!
If Uncle Peter could live in the same bedroom as the Reverend Tim for 17 years, why should we believe that the Rev wont gut Bono like a fish?
#45, WTF you doing bringing science into this discussion? This is all about
gobshiteDeligion, see #31…Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 15 at 11:56 AM • permalink#48 aussiemagpie
Nothing has really changed down south of the border. Not since the mighty Yarra was a windswept glacier.
Well, okay, there were a couple of very fast horses from Japan in the Cup…
But now that the Al Gore Effect has captured the hearts and minds of Gaia’s global children, perhaps the last hope for our stricken Southern State neighbors might a squadron of lake-drainin’ Democratic Black Ops Helicopters with Mercedes “peace” bumper stickers slapped all over the stars’n’stripes.
Wizard,
Actually, I was bringing “science” into the discussion. Another thing that bothered me about the program was that the “scientists” who were going on about the horrors of Global Warming seemed to be gleeful about the whole affair, smiling and proud of how smart they were.
Posted by nobody important on 2006 11 15 at 12:22 PM • permalink#51, Scientifically speaking, physics wise, nothing actually exists untill you try to quantify it.
Therefore if no-one caint see, hear, taste, feel or smell it, it dont exist.
I love physics, it makes the world go round (and blew the **** out of a whole lot of Japs), but a whole lot of it is Gobshite.
“Once you can accept the Universe as matter expanding into nothing that is something, wearing stripes with plaid comes easily.” - Albert Einstein
Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 11 15 at 02:05 PM • permalinkOT, but fascinating.
I’m reading and recommend Hiding in The Mirror by lawrence Krausse. He tells us what the best physics boffins are thinking -sort of… Wonderful StuffTry this paragraph, from 200 pages:
“Of course the astute reader will note that in our four dimensional universe, there are many particles that have nongravitational interactions. Well, it turns out that in ten dimensions -which as you may recall, happens to be the critical allowed number for dual strings with fermions included - gravity and supersymmetry almost completely restrain everything, but there turns out to be just enough wiggle room to have additional particles and their superpartners, which in fact can have Yang-Mills interactions.”
That is like postmodernism, but without any of the postmodernism..
Don’t you appreciate the wiggle room
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