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Imagine you’re a current affairs TV researcher desperate for someone who’ll support calls for a ban on the Australian flag at an upcoming outdoor concert. Who comes to mind? Nobody sensible, that’s for sure; most rational folk are quite fond of the flag, or are otherwise indifferent to it. Who might possibly be found who believes Australia’s flag amounts to gang colours? Who? WHO?

Return to the spotlight, Margo Kingston!

(Via Raul D.)

Posted by Tim B. on 01/22/2007 at 10:52 AM
  1. Kingston: “It would have been far better for Ken to get security to turn away likely looking lads and their flags at the gate on the grounds that their vibe was wrong.”

    Is the progressive Margo Kingston recommending - gasp! - profiling?

    Posted by Damian P. on 2007 01 22 at 11:02 AM • permalink

  2. I sort of agree with her sentiments.  Flags are to identify post offices, and embassies in foreign places to signify that there are people within with whom you can find your feet.

    The correct countermove though is to take ownership of the flag yourself.  It belongs to everybody, to snake oil salesmen as well as to everybody else.

    You just don’t get to claim exclusive ownership.

    It even belongs to flag burners, in the US our canary in the coal mine for free speech, since it annoys all the right people no end.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 01 22 at 11:08 AM • permalink

  3. When ever I hear or read the blathering of lefties when they’re ranting against expressing national pride or patriotism I get these flashing through my brain housing group:

    “War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things.

    The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse.

    The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.”

    ~John Stuart Mill - from On Liberty circa 1859

    and

    Our country! In her intercourse with foreign nations may she always be in the right; but our country, right or wrong.
    ~Stephen Decatur - Toast at a banquet

    Folk that cant love their own home are less than worthless, they are dangerous.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 01 22 at 11:11 AM • permalink

  4. Grimmy wrote “intercourse” heh, heh, heh, heh.
    (my poor Beavis & Butthead impression)

    So I guess the left really is against freedom of speech and being able to express yourself.

    Posted by rbj1 on 2007 01 22 at 11:24 AM • permalink

  5. But please feel free to wear T-shirts depicting Bush as world’s #1 terrorist. Because, you know, we vehemently protect freedom of speech (when it suits us).

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 22 at 11:51 AM • permalink

  6. We have people over here who’d like to do that, but I believe (I hope) banning the Stars and Stripes would be political suicide.

    Posted by rightwingprof on 2007 01 22 at 12:13 PM • permalink

  7. Well I hearby call for a ban on the Australian flag and colours at the Australian Open!  Those flags and colours are all over the place.  Let us be consistent!

    The best way to defeat these people is to get them out in the open and into primetime.  Let them call for that ban at a big sporting event.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 01 22 at 12:17 PM • permalink

  8. Just read Margo’s piece in Wediary

    In answer to the TT request

    Hmmm. Dunno why, but for the first time since my retirement I said yes, and they arrived just after Mum’s friend Dick turned off the water on a steaming hot day to install a new bathroom basin.

    I love to hear about little stuff liike this - it’s so relevant!

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 22 at 12:21 PM • permalink

  9. And I even HEREBY call for a ban.  That’s twice as strong.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 01 22 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  10. Re #8

    Sorry - Webdiary (PIMF and all that)

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 22 at 12:23 PM • permalink

  11. It seems like ages since the last Margo post,

    Posted by Ross on 2007 01 22 at 12:39 PM • permalink

  12. “Mum’s bush?”  I think I just figured out what her problem is.

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 01 22 at 12:47 PM • permalink

  13. Looking forward to the reports of the storming of the concert by hordes of flag-bearing “yoots”, y’all. Give ‘em hell!

    Or if that’s to “provocative”, give ‘em heck.

    Posted by mojo on 2007 01 22 at 12:48 PM • permalink

  14. It’s good to know us in England have fooled you into making sure we never see another Ozzy flag flying when you’re winning at cricket!

    Looks like John Major must’ve had something on Lord Rove.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2007 01 22 at 01:30 PM • permalink

  15. So is the insuation that the Australian flag is offensive to Presbytarians? (Mention of the Cronulla incident, etc.) I would have thought that all the dancing and frolicking and beer drinking that will go on would be much more offensive to the Presbytarians.

    I think everyone should be flying the flag as well.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 01 22 at 01:32 PM • permalink

  16. Shoot, if you must, this old gray head, but don’t dare raise the flag.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 22 at 01:33 PM • permalink

  17. Way O/T but Fox News is reporting a plane at Houston has stopped on the runway and there may be a bomb on board along with 31 passengers. Anyone know anything more?

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 01 22 at 01:43 PM • permalink

  18. Don’t worry - looks like a false alarm….

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 01 22 at 01:45 PM • permalink

  19. #18
    Same thing happened here in Toledo OH. a couple of weeks ago. Hmmmm.

    Posted by rbj1 on 2007 01 22 at 01:59 PM • permalink

  20. Yay!  Margo’s back, what fun!  Terry McStoopid Lane was starting to get pretty tattered around the edges.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 22 at 02:14 PM • permalink

  21. o/t, but Carrol Shelby’s personal Cobra just sold for $5.5 million US. Story
    Picture

    Posted by Latino on 2007 01 22 at 02:33 PM • permalink

  22. #19

    That was probably just the University of Toledo football coach boarding.  He sometimes looks like a walking nuke, sans whistle, of course!

    <lest we get the wrong idea the Yojimbo likes coach Anschutz or however you spell it>

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 01 22 at 02:36 PM • permalink

  23. I’m shocked - are you saying that the ban on the Aussie flag wasn’t accompanied by one mandating the carrying of Hezbollah’s banner?  These southpaws are slipping…

    Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 01 22 at 02:56 PM • permalink

  24. Andrew, the flag is not a symbol of national unity, and that’s partly due to your government’s actions, as well as the last ones. There’s no denying that fact. Saying it doesn’t make it so.

    I love a coherent argument.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 01 22 at 03:24 PM • permalink

  25. From one of the comments:

    Youth of every generation has always had its rallying symbols. Usually the symbol that pisses off the oldies the most and sets them apart from them. I think they have found it.

    Yep, this guy has hit the nail on the head. I can’t remember the last time old people stop complaining about how much they hated the Australian flag.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 01 22 at 03:32 PM • permalink

  26. “As for Cronulla, it is well documented that shock jock radio and some other media outlets literally promoted what became the Cronulla riots for a week before a protest at beach violence was to take place.”

    1. Riots? No. Ugly “incident”? Yes.
    2. Did the participants seem to you to resemble Alan Jones listeners? More like Triple J.
    3. Outcome? Not too many stories of ANY ethnic groups being rude to our surf lifesavers (and defying Darwin by defiantly swimming outside of the flags), which had been a standard feature of summer for about 10 years.

    Posted by der FRED on 2007 01 22 at 03:42 PM • permalink

  27. For those interested, The Big Day Out has its own forum, and many of the fans don’t like the flag ban.

    There’s also further backpedalling: “We state unequivocally that flags will not be banned at any Australian Big Day Out show in the foreseeable future.”

    This may well end up with more flags at the concert, in protest at the stupidity of the organisers.

    Posted by Evil Pundit on 2007 01 22 at 03:49 PM • permalink

  28. I’m still fuming about the Cronulla incident being termed a “race riot”.  To my mind, it was pest control, although I did have some sympath for the ambos and police who were caught up in the mess, some of whom were injured.

    I also resent not much at all being said about the three nights of real rioting that followed - where innocent bystanders and home-owners were stabbed, kicked and punched to the ground, up to 100 cars were smashed and items thrown though the windows of houses and units.  God forbid we should upset the real thugs of the world!

    The flag business bothers me a little, although perhaps it’s best not to wave the flag at BDOs. What has really outraged me, however, is Sydney being termed a “hotbed of racism”.  It’s anything but, although if this type of labelling continues, it may end up as one.  I don’t understand their agenda, but certain elements of the media and of the left are trying their best to make it so.  I suspect most of them are from Melbourne. Oops!  Racism!

    Posted by ann j on 2007 01 22 at 04:50 PM • permalink

  29. Kingston says:- “The use of the flag to make an aggressive and race based ‘us and them’ political statement began in 1997 when Pauline Hanson wrapped herself up in the flag to sell her message”.

    Wrong. The first time I saw a flag used to make a race based ‘us and them’ political statement was when Kathy Freeman wrapped herself in the Aboriginal flag at the 1996 Olympics in Atlanta. Later, somebody in the crowd handed her an Australian flag which she then also carried.

    Initially, it was an overt ‘aboriginal’ statement that must have bemused many in the crowd wondering what the hell flag she draped herself in.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 22 at 04:55 PM • permalink

  30. He was, well, a bit desperate for someone who might be game to support the sentiments of the beleagured Ken West . . .

    A bit desperate? I’ll say! Incidentally, it’s a cruel twist of fate that puts Margo in the camp where people don’t wrap themselves in the flag. In a purely aesthetic sense, she’d be somewhat less off-putting wrapped up in the equivalent of a silk burkha.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 22 at 04:56 PM • permalink

  31. Sorry guys.  This has nothing to do with the article but I thought it tooooooo funny not link to. It’s an old story, so many (or most) people may have seen it before. Al Gore

    Enjoy

    Posted by AshaB on 2007 01 22 at 05:14 PM • permalink

  32. OT but the zany kids down at Margo’s alma mata are having a discussion regarding the virtues of not eating meat so we can save the world. here.
    Harry Jackson thinks we should reduce the human population by a factor of ten, and later goes one better saying we should all check out today to save the animals.
    Where is Jimmy Jones and his grape drinks when you need him.

    Posted by tabmow on 2007 01 22 at 05:25 PM • permalink

  33. It’s funny but the TV stations have quite a lot of footage of the ‘revenge attacks’ by the Lebanese gangs following the Cronulla ‘riot’.

    They have pictures of them threatening a guy, pictures of the guy who was stabbed outside Woollooware Golf Club (stabbed so viciously the knife snapped off in his back), and the morning after pictures of all the cars that were smashed and trashed around Maroubra and the eastern ‘burbs.

    Yet they choose to show the same footage all the time - the cop wildly swinging his batten, the yobbos running down the road, the frightened Leb driver madly reversing up the street.

    Never, do they show the revenge stuff. Hmmm, interesting.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 22 at 05:25 PM • permalink

  34. Also O/T, but Jules Crittenden has a snazzy new blog site. He also got tabbed by the venerable Power Line as “Blog of the Week”. Jules is rapidly becoming a major go-to guy on Iraq, with his own insightful pieces complemented with some selective high-quality links, so go over there and check him out, and don’t forget to click on the ads. An added bonus is that there’s some great troll hunting in his comment section, as our own RebeccaH can confirm. The feisty Rebecca is frequently over there dealing out death with both hands; join in the fun!

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 22 at 05:30 PM • permalink

  35. hi paco, did you read my holiday messages? It was great holiday!


    Well an Australian flag wrapped around my head with a few gold chains and driving a Nisson might look like a gang! (driving in Lebkemba)

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 22 at 05:35 PM • permalink

  36. #28 Spot on, ann j!
    There is an ongoing media push to label the Cronulla Riots as a shameful white racist event, while completely failing to recap the behaviour which led to it, or the appalling violence and disregard for people and property shown by the leb yoof at various beachside suburbs on subsequent nights.
    The “normally sensible” Richard Glover danced both sides of the flagpole yesterday on his return to 702.
    There is a disturbing synchronicity in the media attacks on Conservatives, Christians, Monarchy, the Flag; and here we are again approaching Australia Day, which always brings out the moonbat crabs. Stand by for more “Shame on you Australians!”

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 01 22 at 05:39 PM • permalink

  37. Margo is back, baby!!!
    My present and future mirth says a big Thank You!

    Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 01 22 at 05:42 PM • permalink

  38. #36 blogstrop
    There is a disturbing synchronicity in the media attacks on Conservatives, Christians, Monarchy, the Flag
    Very perceptive and well put. Yesterday morning Peter FitzSimons on 2UE reckoned the Big Day Out ban on the Aussie flag was because of the Union Jack in the corner.

    So the anti-flag, anti-Aussie patriot, pro- republic, anti-Howard mob have a one size fits all symbol that can be mangled and twisted to suit whatever anti-Australian, anti-conservative agenda you want to push.

    Expect to see more of it now they have the scent - the Australian flag will very gradually be portrayed as an object of shame because it represents white Australia and is a simple symbol to attack because of it’s heritage.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 22 at 05:58 PM • permalink

  39. #28
    I agree Ann J. I hear Cronulla’s “Ugly Race Riots” and I am angry, it wasn’t ‘race’ based; and like you, I am more angry that there is no mention of the ugly anti-skip retaliation. Sure, what happened at Cronulla wasn’t nice, a protest was hijacked by a few, but the protest was long overdue.

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 22 at 05:58 PM • permalink

  40. Some fuckers like Margo find flags inflamitory. Personally I find dopey peabrained lefty witless tarts with blogs inflamitory, can these also be removed? Using Margos own logic she must agree and go away again.

    Posted by curious george on 2007 01 22 at 06:05 PM • permalink

  41. Meditating at mum’s bush retreat in the Gold Coast hinterland? Margo has revealed why she is such as a leftie. She can afford to be. Mum’s rich enough to own a bush retreat and kind enough to support her daughter while she pretends to be a warrior of the working class and down-trodden.

    Lefties such as Margo would have more credibility if they knew what it was like to be truly poor. Not talking about those uni days when salvation was a phone call away, I am talking about surviving without the safety net of wealth and privilege.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 01 22 at 06:26 PM • permalink

  42. mmm.  The organisers are actually self-loathing moonbats. Check out their website and a press release called BDO goes carbon neutral

    Greenhouse gasses are causing irreparable climate change and endangering the future of our civilization….We are happy to announce that the Big Day Out will be adopting a “Carbon Neutral” emissions footprint for the 2007 show.

    Organiser Ken West has also gone on record saying that he is uncomfortable with Australia Day as he views it as Invasion Day.

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 22 at 06:31 PM • permalink

  43. I don’t understand their agenda, but certain elements of the media and of the left are trying their best to make it so.

    Posted by ann j

    Revolution is their agenda.
    Look what’s happening to western Europe.
    The damned socialists/communists have virtually engineered its cultural destruction.

    The following, from a review of
    The Death of the West: How Dying Populations and Immigrant Invasions Imperil Our Country and Civilization by Patrick J. Buchanan, at The Mises Review 

    According to the great Italian Marxist Antonio Gramsci, Communism must inevitably fail so long as people retained their faith in traditional Christian values. “ ‘The civilized world has been saturated with Christianity for 2000 years,’ Gramsci wrote; and a regime grounded in Judeo-Christian beliefs and values could not be overthrown until these roots were cut” (p. 76, quoting Gramsci).

    The task for revolutionaries is then obvious: they must undermine traditional values. To do so—and here precisely lies Gramsci’s greatest originality—revolutionaries should not “seize power first and impose a cultural revolution from above” (p. 77). Rather, they must first change the culture. Through a “long march through the institutions,” Christian values would be undermined. “Then the people could be slowly educated to understand and even welcome the revolution” (p. 77, quoting Gramsci).

    All the beneficial traditional values/institutions have been attacked, including patriotism, the family, Christianity, nationalism, conservative moral values.
    All that is noble in man’s nature has been vilified and all that is profane held up as worthy of emulation.

    Islam has been carefully nurtured as a tool in this process via multiculturalism and protected by political correctness.
    Watch for the same commies to turn viciously on the Mohammedans, exposing the very real threat while fanning fear and loathing in the host communities, when the time comes for the Great People’s Revolution.

    We lost the cold war in my opinion.

    Posted by Mike_W on 2007 01 22 at 06:50 PM • permalink

  44. My 20 year old sons reaction to the “don’t bring a flag” call, was to point out that if he was going to BDO, he’d now take a blanket and a cape (both Australian Flag patterns).

    I assume that what we will see now, is more australian flags at BDO than in previous years.

    BTW, the comment on the looney left site “Flags are weapons”????

    I’m glad there are looney left sites like Margo’s. A good laugh is healthy.

    Posted by wanglese on 2007 01 22 at 07:07 PM • permalink

  45. #43. We lost the cold war in my opinion

    Sure did. Once the commies had infiltrated the universities and media they called off the jam and sat back and laughed.

    Posted by JAFA on 2007 01 22 at 07:16 PM • permalink

  46. Two’s company? ... Margo may have been coming between Mum’s bush and Dick.

    The ‘retreat’ may be mum’s only home and she may have been sufferring Margo in silence.

    A new minority: Anti-Flag Hags?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 22 at 07:23 PM • permalink

  47. 43. We won the war against the foe at that time. Communism collapsed before it could reap the fruits of its corruption of the education system. However the islamists are able to exploit the weaknesses planted by 40 years of marxist bullshit from the top down.
    They will fail, as long as people “grow up” and see that the state is not to be relied upon and individuals must be protected from nanny stateism. The problem being the wankers pushing this craphave spread it through the media, education, and many proffesional organisations so it is possible (if you choose) not to ever be exposed to a dissenting point of view. Whereas to be a ‘righty” means being constantly exposed to lefty crap.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 22 at 07:31 PM • permalink

  48. Is Margo wearing prison garb in that photo? It sure looks like it, maybe she’s acting out a fantasy, you know , hard women, prison, I won’t go on.

    All that rest and meditation hasn’t done much for her writing (or looks). Did the journo’ have to use a phone? If Margo actually was meditating, couldn’t they have contacted her transcendentally?

    A phone in a bush meditation-retreat? Won’t they think of Gaia?

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 22 at 07:55 PM • permalink

  49. Communism collapsed before it could reap the fruits of its corruption of the education system.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole

    Communist Russia didn’t die…it just transformed the struggle to a cultural war.

    Gorbachev’s speech to the Politburo in 1987, just prior to “the collapse”:

    “Gentlemen, comrades, do not be concerned about all you hear about glasnost and perestroika and democracy in the coming years. These are primarily for outward consumption. There will be no significant internal change within the Soviet Union, other than for cosmetic purposes. Our purpose is to disarm the Americans and let them fall asleep.”
    In “New Lies for Old”, Anatoliy Golitsyn,
    ‘An ex-KGB officer warns how communist deception threatens the survival of the West.’

    A review of “New Lies for Old”,
    National Review, Sept 7, 1984 by Arnold Beichman

    An excerpt, (this review was written in 1984 remember, several years before the “collapse” of the Soviet Union) :

    “Most startling is Golitsyn’s prediction that is part of the Communist bloc’s strategy for victory the following events will soon occur: a public Soviet-Chinese reconciliation; a “spectacular and impressive” liberalization in the Communist bloc with amnesty for dissidents, who would be invited to return; the freeing of Sakharov, more trade-union independence, adoption of constitutional amendments guaranteeing fulfillment of the Helsinki agreements, reduction in the role of Communist parties; a revival of controlled “democratization” on the Czech pattern for Eastern Europe, and even the return of Dubcek to power; demolition of the Berlin Wall—all of them in reality “cosmetic steps,” says Golitsyn, because they have been handed down from on high.”

    Golitsyn’s predictions came true, including the demolition of the Berlin wall.

    Posted by Mike_W on 2007 01 22 at 07:59 PM • permalink

  50. #34, why Mr. Paco, you sweet talker you!

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 22 at 08:01 PM • permalink

  51. #40 Problem is, Curious, that she know’s better than you and she is right and you are wrong.

    It’s the same paternalistic bourgois-socialist snobbery that makes me want to vomit, being a regular intellectual joe blow who thinks socialism is the worst evil to hit mankind in the past two centuries.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 01 22 at 08:05 PM • permalink

  52. BDO is going to be carbon neutral?

    In a word, bullshit. How can it be carbon neutral when those massive amps and stage lights and video screens are sucking up megawatts of electricity (from a coal-powered electricity grid), the back-up generators use nasty old fossil fuel and 10,000 punters are exhaling CO2 in a concentrated area. “Carbon neutral seems to be the new version of magical thinking.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 01 22 at 08:11 PM • permalink

  53. I was doing the meditation thing at Mum’s bush retreat in the Gold Coast hinterland this morning when a bloke from Today Tonight rang.

    He knew mum’s phone no.? Pffft! Who called whom, Margo?

    ‘I was overdoing the medication thing’ perhaps?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 22 at 08:22 PM • permalink

  54. 49. Mike_W

    Surely not, for that to work they would have to keep a strong mesure of state control and a hard ruthless man at the top….say an ex KGB chief or something?

    Interesting post BTW, thanks

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 22 at 08:25 PM • permalink

  55. #52
    Read my mind.

    Carbon neutral mass entertainment?
    A round of the V8 Supercars would probably consume less energy/resources ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 22 at 08:27 PM • permalink

  56. Damn straight the flag is a “gang colour”. Best damn gang in the world. And you’re too right it’s seen a lot of violence and bloodshed. Couple of little events known as WW1 & WW2 spring to mind. Probably why it flys proudly over the gang’s clubhouses (RSL’s).

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 22 at 08:30 PM • permalink

  57. “Bi-partisan political hysteria” - yeah, Margo that means everyone but you…

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 01 22 at 08:34 PM • permalink

  58. Terry Laneism and Margoitis strike Canada too:
    http://tinyurl.com/29jnqy

    Posted by andycanuck on 2007 01 22 at 08:43 PM • permalink

  59. I haven’t read the comments so if someone’s said this already then sorry. In the UK we’ve (the public) only recently “reclaimed the flag” from groups like National Front and BNP. The flag was once considered racist and shameful because the powers that be decided that because nasty groups used it then anybody who used it was therefore nasty. Hope that doesn’t repeat itself in Oz!

    Posted by andrewf on 2007 01 22 at 08:50 PM • permalink

  60. #32 Bunch of plonkers posting there.

    I look forward to the total shutdown of the cattle industry and the replanting of all cattle stations with fruit and vegetable gardens.

    /sarcasm off

    Posted by rbresca on 2007 01 22 at 08:55 PM • permalink

  61. Ban this Aussie Flag and I’ll tear you a new one.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 22 at 08:59 PM • permalink

  62. Like so many shallow lefty commentators, the stupid cow doesn’t consider what she’s written before inflicting it upon us.
    “louts and racists have colonised the display of the flag . . .  It’s similar to how aggressive nationalist people from Croatia and Serbia used their flags as a political statement”.
    Self-loathing projected? Colonising louts and racists v aggressive nationalist people.

    Posted by slatts on 2007 01 22 at 09:01 PM • permalink

  63. #52

    They will be carbon neutral because they intend to, err, plant a few trees.

    They certainly wont be revenue neutral given that tickets are now $135!

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 22 at 09:04 PM • permalink

  64. #5

    But please feel free to wear T-shirts depicting Bush as world’s #1 terrorist. Because, you know, we vehemently protect freedom of speech (when it suits us).

    The other night ABC radio in Brisbane had a discussion regarding people being a bit precious regarding the flag banning and the t-shirt banning.

    Steve Austin, the presenter, was making a case of moral equivalence between the t-shirt depicting Bush as a terrorist and the flag. He was in favour of people displaying the flag the same as he was of a passenger boarding an aircraft with a “Bush - Terrorist” t-shirt.

    I suppose he would have equally been in favour of a passenger sporting a t-shirt saying “No Muslims on planes!!” or “Deport all Muslims NOW!!”

    The passenger should have turned his shirt inside out and got on with it.

    Posted by amortiser on 2007 01 22 at 09:04 PM • permalink

  65. Forget Margo, has anybody heard Mike Carlton’s opinion on this issue? Fascinated to hear what he would say. Odds on it would make some Nazi/Germany 1930’s reference. And I don’t mean directed at the BDO organisers.

    Clever publicity stunt by BDO. Worked a treat. Most Australians would never have heard of the festival but it is now lodged in the national consciousness as the high mass of the counter culture.

    Posted by Francis H on 2007 01 22 at 09:08 PM • permalink

  66. #59, Margo & co are trying their hardest to make the flag a matter of shame, but it won’t happen because of the average Australian’s finely tuned bullshit meter. We’ve been told we committed genocide on our aborigines (we didn’t), we’ve been told we’re a nation of rascist thugs (we’re not), we’ve been told John Howard is the modern equivalent of Hitler (he’s not). We’ve been lectured at, finger-wagged, harangued by “people who know better.” But as one early Australian Prime Minister said, you can always depend on the good sense of the average Australian.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 01 22 at 09:15 PM • permalink

  67. #25- baby boomers are fast approaching their dotage, and their revulsion with the Australian flag is only exceeded by their disgust that the following generation would adopt this symbol of rape, oppression, dispossession and Anglo Saxon hegemonic imperialism as their own; the silly old fart was being ironic without realising it, a trait endemic in ageing hippies whose THC atrophied brains cannot understand anything outside their narrow, 40 year out of date mindset.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 22 at 09:17 PM • permalink

  68. Just wear your free bucket hat from the Telegraph on Australia day instead or wrap you flag like Sheik dumb dumb did around his head.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 22 at 09:18 PM • permalink

  69. Islam has been carefully nurtured as a tool in this process via multiculturalism and protected by political correctness.
    mike w

    You must remember Islam is an illusion… that have to pretend it exists… and it dosn’t ..

    It cannot connect to the gnosis here…

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 22 at 09:20 PM • permalink

  70. “Flags are weapons”

    Oh, Hell Yeah

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 01 22 at 09:22 PM • permalink

  71. Crickey, importing more delusionals ie islamic story fairy tale knowledge into an already saturated society full of ideas will create more confusion to the western ideology.

    People are forgeting what is truth, and therefore it will fall by the way side…............

    Also, I’m glad australia is not socialist french colony.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 22 at 09:25 PM • permalink

  72. finishing line flag in drag racing looks hot.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 22 at 09:27 PM • permalink

  73. yeah, why not tennis thugs?

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 01 22 at 09:28 PM • permalink

  74. Foreign Firebrand Assaults Anthem

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 22 at 09:44 PM • permalink

  75. #74 Infidel

    Steyn makes a good point.  How did you guys choose the only anthem more dreary than God Save the Queen when you could have opted for WM?

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 22 at 09:48 PM • permalink

  76. I don’t like the Aboriginal flag which I consider to be racist, divisive and meaningless artifice, but my local Council insits on flying it outside the chambers, even though there probably woudn’t be half a dozen aborigines in the whole of north-west Sydney. Obviously there are flags and then there are flags.

    Posted by mr magoo on 2007 01 22 at 09:51 PM • permalink

  77. Its funny, Margo and others of the left wouldn’t dream of coming out to call the Croats and Serbs ‘racist thugs’, it would after all, destroy the happy image of multiculturalism. Far better for these donkeys to have a swipe from the safety of criticising anyone who flies a flag as if they are some sort of thug.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 22 at 09:56 PM • permalink

  78. #75 - I partially agree with Steyn. Adavance Australia Fair is so bad, it’s become kid of endearing. Personally I reckon we should never have stopped singing God Save the Queen. It’s about as relevant to your average Aussie as the health of the Queens corgis, but it’s a rip snorting song to sing, particularly when ones been blowing the froth off of a couple too many coldies. Rule Brittania wold have been a good replacement too, or Bread of Heaven.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 22 at 09:58 PM • permalink

  79. #76

    And do they begin every public speech deferring/paying respects to the “Original Owners” of the land?

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 22 at 09:59 PM • permalink

  80. #78

    Adavance - Advance
    kid - kind

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 22 at 10:00 PM • permalink

  81. OK. Which one of you guys (and as I found out Babes, too) posted at Crittenden’s as Moqtada al-Sadr?

    When you click the nic, turns out kind of like one of Paco’s Babes….:).

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 01 22 at 10:13 PM • permalink

  82. #42 Organiser Ken West has also gone on record saying that he is uncomfortable with Australia Day as he views it as Invasion Day.

    Is that so? Well in that case, why doesn’t he just sod off over to Gaza where he can bleat in solidarity with all those other poor oppressed wankers.

    These mongrels that whine and prate on about how dreadful we white people are should just fucking remove themselves from the gene pool. If it is all so awful and miserable, why don’t they call Philip Nitschke and ask him to help them out?

    Here, take my phone, make the call, Ken.

    Or perhaps he might want to don a burkha and go live in Saudi Arabia for a while as a woman and check out real oppression. That should give him something worthwhile to whinge about.

    Prat.

    (edited to clean up the language)

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 01 22 at 10:18 PM • permalink

  83. Nilknarf Arbed

    Is that so? Well in that case, why doesn’t he just sod off over to Gaza where he can bleat in solidarity with all those other poor oppressed wankers.

    Somalia is good, too. Our people are still looking for targets…or human shields, whichever comes first.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 01 22 at 10:34 PM • permalink

  84. #81 El Cid: LOL! Loved “Al-Sadr’s” joke.

    The babe? Ohhh, yeah! She’ll be turning up in a Detective Paco story some day.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 22 at 10:40 PM • permalink

  85. #75, at a Wallabies game with over 50,000 people belting out the anthem, it sounds anything but dreary.

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2007 01 22 at 11:01 PM • permalink

  86. #85 -  Pity the Wallabies can’t say the same thing.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 22 at 11:05 PM • permalink

  87. #86: Probably afraid of being devoured by all those sheepherders in the stands. H/T: Mike Hudson.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 22 at 11:27 PM • permalink

  88. #65 Francis H
    has anybody heard Mike Carlton’s opinion on this issue?
    Not his but the next best thing. His offsider Peter FitzSimon (brought in to try to arrest Carlton’s ratings slide), opined that “the Big Day Out wanted the Aussie flag banned because of the Union Jack in the corner”.

    So predictable. Such a neat segway into the main agenda - the Republic, Howard has defiled the flag with Tampa and David Hicks, the Cronulla riot etc.

    The BDO imbroglio was simply time for a bit of HOWARD BASHING!  Yippee!

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 22 at 11:41 PM • permalink

  89. 84 Paco

    Loved “Al-Sadr’s” joke

    .

    At first I thought hmmmmm, Crittenden the Farouk and Achmed gig.

    But the “babe” has a bawdy Blog…Damn, I Love Bawdy…LOL.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 01 22 at 11:44 PM • permalink

  90. ban on the Australian flag

    Leftist pricks. Ya know, WE (usin’s, OZ and the U.S.) really should start cleaning up the slag in each of our nations, along with the slag of turban, beard and burka kind, that likes to go BOOM.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 01 22 at 11:52 PM • permalink

  91. Thanks Bonmot. Forgot that Fitzsimmons had teamed up with Mike to ensure a mix and balance of viewpoints.

    It must be be nice to be able to take an action and have everyone interpreting it in the most favourable way possible for their own ends. I’ll have to try that at work.

    Posted by Francis H on 2007 01 23 at 12:01 AM • permalink

  92. O/T - A trim and healthy Kim Beazley just strolled past me, playfully holding hands with his wife. Come back, Kim! All is forgiven!

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 23 at 12:04 AM • permalink

  93. I’m with you, Mr Cid. Dump these cretins in the middle of the Gibson desert and let them start their own republic.

    They’ve got lizards to eat out there. Or sand. They’ll be fine.

    Posted by JonathanH on 2007 01 23 at 12:07 AM • permalink

  94. There was Margo, gone and seemingly forgotten “out of the blue” a call comes in from a reporter for her opinion.  Will she give it or remain true to her principles? Well we didn’t have to wait for the next episode to find out.

    Posted by allan on 2007 01 23 at 12:24 AM • permalink

  95. O/T

    Have a look at the pic of the PM

    Oz

    Is he ‘checking out’ the lady?

    If so, my esteem for him is only higher!

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 01 23 at 12:27 AM • permalink

  96. #92, so, he was holding his Annus then?

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 23 at 01:51 AM • permalink

  97. #96 - Kim’s Annus is a fair piece for an old boiler. He’s a big man (not so big now), but he’s still punching way out of his weight division there.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 23 at 02:02 AM • permalink

  98. pommy:

    Steyn makes a good point.  How did you guys choose the only anthem more dreary than God Save the Queen when you could have opted for WM?

    Fortunately, Australians had better taste than to select as a national anthem a song about a sheet stealer who commits suicide rather than face justice.  Doesn’t go down that well at State Funerals.  But as a national song, its great.

    And not to put too finer point on it, anyone who thinks the National Anthem is dreary can piss off.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2007 01 23 at 02:04 AM • permalink

  99. I’m still fuming about the Cronulla incident being termed a “race riot”.  To my mind, it was pest control, although I did have some sympath for the ambos and police who were caught up in the mess, some of whom were injured.

    It was ugly and shameful.  But what angers me most is the number of commentators who went out of their way to suggest that the racism expressed was unique and isolated to the Sutherland Shire.

    It was clear that it started out as a law and order problem and many of the Shire residents were (and still are) seething about gangs of MOMEA cruising the beach areas looking to make trouble.  The day of protest was ill-advised and predictably became hi-jacked by people (many from out of the Shire - but not all) who had an overt racist agenda.

    My husband had to endure all these jibes at work about our redneck suburb.  It isn’t rascist, not even close.  But we do reserve our respect for those who are respectable and respectful.

    On the positive side, the Shire finally got the police numbers it needs to keep the troublemakers under control.

    Posted by LeftyApostate on 2007 01 23 at 02:25 AM • permalink

  100. Margo Kingston and her fellow multicultis ask why The Shire is so Anglo.

    Strange that they never ask why South West Sydney is so Lebanese.

    Posted by dee on 2007 01 23 at 04:08 AM • permalink

  101. It was ugly and shameful.  But what angers me most is the number of commentators who went out of their way to suggest that the racism expressed was unique and isolated to the Sutherland Shire.

    It was clear that it started out as a law and order problem and many of the Shire residents were (and still are) seething about gangs of MOMEA cruising the beach areas looking to make trouble.  The day of protest was ill-advised and predictably became hi-jacked by people (many from out of the Shire - but not all) who had an overt racist agenda.

    LeftyApostate

    Well put.  That’s about the best description I’ve seen of what happened.  I’m forever explaining the situation as such to acquaintances here in London.  Some of them seem to want to see Australia as racist.  The majority, however, just wish that the British had the balls to do something like that.

    My husband had to endure all these jibes at work about our redneck suburb.

    What?!  You mean people made prejudiced remarks about your husband because of where he was from!?!

    The Racist Hypocrisy Meter just redlined.

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 23 at 04:50 AM • permalink

  102. SCD

    Surely there must be a better choice for Australian anthem.  You’re right about Waltzing Matilda.  We can’t have God Save the Queen.  I’m a royalist but the idea of the particular next in line to the throne becoming King makes me wretch.  Song of Australia is cheesy.  I’ve done a bit of searching.  There’s nothing that comes up.

    Any ideas?

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 23 at 05:01 AM • permalink

  103. Waltzing Matilda is crap.
    I like I am Australian.

    Song: I AM AUSTRALIAN

    (Bruce Woodley and Dobe Newton)

    I came from the dream time, from the dusty red soil plains,
    I am the ancient heart - the keeper of the flame,
    I stood upon the rocky shore, I watched the tall ships come,
    For forty thousand years I’d been the first Australian.

    We are one but we are many
    And from all the lands on earth we come,
    we share a dream,
    And sing with one voice,
    I am, you are, we are Australian.

    I came upon the prison ship bound down by iron chains
    I cleared the land, endured the lash and waited for the rains.
    I’m a settler, I’m a farmer’s wife on a dry and barren run
    A convict then a free man, I became Australian.

    I’m the daughter of a digger who sought the mother lode
    The girl became a woman on the long and dusty road
    I’m a child of the depression, I saw the good times come
    I’m a bushy, I’m a battler, I am Australian.

    We are one but we are many
    And from all the lands on earth we come,
    we share a dream,
    And sing with one voice,
    I am, you are, we are Australian.

    I’m a teller of stories, I’m a singer of songs
    I am Albert Namatjira, and I paint the ghostly gums
    I am Clancy on his horse, I’m Ned Kelly on the run
    I’m the one who waltzed Matilda, I am Australian.
    I’m the hot wind from the desert, I’m the black soil of the plains
    I’m the mountains and the valleys, I’m the drought and flooding rains
    I am the rock, I am the sky, the rivers when they run
    The spirit of this great land, I am Australian.

    We are one but we are many
    And from all the lands on earth we come,
    we share a dream,
    And sing with one voice,
    I am, you are, we are Australian.

    Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 01 23 at 05:24 AM • permalink

  104. #51. WC. Nahhh.. She is a stupid cow that has trouble finding her arse with both hands and a map.

    Maybe I am misguided. But I do think I am smarter than a bag full of rotting monkeys aresholes. Which is a damn sight smarter than her

    Posted by curious george on 2007 01 23 at 06:15 AM • permalink

  105. I would be surprised if there has ever been a Margo post that hasn’t resulted in more than 100 posts in a day? he he he.

    Posted by Hank Reardon on 2007 01 23 at 06:39 AM • permalink

  106. I think it is terrible that QANTAS kicked off that bloke wearing the “Bush - terrorist” T-shirt.  QANTAS have inflicted a major blow on our airline security.

    Picture this - you’re flying somewhere, and sitting next to you is a fat, out of shape, 55 year old nerd in a T-shirt with a slogan that says he hasn’t been in a fight since kindergarten.  His idea of struggling for survival is wrestling with slippery tofu on his chopsticks.

    A hairy gentleman stands up and starts waving a knife around.

    My first reaction is to yell, “Grab the human shield”, and those of us that still have some upper body strength left lift the T-shirted dickhead up and let him get poked numerous times with the pointy implement whilst we pound the hairy gent into goat paste.

    Airlines don’t need Air Marshalls.  They need flying human shields.  It’d be a very cheap program to implement - you just setup a rack of T-shirts with stupid slogans, or pictures of Castro, Chavez, Che etc on them and sell them for five bucks.  Make them a really bright colour so you can stand up and instantly spot all the potential human shields around you.  You could probably even make a profit from it, given how many knob-throttlers are flying around the place to eco-conferences.

    If it really goes pear shaped and you have to evacuate, you just toss them out first and then jump and land on the bodies.  Don’t forget to bend the knees and roll when you land on their ribcage.

    Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 23 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  107. Wow!  So many typos, mispellings and grammatical errors today.

    Remember, people:

    PERVIEW IS MY FIEND

    jlc

    Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 01 23 at 10:11 AM • permalink

  108. mr creosote:  Thanks.  I haven’t laughed that hard in weeks. 

    Elizabeth
    Imperial Keeper

    Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 01 23 at 12:42 PM • permalink

  109. Darn! 

    JLC DID IT.  I DIDN’T DO IT.  DON’T HURT ME, ANDREA! 

    Elizabeth
    Imperial Keeper

    Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 01 23 at 12:43 PM • permalink

  110. #106 Mr Creosote, you should patent that idea before it’s “borrowed” by the Protection of Airline Commuters Organization.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 01 23 at 01:33 PM • permalink

  111. Putting italicsaway.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 01 23 at 06:47 PM • permalink

  112. bugger. Sorry about that. Trying again.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 01 23 at 06:48 PM • permalink

  113. #83 El Cid, good point. Gaza was just the first paradise that sprang to mind. I’ll remember the others for next time.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 01 23 at 06:50 PM • permalink

  114. Margot Kingston is like a Blow Fly any piece of shit will do for her to incubate an ideal.

    Posted by Howzat on 2007 01 23 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  115. “Our reticence to flaunt nationalistic sentiment was one of our national characteristics. What’s changed that and why has it changed?”

    She is stuck in a time-warp where it is perpetually 10 September, 2001.

    Posted by McAnzac on 2007 01 24 at 12:09 AM • permalink

  116. As a regular attendee of BDO, I am always amazed that the festival organisers manage to even set up the stages on time, given the extraordinary amount of Leftist incompetence so frequently displayed.

    With regards to the flag issue, at the Gold Coast on Sunday I saw a lot more patriotism than I ever had before - bands were waving flags on stage, displaying them on video screens and dedicating songs to soldiers who had died for Australia. Plus an abundance of flags on the clothing of punters (t-shirts: “Support it [flag] or fuck off!”). I really don’t think today’s Sydney ban is going to be successful.

    Posted by Fiona on 2007 01 25 at 03:03 AM • permalink

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