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“Demonising”—it’s the latest root cause:
Britain will have to deal with up to two million Islamic terrorists unless there is an end to ‘demonising’ of Muslims, the leader of the most influential Muslim organisation has said.
Treating all Muslims as if they were terrorists will encourage large numbers to become terrorists, Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari said.
Members of this religion seem unusually susceptible to powers of suggestion. Perhaps if we feed them nothing but fish and squid they’ll begin behaving like Atlantic Puffins.
UPDATE. Refreshing views from Hikmat Mahawat Khan and Emilio Karim Dabul.
Isn’t the suggestion that there could be 2 million terrorists racist?
Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 09 13 at 02:19 AM • permalinkThey could assist this Puffin transition by rounding them all up and forcing them into a small conclave on the coast, and then driving the clowns into the sea…
Much like all the mussie nutters in the middle east would do with the Joooos if they got half a chance….
Tell them to swim in any direction, but don’t come back if they know whats goods for them…
Not sure if anyone else has posted this, but in what seems a fairly unnecessary exercise, seems Centrelink is telling all the recent Lebanese/Aust evacuee arrivals about what welfare benefits they are entitled to…
I imagine many of these parasites would know their entitlements back to front from the amount of claiming that many of them do… The poor dears are even being shot straight to the top of the queue for public housing….
#4- that’s a bit pissweak; why aren’t we deploying some engineers to Southern Lebanon to rebuild the homes of the numerous Australian pensioners who reside in this unfortunate area?
After all, their hard work producing hordes of unemployable drug dealers and car rebirthers has earned them a relaxed retirement in the Levant- they wouldn’t want to stay here in a commission place, there’s too many bogans who don’t speak Arabic to contend with.
Morrie needs to do all he can, as these worthies are likely to be in his electorate come voting time, and even though the opposition are as cretinous and inept as their Queensland counterparts, Mozza may well need the influx of well fed with welfare Shi’ites to psh him over the line, in order to continue his good work of reducing NSW to the sort of infrastructure level found in Beiruit.
We are a religion of peace...
...and if you disagree…
...we’ll cut yer freakin’ head off!!!
Posted by zeppenwolf on 2006 09 13 at 03:03 AM • permalinkThere is no beginning to Islam’s tolerance.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 09 13 at 03:15 AM • permalinkTreating all Muslims like terrorists Blah Fucking Blah. I never gave islam a second thought, when the Shah of Iran was deposed my sister and I used to laugh at some of the names Ayatola cum Amy and some of the other turkeys with headgear that looked like Mr Whippy had put it on for them. Then these curious little fucks started to become belligerent instead of killing one another the cheeky turds wanted to kill us. So excuse me if I feel that my society is being polluted by these feckless arseholes and the more they are stuffed about, maimed or killed, I don’t give a Ratsarse.
The wretched hypocrisy of these scum knows no bounds… He’s probably lecturing everyone about the nuanced/individualistic approach that needs to be taken to the complex Mussie community, before heading home to read his copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and brush up on the monolithic worldwide Joooooish conspiracy….
It is funny that in the 2000 plus years that Jews have been demonised, tortured, persecuted and massacred across the world - and which still continues today - the Jews never used that as an excuse to become suicide bombers or chop infidels’ heads off. Perhaps they could learn some lesson from that.
Posted by The Best Infidel on 2006 09 13 at 03:37 AM • permalinkYou know in the past I never gave muslims much thought, if I saw one in the street I wouldn’t think anything about it.
This weekend just gone I saw some ugly cow and her repulsive husband in her car at a set of traffic lights, she wearing a bag on her head and him with some absurd beard and sack clothing. I found myself invoulantarily and somewhat shamefully thinking how much I instantly hated the pair of them and how I wished they would either get lost or simply not even exist.
Funny how as they keep threatening us our attitudes begin to change. I think within the next decade or so they will begin to “reap what they have sown” and you know what? I won’t give a damn.
Treating all Muslims as if they were terrorists will encourage large numbers to become terrorists ...
Australians tend to treat everyone as if they were, or could become, Australian. If they have not absorbed the fact that becoming Australian is great after a number of years, we assume they are idiots or malevolent misfits. There is no sign that the muslims are becoming Australian enough to out their more troublesome “brothers” publicly. There’s some evidence that they do so privately.
There is no coherent leadership structure that can be called upon, nor should there be if they are becoming Australian, and the track record of CAIR in the USA does not inspire confidence.A fish and squid fund! YES!!! As Gene Wilder said…
Posted by arrowhead ripper on 2006 09 13 at 06:36 AM • permalink#18
I think you have been wearing your tin foil hat for too long.
Posted by The Best Infidel on 2006 09 13 at 07:08 AM • permalinkPerhaps if we feed them nothing but fish and squid they’ll begin behaving like Atlantic Puffins.
Otherwise, they might be compelled to share the fate of the great auk.
Sorry, Dr. Bari, but I can’t quite hear you. I thought you said something about “demonising”, but it was drowned out by the sound of Muslims all over the world shrieking that I and my fellow Americans are “the Great Satan”, as they have been doing since 1979.
Why don’t you ask them to please shut the hell up? Then I might be able to hear you better.
#17 Baldman, don’t stress too much. They see us as ‘other’ and ‘infidel’ and ‘kaffir’ and ‘filthy’ anyway.
I’m almost over my lack of empathy for the muslims who do nothing but bleat about how victimised they are while victimising and looking down on everyone else.
We aren’t fit to lick their boots in their minds, so why lose sleep? After all, they are Allah’s Best People (tm)
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 09 13 at 09:09 AM • permalinkAt least these winners know who the evil ones are!! My irony meter broke looking at this so i urge caution.
http://melbourne.indymedia.org/news/2006/09/122078_comment.php
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 09 13 at 09:52 AM • permalink#29 probably not, but at least they have appropriate sounding surnames
Donner makes his remarks in an interview in a book entitled, ‘The country of hate and anger’ (Het land van haat en nijd). The book was written by journalists Margalith Kleijwegt and Max van Weezel of weekly magazine Vrij Nederland. Minister Verdonk will be presented with the first copy today.
Emilio Karim Dabul.
It still is. And will continue to be for years to come. And the threat is not from within, but from Islamic fascists who desperately want to destroy the freedom and opportunities that millions the world over still seek.
Silly me, to think that you would read a Blog, even a fine one produced, in Australia, BUT there IS an enemy from within.
You see Islamic fascists, have teamed with Leftist totalitarians, in a two front attack who desperately want to destroy the freedom and opportunities that millions the world over still seek, as well.
Five years after that awful day, it’s time for all Arab-Americans, and Arabs around the world, to protest against Islamic fascism, to raise our voices - and, where necessary, our arms - against these tyrants until their plague of terror has been driven from the face of the earth forever.
If your written and heretofore spoken in private words are true, gather a million Arab Americans, then two million and more millions, here in the U.S., then take those millions and gather millions and millions more world wide to raise our voices - and, where necessary, our arms - against these tyrants until their plague of terror has been driven from the face of the earth forever.
If, IF you do the above, I can assure you that millions and millions of NON Islamics will join with you, to finish the task already started by nations, that have tasted the brutality of Islamic theocratic totalitarians, for around 30 years (more for Israel) and are answering through force of arms, as of now.
“Demonizing all muslims” is a straw man argument if ever there was one. We always take pains to refer to the enemy as islamic fascists, to avoid demonizing all of them.
They started this fight. We ignored the problem for decades, and where did that get us? 3,000 dead in the US and countless more worldwide. Now we are blamed for fighting back. The scummers are winning the propaganda war thanks to a compliant, dhimmi western media.This is my favourite root cause so far! Three cheers for the awesome capability a handful of outspoken and influential western nationalist racists have: to cause millions of our peace-loving, content Muslims into hate-filled suicidal-homicidal train-bombers!
Posted by jabberwocky on 2006 09 13 at 12:16 PM • permalink“Members of this religion seem unusually susceptible to powers of suggestion.”
Cor blimey, a breakthrough paradigm is born!
We’ve treated the Left as though they were morons, and so they have become! Just look at wot we’ve done to Al Gore and Michael Moore….
‘Tis our own fault!
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2006 09 13 at 12:35 PM • permalink#13, Two million islamic terrorists. Hmm, two million muslims in Britain. Thanks for pointing that out Dr Bari
IIRC, shortly after the beginning of the first world war, some German-American citizens were warning against America allying with Britain and France: “After all, there are almost 5 million people of German ancestry in this country.” Theodore Roosevelt responded to this by remarking “There are 5 million lampposts in this country.”
Posted by Bruce Lagasse on 2006 09 13 at 01:45 PM • permalink#37
Harry Bergeron, you speak like a Londoner but Bergeron is French Canadian name.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 09 13 at 02:33 PM • permalinkIt is racism, you know. The idea that we have the ability and responsibility to rise above reacting to hate with hate. Inferior people don’t.
The solution isn’t to “treat all Muslims like terrorists” and frankly I think that even most people who view Islam itself as the root cause, don’t view all Muslims as terrorists, the solution is to demand that other people be held to the same standard of not returning hate for hate and demand that they also look at the “root causes” that contribute to distrust of Muslims… stuff like bombing civilians, women and children.
Seriously, I can just see my ancestors wandering the back roads of Ireland in their Norse attire and *not* catching on that the reason the peasants were after them with pitchforks was because they had been previously attacked by vikings.
Okay, so that wasn’t serious it was sarcastic.
If we are gonna keep importing the RoP killers & paying for their upkeep I want JH to give back the guns,we are gonna need em.
Oh yes you are. At least here in the states we have more gun friendly areas than not. Here in Jersey I can own guns but not carry them and I use them at my peril. Cross 100 yards of river and I can carry concealed, own silencers and machine guns, and not automatically be demonized if I need to use one.
You wanna see the 2nd American Civil war, watch Feinstein get her wish of “America, turn them in”. You guys really need to get your guns back…soon.
IIRC, shortly after the beginning of the first world war, some German-American citizens were warning against America allying with Britain and France: “After all, there are almost 5 million people of German ancestry in this country.” Theodore Roosevelt responded to this by remarking “There are 5 million lampposts in this country.”
Wonderful, I had never heard that. Gotta use it for a quote of the day.
Treating all Muslims as if they were terrorists will encourage large numbers to become terrorists, Dr Muhammad Abdul Bari said.
In a similar vein
Western-born Muslims seen as biggest threat
Last month, The Australian revealed that dozens of violent criminals in Sydney were being brainwashed by hardliners and converting to radical Islam in jail, creating a serious national security time bomb.
Another expert on Islamic terrorism who spoke at the conference, Steven Emerson, told The Australian that terrorist organisations were increasingly shifting towards training their recruits on how to become better intelligence agents and expose the weaknesses of their enemies.
The Pope has come out and demonised Islam.
Good on ya Benedict.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20408552-2703,00.html
Britain will have to deal with up to two million Islamic terrorists unless there is an end to “demonising” of Muslims, the leader of the most influential Muslim organisation has said.
Will Cuppy, writing on the hog-nosed snake in _The Great Bustard_, comments that it’s a harmless snake but it puffs itself up to look like a deadly African viper when threatened, and then wonders why people kill it.
Doesn’t the suggestion that there could be two million terrorists indicate that the demonizing has already been done… by Islam itself?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 09 13 at 08:11 PM • permalinkIf you don’t want to be demonised then maybe you shouldn’t act like demons.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 09 13 at 09:11 PM • permalinkFive years after that awful day, it’s time for all Arab-Americans, and Arabs around the world, to protest against Islamic fascism, to raise our voices - and, where necessary, our arms - against these tyrants until their plague of terror has been driven from the face of the earth forever.
Excuse me if I don’t hold my breath till it happens!!
These two men are doing something important, and I don’t see them getting credit for it. We have complained for too long that Muslims don’t denounce this or that terror attack. So they issue a routine denunciation, we grudgingly accept it, and the cycle starts again. What these two have done is something different.
The point is not to denounce acts of terrorism after the fact, but to prevent the next one. The “fiery imams” egging on the dull-normal cannon fodder must be stopped. Muslims know who they are, Muslims know which mosques have been taken over, Muslims can bring the poisonous bigotry that encourages these attacks into the light of day, and those Muslims need our help in turning back the fanatics.
Muslims know who they are, Muslims know which mosques have been taken over, Muslims can bring the poisonous bigotry that encourages these attacks into the light of day, and those Muslims need our help in turning back the fanatics.
And Muslims are doing squat-all about it. In fact, like the butthole in discussion here, many of them are declaring that even trying to prevent jihadist terrorism is going to cause more jihadist terrorism.
You may be right, though. They’re doing us the service of cutting through the “religion of peace” bullshit.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 09 13 at 09:50 PM • permalink“sticks and stones may break my bones
but words will simply turn me into a jihadist suicide bomber that vows to kill millions of infidels!!”
<<quote from an anon British Muslim>>Posted by Wylie Wilde on 2006 09 13 at 10:14 PM • permalinkOh, and I looked up the quote…
James Watson Gerard (1867-1951) served as American Ambassador to Germany prior to U.S. involvement in World War One.
Gerard gained particular notoriety for a speech given on 25 November 1917 to the Ladies Aid Society of St. Mary’s Hospital in New York. During the course of his speech he feared for the possibility of up to half a million German-Americans rising up and wreaking havoc within the U.S. once General Pershing’s American Expeditionary Force (AEF) took part in its first major offensive against the German enemy.
His solution was startlingly simple: to hang German-Americans from lamp posts. Unsurprisingly Gerard was unsuccessful in his bid for the Democratic Presidential nomination in 1920.
#44
Last month, The Australian revealed that dozens of violent criminals in Sydney were being brainwashed by hardliners and converting to radical Islam in jail, creating a serious national security time bomb.
This has been going on in the USA for 30 years and aimed at blacks in prison. It hasn’t worked that well, but even one good native terrorist like Padilla is worth the effort to them.
The two problems that this effort ran into:
1. Many likely prospects were doing life without parole.
2. Very few want to give up drink and dope, as commanded by Allah.Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2006 09 14 at 02:00 AM • permalinkHarry Bergeron
This has been going on in the USA for 30 years and aimed at blacks in prison
This is true, but in reality what needs to be watched closely and I assume (bad to do) they are, are the Mosques in the U.S., funded by our ‘friends’, the Saudi’s.
In fact Minnesota just elected…For the past three months, we have used the many faces of Minnesota’s Democratic Fifth District congressional candidate Keith Ellison as symbolic of the question, “Who is Keith Ellison?” In “Who is Keith Ellison? (2)” this past June, for example, we documented the fact that Keith Ellison had publicly appeared under assumed names including Keith Hakim, Keith X Ellison and Keith Ellison-Muhammad over the period 1989-1998. In each of these personas he was an advocate, leader, spokesman and/or self-identified member of the Nation of Islam. These personas were not a relic of the distant past or a byproduct of youthful indiscretion. Indeed, Ellison first ran for public office as a self-identified member of the Nation of Islam under the name Keith Ellison-Muhammad in 1998.
...a ‘former’ Jew hater to the Congress of the U.S.A convert that is now UNconverted? Of course saying anything against, brings charges of racism and bigotry.
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