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Looks like Al Gore musta been spendin’ all his money on them fancy bold tags or somethin’:

Al Gore’s Current TV, a “youth-oriented news company,” is filing for a $100 million dollar public offering. Which means we all get to find out that apparently Gore’s little tv station has been lying about its profitability for three solid years.

Fast Company, NewTeeVee, the New York Times, and BusinessWeek all repeated claims by Current reps that the company was profitable. Turns out, not so much.

“The youth-oriented news company had a net loss of $9.8 million in 2007, based on revenue of $63.8 million. It lost $7.6 million in 2006 and $14.3 million in 2005. Altogether, Current had $36.5 million in debts as of the end of last year.” Why, Al? Why do you continue to lie to us?

Hey, take it easy on the old guy. Let’s see what he has to say about the latest warmening science first.

(Via ioxymoron)

Posted by Tim B. on 01/31/2008 at 09:45 AM
  1. Do Current TV and Web Diary share the same management team?

    Posted by paco on 2008 01 31 at 09:58 AM • permalink

  2. Gore TV, in widescreen format, only showing the weather channel.

    Posted by Nic on 2008 01 31 at 09:59 AM • permalink

  3. Tim’s second link is an excellent read, if naught else because it’s an example of sensible and unbiased research. 

    Oh, yeah, and then there’s the concluding sentence:

    These may all change in ways unknown if a warming climate trend continues globally.

    It’s a fancy way of saying “We dunno how things might change if the climate continues to warm.”

    By God, an honest and forthright scientist!!!!  We need more of them.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 01 31 at 10:03 AM • permalink

  4. Re #1, if not, paco, maybe Web Diary can help out Lord Goreacle™ in straightening out his cash flow.  I’m sure that they’ll work for carbon credits.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 01 31 at 10:05 AM • permalink

  5. Tim: Dammit, are we all glad ta see ya back or what?! I tells ya, we are!

    Ash: “Huh?! Less warming?

    Dude!

    How am I supposed to afford my heating now Tim?! You PROMISED!!!”

    Posted by Ash_ on 2008 01 31 at 10:13 AM • permalink

  6. Tim, I’ll add this:

    Thanks for the awesome Birthday present!!!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2008 01 31 at 10:14 AM • permalink

  7. #2
    Gore TV, in widescreen format ...

    ... selling ads for bloatware ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 01 31 at 10:27 AM • permalink

  8. #2
    ... only showing the weather channel ...

    ... and the armageddon* channel ... how come yoof aint watchin it?

    *armageddon off this channel!
    *loss of revenue due to ads for razor blades and sleeping pills being pulled ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 01 31 at 10:35 AM • permalink

  9. ...research by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on ocean temperature and land-falling hurricanes in the Atlantic Ocean seems to indicate that a globally warmer ocean may actually produce fewer killer storms.

    What if we like killer storms?

    Posted by miriams ideas on 2008 01 31 at 10:52 AM • permalink

  10. #9 miriams ideas

    If you like killer storms, dump some of that killer ice (didn’t Tim mention it a few posts back?) in the ocean.

    The Goreacle’s TV empire is being run at a loss to give him offsets of the tax kind, to make up for those offsets of the carbon-profit kind.

    Posted by Retread on 2008 01 31 at 11:01 AM • permalink

  11. Belated Happy Birthday, Ash!

    Posted by paco on 2008 01 31 at 11:07 AM • permalink

  12. The Goreacle’s TV empire is being run at a loss to give him offsets of the tax kind, to make up for those offsets of the carbon-profit kind.

    Wealth offsets! Fantastic! We can make a killing selling these to folks like Al.

    Posted by Burbank on 2008 01 31 at 11:14 AM • permalink

  13. Well, duh. The things run on thermal differential between the cold ocean and the warm air. Less differential, less energy.

    Next up: “Fire hot!”

    Posted by mojo on 2008 01 31 at 11:30 AM • permalink

  14. Does this mean the seas aren’t really going to rise and drown us all?  HOORAY, WE’RE SAVED!

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2008 01 31 at 11:59 AM • permalink

  15. Happy Birthday Ash!!  The double deuce…..

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2008 01 31 at 12:14 PM • permalink

  16. Well, whattaya know - more evidence for what we’ve been saying all along.

    Amazing what you can do with empirical observation and the historic record. Then again, that boring shit doesn’t get you money, worship and a Nobel prize.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2008 01 31 at 12:37 PM • permalink

  17. Happy Birthday Ash!

    Posted by ruskinrip on 2008 01 31 at 01:27 PM • permalink

  18. Sorta kinda on topic (in that Gore = bloviating fool = Kennedy), but apparently Kennedy had less than utopian ideas when he endorsed Obama.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 01 31 at 01:28 PM • permalink

  19. Happy Birthday, Ash!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2008 01 31 at 01:28 PM • permalink

  20. Happy Birthday, Ash!  May there be many more. 

    Elizabeth
    Imperial Keeper

    Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2008 01 31 at 01:36 PM • permalink

  21. #18: Par for the course. We should have guessed that his motivation was based on something petty.

    I think the last time Kennedy had a utopian idea, it was a vision of a world without conservatives, Oldsmobiles and DUI laws.

    Posted by paco on 2008 01 31 at 02:41 PM • permalink

  22. Well I can’t see why Gore’s Griebschmalz Warbling TV isn’t considered to be working, it sure left the target audience cold. Wasn’t that the objective?

    Posted by kiwinews on 2008 01 31 at 03:02 PM • permalink

  23. Happy birthday, Ash!

    Presents, virtual cake and ice cream, and an Al Gore pinata to thump like a red-headed stepchild.

    Posted by Achillea on 2008 01 31 at 04:48 PM • permalink

  24. We must defend our constitutional right to bear shovels.

    Posted by paco on 2008 01 31 at 05:21 PM • permalink

  25. Interesting stuff about the NOAA, ocean temperatures and hurricanes: of course, our friends at the ABC have managed to find some scientists who say exactly the opposite.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2008 01 31 at 05:42 PM • permalink

  26. O/T, but the ABC and MSM in Sydney this morning are bagging the federal Opposition for not supporting the $orry statement to be delivered by Kevin Rudd at Parliament House on 13 February.

    Brendan Nelson says he needs to see the text first. A rational approach one would think, but apparently that’s not what the Rudd Government wants, so its media minions are this morning busy trumpeting the Opposition’s “opposition”.

    Climate change is to be the second priority of Parliament once it opens.

    Also this morning, we are getting very advanced warning of “pain in the May 2008 budget”. I guess they have to make some contingency planning for the vast amounts of money needed for both of the above and for the tax breaks it promised prior to the election.

    Oh boy.  Are we going to busy in Oz for the next year or so.  Or at least until the place falls apart and the Rudd Government is kept busy glossing over some of its calamitous decisions.

    Posted by ann j on 2008 01 31 at 05:48 PM • permalink

  27. Top of the day to you Ash. And thanks for your comments on the troll.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 01 31 at 06:59 PM • permalink

  28. #26 ann j - Yes and there’s this gem in the SMH this morning.  So Treasury’s secret alert to Rudd identifies climate change as “the single most pressing environmental, economic and social challenge this country faces”.

    Quite so when these lefties start throttling the economy with their emissions trading energy rationing scheme scam.  Perhaps Treasury is being too subtle with its advice.  Could it be that they are pointing out the obvious - if you throttle growth, you destroy the economy. At least one former Labor Finance minister can see through the scam.

    And it seems that Garrett is back on the scene.  In fact he probably never left.  Does that mean he is now allowed to reply to questions in parliament? [Say, I had to stop myself there - I got carried away and nearly used answer as a verb - that would have been an oxymoron ].

    We are in for one hell of a ride - God help us.  Just wait till all this nonsense filters down to a personal level, which is the only logical ‘end game’ unless of course it is scrapped before then. But picture the scene - in a world where we are provided with rations just to allow us live and breathe, what happens when someone somewhere decides to have a baby.  Sheer madness.

    Posted by Wand on 2008 01 31 at 07:01 PM • permalink

  29. ‘Fast Company, NewTeeVee, the New York Times, and BusinessWeek all repeated claims by Current reps that the company was profitable. Turns out, not so much.’

    ‘“The youth-oriented news company had a net loss of $9.8 million in 2007, based on revenue of $63.8 million. It lost $7.6 million in 2006 and $14.3 million in 2005. Altogether, Current had $36.5 million in debts as of the end of last year.” Why, Al? Why do you continue to lie to us?’

    Hey, anytime a socialist can run something for three years and not go totally bankrupt, that’s just like a normal person showing a profit.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2008 01 31 at 07:17 PM • permalink

  30. #25 Cuckoo. Amazing aint it? The High Priests at Church ABC fill every sermon with their biblical predictions based purely on the truththat only they have access to.

    I haven’t checked radio ratings for a while but Church ABC used to average around 5-10% (of those listening on all radios). Even if that rating has increased a little, it’s kind of reassuring to know that it’s only the true believers who are listening to their self appointed prophets.

    But then we all have to pay for their pleasure. Which is how the socialists like it because they get to tell the rest of us how we should spend our own money.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 01 31 at 07:18 PM • permalink

  31. Hurricanes will get worse less worse with global warming. How can these people maintain their delusions?

    Well, NASA can ignore their own evidence. Here is their shock horror “we’re all going to drown due to melting glaciers”.

    But, follow the link provided by them on the very same web page

    Look, it’s been receding since at least 1850. And the 1953 line hyas strangely become the 2001 line.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 01 31 at 07:55 PM • permalink

  32. $o $o $orry. What happens after the apology?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 01 31 at 08:02 PM • permalink

  33. #16 It isn’t just the Sun’s radiant energy that is effected by the Sun’s magnetic fields. They also directly dump energy into the earth’s atmosphere by interacting with the Earth’s magnetic field and the ionised particles and electrons trapped in it. Also,, the Sun’s magnetosphere keeps out, to some extent, cosmic rays. When the field is weak, more cosmic rays enter the inner solar system, causing clouds by creating water droplets by ionizing atoms as they zip thorugh (remember the “cloud” chamber at school?

    Unfortunately, politicos and zealots and misanthropists have created their very own cloudcuckooland chamber and will not here reality.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 01 31 at 08:11 PM • permalink

  34. #33 BTW I feel strongly about this.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 01 31 at 08:11 PM • permalink

  35. #33 ... hear reality doh!

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2008 01 31 at 08:12 PM • permalink

  36. o/t
    happy belated birthday, ash!

    and there has been (more o/t) some discussion about darwin regretting his research.. does someone have a link or reference of some real proof of this? please email me.  i will not be online for a few days and scrolling through a blair thread to find an answer is like finding a scot without a knowledge of whisky.
    thank you

    Posted by missred on 2008 01 31 at 08:36 PM • permalink

  37. god bless you tim, and each and every one of us ;)

    Posted by missred on 2008 01 31 at 08:37 PM • permalink

  38. #36 missred,

    Darwin did indeed regret his research, but not for the reasons the Creationists try to tout.

    Darwin was a deeply religious man, and his findings caused him to question himself and his beliefs. He regretted his research for the pain it would cause the Church and the majority of the Christian population at the time.

    He knew he would be vilified as a heretic, blasphemer and evil doer, and that it would cause a huge outcry, but he was also a scientist. He never wavered in his belief of the findings of his research.

    I have no links or books to recommend, but I’m sure a trip to your local library will be of great help in that regard.

    Libraries are still great places to find what you’re looking for.

    Posted by Pogria on 2008 01 31 at 09:07 PM • permalink

  39. He knew he would be vilified as a heretic, blasphemer and evil doer, and that it would cause a huge outcry, but he was also a scientist. He never wavered in his belief of the findings of his research.

    What a pity that such a brave and honest man would, indeed, end up vilified by so many.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2008 01 31 at 09:48 PM • permalink

  40. that daily tech link was a fine thing - some of the comments are hilarious - eg the ones taking down the latest piece of nanoshite

    Posted by KK on 2008 01 31 at 10:18 PM • permalink

  41. #26
    And don’t forget Rudd’s going to fight inherited inflation.

    Funny, I thought that he’d inherited, as he puts it, an extremely healthy economy, low unemployment, low inflation, no debt (unlike PM Howard’s inheritance from the previous government).

    Kev really is the muddle-headed wombat.

    Posted by kae on 2008 01 31 at 10:26 PM • permalink

  42. Coral reef in cold water off Tasmania proof of Global Warming.

    It seemed that the depwater coral in Tassie has grown in cold water.

    It seems that there’s been coral reefs fossilised near Tassie.

    It seems that the climate has changed a lot over time.

    It seems that the proponents using the cold water coral to prove global warming/climate change keep contradicting themselves.

    Did anyone else hear it?

    some more info 17 July 2005. It’s old news it appears.

    It appears that ABC is repeating the error.

    Posted by kae on 2008 01 31 at 10:55 PM • permalink

  43. #33,34,35; I’ll assume you’re the same guy, not 3 different guys with the same name; Lomborg has some interesting info on cloud formation caused by incoming cosmic radiation; the cosmic (I feel like a hippy when I write that) rays produce ions which combine with small particles (pollutants, dust, even clfs) and produce low-level clouds and lower temps; increased cosmic radiation is the result of lower solar activity or less sunspots; so, it is a double whammy; less sun-heat and a cooling magnifier on earth. Happy days, no AGW.

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 01 31 at 11:06 PM • permalink

  44. 32. What happens after the apology?

    Nothing.  The apology is the end in itself.  The apology solves the problem.  The symbolism is that powerful; even more so than the 200 million, or whatever the number was, who walked across the Sydney Harbour Bridge in support of “reconciliation”. 

    After the “sorry”, we’ll have no need to worry about child rape; kids destroying their brains by sniffing petrol; people of all ages destroying their lives with alcohol; total unemployment; squalor; and complete misery in our apartheid style aboriginal “communities”.

    It’s just like Kyoto - ratify it and all problems are solved - we can carry on emitting just as we please just like most of the other signatories. 

    Has anyone else noticed how all of the heat about global warming in Australia has disappeared since KRudd signed up to Kyoto?

    Posted by Ubique on 2008 01 31 at 11:18 PM • permalink

  45. #41
    The Rudder’s reward to the CPSU members who voted him in ... cut their no.s?

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 01 31 at 11:31 PM • permalink

  46. #33 Hey Wimpy don’t forget that we have taken sulphur emissions out of our fuel. this means we have reduced the amount of sulphur in our atmosphere which actually increased the amount of solar energy able to get into our atmosphere instead of bouncing off.

    See its the Greenies that are causing global warming and increasing the cost of deisel!

    Posted by Killaette on 2008 01 31 at 11:41 PM • permalink

  47. #42
    It appears that ABC is repeating the error.

    Surely not?
    A job for the new & improved meeja botch?

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 01 31 at 11:42 PM • permalink

  48. Happy Birthday Ash.  I trust little Ember is properly flaming.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2008 02 01 at 12:57 AM • permalink

  49. #39 Dave S,

    the story of Charles Darwin’s significant personal struggle between his spiritual belief and scientific certainty is well worth reading.

    For the life of me, I cannot remember where I read it. It should be easy enough to find though.

    Posted by Pogria on 2008 02 01 at 01:24 AM • permalink

  50. GORE LIED!
    TV GUIDE!

    Posted by Penguin on 2008 02 01 at 02:08 AM • permalink

  51. Al’s Currant TV’s raisin debt (rah!)?

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2008 02 01 at 03:34 AM • permalink

  52. Further to #16, on the $orry statement.

    How can you “backflip” when you haven’t flipped in the first place?

    Coalition poised to backflip on apology

    Posted by ann j on 2008 02 01 at 03:34 AM • permalink

  53. #52.

    Make that #26.  I’ve had a hard day…

    Posted by ann j on 2008 02 01 at 03:38 AM • permalink

  54. #51 Wonderbra wunderbar, as usual ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 02 01 at 05:56 AM • permalink

  55. Good news for Ezra Levant and Mark Steyn in their battles with the insane, Sharia-enabling Canadian Human Rights Commissions.  The legislator behind this is a liberal, but deserves everyone’s support in this.  After all, only Nixon could go to China.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2008 02 01 at 06:13 AM • permalink

  56. Pogria and Dave S.

    Christopher Hitchen’s book “A Portable Atheist” has a good excerpt from Charles Darwin’s writings on his diminishing religious belief that grew from his studies.

    Posted by Francis H on 2008 02 01 at 06:14 AM • permalink

  57. As with other discoveries & inventions, did not the theory of evolution itself evolve, ‘Evolution of Species’ being the work of a predecessor to Darwin on the Galapagos Is? working with a particular species of beetle ...?

    (c/- James Burke)

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 02 01 at 06:41 AM • permalink

  58. #56 Francis H,

    Thanks heaps for that info. I’ll definitely look it up.

    Hey Francis, did you ask about the Canberra meet? If so, are you going, or do you need info? Email me please if I’m right. I’ve had quite a bit of shiraz tonight and am a bit wobbly! ;)

    Posted by Pogria on 2008 02 01 at 07:10 AM • permalink

  59. #57
    ‘The Origin of Species’ by Alfred Russel Wallace, predecessor to Darwin’s ‘On the Origin of Species’ ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 02 01 at 07:10 AM • permalink

  60. #58

    I’ve had quite a bit of shiraz tonight and am a bit wobbly! ;)

    *hic*

    (you forgot the *hic*)

    Posted by kae on 2008 02 01 at 07:13 AM • permalink

  61. #60 Kae. Hic is encouraged by carbonation. Which is beer, sparkling etc. The tone for Shiraz is ‘more please’.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 02 01 at 07:31 AM • permalink

  62. #54 too kind. good to see you back egg_

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2008 02 01 at 09:36 AM • permalink

  63. #61
    In my experience carbonation has nothing to do with *hic*.

    Posted by kae on 2008 02 01 at 09:38 AM • permalink

  64. #63 you obviously ‘hic’ too easily. I would like to offer help but I have no experience to draw on.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 02 01 at 09:53 AM • permalink

  65. Al Gore is more than happy to create reality with regards to allegations of climate change being man-made. He is simply applying the same “creativity” to the principles of accounting.

    It’s the “Return of the Primitive” in all it’s ugliness.

    Posted by hkcapitalist on 2008 02 01 at 06:04 PM • permalink

  66. #62 Tks eenie

    Posted by egg_ on 2008 02 01 at 08:09 PM • permalink

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