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TOJO MEETS MODO

The ABC’s Tony Jones concludes his interview with New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd:

It’s been fascinating to talk to you. We’ll have to leave you, we’re out of time. Hopefully we’ll have a chance to do it some day.

Hopefully it won’t be broadcast.

UPDATE. Chris Sheil has a thing for older women, although he’s no spring cretan himself:

Tony Jones, curse you. Why couldn’t I have interviewed Maureen Dowd? I’ve got more quals, and I’m sure I’d have smiled even more often and even more idiotically. The red hair falling Elvis-like across the right eye, the sexy mouth, the smart tongue, the Irishness, the intelligence, the gonzo track record, the self imagination as Emma Peel: let me count the ways. Pity about that ingrained New York accent, although I’m sure we’d manage it.

Dowd was born and raised in DC, where she lived until her late 20s. As it happens, I was invited by SBS to be among a bunch of pundits speaking to Dowd for tonight’s Insight program (taping was yesterday). Couldn’t make it; too busy. If I’d known of Chris’s obsession, he might have taken my place …

Posted by Tim B. on 02/27/2006 at 11:18 AM
  1. "It’s been fascinating to talk to you. We’ll have to leave you, we’re out of time.”

    That part sounds like a bored psychiatrist trying to get a nutcase out of his hair so he can move on to his next appointment.

    “Hopefully we’ll have a chance to do it some day.” Better hurry; MoDo’s starting to get a little long in the tooth.

    Posted by paco on 2006 02 27 at 11:40 AM • permalink

  2. We’ll always have Paris.

    Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2006 02 27 at 11:55 AM • permalink

  3. Hopefully it won’t be broadcast.

    Well...maybe pay-per-view.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2006 02 27 at 11:59 AM • permalink

  4. I liked it.  She mentioned Thurber & White.  I don’t know if she read it.

    Thurber was against senselessness and oppression, ``the desire to subject the individual to the political body, to the economic structure, to put the artist in a uniform so like the uniform of the subway conductor that nobody would be able to tell the difference.  It is this desire to regiment and discipline art - the art of writing and the art of living - that some of us are afraid of ... we need someone to say, listen you sons of bitches, hands off - keep your noses in your economic and political dishes or we’ll knock them off. [cited by Vicki Hearne _Animal Happiness_]

    Thurber & White’s analysis of the female in _Is Sex Necessary?_ is mockery of the analytic pretension of the male in general.

    It does not go into estrogen poisoning itself, the enormous networks of displacements and unresolved issues that are carried everywhere.

    That was summed up in Thurber’s later cartoon, a mousey man pausing thoughtfully as he picks up a telephone, ``Psychologist about to call his wife.’

    Posted by rhhardin on 2006 02 27 at 12:11 PM • permalink

  5. Tony Jones? Is this the Australian wimp MoDo announced she was coming to Australia to find to relieve her hots?

    Posted by stats on 2006 02 27 at 12:17 PM • permalink

  6. "Hopefully we’ll have a chance to do it some day.”

    Now there’s a Night Stalker episode for you.

    Posted by paco on 2006 02 27 at 12:25 PM • permalink

  7. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!  AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!! THE HORRORRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Monroe Doctrine on 2006 02 27 at 12:34 PM • permalink

  8. Didn’t MoDo just write a book about her inability to find a man? Does Mr. Jones qualify as “a man”?

    Posted by nofixedabode on 2006 02 27 at 12:40 PM • permalink

  9. So, don’t hold us in the States in suspense - are you going to keep her?

    John

    Posted by ctchrmkr on 2006 02 27 at 12:41 PM • permalink

  10. Please…

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 02 27 at 12:45 PM • permalink

  11. Hopefully we’ll have a chance to do it some day.

    Music to Mo’s ears.

    Posted by Patricia on 2006 02 27 at 01:16 PM • permalink

  12. So, don’t hold us in the States in suspense - are you going to keep her?

    Please…

    She’d ought to get along swimmingly with Traceeeeeee Hutchinson…

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 02 27 at 01:20 PM • permalink

  13. Hey! Who put that “n” in there?

    It’s a conspiricy!

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 02 27 at 01:22 PM • permalink

  14. To paraphrase Henny Youngman’s great line:

    “Take our pundit...please.”

    Posted by ErnieG on 2006 02 27 at 01:29 PM • permalink

  15. We’ll have to leave you, we’re out of time.”

    I bet she’s heard that before.

    Posted by R C Dean on 2006 02 27 at 01:40 PM • permalink

  16. If this is apocalyptic Bushworld, why does she keep coming back so frequently?

    Does it have something to do with Australia’s particularly fawning group of leftists seizing on an overseas “heavyweight”? Cultural cringe in action, I reckon. Still, no doubt it’s oxygen to people like MoDo.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2006 02 27 at 01:40 PM • permalink

  17. Actually, if you squint really hard, you can theoretically imagine MoDo being sexually attractive to a drunk oil platform worker on a twenty minute shore leave. But only after you first wheeled her to the taxidermist for a makeover.

    Posted by iowahawk on 2006 02 27 at 02:04 PM • permalink

  18. Hopefully we’ll have a chance to do it some day.

    The title for the next post on this ought to be “ToJo Does MoDo”.

    And, iowahawk?  LOL!!!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 02 27 at 02:07 PM • permalink

  19. I thought MoDo was looking for some Cretans to do her some day.

    Posted by Some0Seppo on 2006 02 27 at 02:17 PM • permalink

  20. If this is apocalyptic Bushworld, why does she keep coming back so frequently?

    Obviously, the more media time somebody gets to complain about being repressed, the more repressed they must be, because the media would never exaggerate anybody’s claims on this important issue, and only the most repressed individuals are qualified to publicly complain about it every single day. Perfectly logical.

    Posted by PW on 2006 02 27 at 02:25 PM • permalink

  21. I know, I thought men would be threatened and I’ve been deluged by emails and letters from everyone from Texas ranchers to movie stars kind of wanting to discuss the issues from a male point of view. Most of them are fine but you’re right, the women have been a little bristly.

    She admits women found her book unappealing, but sounds as if she doesn’t understand why.  I can tell her.  She compared my father, my husband, my son, and my grandsons to “Like, you know, an indulgence, like ice-cream or something”.  This air-headed twit is contemptuous of nearly everyone, and has the nerve to complain that she can’t find a man?  What man would want her?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 02 27 at 02:50 PM • permalink

  22. Tony Jones and MoDo getting busy.  Tim, I will never forgive you for the mental image you just created.  I am scarred for life.

    Posted by 2dogs on 2006 02 27 at 02:57 PM • permalink

  23. What a wonderful parapraxis!

    Posted by captain on 2006 02 27 at 04:43 PM • permalink

  24. #s 17 and 18

    Not impressed that Mr Iowahawk is spending all his time over at Tim’s place when he should be at home catering to his legion of dedicated, but starving, followers

    Posted by jlc on 2006 02 27 at 04:53 PM • permalink

  25. Please folks, help reduce the idiot population; remember to spay and neuter your pundits.

    Posted by kbiel on 2006 02 27 at 05:10 PM • permalink

  26. I don’t think this has been mentioned....What a bitch, she is.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 02 27 at 05:24 PM • permalink

  27. Throughout that interview, Tony Jones just seemed way too enthusiastic about it all, like he was interviewing God Himself.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 02 27 at 05:34 PM • permalink

  28. Why don’t they do it in the road?  During rush hour.

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2006 02 27 at 06:00 PM • permalink

  29. #23:  Parapraxis? Hmmmm. I don’t know about Australia, but I’m pretty sure that’s illegal in the Commonwealth of Virginia.

    Posted by paco on 2006 02 27 at 06:01 PM • permalink

  30. O/T ABC News this am

    “Saddam Hussein has ended his 11 day hunger strike due to ill health.”

    WTF? He’s ended it about, oh, at least 20 days too soon....

    Posted by kae on 2006 02 27 at 06:17 PM • permalink

  31. O/T From Mark Steyn’s column in the Sun-Times:

    O/T The third jolly event of the week was those other excitable fellows—the Big Media White House reporters—jumping up and down shouting “Death to Dick Cheney!” NBC’s David Gregory, the George Clooney of the press corps, was yelling truth to power about why the Elmer-Fudd-in-gun-rampage story was released to “a local Corpus Christi newspaper, not the White House press corps at large … So anyway David Gregory’s going bananas and yelling “I will yell!” and “Don’t be a jerk!” at the White House press secretary, and there’s more smoke coming out of his ears than from Ronald McDonald in Lahore, and I’m thinking, you know, maybe Karl’s latest range of Rovebots that he planted in American media corporations are just a wee bit too parodically self-absorbed to be plausible. And then this lady pipes up and asks, “Would this be much more serious if the man had died?”
    Steyn doesn’t know shit about Rovebots

    What?  Too parodically (note to self:  must look up that word) self-absorbed?  To be plausible?

    Wha?  I spent MONTHS on programming those Rovebots.  How dare some Canadian mucky muck cast suspicion on my work product!  Let’s see Steyn do better!  Let’s see him come up with a bigger schmuck that Gregory!

    “Parodically”, that’s sounds like a mean word.

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 02 27 at 06:26 PM • permalink

  32. #30 “Saddam Hussein has ended his 11 day hunger strike due to ill health.”
    I know this is wrong, and I shouldn’t, but I laughed when I saw this. I mean, isn’t that the point of the hunger strike? Why didn’t he just say that Saddam
    "ended his hunger strike because he got very, very hungry."

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 02 27 at 06:46 PM • permalink

  33. #21--Rebecca says: “She admits women found her book unappealing,” then I wonder who MoDo thinks will buy the book, as men won’t find anything in the book, except the key to MoDo’s preening childishness, which is not a pretty picture.

    Posted by Forbes on 2006 02 27 at 06:47 PM • permalink

  34. Well, Forbes, perhaps Modo’s book has a future in bird cage lining.  Or mulching, after suitable disincorporation.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 02 27 at 06:51 PM • permalink

  35. #32 Daddy

    It amused me so much I lol’d. I’m sure the people sitting near me at the traffic lights thought I was crazy!

    Posted by kae on 2006 02 27 at 06:54 PM • permalink

  36. O/T: Today is Mark Latham’s 45th birthday!

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2006 02 27 at 07:18 PM • permalink

  37. #36

    I’m sorry, you’ve mistaken me for someone who CARES.

    Posted by kae on 2006 02 27 at 07:25 PM • permalink

  38. Lefty love ins are so sad. Snow cone plays the star struck colonial to the venerable grey lady’s Mo Do. He was getting quite excited. I don’t think that last comment was an accident.
    Mo Do presented as an aging preening woman. She was far to conscious of her appearance, the flick of her hair, her mouth trained to shape her words just so. The trouble is, like most lefties, contemp and aloofness just looks so goofy.
    I kept thinking what would the interview be like if it was a threesome with Ann Coulter.

    Posted by gubba on 2006 02 27 at 08:02 PM • permalink

  39. #21 RebeccaH:

    An excellent comment! Maureen Dowd is a complete freak. Why is it always the insane ones that get press coverage (and adulation)?

    Posted by Mr Snuffalupagus on 2006 02 27 at 08:47 PM • permalink

  40. Can’t see a softie like Jones being any use to MoDo.

    Posted by slatts on 2006 02 27 at 09:05 PM • permalink

  41. Completely O/T, but it’s time for Labor to shoot itself in the foot again. They must have thought that the Liberal Party needed another boost after Costello’s comments:

    Bang!

    Posted by Mr Snuffalupagus on 2006 02 27 at 09:36 PM • permalink

  42. #41 good one Snuffles.  And while they have taken a bead on their own foot, the electorate keeps one on them:

    Howard the best PM

    Best post war PM:  Howard 32%, Hawke 18%, MENZIES 13%, Keating 11% Whilam 8%, Fraser 4%

    Boom!

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 02 27 at 09:54 PM • permalink

  43. While I almost always disagree with Maureen Dowd’s views, I’ve never seen her come across like the dizzy bimbo we saw last night. I’ve seen her many times on NBC’s Meet The Press program, where at least she appears to be the kind of person you would expect to see exchange views on a sophisticated political program.
    I think last night’s embarrassing appearance on Lateline says just as much about Australian standards of debate and discussion as it does about her. This country’s appallingly UNSOPHISTICATED level of political discourse should have the so-called national broadcaster hanging its head in shame!

    Posted by Brian on 2006 02 27 at 10:00 PM • permalink

  44. Are men necessary?  Oh how clever and funny she is.  I wonder why men don’t find her attractive…

    Though she likes to pretend that it’s her brilliance that puts men off, that can’t be true.  If she had the intelligence of a 10-year old, she would know that if men become extinct in 100 years, women will too.  It’s a basic fact of biology that most children seem to be naturally aware of.  Of course, since she’s deemed men to be unnecessary, MoDo has no children to point out the obvious to her.

    Australia, you may keep her.  If your journalists want to interview her and treat her as a serious author, fine.  I prefer to think of her more like the crazy old aunt in the attic.

    Posted by RK on 2006 02 27 at 10:03 PM • permalink

  45. Oh the heavy use of alliteration! The constant crutch of dimunitives towards authorities! The pathetic school hall taunts? Let me count them all! When will she write another batshit creepy column about bonobo monkey sex?  I cannot bear a day more! Pity the utterly superficial level of thought, although I’m sure we’d manage it.

    Posted by withcheese on 2006 02 27 at 10:14 PM • permalink

  46. So she’s going to be on the Insight program tonight ‘eh? Does our “multicultural” broadcaster ever tire of its anti-American obsession???

    What a stupid question!

    God only knows how many African/Asian/Latin American issues the good folk at SBS turn their back on so the rich, white, “bleeding-hearts” there can indulge their fashionable passion for whacking the Yanks.
    Anyway, Insight is supposed to be devoted to domestic issues. I thought they would have been champing at the bit to express their OUTRAGE over the so-called Cronulla race riots. That must be next week.

    Posted by Brian on 2006 02 27 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  47. Whilst we’re talking about ABC arseholes and the ineffable f..kwits they choose to interview, I’ve just been listening to some ABC chat show on the car radio. The two (putative) celebrities that the ABC hack was talking to was .. wait for it! .. the former American Forces Sweetheart, Hanoi Jane herself, closely followed by Australia’s very own Julian Burnside QC (Quean’s Counsellor ??). What a great back-to-back double?
    Apparently, Jane is here to promote her biography (things are really tough when millionaires are reduced to touting accounts of their own emininently forgettable lies lives) and spent most of her time blaming her father and first husband Roger Vadim (who ‘forced’ her into sexual three-somes) for her fucked-up life. She re-iterated her oft-times repeated mantra that she regretted sitting in the trainer’s seat of a North-Vietnamese AAA gun (whether she just regretted sitting there, or regretted tromping on the firing pedal as American F-105s screamed overhead wasn’t quite clear).
    Julian Burnside’s closing act was actually a bit of a let-down. The ABC hack introduced him as Australia’s “best-known” QC (this is know as artistic licence, ‘best known’ by who?, or ‘best-known’ where?). That aside, Julian’s act was a bit of a let-down. Apart from coyly admitting that he had received ‘death threats’ during some his recent his lefty diatribe could easily be filed under the heading of, ‘Same old, same old’. Actually, Burnside is more important alive than dead. Celebrity left-wing f...wits are becomong few and far between and I would be loath to deprive the real majority of Autralians of a target!

    Posted by Boss Hog on 2006 02 27 at 10:23 PM • permalink

  48. The red hair falling Elvis-like across the right eye, the sexy mouth, the smart tongue, the Irishness, the intelligence, the gonzo track record, the self imagination as Emma Peel: let me count the ways.

    Thanks, Chris, for that unwanted image of MoDo. Don’t forget the Jergens Lotion, else you might get blisters in the wrong places.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 02 27 at 10:27 PM • permalink

  49. wronwright — Yes, we all remember with paternal fondness the day you came running into the shop yelling, “Guys!  CP/M!  We can do this!”

    Although I have to say the tech rep from Motorola was less than impressed…

    What, you people think it’s a coincidence we see the David Gregory meltdown immediately after Apple switches to Intel chips?  I memo’d Karl about this…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 02 27 at 10:32 PM • permalink

  50. Well I guess we’ll know if she did ToJo if she gets off the plane from Oz with that “I just pumped the neighbor’s cat” look on her face.

    Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 02 27 at 10:43 PM • permalink

  51. I blame Michael Douglas for all of this. Everything out of her mouth now is meant for him to hear, “See, I’m perfectly happy without you! Who needs you!”

    Then, when no one is looking, she sobs uncontrollably.

    Sad, really. Most women grow out of that by age 40 or so, but MoDo is the eternal schoolgirl.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 02 27 at 11:44 PM • permalink

  52. I bet Sheil is one of those sickos who finds Hillary sexy.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 02 27 at 11:45 PM • permalink

  53. #42 SCD,
    8 percent thought Gough Whitlam was the best Prime Minister? Holy crap!

    Posted by entropy on 2006 02 27 at 11:45 PM • permalink

  54. #53 entropy:

    You beat me to it! 8% for Whitlam. I call bogus on that result. Even with all the crazies running around at the moment, you’d have to be plain old batsh*t insane to think that Whitlam was anything to crow about. Mind you, including Hawkie and Keating in the line-up makes me wonder as well; WTF?!

    Posted by Mr Snuffalupagus on 2006 02 28 at 12:02 AM • permalink

  55. #46 and 47. Speaking of SBS Insight, they are looking for people prepared to join their studio audience (Sydney I believe). You have to complete a questionnaire but it doesn’t take long and I think a lot of this site’s readers would make much better audience members than many of my friends. From their email:

    “Thanks for submitting your name for possible inclusion in a studio audience for the SBS Insight program.
    1. All in all we had 500 responses, which is good, but A Cast of Thousands, the company that recruits audiences for SBS, was hoping for at least 1000. There are 26 shows in a year, so they need a lot of participants.
    So…I was wondering if you would mind sending an email to any friends you have who might be interested suggesting they go to

    SBS Insight Studio Audience and register.
    Thanks for your help.”

    An audience of secret RWDBs could be interesting...

    Posted by Renate on 2006 02 28 at 12:07 AM • permalink

  56. Tony Jones, curse you. Why couldn’t I have interviewed Maureen Dowd? I’ve got more quals, and I’m sure I’d have smiled even more often and even more idiotically. The red hair falling Elvis-like across the right eye, the sexy mouth, the smart tongue, the Irishness, the intelligence, the gonzo track record, the self imagination as Emma Peel: let me count the ways. Pity about that ingrained New York accent, although I’m sure we’d manage it.

    Whoa!  Looks like the Sheilsy’s fallen outta love with General Clark!

    Posted by murph on 2006 02 28 at 12:19 AM • permalink

  57. well Whitless did provide lots of handouts and called off the draft, etc… so if your a real no hoper, a lazy good for nothing sod who didn’t want to contribute to society and instead just be a parasite - if thats your modus operandi, THEN Gough could have been just the man for u… and u could look back to those halcyon good ol’ days with probably a drug-induced fondness....

    of course if your a reasonably normal, even semi intelligent, human being, u can judge Whitless for the bogus clown he was, and marvel at the good fortune Australia had when he was turfed out on his ass before he could do more damage… even if he was only replaced by that prat Fraser....

    Posted by casanova on 2006 02 28 at 01:12 AM • permalink

  58. i wonder if SBS would check any bags bought along by audience members for rotten tomatoes, old lettuces and perhaps the odd egg or two???  hmmmm, pity Negus doesn’t sit in front of an audience....

    and on rereading that tripe dribbled by Shiel’s, its a worry when these lefty commentator/interviewer types are getting down to competing with who can grin the most idiotically for the longest....  i mean talk about advertising to the world just how low and pathetic you and your contemporaries have sunk....

    Posted by casanova on 2006 02 28 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  59. Chris likes women?
    You know, left wing, lives in Elizabeth Bay, drives a Volvo, brags about a game where he stuck his head between other mens’ bottoms, well, I just assumed..........

    Posted by Nic on 2006 02 28 at 01:40 AM • permalink

  60. #59 - That he was a floral camper?

    Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2006 02 28 at 02:08 AM • permalink

  61. #31 Wronwright
    That should be “Canuck mucky-muck”.

    Cheers
    JMH

    Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2006 02 28 at 02:09 AM • permalink

  62. #53, 54.  The one I really liked was Menzies on 13% Vs Keating 11% & Whitlam 8%.

    With Keating’s well known reaction to Howard bettering him, can you imagine what it would have been like in the Keating eyrie when he found out that Menzies had trumped him?  MENZIES for God’s sake!

    Gorton & McMahon apparently barely troubled the scorers.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 02 28 at 02:35 AM • permalink

  63. I think they should reincarnate Mel Blanc and get him to do the english interpitation for Saddam and co.
    The novelty value alone as he Elmer Fudd’ed his way through “wy dwo not wecognise the wegitimacy of this cwought, eeer” would be comedy gold.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 02 28 at 04:34 AM • permalink

  64. Hate to be serious, but just switched channels from the MoDoSho on SBS, complete with its captive audience of downunder leftist progressive wankers.  Sounded just like a first year sociology tute 30 years ago.  To her great credit MoDo seemed totally and absolutely bored shitless.  Wonder where Bolt, Albrechtsen, Devine and the rest of the forces of truth and decency. Not get a guernsey, perhaps??

    Posted by Rod C on 2006 02 28 at 05:25 AM • permalink

  65. I am utterly amazed that McMahon (2%) scored higher than Holt (1%). Holt is still fondly remembered by many. Have you ever met anyone who professes anything other than blanket derision for McMahon?

    Posted by James Waterton on 2006 02 28 at 05:25 AM • permalink

  66. #65 - Perhaps folks fondly remember the lovely Sonia - she of the split-to-the-thing skirt.

    Anyway, these results are worth little. The number of people who can genuinely remember the earlier PMs is small compared with those who can recall the later ones.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2006 02 28 at 06:42 AM • permalink

  67. Walter - of course, you’re right regarding the later PMs. However, I still find it surprising that McMahon (a relatively forgotten PM) beat Holt (another relatively forgotten PM, though still a considerably more popular historical figure).

    OT, that shot of Margaret Whitlam on the front of the Oz was probably the least flattering photograph of all time.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2006 02 28 at 06:55 AM • permalink

  68. #21

    Precisely, Rebecca, many feminists of her generation now have sons/grandsons and (publicly) don’t see the homogeneous group “men” as the enemy (any longer?) ... it’s about time she grew up ... presumably, younger feminists see her as a screwy old bat, too ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2006 02 28 at 07:27 AM • permalink

  69. Does either of them have functioning mojo?

    Posted by blogstrop on 2006 02 28 at 08:06 AM • permalink

  70. mmm....Ice cream.

    People have tried to improve it over the years...ice milk, sherbet, low-fat frozen yogurt.

    But I’d rather indulge in the real thing.

    Posted by RK on 2006 02 28 at 08:11 AM • permalink

  71. #67: Probably residual resentment at him disappearing up the airlock of a Chinese submarine.

    #21: the women have been a little bristly

    There is a law against this.

    Posted by Henry boy on 2006 02 28 at 05:25 PM • permalink

  72. Maureen Dowdy?  Well, no, only her ideas…
    The funniest bit on SBS was when she was asked what she wanted in a man “since you did write ‘What Women Want’ you should know..”

    Guess what, Dowd had NO IDEA, and was completely tongue-tied!

    Physician, heal Thyself!

    Posted by Barrie on 2006 02 28 at 06:08 PM • permalink

  73. Speaking of Chris Sheil… I was watching DiscoveryHD just now, some show about nightlife on the Great Barrier Reef. The narrator was talking about the filter feeders that eat the various plankton types that drift along the currents; one coral polyp closed its arms around an unlucky zooplankton, and was decribed as “holding tightly to its treasure.” It’s amazing which behaviors survive so many eons of evolution.

    Posted by trexkilla on 2006 02 28 at 08:56 PM • permalink

  74. I would have ranked Gorton ahead of both Keating and Whitlam. He may not have done anything much, but you got to admire a bloke with a smashed in mug like his (courtesy of a Spitfire prang in WW2) who resolved a leadership dispute by voting against himself.

    Posted by larrikin on 2006 02 28 at 10:01 PM • permalink

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