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John Kerry’s fake Jefferson quote sure gets a work out, as Mark Steyn notes:
America’s hardboiled newsmen can’t get enough of the Thomas Jefferbunk. The Berkshire Eagle used it as the headline for last year’s Fourth of July editorial. Mitch Albom of the Detroit Free Press thundered: “We need to stop slicing this country in half, and saying those who support this act or this politician are ‘good’ Americans, and the rest are not. Sometimes ‘dissent is the highest form of patriotism.’ I didn’t make that up. Thomas Jefferson did.”
Er, no. You made up that he made it up. But former Georgia state Rep. Mike Snow uses it, and Miranda Yaver of Berkeley wore it on a button to the big anti-war demo in Washington last year, and Ted Kennedy deployed it as the stirring finale to his anti-Bush speech:
“It is not unpatriotic to tell the truth to the American people about the war in Iraq. In this grave moment of our country, to use the words of Thomas Jefferson, ‘Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.’ “
Steyn’s suggested source of the bogus quote: ACLU boss Nadine Strosser. Whose name doesn’t quite have that Jeffersonian authority.
Fake and inaccurate: the ever evolving standard of the left.
Posted by perfectsense on 2006 04 30 at 10:05 PM • permalink“I didn’t make that up. Thomas Jefferson did.”
What an idiot. I seriously doubt Thomas Jefferson would “make up” any of his numerous thoughtful quotes.
You “make up” a story, or a joke, or a lie.
Or, a false quote by a wise and famous founder of our country, to justify your own stupidity.
TJ is spinning in his grave!
Wasn’t it Jefferson who coined the phrase “Sod off Swampie”?
Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 04 30 at 10:50 PM • permalinkFake and inaccurate: the ever evolving standard of the left.
That goes hand in hand with moral relativism, y’know….
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 04 30 at 10:51 PM • permalinkNo I am sure I heard Jefferson owned a Plastic Turkey farm and he heard a Plastic Turkey gobble it for the first original time. He then angle grinded it’s head off so he could claim it as his own words and no one was left alive who could dispute it.
Posted by the nailgun on 2006 04 30 at 11:15 PM • permalinkThomas Jefferson used slaves to raise plastic turkeys, the fascist bastard. And remember he sent the Navy to oppress Muslims!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 30 at 11:40 PM • permalinkDave S. — No, it was Andy Jackson. Of course, he was standing in a bayou shooting the crap out of the 42nd Highlanders at the time…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 04 30 at 11:41 PM • permalink#7 MM,
No, but he should have. Maybe we can start a story to that effect, and all the lefties will take up the phrase as exemplifying everything they hold good.The liberals and lefties did not seem to appreciate patriotic dissent when the dissenters were going after their fair-haired boy Bill for disgracing the presidency by committing perjury in the trial of a civil rights case. Do you think their advocacy of dissent has a large dollop of “whose ox is being gored” in it?
“Dissent” is good, without regard to the contet or the content of the dissent? Bollocks. The Nazis are dissenters, does that mean their dissent is good and constitutes vitally important criticism of American political life and institutions? I doubt that even the ACLU would say that. Vicious clowns advocating the victory of our enemies (who are hostile to everything our liberals supposedly value and hold dear) are not providing patriotic dissent in wartime. They are traitorous bastards for seeking the victory of our enemies.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 05 01 at 12:23 AM • permalinkVery off-topic…Oriana Fallacci:
At 75, the petite, blue-eyed former World War II resistance fighter who once smuggled explosives past Nazi checkpoints, remains as feisty as ever. Particularly when she receives one of her frequent death threats. She lets the caller have his say, she told the Observer, “Then I say, ‘Do you know where it is your mother and your wife and your sister and your daughter are right in this moment? They are in a brothel in Beirut. And do you know what they’re doing? They are giving away their’—I don’t tell it to you, but I tell it to them—‘and you know to whom? To an American!”
Always the fighter, La Fallaci is today waging a losing battle against breast cancer, and doesn’t expect to be around for her June 2006 trial, though she suspects she would be found guilty. In the meantime she still has much to say:
“The clash between us and them is not a military one,” she warns. “It is a cultural one, a religious one, and the worst is still to come.”
The West would do well to listen to the words of La Fallaci.
the rest is here.
Posted by closeapproximation on 2006 05 01 at 01:07 AM • permalinkThe quote that actually applies, at least in the US these days is:
Treason doth never prosper; what’s the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it treason.
-Sir John Harington (1561-1612)It might be said that treason and treason like activity has already become so thoroughly ubiquitous that it’s no longer possible to “see the forest for the trees.”
I think someone should start a fake Jefferson quote contest:
“I have faith that the American Revolution is the beginning of a new era for man, and that the light of liberty will soon spread around the world. Unless we do something crazy like invade Iraq.” - Thomas Jefferson
“Back here in the old days, we don’t have social security…but if we did, we wouldn’t reform it.” - Thomas Jefferson
“You know, if I were still alive…oh wait, I am. Never mind.” - Thomas Jefferson
Donnah— Actually, the Founding Fathers said we needed eight glasses of water a day to cut our four glasses of whiskey... or perhaps that was just Franklin…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 05 01 at 09:38 AM • permalinkWhat bothers me about the fake quote is that it’s so stupid. Thomas Jefferson was a thinker and an innovator. He didn’t generally spout off ideas that weren’t thought out. “Dissent is the sincerest form of patriotism,” doesn’t even make sense, without some sort of explanation on why dissent is patriotic. It is not a statement that stands on its own to which everyone who hears it, thinks it over and says, hmmm, maybe he’s right.
I don’t advocate blindly following any government, but I can’t figure out how criticizing everything your country does is meant to be patriotic, unless it is something along the lines of “We can do this better.” In general, that is not what the lefty anti-American crowd are saying. Instead, they are saying “America is the source of all evil in the world.” I can’t reconcile that with the pure definition of patriotism, which is love for one’s country.
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C’mon Tim-give Steyn credit for giving you credit.