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Crazy in print, even crazier on television, Margo Kingston attempts to define “the mood of the times”:

To my mind, the Zeitgeist, the mood of the times, changed in September last year when Sir Nicholas Stern made the connection inexorably between the economy and the environment and warned that if we didn’t adjust quickly that we’d head for depression, that we had to factor in the environment and the costs that we were exacting on it in the way our economy worked. That’s when I felt that all of a sudden things were up for grabs. Now only a month before that John Howard had declared himself a climate change denialist on ‘Four Corners’.

Here’s John Howard on Four Corners in August 2006 - the program Margo is presumably talking about:

I accept that climate change is a challenge. I accept the broad theory about global warming.

As much as I’d love to include Howard in our denialist club, those sort of comments don’t really go down so well when we’re gathered around the old CO2 generator. Margo continues:

The Labor plan of having special savings accounts is more responsible than the Liberal plan, but basically both plans are about subsidising people to buy existing homes, which just adds to the cost of those homes. It’s not addressing the real issue which is the asset bubble. Obviously it’s very difficult to address the asset bubble, which means that even though interest rates are lower than under Hawke-Keating, people are spending a higher proportion of their income on them. If you start addressing the asset bubble then you’ve got a whole group of people in marginal seats who see their only wealth-producing asset go downhill. So it’s a terrible problem. The way to do it, of course, is to put more funding into public housing. Government expenditure on public housing has gone down by 30% under this government, rents are out of control. Obviously we need - this is where climate change - I’m just so disappointed with both parties in climate change. Climate change is across all policy now. It has to be integrated. You’ve got to have the Treasurer and the Environment Minister in the same room in the expenditure review committee. We’ve got to have ...

That’s Margo Kingston - the woman who blew $44,000 in 108 days running a blog - advising major parties on fiscal policy.

Posted by Tim B. on 11/23/2007 at 11:33 AM
  1. Margo Kingston - the nagger in the woodpile ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 23 at 11:49 AM • permalink

  2. I keep hearing about Aussie mortgage interest rates, but don’t understand how they are arrived at. Does everybody have an adjustable mortgage and the governmant sets the rate?

    Posted by Some0Seppo on 2007 11 23 at 11:51 AM • permalink

  3. Obviously we need - this is where climate change - I’m just so disappointed with both parties in climate change. Climate change is across all policy now. It has to be integrated. You’ve got to have the Treasurer and the Environment Minister in the same room in the expenditure review committee. We’ve got to have ...

    This is where Margo Kingston breaks down into total incoherence.  What is she trying to say? 

    And what’s the deal with pushing people into public housing?  (I’m assuming I understand what public housing is in Australia.)  People want their own homes, not warehousing belonging to the government.  Why is it so hard for lefties to understand that?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 11 23 at 11:52 AM • permalink

  4. #2 The Government doesn’t set the rate. The rate is set by the Reserve Bank, which is independent of the Government.

    Despite what the Left thinks.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 11:55 AM • permalink

  5. Why is it so hard for lefties to understand that?

    Because they like the Government running everything… except if it’s a conservative government. Then Government is evil.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 11:56 AM • permalink

  6. I’m sure Margo resides in public housing.  Leading by example and all that.  Right?

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 23 at 12:03 PM • permalink

  7. Thanks, Ash_. From the wailing a gnashing of teeth that I’ve read over the years it sounded like if the mortgage interest rate went up the entire country had to pay more for their homes. Now I see they were just blaming Bush.

    Posted by Some0Seppo on 2007 11 23 at 12:09 PM • permalink

  8. So where does a body go to see Aussie election results? Or is there no news until it’s over?

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 11 23 at 12:11 PM • permalink

  9. No worries Seppo. It generally only affects the cost of the mortgage, not the cost of the house. It ties in to unemployment and inflation.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 12:15 PM • permalink

  10. Dave, Bolta and Tim will probably both be having updates of results. If they don’t, the ABC will.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 12:17 PM • permalink

  11. #8
    Australia Votes 2007

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 23 at 12:18 PM • permalink

  12. #8 Dave S.

    Voting starts at 8am Eastern Summer Time today.

    Don’t know how that coresponds with your time, but it’s 11 hours+ Greenwich mean time at present due to daylight saving.

    ABC will be excruciating coverage from 6pm Australian East Coast Summer Time when polls close on the pacific coast. Polls will close on the west coast two hours later, 8pm East Coast Summer time.

    We will be looking also at Fox, CNN and the results of our son’s latest yacht race.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 23 at 12:21 PM • permalink

  13. Live Sky News video is online here.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 11 23 at 12:21 PM • permalink

  14. #12 - Anyone living on CET like me can wake up at 8am for the close of the east coast polls and (hopefully) celebrate a surprise victory by the Coalition with champagne for lunch.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 11 23 at 12:23 PM • permalink

  15. My nuance meter must be stuck in the “off” position.

    Rising home values equals increased equity equals more spending power equals more job creation equals bad?  I’ll get the hang of this someday.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 23 at 12:26 PM • permalink

  16. “The rate is set by the Reserve Bank, which is independent of the Government.”

    Actually, the Reserve Bank is wholly owned by the government of Australia.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 11 23 at 12:28 PM • permalink

  17. #1: the nagger in the woodpile

    No mere words can express my admiration for the genius of this phrase. Egg, please accept this 20% discount coupon which can be used on any of the fine Paco products available in our inventory. Might I suggest something dignified and tasteful like the Poultry Accelerator Combat Ordnance?

    Posted by paco on 2007 11 23 at 12:35 PM • permalink

  18. #17 paco
    Hehe tks - egg’s very own chicken slingshot ... the chicken before the egg?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 23 at 12:42 PM • permalink

  19. #12
    Be great to see Auntie’s faces in the event that JoHo pulls through ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 23 at 12:45 PM • permalink

  20. #17, ooh!  And flying monkeys too!  Perfect for the lefty in the family.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 11 23 at 12:51 PM • permalink

  21. That’s Margo Kingston - the woman who blew $44,000 in 108 days running a blog - advising major parties on fiscal policy.

    Well, actually, that pretty well describes the left’s handling of finances, whether they’re personal or that of the government.  For them it’s all about appearances, appearing to be doing the right thing whether or not good results occur.  Form over substance.  Whereas for the right, it’s substance over form, screwing the photo ops with giving coats to small minority children, in pursuit of actually making minority families better and happier on a continuous basis.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 11 23 at 12:53 PM • permalink

  22. Voting starts at 8am Eastern Summer Time today.

    Don’t know how that coresponds with your time, but it’s 11 hours+ Greenwich mean time at present due to daylight saving.

    My head just exploded.

    I’ll just keep checking back with Tim.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 11 23 at 12:56 PM • permalink

  23. From the ABC’s election calculator right now:

    “Predicted Outcome: Coalition wins election”

    89 seats vs 59 with 2 other.

    So how reliable is this?
    Link

    Posted by gajim on 2007 11 23 at 01:18 PM • permalink

  24. #22 We’re likely to have a good indication at around 10 pm tomorrow night, which is whatever time it is now where you are, -6.5 hours.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 01:23 PM • permalink

  25. #24

    -6.5.

    OZ(NSW) is about 15 or 16 hours ahead of the western time here.  We will get the full results early Saturday morning.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 23 at 01:43 PM • permalink

  26. #25 I’ll try to have it in the bag so you have something to be cheerful for over your breakfast.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 01:53 PM • permalink

  27. #26

    I will hold you to that!

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 23 at 01:58 PM • permalink

  28. Well, crikey! Here’s hoping Howard pulls it out. An Australia under the Ubermommy-like thumb of the Chardonnay Left is too horrid a concept to bear. I have visions (fever dreams, really) of Margo directing the extermination of those who don’t kow-tow to the drooling idjits.

    It’s enough to put you off your feed, really it is.

    Posted by mojo on 2007 11 23 at 02:43 PM • permalink

  29. #27 You do that! The operative word is try!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 02:51 PM • permalink

  30. The operative word(s) are EARLY and OFTEN!

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 23 at 03:02 PM • permalink

  31. Methinks that Margo Kingston doth drink too much.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 11 23 at 03:21 PM • permalink

  32. #28: I have visions (fever dreams, really) of Margo directing the extermination of those who don’t kow-tow to the drooling idjits.

    Don’t worry, Mojo. If her efforts at extermination are as efficient as her blog management, you ought to be perfectly safe (think “circular firing squad”).

    Posted by paco on 2007 11 23 at 03:23 PM • permalink

  33. “circular firing squad”.  Ha!

    Left-wing dodgeball at its finest!

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 23 at 03:27 PM • permalink

  34. Margo is barking mad.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 23 at 04:04 PM • permalink

  35. Marog is great for policy making.

    Just look at what she advocates, then do the opposite.

    Posted by mr creosote on 2007 11 23 at 04:12 PM • permalink

  36. Margo Kingston, fiscal genius. Advisor to the Greens.

    Makes perfect sense.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 23 at 04:18 PM • permalink

  37. Advice from Margo on handling finances makes as much sense as a lecture from the Pope on improving your bedroom technique.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 23 at 04:38 PM • permalink

  38. #22 For Dave S and others (including myself) who have trouble with time zone calculations: This World Clock is almost commercial-free and simple to use.
    Just remember that Sydney, Melbourne and Hobart fiddle with their clocks and are on summer time, but Brisbane ain’t.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 11 23 at 04:52 PM • permalink

  39. Can the Nobel Prize in economics be far behind?

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 11 23 at 05:23 PM • permalink

  40. So correct me if I’m wrong here, but Margo wants the Govt to take my money and use it to buy/build masses of public housing in an attempt to devalue my home?

    What exactly is in it for me?

    Posted by Harry Buttle on 2007 11 23 at 05:34 PM • permalink

  41. [Leftist Rant]

    #40! Harry! How dare you?! Don’t you know that we need public housing to help the less fortunate?! Those who refuse to help themselves? Those our hero Rudd will help when he gets elected?!

    [/Leftist Rant]

    Ash is now laying on the floor, alternating between sobbing that she can pretend to be left, and laughing hysterically at what they believe.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 23 at 05:52 PM • permalink

  42. Margo wears her spleen on her sleeve.

    Posted by Softly on 2007 11 23 at 07:11 PM • permalink

  43. Kingston is the real face of the Labor party.  God help us if they win.

    Posted by Howzat on 2007 11 23 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  44. $44000? Margo’s in good company. The Green Left Weekly “newspaper” had to be bailed out to the tune of $100000. Unfortunately. I was rather dismayed to almost run into some of the unwashed flogging that rag in a mall the other day. My exact wording was “Oh, fuck!!”, IIRC.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 11 23 at 07:29 PM • permalink

  45. Zeitgeist? Please Margo, you don’t have to underline that you are a wanker. Everyone knows.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 11 23 at 09:24 PM • permalink

  46. Margrok is endorsing Nick Stern as a credible economist?  hhehehehehhe ha hhh aa a a hahahahaha.

    I am not sure which of the two to feel more sympathy for.  margrok for mistaking Stern’s polemic as economic analysis, or Stern for being endorsed by Margo.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 23 at 10:55 PM • permalink

  47. “To my mind . . .”

    Stop right there!

    Posted by paco on 2007 11 23 at 11:22 PM • permalink

  48. LOL!

    It’s as if it were a third party…

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 11 23 at 11:47 PM • permalink

  49. You guys crack me up!

    It’s like being at a Comedy Spectacular, only there’s not a single dud stand up on the programme.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 12:03 AM • permalink

  50. That’s Margo Kingston - the woman who blew $44,000 in 108 days running a blog - advising major parties on fiscal policy.

    In fairness to Margo, most of that money went on Medication.

    Posted by Skip on 2007 11 24 at 12:10 AM • permalink

  51. #50 skip,
    bwah ha ha ha haha!!

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 12:58 AM • permalink

  52. #49
    So true!

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 10:13 AM • permalink

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