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Lots of unexploded ordnance around here:

About 60 suspected Islamic extremists are operating in Australia, Australian Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty said today.

Mr Keelty confirmed the figure after former Australian Security intelligence Organisation (ASIO) officer Michael Roach said yesterday that up to 60 extremists were living in Australia in terrorist cells, with an attack on home soil inevitable ...

Mr Roach, who recently retired from ASIO after a 30-year career, said Australia had to adopt extreme counter-terrorism measures - such as targeting men of Middle Eastern appearance.

Roach didn’t actually describe such a measure as “extreme”; that helpful pointer came via the SMH. For genuinely extreme policing, you must go to England:

Leaked guidelines from the Bedfordshire force say that when officers raid Muslim homes they should remove their shoes, not use dogs and not mount pre-dawn raids because at that hour people might by ‘spiritually busy’.

What, no chocolates? Here’s a longer list of the guidelines, which also instruct: “If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer.” A determined suspect could faith-filibuster for hours! No such breaks for Australian cricket captain Ricky Ponting, shown here enduring a security search despite clearly being “spiritually busy” only a day or so before the Second Test.

(Via Tom Pechinski)

Posted by Tim B. on 08/03/2005 at 08:14 AM
  1. But the future looks good for Aussie Politics!

    http://www.rantburg.com/poparticle.php?ID=125785&D=2005-08-03&HC=1

    Posted by Rob Read on 2005 08 03 at 09:56 AM • permalink

  2. I saw that list, and thought someone was having a joke.

    Anyone who thinks that it represents a viable way to conduct police investigations is brain damaged.

    Posted by Pixy Misa on 2005 08 03 at 09:58 AM • permalink

  3. P.S. The SMH forgot to put “ly effective” on the end of “extreme”.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2005 08 03 at 10:00 AM • permalink

  4. ACA had Keyser Trad and Piers.
    piers"if it looks like a duck and walks like one it IS a duck.
    K"why do we need ordinary Australians to be scrutinised,it will divide society.“and “if a person I don’t know takes a photo of me and looks at my peaceful face I would be deeply hurt.”
    p “all Australians feel under siege by people who don’t like the quality of life they come to enjoy.
    Ray-“the police comissioner says profiling is racist”
    p"WHEN we have an event like in London there will be more saying certain civil liberties should be suspended.”

    Posted by crash on 2005 08 03 at 10:16 AM • permalink

  5. Well, Ponting does look a bit of a blighter, eh what?

    Posted by mojo on 2005 08 03 at 10:29 AM • permalink

  6. Speaking of Aussie politics is grumpy old red kerry-about new premier Llemma in new south.
    “He’s a real nowhere man” tempting,tempting.
    Emma avaricious followed with more none emotive language
    Telstra “banging a drum and nailing that target.”
    “this (Kelso) insider on the outside..”
    the “big smoke”
    the Nationals who are out to get cold,hard cash AND political capital.”
    Next Israel.
    Israeli resistance growing OMINOUSLY.
    RADICAL EXTREMIST,EXTREMIST INVOLVED IN A TERRORIST ORGANISATION.
    ACTIVIST accused of planting a FAKE BOMB in Jerusalem.RADICAL RIGHT WING EXTREMIST GROUPS.MINI MUTINY IN ISRAEL’S ARMED FORCES.
    Members of a RELIGIOUS group SING about how they HATE arabs.(didn’t someone tell the abc the other day that it would be the police, not repeat not, armed forces who
    would remove the israeli settlers.)
    NEXT a film being made about the horrors of east timor and the indo militias starring
    Diver Dan,our old friend David Wenham.
    Red kerry described it as walking a fine line between reality and fiction.
    cast member said tho “we want to show what actually happened”.

    Posted by crash on 2005 08 03 at 10:39 AM • permalink

  7. Start deporting extremist Islamic clerics, shutting down mosques,returning their congregations to their country of origin etc.
    ShutIslamic schools
    90 % of the country wants them gone and NOW.
    The costs of Islamic immgration (billions in security,groups who want to destroy us) far outweighs any benefits ( can’t think of any whatsoever). SBS had Islamic spokesman saying Muslim community provides best intelligence blah blah,they bring their hatred and terror and then tell us we better keep because they are the only ones who can tell us who the hate and terror mongers are.

    The biggest liars on the face of the earth.
    Like when Paleo terrorists attack Paleo spokesman “yes this another unfortunate outcomeof Israeli policy” -murderous weazel scum.

    Posted by slamming mo on 2005 08 03 at 10:55 AM • permalink

  8. And remember SWAT teams, that guy frantically shoving documents through his paper shredder while you’re attempting to raid his office is probably only following some fancy prayer ritual too.

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 03 at 11:26 AM • permalink

  9. Jeez, if I were a criminal or even marginally interested in a life of crime I’d get me an ace kaffiyeh and start calling myself Ali Baba.

    Link -> Ali Baba

    That way the police would have to give me free rein to commit all sorts of mayhem to avoid offending my delicate sensibilities.

    In Mississipi, if someone throws a mad dog into your back yard, you don’t feed it - you SHOOT it.

    Posted by dc981924 on 2005 08 03 at 11:47 AM • permalink

  10. not use dogs

    Plato had dogs guarding the Just City, because of their ability to be vigilant and distinguish friend from enemy.  I don’t know if that figures in.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2005 08 03 at 11:53 AM • permalink

  11. o/t British man of Algerian origin arrested at Bangkok airport trying to smuggle out 450 European passports.  Oz newspaper.

    Posted by crash on 2005 08 03 at 12:04 PM • permalink

  12. Crash,

    Please use the term “UK passport holder” instead of British to describe members of the Ummah.  I honestly find it insulting.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2005 08 03 at 12:08 PM • permalink

  13. Why do Muslims rate such special consideration and delicate handling in every instance (i.e., Gitmo guards wearing gloves to pick up a Koran; not raiding suspected terrorist hideouts during prayer-time; not using dogs to sniff out explosives because we all know dogs are insulting to Muslims)?

    Could it be because they are the most easily offended people on the face of the planet, especially prone to hysterical outbursts of rage and paranoia?  And should we honestly let this decide how we conduct our own self-defense?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 08 03 at 01:52 PM • permalink

  14. The costs of Islamic immgration (billions in security,groups who want to destroy us) far outweighs any benefits ( can’t think of any whatsoever).

    “They take jobs ordinary Americans/Australians/Whatevers won’t do.”

    They make Fish ‘n’ Chips, for instance.

    Posted by zeppenwolf on 2005 08 03 at 06:11 PM • permalink

  15. not mount pre-dawn raids because at that hour people might by ‘spiritually busy’.

    I hear that post-dawn is their most ‘spiritually busy’ time. Best to just leave them alone.

    I don’t know who’s fucking crazier, the muslims or the English authorities.

    Posted by Arty on 2005 08 03 at 06:13 PM • permalink

  16. fuckwits

    Posted by guinsPen on 2005 08 03 at 06:39 PM • permalink

  17. Could it be because they are the most easily offended people on the face of the planet, especially prone to hysterical outbursts of rage and paranoia?

    Well, they do tend to explode in rage.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 08 03 at 06:41 PM • permalink

  18. This is Off-Topic, But Still deals with the Islam’s Virulent Brand Wahhabism’s major sponsor -  Saudi Arabia, the King’s death and the struggle that will ensue among 10,000 princes (or are they more than 20,000) Ah, who keeps the count!


    OIL-ARAZZI REPORT FATWA AGAINST THE DEATH IN THE HOUSE OF SAUD

    NOTE: MY SITE IS NOT WORK-PLACE SAFE

    Posted by dtlc on 2005 08 03 at 07:33 PM • permalink

  19. “Spiritually active?” If the cops have to kick his door down in this country, he’d better have his head between his legs…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 08 03 at 07:48 PM • permalink

  20. Sounds like a job for the Young Lib’s Hit Squad. Go team!

    Posted by larrikin on 2005 08 03 at 08:57 PM • permalink

  21. <<<About 60 suspected Islamic extremists are operating in Australia, ...>>>

    Why? Arent the present laws enough to start arresting and questioning them?

    Posted by dee on 2005 08 03 at 09:54 PM • permalink

  22. RebeccaH asked: “Why do Muslims rate such special consideration and delicate handling in every instance?”

    That’s an easy answer. Because the appeasers want to think we are “better” than to sink to their level.

    Which will someday lead to us being “better” off dead!!

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 08 03 at 09:56 PM • permalink

  23. The upside is that these Plod-Chamberlain idiots are just making it easier for the evil bastards to do their stuff. And when they do, the vast majority will rise and demand commonsense, effective policing even if it means some bad bastards get short-changed on their civil rights. It’s not as if they’d be paragons of fair play if the boot were on the other foot.

    Posted by slatts on 2005 08 03 at 10:27 PM • permalink

  24. The costs of Islamic immgration (billions in security,groups who want to destroy us) far outweighs any benefits ( can’t think of any whatsoever...

    Kebabs? Cheap car parts/dvd and cd players/narcotics? The Storm Rages Twice? Fully sik Skylines, with accompanying burnouts? Bizarre and colourful architecture? Op/ed appologia opportunities for dunderheaded columnists out of ideas? Wacky stand-up Keysar Trad and his straight man the Shoofty Mufti? Entertaining crowd shennanigans at Canturbury Bankstown games? Life inspiriation and guidance for wayward chaps such as Hicksie and Jihad Jack Thomas?

    The list is endless.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 08 03 at 10:46 PM • permalink

  25. Are those supposed to go into the cost or the benefit column, Habib?

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 04 at 12:16 AM • permalink

  26. Pretty beneficial if you’re on your way home in your R34 to write your column on our rich and valuable cultural diversity and the ignorance of the average oik for the SMH after picking up a doner with extra onions, and score a DVD player and some foils at the traffic lights for fifty bucks.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 08 04 at 12:53 AM • permalink

  27. #13 “Could it be because they are the most easily offended people on the face of the planet”

    They go looking for places to get ‘offended’. Just look at the Daniel Scot/Danny Nalliah case in Victoria

    Posted by peecee on 2005 08 04 at 01:43 AM • permalink

  28. Time to stop tippy toeing around Muslim “sensitivities” and get them off their arses to prove they are civilised and should not be tarred with the same brush as extremists/fundamentalists. If they refuse to take direct action against fundamentalism then they are going to be vilified. Covering women up, marrying them off as children, living on the outskirts of society, claiming authority of their beliefs over others etc might be a start.

    Posted by rissole on 2005 08 04 at 02:41 AM • permalink

  29. The 7.30 report is doing a job on one of the fellows raided by ASIO a couple of months ago.

    The poor man was has 6 kids, another on the way, and, by the way, the only religion he is allowed to tolerate is Islam. I don’t know how well Abu Bakar thinks he’s painting himself, but each time he opens his mouth another foot flies in.

    He’s been here for 16 years. Time for you to go home, sunshine.

    And while Abu Bakar is happily condemning himself with his own words, Red Kerry starts in on John Howard.

    Can’t wait for the transcript. I love John Howard.

    #17, Rob, speaking of muslims exploding in rage, reminds me of the joke:
    A couple of mothers of suicide bombers are discussing their offspring and one says to the other: “Oh, they blow up so soon!”

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2005 08 04 at 05:42 AM • permalink

  30. If the squeaky wheel gets the oil (oops!) then what does the easily offended psycho death-cult super bully get before a dawn raid?
    A chance to finish his “prayers”? (like the ones a father of gang rapists said he was doing all night so he knew nothing was happening in his house - all complete bullshit)
    A chance to finish his “early riser” spiritually active sex?
    A chance to shred the evidence?

    We are not amused. We are offended. From a Christian point of view it is they who are the infidels.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 08 04 at 08:10 AM • permalink

  31. I loved watching John Howard coolly and calmly sitting back while grumpy old kerry,incandescent with rage,dances about in his chair trying to land a punch on him.

    Posted by crash on 2005 08 04 at 08:33 AM • permalink

  32. I wish conservative politicians would start talking to lefty journalists as though they’re talking to 5-year olds. Bring colourful pictures, speak slowly, don’t use big words, and repeat yourself often. Basically, just condescend right back at those smug, self-important idiots.

    It probably still wouldn’t be enough to de-stupidify the journos but at least the entertainment value would be much higher for the rest of us.

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 04 at 12:30 PM • permalink

  33. PW: I wish conservative politicians would start talking to lefty journalists as though they’re talking to 5-year olds.

    Floating around somewhere on the web is a sound file of an Iraqi Kurd on a radio call in show doing exactly that to a moonbat.  She alternates between wingeing and ranting in response.  I’ll post a link if I can find it.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 08 04 at 02:24 PM • permalink

  34. Here it is.  Scroll down to the second link at the bottom of the first section.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 08 04 at 06:48 PM • permalink

  35. Well, that was quite delicious in its measured application of verbal cruelty. Thanks for the link, Achillea!

    Posted by PW on 2005 08 04 at 09:39 PM • permalink

  36. http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4131&n=2

    The terrorist equivalent of the jogger run over by the health food truck.

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2005 08 05 at 07:17 AM • permalink

  37. Sod.

    Hit the link, http://www.theonion.com/news/index.php?issue=4131&n=2  go to ‘recent issues’ - 3rd August.  A new page will come up and you’ll see the item, ‘Suicide Bomber Killed En Route by Car Bomb’.

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2005 08 05 at 07:25 AM • permalink

  38. Thanks for that link, achillea.  Mohammed could have left out the “little girl”, but he was absolutely correct wanting a direct answer to his question and she couldn’t give it.  All she had was the same, old, empty leftist talking points. 

    “Chirping bird” was an accurate description, although far more polite than I would have been.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 08 05 at 06:34 PM • permalink

  39. Yes, thanks for the link, achillea!  Nice to see a leftie getting slapped down.

    I liked the way how Mohammed explained that using “little girl” wasn’t an insult….he just felt that the leftie wasn’t ready for the adult world.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 08 06 at 02:56 AM • permalink

  40. You’re welcome.  Always glad to share the love with my fellow RWDBs—especially when it’s a lefty getting a bit of much-needed tough love.  ];)

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 08 06 at 10:40 AM • permalink

  41. Speaking demolitions of lefties, check out Ron Reagan Jr being taken apart by Christopher Hitchens:

    http://thepoliticalteen.net/2005/07/09/1910/

    The Onion item above (#37) is a nice piece of Swiftian satire and worth a read, I think.

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2005 08 06 at 11:26 PM • permalink

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