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The Washington Post reviews the work of top United Nations scientists, November 20:
The United Nations’ top AIDS scientists plan to acknowledge this week that they have long overestimated both the size and the course of the epidemic, which they now believe has been slowing for nearly a decade ...
The Washington Post reviews the work of top United Nations scientists, November 18:
The world will have to end its growth of carbon emissions within seven years and become mostly free of carbon-emitting technologies in about four decades to avoid killing as many as a quarter of the planet’s species from global warming, according to top United Nations’ scientists.
Hey, just because they over-hyped one threat doesn’t mean they’re over-hyping this one!
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 11 20 at 11:23 AM • permalinkSO… how many billions are they going to try to extort from the West and hand over to corrupt third world despots? Anyone care to wager that any future “climate change” agreement will exclude from any restrictions China, India and the rest of the “developing world”?
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 11 20 at 11:31 AM • permalinkLead UN Global Warming Professor: Holy underware! Caron dioxide running amuck! Innocent polar bears drowning! We’ve got to protect our phony baloney jobs, gentlemen. We must do something about this, immediately, immediately, immediately!
Underling scientists: Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph! Harrumph!
Professor: I didn’t get a ‘harrumph’ out of that guy!
Minion: Give the professor a ‘harrumph!’
Lackey: Harrumph!
Professor: You watch your ass.Hmmm, I wonder what is an easier problem to figure out:
1) The prevalence and rate of spread of one specific disease caused by a known virus which can be accurately detected by a relatively inexpensive and proven test or
2) the state of the climate in 50 or 100 years in a planetary system which has thousands of inputs, variables, and feedback loops all working simultaneously and which has never been modelled in detail successfully.
Just curious. And they wonder why we’re skeptics and don’t just take their word for things.
“Hey, just because they over-hyped one threat doesn’t mean they’re over-hyping this one!”
Yes, true, but the relative scope of the problems at hand would seem to indicate there ought to be more confidence in the AIDS analysis than the climate analysis, given the uncertainties and time frames involved. Yet, the problem with the “consensus” on AIDS isn’t particularly confidence-inspiring as an indication of the UN’s ability to handle complex scientific issues.
#7: Good ‘un, T-bob!
Top United Nations Scientists. Isn’t that a bit like top pedophile daycare workers? Top congressional minds? Top prison-inmate ethicists?
O/T, but what’s going on with those 13 Labor Party candidates who may be on the ballot illegally? And if they’re permitted to stand, does that make them ballotstards?
I like how he admits that chasing funding was responsible for the hyperbole. You don’t say? Just like the climo-tards as well.
OT: Don’t know if you’ve been to Drudge this AM, but there’s a picture of Obama with a guy standing behind him holding a “Change We Can Believe In” poster who is a lib-tard caricature: Compassionate Head Tilt, hat with millions of stickers proving his sincerity, and that super-sensitive look that says, “There is no way you can feel as deeply as I do about anything: I have ABSOLUTE MORAL AUTHORITY!”
I busted a gut… because it’s true: I can’t feel anything as deeply as he does, because I can THINK.
“To those who feel, life is a tragedy. To those who think, it is a comedy.” - I Forget
Can anyone brighter than me (not a stretch LOL) explain today’s Google header? Moving left to right (up yours China !) I think we’ve got a factory chimney (Boo!), couple of drunken lookin’ skyscrapers and the first ‘G’ of Google in blue with a sickly looking planet (or maybe a marble ? Perhaps an early plum pudding?)representing the first ‘O’:- All this side is given a sickly pink/chocolate hue.
(Oh, and there’s half a river, also pinky-chocolatey and thus,I guess, DEAD)
The second ‘O’ is either Earth in full health, or a shinier marble, or some kind of toothpaste-and-snot pudding. The river is now blue and we’ve got a wind turbine (accurately represented with static blades generating no electricity but a ton of lovely subsidy). The second ‘G’ appears to be a blue lobster doing yoga, then a green question mark for the ‘L’ (not a clue on this one) covering something that’s either a healthy skyscraper (no wino buildings in turbine-land!), maybe an oil derrick or possibly a giant robot’s erection (excited by the prospect of some hot action with said turbine perhaps). Finally the ‘E’ seems to represent some kind of communist Pac-man.
It’s not bloody Earth Day again is it?
..killing as many as a quarter of the planet’s species from global warming, ..
Yeah, right.
Name six that we really need.
Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 11 20 at 01:24 PM • permalink“As many as a quarter” is a great way to put it.
Because that allows any number from a quarter down to [I]zero, so you’re very unlikely to be wrong.
I’m sure their worst-case guess (“estimate” is too kind a term for such things, as we don’t even know with any precision how many species we have, let alone how fast they might or might not die out in case of “change”) allows for a quarter of species to die… but so what?
Promulgating a worst-case guess as a reason to Act Decisively And At Great Expense Right Now Now Now suggests that they have no good, firm grounds for action, or they’d provide them. It reeks of scaremongery.
(Unrelatedly, death to bbcode. Let us use HTML as God intended!)
#12 Paco:
O/T, but what’s going on with those 13 Labor Party candidates who may be on the ballot illegally? And if they’re permitted to stand, does that make them ballotstards?
Paco, since it’s not Liberal or National candidates, sweet f*** all will happen and if they’re permitted to stand, despite not being capable of following the rules, it will end in a court catfight I think.
Not to mention, this may well get attention in the media. They’re being a teensy-tiny bit harsher on Rudd this week.
I’m putting my money on the possibility that the UN sckientists over-estimated the AIDS threat, but under-estimated the climate threat!!!one!
Because the same forces of funding extraction, morality plays, and the excitement of scaremongering wouldn’t apply. Nope, no chance of a Nobel prize in store for climate change.
Like a green Mother Teresa to the Earfth, but without all that tedious hands-on caregiving and devotion to the less fortunate.
But what if I want to kill a quarter of the planet’s species? After all, there are lots and lots I don’t even like and, as they are wont to remind us, the planet is seriously overcrowded.
Now:
“These are extremely serious findings,” said IPCC Chairman Rajendra K. Pachauri.
Ten years down the road:
“There was a tendency toward alarmism, and that fit perhaps a certain fundraising agenda,” said Helen Epstein…
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 11 20 at 03:06 PM • permalink“Your stupid brains! Stupid! Stupid!”—Top UN Scientist.
*SLAP*
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 11 20 at 04:00 PM • permalinkO/T, but what’s going on with those 13 Labor Party candidates who may be on the ballot illegally?
Because most of these pelicans were working for state government authorities, they were all listed as still current contacts or employees of prescribed or statutory authorities. This is more an inditement of the ineptitude and incompetence of state ALP governments than wilful deception by the ALP. I doubt that ALP Campaign HQ would leave something as important as valid nomination processes to chance or potential grounds for electorate invalidity.
‘Pelican’ is the title of a magazine produced by the University of Western Australia’s Student Guild. Sophomoric, overblown, self-important, generally out of touch with reality. CB, you hit the bull’s eye!
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 20 at 04:41 PM • permalinkFirst photo - top UN scientist. Although I suspect he knows more about global warming than the UN braintards.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 20 at 04:53 PM • permalink#32 looks like this might be a stuff up by the Liberal party. Apparently this has not been verified and relies only on visiting stat authority websites. If true, that is plain stupid by the libs, and shades of the 1996 election when the then treasurer (ALP) put out a fake letter claiming some stitch up or other by Howard that was a total fabrication. beyond stupid. If nothing else, it clouds the issue surrounding Newhouse which appears to be correct.
according to top United Nations’ scientists.
Poor bastards. Since the Iraq Oil Skim game got cut off, they’re really scrambling aren’t they?
Thank God for them, alGor dropped in their collective laps. Prior to AL, they didn’t know and could care less what the hell a carbon credit was or is. CO2, was code for their afternoon piece of ass.
Top UN scientists investigate decrease in world’s species.
I’m worried about my financial adviser.
It seems that I should be cutting down on household expenditures. I asked him where to start.
“Leave food, home improvements and entertainment until next year. We’ll look at those later, along with clothes, petrol, cars, insurances, electricity, other sevices. For the moment we’ll concentrate on gifts and postage stamps, which at 1.6% of your budget is way too high. Fix that and we’re well on the way to solving all your problems.”
“I see” I replied. “It’s just like Australia’s 1.5% of global emissions. Nail that and everything will be ok.”
“You’ve got it!” he said with an air of triumph.1: “as many as a quarter of the planets species”
Warmerists should rejoice. After all, HUmas are part of the worlds species. They’ve been saying tyhere are too many of us already. So shouldn’t they be *encouraging Global Warmering*?2: It’s not scientists, per se. It’s the politics of it all. We live in a time where the “soft sciences” are seen as equivalent to the physical sciences. The current scientific climate (pardon the deliberate pun), is the equivalent of Lysenkoism in the Stanlinist era. It put the USSR back by decades. You couldn’t be skeptical of Lysenko without ending up in a gulag.
3: and the Japanese are hunting whales for *science* not as some flexing of their political muscles….. riggght.
Planetary Acquisition/Conquest Organization - taking over the world since 1991!
* Not available in Canada.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 20 at 06:19 PM • permalinkI’m proud of the fact that after two overseas operations involving the UN, I don’t wear their tainted ribbons on my chest. It’s funny as hell watching representatives from the ‘developing’ countries lecturing on the evils of western society and capitalism when the majority of them find that the concept of public sanitation and electricity eludes them.
today UN TOP Scientists have discovered a link from clouds and rain.
Posted by Old school on 2007 11 20 at 07:20 PM • permalink48 - Hey, I’ve discovered a link between lack of bathing and offensive body odour! I’m a Top UN Scientist too!
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 20 at 07:36 PM • permalinkAfter dealing with Central Florida traffic today, not to mention what passes for customer service, I’m ready for at least a decimation of the population myself.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 11 20 at 07:43 PM • permalinkA top UN scientist introduces his UN report to the UN.
Posted by dean martin on 2007 11 20 at 07:48 PM • permalink# 50 - Andrea, does decimation mean ten percent?
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 20 at 07:54 PM • permalinkIf elected, Hillary will cure single-handedly all global-climate-warming-change concerns.
That is, you wont hear a goddamn thing of the subject for at least four more years.
Same goes for homelessness, childhood hunger, America’s standing in the world, the horrors of unilateralism, the forclosure “crisis”, and the weak dollar.
Bugger, I’ll try that again.
apocalyptic nonsense:
More than a decade ago, Edward O Wilson, the Harvard naturalist, first estimated that about 30,000 species were going extinct each year - an extinction rate of about three an hour.
and not face any rational scrutiny.
From this chuckleathon.#40 Yeah.. looks like Hansen and Manne to me.
They had it easy back then, didn’t they?
BTW who’s the one on the right??Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 11 20 at 08:35 PM • permalink#46 Ha he ha..:-) Canada, the wimpiest country on the planet….
or at least it used to be. I adopted my subriquet before our entry to the ‘Ghan. No wimpiness there. I’m even thinking of changing my nom de plume.Now, if only a Consevative majority and it’s the world, I tell you, THE WORLD! Mwahhaaahaa!
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 11 20 at 08:44 PM • permalinkHas anyone ever written a future-history novel in which the UN and the EU finally get all the power they dream of, and promptly go to war against each other? Behind all the noble speeches, blue logos and Beethoven theme tunes, they’re really just like two rival Mafia families, or the Chinese and the Russians during the Cold War.
#57 Wimpy - I would sacrifice my 3rd born for a PMSH majority and let you change your ndp
ndp - mmmh… what is this guy up to??
Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 11 20 at 08:54 PM • permalinkHere’s one of those lierUN Scientists - hint: He’s not a “Doctor”.
Interestingly, Verolme is scarce on teh IPCC qweb site now.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 11 20 at 09:01 PM • permalinkHey, the only thing the UN can get its act together on is anti-Israel motions. Everything else is merely rabid anti-Western.
Stop funding the UN and kick it into the Sargasso.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 11 20 at 09:06 PM • permalink#68 Fallen Angel’s a bit dated now (I suspect that ‘to proxmire’ had a more contemporary resonance, something about smelly dairy cow subsidies) but there is a quite a piquant touch delivered by the frequent brown outs experienced by everyone and the complete lack of central heating as Winnipeg slowly gets enclosed by a wall of ice.
O/T
I found this film of Kevvie after he loses on Saturday….OT Ian Smith dead.
natural causes, not torn to pieces by his oppressed subjects (which is what would happen to his successor if he didn’t have all those bodyguards)
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 20 at 11:08 PM • permalink75, rememeber Smith making way for Mugabe, and the glorious future that awaited that country?
The poor bastards trapped there certainly don’t.Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 20 at 11:40 PM • permalinkThis woman is being groomed to take over Paco Enterprises when I retire.
A case of the UN’s top scienticians shouting
‘the old apocalyptic doom mongering is dead, long live the new apocalypse doom mongering’
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 21 at 12:28 AM • permalinkTop UN child care scientist, Mary P. Oppins.
Posted by dean martin on 2007 11 21 at 03:23 AM • permalinkOkay, so a Saudi rape victim is punished. Who would you expect to be speaking out about it? Larvatus Prodeo feminist collective? the Office for Women perhaps? Or maybe…
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 11 21 at 03:24 AM • permalink...members of the ChimpyBush administration? Must be a cynical attempt at generating poll numbers.
Posted by dean martin on 2007 11 21 at 03:33 AM • permalinkO/T
Never mind, the ALP will be sure to give us some hard times for Kevvie to govern under.#82/83 concern? they should be apologising.
I’m sure you’ll agree that when the incident is deconstructed, recontextualised and proper weight is given to hanging chads and the complete lack of proactive consideration for polar bears, it is clearly Chimpy McHitlerBush who is to blame.
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 21 at 03:46 AM • permalinkon a serious note- that poor woman. what a twisted, sickening affair.
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 21 at 03:51 AM • permalinkTop UN Climate Official trying to tell us Kyoto is working, straight after admitting overall emissions have gone up instead of down.
And I apologise in advance for linking to Fairfax, where that annoying Rudd/Labor add seems to be everywhere. At least you won’t have to suffer through that toe-curling pinging from the TV version.
FFS the snarling, lying, sneering red kezza who verballed JWH last night is now blowing kisses, pulling his pants down and offering his arse up to Krudd.
the ABC is beneath contempt.
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 21 at 06:09 AM • permalinkWimpy - I would sacrifice my 3rd born for a PMSH majority and let you change your ndp
But DAAAAAD!
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 11 21 at 12:50 PM • permalink#88 Dminor
Top UN Climate Official trying to tell us Kyoto is working, straight after admitting overall emissions have gone up instead of down.
They must be seeing an increase in the revenue stream of their extortion racket.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 11 21 at 01:47 PM • permalink“The United Nations’ top AIDS scientists plan to acknowledge this week that they have long overestimated both the size and the course of the epidemic, which they now believe has been slowing for nearly a decade ...”
Crystal ball on the blink, eh?
“The world will have to end its growth of carbon emissions within seven years and become mostly free of carbon-emitting technologies in about four decades to avoid killing as many as a quarter of the planet’s species from global warming, according to top United Nations’ scientists.”
Eenie-beenie, chili-weenie, the spirits are about to speak!
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 11 21 at 02:39 PM • permalink#70 - “proxmire” as a verb was used in a few SF works of the time. Senator Proxmire never met a government program he liked unless is had to do with (as you so correctly note) dairy subsidies. A favorite target of his was funding for space exploration, thus when a project was killed of before fruition it was proxmired.
Hell, I’d sooner see my tax dollars go to producing grainy pictures of asteroids than 4th grade banana condom classes and performance art denouncing white male taxpayers. Building and shooting off big impressive rockets is way cooler than most of what the rest of the budget goes to.
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 11 21 at 06:08 PM • permalinkWC, what’s the matter with you? Don’t you understand they they’re right even when they’re wrong? Now gather up all your money, shove it into a paper bag, and mail it to the UN right away!
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 11 21 at 09:59 PM • permalink
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