Australia is pursuing 413 runs against India for a victory that would arguably rank above Bellerive in 1999 and last year’s Second Ashes Test.

Currently 2/65, requiring another 348. Batsmen out: Chris Rogers and Phil Jaques. At bat: Ricky Ponting (24) and Mike Hussey (5).

UPDATE. India bowling well, but no breakthrough. Australia 2/100 - Ponting 38, Hussey 21.

UPDATE II. Ponting out, caught off unplayable Sharma for 45. Australia 3/117. New batsman: Michael Clarke.

UPDATE III. Lunch. Australia 3/142. Hussey 39, Clarke 11.

UPDATE IV. Hussey unlucky to be out lbw for 46. Australia 4/159. Andrew Symonds in with match tilting India’s way.

UPDATE V. Symonds belts a six then out lbw for despite inside edge. Australia 5/177. Adam Gilchrist in. Clarke looking composed - now 33.

UPDATE VI. Halfway there, with half our wickets gone: 5/208.

UPDATE VII. Clarke’s 50 off 88 deliveries (playing Kumble very late); Gilchrist calmly to 15; target now below 200.

UPDATE VIII. Disaster! Gilchrist out sweeping part-timer Sehwag (average: 48.21). Innings of his life required from Brett Lee. Australia 6/227.

UPDATE IX. Another wicket to Sehwag - Lee gone for 0. Mitchell Johnson carries the hopes of a nation. Australia 7/243 at tea; Clarke 73.

UPDATE X. Michael Clarke tricked in flight by Kumble, stumped for 81. Johnson joined by Stuart Clark. Only 158 runs to get, lads. Heads down.

UPDATE XI. Painkiller-induced hallucinations kicking in; either that, or Stuart Clark really is pulling fast bowlers ahead of square and Mitchell Johnson is smashing Kumble for successive fours. And now Johnson is bowled - off a no-ball! Australia 8/290.

UPDATE XII. Fifty partnership (in just eight overs) between Johnson and Clark. Australia 8/303.

UPDATE XIII. Johnson’s 40 is his highest Test score. Clark (21) is seven shy of his best. Fewer than 100 runs remain. Australia 8/314.

UPDATE XIV. Clark out swinging for 31; 87 to win. Shaun Tait in.

UPDATE XV. A Test 50 to Mitchell Johnson. Australia 9/339.

UPDATE XVI. Tait bowled. India deservedly wins by 73 runs, although unseemly celebrations at game’s end - several players were waving flags, in the manner of rabid nationalists - will require captain Anil Kumble to be sacked


UPDATE XVII. Peter Roebuck need only lightly rewrite his January 7 column to cover today’s events. Rewrite follows:

Symonds found himself facing Anil Kumble. Beyond argument Symonds’ was the crucial wicket. Although not exactly an immovable object, he looked solid enough to save his side.

Then came the moment that compromised all subsequent events, rendering meaningless the continuation of India’s existence as a nation. Symonds swung his bat at a straight delivery. The ball clearly nicked the bat before hitting the pad. Anil Kumble and his comrades immediately roared a raucous appeal. Kumble was especially animated.

Doubtless the fieldsmen heard two noises, as canvas and wood make different sounds, a fact known to every cricketer. That the bat struck the ball was surely more obvious from the bowler’s view. Doubtless the Indians will argue that excesses of this sort are commonplace elsewhere.

If the appeal was bad, the decision was worse. A mild-natured and intelligent man, Symonds departed shaking his head slowly as the Indians celebrated. Instead they should have been fearing the damage done to their reputations.

Posted by Tim B. on 01/18/2008 at 10:36 PM
  1. Currently 2/65, requiring another 348.

    Is that anything like 3rd and goal from the 9?

    Posted by TallDave on 2008 01 18 at 10:41 PM • permalink

  2. At Tests. You furrin devils make your sports sound like school chores.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2008 01 18 at 10:43 PM • permalink

  3. Strange…I have a bit of understanding of the medical terminology & even some of the technology & chemistry/pharmacology on one of the threads below this one.

    Discussions of cricket, however, make me feel truly stupid.

    Maybe someday Paco will explain it to me. 8-)

    Posted by KC on 2008 01 18 at 11:11 PM • permalink

  4. KC:

    We’ve discussed this issue in a secure forum safe from the prying eyes of cooty carrying foreigners.

    We’ve come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a game called Cricket.

    They made it up as a gag and have simply gotten too deep into the habit of playing it over on us to give it up.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2008 01 18 at 11:16 PM • permalink

  5. It’s tough going for Ponting at 2:40pm Sydney time.

    Posted by Bruno on 2008 01 18 at 11:43 PM • permalink

  6. #3 KC: Cricket, shmicket. What we want to see is an exciting game of Tlatchtli. Can you imagine the post-game interview in the losers’ locker room?

    Posted by paco on 2008 01 18 at 11:43 PM • permalink

  7. I watched the last four hours yesterday and it was a toss-up as to who was winning it: Laxman or Lee/Clark.

    If Australia do pull this one out of the fire, then they will have won it by limiting the ones and twos in the field the day before.

    The cricket was hard, the Aussie fielding was near excellent (although Clark missed a high, fast one in the slips) and Laxman steered the Indian tail really well.

    Pathan was swinging the ball really well and I couldn’t help feel Rogers’ and Jaques’ nerves from where I was sitting.

    Great cricket to watch.

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 18 at 11:54 PM • permalink

  8. 6

    Yes…with the talking heads, reporting.

    Posted by El Cid on 2008 01 19 at 12:03 AM • permalink

  9. Ponting out - a test for Clarke; is he tough enough?

    Posted by Bruno on 2008 01 19 at 12:04 AM • permalink

  10. #6:

    Hi. This is Brad Smilo, and I’m here in the locker room of the Olmec Serpents with the team captain, Quezaltinochtitluan “Buster” Cuauhtemoc. So, Buster, a tough loss today.

    Buster: You said it, paleface.

    Brad: The guys really gave 200% this afternoon, but they just couldn’t seem to come back from that 1-0 deficit.

    Buster: In Tlatchtli, only play to “1”. First team to score win.

    Brad: Uh huh. Now, I noticed that Jamal Xoxyltlatan was having a little trouble moving the ball down the court in the last quarter. What do you think the problem was?

    Buster: Paleface ever try to move five-pound ball using only hips and elbows? You try ‘em, sometime, come back and tell “what problem is”.

    Brad: Well, Buster, it looks like the season is over for the Serpents. Any plans for the off-season?

    Buster: Ohhh, maybe have heart cut out, head chopped off; wind up as main course at king’s banquet. Usual stuff.

    Brad: That’s great, Buster. Good luck, and we’ll be looking for your head on a pike outside the palace on our way out.

    Back to you Skip.

    Posted by paco on 2008 01 19 at 12:17 AM • permalink

  11. “...and Laxman steered the Indian tail pretty well.”

    Sooo many avenues,so little time.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2008 01 19 at 12:28 AM • permalink

  12. paco:

    That would cut down on point shaving.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2008 01 19 at 12:34 AM • permalink

  13. Grimmy

    Yeah, but it would take the fun out of the over/under.  Tradeoffs, tradeoffs.

    Pats/Packers on 2/3, if they can thaw them all out in time.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2008 01 19 at 12:52 AM • permalink

  14. Paco/KC. Some cricket lingo.

    Runs..it’s a metaphor for diarrhoea because we need lots of them to give the Indians the shits and win the game.

    In fact, if we achieve 413 runs in the next 4 hours then we will give the whole Indian nation the shits which is a lot of runs.

    Balls..another metaphor for courage/intelligence/well balls. They have 6 balls over and over again until the end of play. If they run out of balls and we get enough runs then we win.

    I can’t make it any clearer than that.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 01 19 at 01:08 AM • permalink

  15. mehaul:

    That was the best imitation of the teacher in Charlie Brown cartoons that I’ve ever witnessed.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2008 01 19 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  16. 271 is doable in 3 sessions, lets just hope the batsmen hold out.

    How are they playing things at present? What’s the wicket doing?

    Posted by Nic on 2008 01 19 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  17. OT Anyone aspiring to master the art of propaganda, or just getting ahead at the SMH or ABC would do well to check this out.

    1. Give shortest possible shrift, that is, certainly do not publish photographs or report on the context

    2. Get photo of a distressed Palestinian child (if grandma unavailable). Under no circumstances publish photos of injured Israeli children.

    3. If they insist on balance, get a quote from a nameless Israeli Army spokesperson, and bury it in the copy somewhere.

    4. Having established a void of context, fill it shamelessly with quotes from Palestinians:

    “How could they drop such a bomb in a residential area on top of people’s heads?”

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2008 01 19 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  18. #16 Nic. It’s 3.25pm Qld time and we’re 3/152 on a wicket that’s starting to turn and Kumble is on again. Hussey is mixing extreme caution and pragmaticism. Clarke is looking a bit shakier but then pulls a 4 from his rear end. The crowd are into it. I think we can do it.

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 01 19 at 01:28 AM • permalink

  19. Thanks mehaul. Conducting interviews in HK. I can get the scores but don’t know how it’s playing. Thanks.

    Posted by Nic on 2008 01 19 at 01:34 AM • permalink

  20. Ah Firetruck! Hussey’s gone.

    Posted by Nic on 2008 01 19 at 01:42 AM • permalink

  21. Media wanted to sabotage Ponting’s team. Have they succeeded?

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 01 19 at 01:50 AM • permalink

  22. Margos Maid have you heard of Pallywood?

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 01 19 at 01:53 AM • permalink

  23. Hussey and now Symonds out to dodgy decisions. What is one to think? The only agreement between the two teams now for the next test must be ‘all bets are off’ in respect of appealing etc.

    Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrot on 2008 01 19 at 01:56 AM • permalink

  24. O/T, but I passed my pre-enlistment fitness test this morning and was appointed as an officer (in training) in the RAAF. Off to 23 Sqn next week.

    Posted by Habib on 2008 01 19 at 02:01 AM • permalink

  25. Habib have a good flight.

    Posted by stackja1945 on 2008 01 19 at 02:17 AM • permalink

  26. #24 Habib,

    boo yaaaaah!

    Posted by Pogria on 2008 01 19 at 02:19 AM • permalink

  27. fly safe, habib

    Posted by missred on 2008 01 19 at 02:32 AM • permalink

  28. ok i cant help the love of my country
    as shit as they are

    Posted by missred on 2008 01 19 at 02:37 AM • permalink

  29. damn link. let me try again

    Posted by missred on 2008 01 19 at 02:38 AM • permalink

  30. lets try this

    Posted by missred on 2008 01 19 at 02:40 AM • permalink

  31. ahh it worked
    carry on, you lot

    Posted by missred on 2008 01 19 at 02:42 AM • permalink

  32. Exciting stuff, isn’t it Tim?

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 02:51 AM • permalink

  33. UPDATE VIII. Disaster!

    Good thing you’re on super-duper pain killers, ay*?


    *a Queensland affectation I have picked up.

    Posted by kae on 2008 01 19 at 02:51 AM • permalink

  34. #33 When did all the Canadians move in?

    Posted by Ash_ on 2008 01 19 at 03:07 AM • permalink

  35. Tea 7/243

    Got to admit, this looks like an Indian win, unless Clarke something superhuman with the tail.

    What was Gilchrist thinking of?

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 03:18 AM • permalink

  36. ...unless Clarke produces something superhuman with the tail.

    Missed a verb. What was I thinking?

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 03:21 AM • permalink

  37. We should now pull out of the test series on the basis of a few bad umpiring decisions and aggressive posturing by the Indian quicks. Then demand the sacking of the Indian test captain for being too ‘anil’

    Posted by Roebutt on 2008 01 19 at 03:35 AM • permalink

  38. Saddest thing I saw yesterday: Shaun Tait running in with no confidence in himself.

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 03:42 AM • permalink

  39. Disaster! Clarke stumped on 81 from Kumble. The End is Nigh…

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 03:47 AM • permalink

  40. The point Symonds made in Sydney has been borne out with remarakable speed - and, of course, it had to be that moron Billy Bowden who did it for him.

    Sure, he could have walked in Sydney. But would he then have been within his rights to have stood his ground today? Has Roebuck got an opinion on that? What about all those pricks who spent the week writing letters calling Symonds a cheat?

    The terrible fact is, poor umpiring decisions have been the deciding factor in two very good tests which just might have been great tests if the umpires had got their decisions right.

    Posted by BB77 on 2008 01 19 at 03:51 AM • permalink

  41. No doubt there are people out there who seriously expected Kumble to call Symonds back after that appalling LBW.

    Now do they realise how the game is played by both sides - all sides, in fact?

    Probably not. Watch tomorrow’s papers. They’ll be slinging off on Symonds, suggesting he deserved the bad decision for not walking, when in fact the two bad decisions merely proved the point he made.

    Posted by BB77 on 2008 01 19 at 03:54 AM • permalink

  42. Did Symonds walk or did the umpire lift his finger? Because if its the former, Kumble could have called him back - if its the latter, Kumble has no power to call him back and annul the umpire.

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 04:03 AM • permalink

  43. Looks like Mitchell Johnson had his Weeties this morning…

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 04:18 AM • permalink

  44. Nice guys always come last…

    Posted by Roebutt on 2008 01 19 at 05:04 AM • permalink

  45. What is Spankys views on India’s celebrating at the end of the match? Over-indulgent? Excessive? Or just ‘exuberance’? Take note of Dhoni running past the Australian batsman, only offering his hand at the last second. Roebuck, your thoughts, you hypocritical prick.

    Posted by CB on 2008 01 19 at 05:06 AM • permalink

  46. I blame Peter Roebuck; he MUST resign.

    Now, where can I find his effigy and a box of matches?

    Posted by Burbank on 2008 01 19 at 05:15 AM • permalink

  47. I watched the last two hours of the second test replayed on pay TV late the other night. I heard Tony Greig saying in the dying moments of the match how wonderful it had been and how brilliantly the Aussies had played. Funny that the next day he thought it was an awful game and that the Aussies had been so awful in winning.
    In reviewing it closely, I saw absolutely nothing that concerned me at all and nothing I haven’t just seen by the Indians in Perth. What I have also seen in Perth is a lot of Indians wearing zinc cream, a lot of Indians appealing for ridiculous LBWs (mostly by their ‘noble’ captain), stupid umpiring and Indians screaming ‘catch it’ 3000 times (even when the ball is struck immediately into the ground). I will bet my house that none of these rates a mention in any reporting of this match.
    Also, in relation to arrogant, doesn’t this take the prize?

    Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrot on 2008 01 19 at 05:22 AM • permalink

  48. #24: Congratulations, Habib (I mean, congratulations, Sir!) Keep ‘em flying.

    Posted by paco on 2008 01 19 at 05:23 AM • permalink

  49. #24
    Some Air Farce lingo to help you fit in.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2008 01 19 at 05:36 AM • permalink

  50. Death to Roebuck ! Ulululululuu

    Posted by Nic on 2008 01 19 at 05:38 AM • permalink

  51. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, John A. The umpire has the power to revoke his decision at any time - as many umpires have done on many occaions. As with Pietersen’s reversed decision last year when Donhi claimed a catch off a snick that clearly bounced. Yes, Pietersen walked, but the ump also raised his finger. It happens all the time. Kumble appealed when the snick was clear to everyone except Silly Billy. So who’s the cheat now?

    Posted by BB77 on 2008 01 19 at 05:51 AM • permalink

  52. Never mind BB77 you’ll never understand cricket.

    Peterson had walked which meant that the umpire didn’t have to raise his finger. The replay clearly showed the bounce (which Dhoni probably didn’t see as it was right in front of his glove). His team mates told him to go back.

    Peterson was out a few balls later.

    I saw the replay on Symonds and the nick was fractional, the sort of thing that only appears on slow motion replays, snickometers and all.

    I didn’t call Symonds a cheat. I did say that Symonds abused the spirit of the game by crowing about it and the majority of the Aussie supporters agreed with me. Not you of course because you’re not a cricket supporter.

    I look forward to the Adelaide Test when the Aussies roar back with Haydn and Hogg back in the team, where there’s turn in the pitch and swing in the air and everyone playing their hearts out.

    Me? I thought the Indian team played marginally better especially with the bat and deserved the win (and Punter agreed that the batting was what let Australia down especially the first innings). I thought Clarke and Johnson were fabulous with the bat today. I thought Laxman probably was the difference in the 2nd Indian innings between a close shave and a comfortable win. I thought Brett Lee was accurate and aggressive. I thought Pathan scared Rogers and Jaques into playing false shots. I thought the entire match was fascinating to watch as a neutral.

    Look on the bright side BB77 - the Major League baseball season starts on February 27. Its right up your street with dosed up players, greaseballs, fights in the dugout, dirty tricks and cheating from everyone, from the ballboys to the groundstaff and featuring two teams of grown men playing rounders in pyjamas and hard hats. Where winning is everything and honour is for losers.

    You should love it.

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 06:13 AM • permalink

  53. O/T Federer pushed to 10 games in the 5th set at the Australian Open. 4 1/2 hours. Hell of a game.

    Posted by CB on 2008 01 19 at 06:17 AM • permalink

  54. #49- Roger wilco, old fruit, the bosche is coming in at 24 angels, time to go big wing from 30 high, attack in squadrons, tally ho!

    Posted by Habib on 2008 01 19 at 06:28 AM • permalink

  55. Everything I know about cricket I learned from King Ralph.

    Posted by rightwingprof on 2008 01 19 at 06:38 AM • permalink

  56. BB77 (#51) is correct in saying that the umpire has the power to revoke any decision made on the field, including that of batsmen being given out either prematurely or incorrectly.
    The signal to the scorers is made by crossing the arms over the chest, indicating to the scorers that the previous signal is revoked. It must be made either before the batsman has left the field or before the next ball is bowled. Once either of those events occur, the decision (incorrect or otherwise) must stand.
    It rarely happens at Test or even 1st class level, but I have seen it done many times at grade level, usually when inexperienced umpires make a reflex decision, then on reflection realise that the decision was wrong. Occasionally, (and rarely) fieldsmen or opposition captains will withdraw an appeal if an umpire has made a glaring error despite the appeal from the fielding side.
    The issue of “walking” is one that raises the blood pressure of opposing schools of thought. There is no correct answer, but failing to “walk” is not, and never has been, a sign of cheating, any more than vigorous and enthusiastic appeals are cheating.

    If a Test level umpire feels “pressured” by players to make incorrect decisions, then he should look for another line of work.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2008 01 19 at 06:49 AM • permalink

  57. Great game of tennis.  You could just sense Roger was going to break serve any minute.

    Re cricket - how sad.  I blame Tait’s selection, Roebuck’s and the rest of the ninny media inflaming and then Aust not thumbing their nose in this Test and really going hard at it.  This loss put down to their first innings bat, and the absence of Haydon.

    Gilchrist - sigh.

    oh well

    16 straight - well done!

    Posted by peter m on 2008 01 19 at 06:54 AM • permalink

  58. Good morning from Winter in Jacksonville, Florida! Rain & +48F this fine day. Has the losing team been beheaded yet? Maybe I read that wrong, gotta go find some coffee.

    Habib, Sir, Congratulations!

    Posted by KC on 2008 01 19 at 08:05 AM • permalink

  59. Great race. The 18 car caught a flibberty jibbit from the 30 and spun a donut with coffee. Your thoughts, John A?

    Posted by dean martin on 2008 01 19 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  60. Dean: How did they manage to miss so often?

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 08:23 AM • permalink

  61. Tim B:

    A mild-natured and intelligent man, Symonds departed shaking his head slowly…


    A brilliant piece of comedy! You should write for a living.

    Posted by John A on 2008 01 19 at 08:25 AM • permalink

  62. #61 WHAT??

    Posted by mehaul on 2008 01 19 at 08:38 AM • permalink

  63. #52, in regards to that catch.  Dhoni would have known that the ball did not carry due to the angle of the ball coming at the gloves.  Any player of a ball sport knows when it is a bump ball; whether they wish to admit it though is another matter.
    And now that our boys have lost one, I hope they get back to doing what they do so well, & that is winning, which, if we are all honest here, is what playing sport is all about. Losing is all part of life, but winning is so much better, although I don’t agree with many of the things that happen on sporting fields, & not just the cricket.

    Posted by Fummy on 2008 01 19 at 12:53 PM • permalink

  64. Look on the bright side BB77 - the Major League baseball season starts on February 27. Its right up your street with dosed up players, greaseballs, fights in the dugout, dirty tricks and cheating from everyone, from the ballboys to the groundstaff and featuring two teams of grown men playing rounders in pyjamas and hard hats. Where winning is everything and honour is for losers.

    #52 Apparently, you know as little about baseball, as you appear to about cricket.

    Posted by NY Angel on 2008 01 19 at 01:25 PM • permalink

  65. NY Angel

    Apologies for John A.  He cannot help it.  You see, he’s a cunt and snob.

    Posted by murph on 2008 01 19 at 02:05 PM • permalink

  66. #24, Habib:

    Well Done, Sir.
    Give the young pups hell. Or, since you’re going for training… don’t let the snot nosed idjits get you down!

    Posted by Grimmy on 2008 01 19 at 02:21 PM • permalink

  67. Heartiest contgratulations. Watch yer six, Habib, Sir.

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2008 01 19 at 02:38 PM • permalink

  68. By my Uncle Smithie’s spats, I never thought there was such a creature as a cricket troll…then I read John A.

    Posted by MentalFloss on 2008 01 19 at 02:40 PM • permalink

  69. Roebuck has almost gotten a free pass here.
    The man’s reputation is shredded by today’s play. The ABC, of course, said nothing about the imbalance of decisions that hurt Australia badly on day four.
    That Noble Leader of Men Anil Kumble, the Indian commentator Boghle said, had never been so over-animated as when he claimed the non-LBW decision against Symonds [with all the Indians who heard no wooden snick, nor two sounds]. Kumble looked like a gibbon on heat.  No comment from the others on how this compared with Ponting.

    Will Australia get Bowden banned?
    Will Ponting worry about the spirit of fair play of the Indians?
    Will Roebuck protest against Kumble’s antics?  Can his display of Triumphalism be tolerated by any civilised person?  etc, etc, etc.

    Posted by Barrie on 2008 01 19 at 06:06 PM • permalink

  70. #61, you would of course be referring to the drivel shat out by Spanky Roebuck this morning in The Age, about his idol, Anal Krumble, wouldn’t you? I fail to see how Indian flags in the middle of the pitch during the final minutes is not reflective of ‘rabid nationalism”, but mere animated exuberance by the monkey lovers. I guess Krumble was letting his team relax in the “spirit” of the moment, right John?

    Posted by CB on 2008 01 19 at 06:19 PM • permalink

  71. The ‘Wisdom of Roebuck’:

    ‘Australians regard the field of play as a separate place and become friendly the moment stumps have been drawn’.

    True enough, it IS a game, after all.

    ‘Englishmen are more inclined to regard the field as an extension of life and therefore take matters arising on the park more personally.’

    The embarrassing proof: Peter Roebuck.

    ‘Indians are bemused by the way opponents are prepared to show integrity in some areas and not in others.’

    Utter humbug. Since when were Indians The Great Example of consistency and equality, etc, etc?  Ever heard of the caste system, and the disdain many Indians have towards negroids, Mr Roebuck?
    ‘Diplomats are expected to understand and respect the cultures of other nations.
    The accidents of history and the identity of the participants means that cricket has become an almost ungovernable game. As much as anything, events at the SCG were founded upon mutual misunderstanding. No longer is it enough to seek the lowest common denominator. Clearly that has not worked.’

    True, but how do you explain the [continuing] hysterics and the racial hypocrisy of the Indian Board, Mr Roebuck?  IS that what you mean by LCD, or do you mean the Australians? 

    ‘The time has come to discover the highest common factor. In other words it is not enough nowadays to try to keep the peace. Cricket must develop a code chosen and applied by all parties in all countries. No longer the game of gentlemen and ruffians, always hard to tell apart, it must find a new approach understood by every player so that everyone speaks the same language and not merely use the same words.’

    So that wonderful multi-cultural mix is no good after all?  You contradict yourself again.
    So let the United Nations [ICC] make the rules for ‘peace’, then? 
    Demand that only English be used on the field, so all the umpires can operate your noble code?
    And while we’re at it, how about regulating the slander-mongering behaviour of commentators, Mr Roebuck? 
    We do take the issues of the field off it, don’t we?

    Posted by Barrie on 2008 01 19 at 06:51 PM • permalink

  72. Just on # 52 - when you say “the majority of Aussie supporters agreed with me”, are you referring to the internet surveys in which many Indian supporters voted, or are you relying on something valid?

    I do not know any Aussie cricket supporter who found any problem with the Australians’ conduct although I have met people who don’t follow cricket who have complained.

    As the Courier-Mail reported today (Sunday 20 January) the Australians have been had and need to get back quickly to doing what they did in the first and second tests.  There is no need to complain about the dodgy decisions - that is not our way - but we do need get back to playing to win.

    And as for Roebuck - it is now clear why he never played test cricket.  He has worn out his welcome in England and South Africa already; once again it is time for him to move to a new country and take his ideological baggage with him.

    Posted by johnt4103 on 2008 01 19 at 07:16 PM • permalink

  73. John A, you either have a problem with your vision or your sanity.

    Yes Pieterson walked,but the umpire also raised his finger. But, as others have pointed out, that’s all irrelevant - the umpire still has the right to revoke the decision.

    Do you accept that yet?

    So if Kumble, that great ‘leader of men’ had been the honest and gracious bloke Roebuck and others keep saying he is, he could easily have said to the umpire, “sorry, I take back my appeal - Symonds obviously hit it” and the umpire would then have been obliged to recall the batsman. (Though there’s no guarantee that Silly Billy would know the rules on that.)

    In fact, if Kumble had done exactly that, he would now be exulted around the world as the epitome of honesty and good grace. As it is, he merely proved the point most Australians have been making all week - that the way the AUstralian team plays is the same as the way everyone else plays, the only difference being is that we win.

    Posted by BB77 on 2008 01 19 at 08:08 PM • permalink

  74. I used to enjoy roebuck; I thought his fruity, camp, ultra-british, what-ho crap was tongue-in-cheek; me being a slow-learner aside, roebuck is now classifiable as a quintessential left egotist; he is obviously driven by an overwhelming self-loathing which is sublimated into a general hatred of the best: Western civilisation and in particular, the Australian cricket team. For roebuck, and all the other left bastards at fairfax etc, the governing motivation is to preserve their compensatory sense of superiority; the result is a tainted, self-flagellating narrative and support for every other set of values, however vile. Quite simply, roebuck, and the indian hypocrites, have ruined this summer’s cricket for me; and nude mud wrestling doesn’t start until after easter.

    Posted by cohenite on 2008 01 19 at 09:38 PM • permalink

  75. Onya Tim, I agree, where is the condemnation?
    not one idiot compere noted thatIndian celebrations were more jubilantly “overt” than the Aussie team’s at last match!

    Posted by Jazza on 2008 01 20 at 12:43 AM • permalink

  76. Just a small point in defense of Kumble - if Clown Bowden didn’t know that Symonds hit the ball first, then it is entirely possible that Kumble also wasn’t aware, as they would have had a similar view of the event. It wasn’t a huge edge from the bat, so I’m not going to get on Bowden’s case too much, it was just an honest mistake (there’s plenty else about Bowden that you can criticize). The other players around the bat may have heard/seen the edge, but I don’t blame them for appealing, I would have done the same.

    From a cricketing perspective, I also have a criticism of Ponting’s captaincy - I don’t think he handled Tait very well, witnessed by the utter lack of confidence he displayed when bowling at times. Tait’s a much better bowler than what we witnessed at Perth, and I for one would have liked to have seen him with the new ball in his hand trying to upset a few of the Indian batsmen. But it’s easy to be a Monday morning quarterback, to mix sporting analogies.

    Oh well, onto Adelaide and with the return of Hayden, I can’t see Australia losing.

    Posted by brucey bonus on 2008 01 20 at 08:24 PM • permalink

  77. brucy bonus, I tend to disagree and agree.

    First, I think Symonds LBW nick was was as solid as the caught behind in Sydney.

    It’s the hypocrisy that pisses me off.

    Symonds was honest in Sydney. Asked if he hit it, he said yes, and that he would take the good decisions with the bad - of which he’d had plenty.

    That seemed fair enough to me, but it caused a huge outcry - even the Australian managed an editorial condemning hime. (Not for not walking, but for honestly answering the question.)

    I agree on Ponting’s use of Tait - the same happened in England. After waiting all tour to get a chance, with Gillespie clearly finished, Tait spent most of the match on the boundary, never being called up to do what he does best.

    Posted by BB77 on 2008 01 21 at 09:10 PM • permalink

  78. You know, the NFL use to have this problem too.  It’s why they put in the ability to challenge a few calls per game for instant replay review.  Works pretty well; you rarely see a blown call decide a game anymore.

    Something for cricket to consider?

    Posted by TallDave on 2008 01 22 at 02:59 PM • permalink

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