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THERE IS SNOW

“There is no snow, there is no snow,” a local global warming expert recently insisted. In fact, there is:

The wintry change blanketed the state’s ski fields with snow. Yesterday morning Perisher reported seven centimetres of new falls, while Charlotte Pass recorded 11.

There’s snow in Buenos Aires, too. It’s snowball warming!

Posted by Tim B. on 07/10/2007 at 10:21 AM
  1. Ah, but snow in Buenos Aires IS direct evidence of gerbil warmongering….....

    Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 07 10 at 10:47 AM • permalink

  2. Don Surber has a good, brief rundown on the Gore effect. Al, however, laughs in the face of adversity.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 11:08 AM • permalink

  3. That pesky global warming hit last night here in Germany so hard I had to close the windows and break-out an extra blanket.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2007 07 10 at 11:19 AM • permalink

  4. Wearing muk-luks takes the sexy out of Tango.

    Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 07 10 at 11:41 AM • permalink

  5. ...freezing air from Antarctica collided with a moisture-laden low pressure system ...

    The freezing air must have, along with the pebnguins, been trying to escape the warming Antarctic.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 10 at 12:16 PM • permalink

  6. pebnguins  . damn Shannon Theory!

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 10 at 12:21 PM • permalink

  7. If we have an ice age instead of a catastrophic roasting, can we blame the Glueball Worriers for taking too much CO2 out of the atmosphere?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 07 10 at 01:40 PM • permalink

  8. #4 HB:
    Nah, the chicas sudamericanas would figure out a way to make Burqas sexy. This just gives them a chance to wear spike-heeled boots and tight sweaters.

    Posted by brett_l on 2007 07 10 at 02:33 PM • permalink

  9. You’ll note that Tim doesn’t cover the overall picture whereto global warming. Why? Because that wouldn’t be funny.

    BTW, the August 2007 Analog has an editorial by Dr Schmitz in which he points out one factor we tend to overlook. Namely, even if we did reduce greenhouse gas emission to the degree thought necessary, the world’s steadily improving economy and consequential rise in the world wide standard of living would negate that in a generation or so.

    So here we have people making all sorts of noise about how we have to do something about global warming, making it into something of—- since we’re talking about leftoids here—- a jihad, no thought being given to the problem of adapting to the changes. (There may come a day when thongs are business attire in Darwin.)

    One last thing. While you in Australia are getting heavy rains in your south-east, we in America’s south-west are experiencing lower than normal precipitation. Which is the pattern you can expect in a la Niña event. In an el Niño event the situation would be reversed. Some things are just reliable.

    Posted by mythusmage on 2007 07 10 at 04:11 PM • permalink

  10. “It’s BA-A-A-A-A-K!”

    Richard Neville (aka “The Loon that Wouldn’t Leave”) has a new site:
    http://www.homepagedaily.com/

    Posted by mojo on 2007 07 10 at 04:15 PM • permalink

  11. #10 Mojo: Who the hell is that goober?

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 04:31 PM • permalink

  12. Paco:  the Nuttah from Down Undah!
    http://www.whackingday.com/permarch_jul04/8jul04.htm#nev

    Posted by mojo on 2007 07 10 at 04:47 PM • permalink

  13. Hey, I bet you didn’t know that Hollywood folk are just like us.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 05:34 PM • permalink

  14. first snow in Buenos Aires in 90 years… here in Dallas, we’re having the coolest wettest summer in about 100 years…the wild thing is, this hockey-stick extrapolates out to New York being under 50 feet of frozen water before long…thank gore we can adjust the temp with a little carbon output.

    Posted by paulris on 2007 07 10 at 05:41 PM • permalink

  15. #12: Thanks, mojo. So, among other things, Neville is yet another fifth columnist who looks at the Islamic world and sees nothing but victims of western imperialism. And, BTW, he’s not only another lefty blogger, but one with an exceptionally bad case of logorrhea; his prose rushes over the page like water from a burst fire hydrant. A tip for Mr. Neville: the wholesale use of words does not necessarily add up to an idea.

    On the other hand, I was delighted with the whackingday site. Good stuff.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 05:56 PM • permalink

  16. “This is the kind of weather phenomenon that comes along every 100 years,” forecaster Hector Ciappesoni told La Nacion newspaper. “It is very difficult to predict.”

    The snow followed a bitter cold snap in late May that saw subfreezing temperatures, the coldest in 40 years in Buenos Aires. That cold wave contributed to an energy crisis and 23 deaths from exposure.

    We had a toewn in qld reporting its coldest July day EVER recorded.  According to the alarmist, by saying EVER, we mean thousands of years.  But we sceptics know this just means coldest day ON RECORD, ie about 100 years or so.

    1 day we’ll wake up and instead of praying for rain, we’ll be praying for heat!

    Posted by peter m on 2007 07 10 at 06:05 PM • permalink

  17. #15: Holy cow! This guy Neville is my nominee for the Worst Poet in History.

    “Dancing in the street, everyone’s singing
    Birds are chirping, the fish are grinning,
    Buds are blooming, our heads are spinning
    The end of Howard … is a new beginning”

    Come to think of it . . . wasn’t this bilge quoted on Tim’s site before? That “fish are grinning” bit sounds vaguely familiar, the kind of thing that is just so completely bad that it stays with you . . . like heartburn or herpes.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 06:16 PM • permalink

  18. #16 peter m

    Just remember.  100 is almost 200, which is almost 300, which is practically a thousand!

    Posted by Room 237 on 2007 07 10 at 06:55 PM • permalink

  19. #9 “There may come a day when thongs are business attire in Darwin.”

    Believe me Myth, these thongs already are.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 07 10 at 06:58 PM • permalink

  20. The ABC plans to give us 51 minutes of the GGWS, complete with a panel having a half time brawl.

    Last night, a 730 report yarn about some well meaning fellow who is kayaking from Brisbane to Adelaide and had to walk most of the way cause of climate change. And a big drought.

    Then along come carbon cops, who advocate tenants installing ceiling insulation. Landlords must be thrilled.

    Then Foreign Correspondent’s Mark Corcoran, who finds that the people up in the high cold Bolivian desert are running out of water, but have a big dam and a river and have to survive on 400mm (20 inches) of rain a year. Most of Oz gets by on much less than that. And it’s our fault cause the greenhouse gasses blow over there and cause a big bugger up. The El Ninio/La Nina caper was not mentioned as possibly being a factor.

    So we will get about an hour of the alternative view via the GGWS, which the panel will attempt to cut the piss out of.

    Then the ABC will resume normal programming.

    Posted by Pickles on 2007 07 10 at 07:29 PM • permalink

  21. paco

    If you really want to have your senses assaulted visit his website.
    The poor empty ball-sack of a man was famous briefly during the 60’s because he (and a few other ratbags) won an obscenity case in the UK.
    Since then its all been downhill for the old scrote.
    dick by name, dick by nature.

    The only highlight of his career

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 10 at 07:32 PM • permalink

  22. #20
    SMH: Scientist buckets climate program

    Hope it rates its arse off - that’ll be news to the programming dept!

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  23. Anybody wearing budgy smugglers, is clearing looking in the wrong place for snow.

    Posted by Admonkeystrator on 2007 07 10 at 08:26 PM • permalink

  24. Snow in Australia!!

    Alarum!!

    Oh, no, we’re all going to die. Runs around in circles waving arms in the air ... oh, wait a minute: is that bad or good?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 10 at 08:29 PM • permalink

  25. #17
    Neville, like Flannery, is a ‘futurologist’ ...

    IIRC, Neville thought that Google Earth was real-time and so a nasty spy tool - don the tin-foil hats!

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 08:33 PM • permalink

  26. skeeter—not the thongs I would go to Australia looking for, yobbo…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 10 at 08:34 PM • permalink

  27. #23
    Unless they’re smuggling crack ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 08:35 PM • permalink

  28. #13 Paco, who said “Rich people are not like us”?

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 10 at 08:36 PM • permalink

  29. #22
    Has TGGWS been aired in North America as yet?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 08:37 PM • permalink

  30. Hey, I thought thongs were business attire in Darwin.

    Oh, different business. OK, shh.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 10 at 08:40 PM • permalink

  31. #19
    Borat’s thong looks like a safety hazard.

    Inspired by Larry King?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 08:43 PM • permalink

  32. Claims ... that natural forces, not human action, caused global warming were wrong, said the principal research scientist at CSIRO Marine and Atmospheric Research, Kevin Hennessy.

    Can someone down there have time to research exactly how much money this guy gets for his department under the name of “Climate Change”.

    He is saying” “Don’t listen to the evil people who will take my funding away”.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 07 10 at 08:45 PM • permalink

  33. #28: The actual quote is from F. Scott Fitzgerald: “The rich are different from you and me.” To which Hemingway memorably replied, “Yes, they have more money.”

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 08:53 PM • permalink

  34. #21 Mojo & Frollicking: I have greatly enjoyed my foray into Neville Land. His stuff is so astonishingly, resoundingly idiotic, so reeking of the greencheese beloved of the Peropteryx lunae, that he should be served up every now and then as red meat to our lean and hungry commenters. He’s like Web Diary, only less!

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 09:09 PM • permalink

  35. #33 paco:
    ...and arrogantly stuffed into The Snows of Kilimanjaro. Though for my money, probably some of the most honest stuff he ever wrote.

    ‘Course I’m partial to Raymond Chandler’s novel Farewell, My Lovely in part b/c Marlowe keeps calling the dirty cop Hemingway. When asked why he says something to the effect of “Because you think if you repeat yourself often enough you sound important.” And, of course, the descriptive sentence: “He stood out like a tarantula on a slice of angel food cake.” Nobody could ever touch Chandler in the strange and beautiful simile department.

    Posted by brett_l on 2007 07 10 at 09:41 PM • permalink

  36. #35: Nobody could ever touch Chandler in the strange and beautiful simile department.

    Amen, brother. He’s my favorite when it come to detective stories, and to tell you the truth, I read him mostly for the dialogue, not the plot. His stories could be about a missing dog or a stolen lawn mower for all I care; just give me those blondes “to make a bishop kick a hole in a stainglass window”, and those souless killers “with eyes the color of a drink of water”.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 09:57 PM • permalink

  37. #22
    Our Auntie’s National Radio network has been promoting TGGWS as something of controversy to be discussed rather than the let the program stand on its merits.

    Isn’t this a flagrant public display of bias at our Auntie?
    Whatever happened to the much vaunted Oz ‘fair go’ (= free speech) FFS?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 10:12 PM • permalink

  38. #20 Pickles:

    The ABC’s cut The Great Global Warming Swindle to 51 minutes? On my DVD (thanks, BrettMcS!) it runs to about 75. A third of the whole thing excised!

    I wonder which bits they cut…

    Posted by EdwardM on 2007 07 10 at 10:12 PM • permalink

  39. O/T:
    Kev the grocer

    Kevni reckons veges and fruits are over-priced ... that’ll be news to the Left!

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  40. #38Ed M

    Yes that is a worry, at least the DVD provided by Brett McS had been copied and sent all over the place.

    Just hope they leave the part with the co founder of greenpeace and the “let’s ban chlorine” quest.

    Posted by Pickles on 2007 07 10 at 10:21 PM • permalink

  41. #38: I wonder which bits they cut…

    My guess would be the scenes featuring Al Gore hunting bison from a helicopter with a .50 cal. machine gun, for the purpose of collecting the fixin’s for a six-month supply of oxtail soup.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 10:22 PM • permalink

  42. #41
    Or the Gore interviews with Indycar team owner and talk show host, Dave Letterman, saying that Al had been discussing climate change with Dave for 20 years, in discussing Al’s Assault on Rationality.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 10 at 10:34 PM • permalink

  43. On the other hand, I was delighted with the whackingday site. Good stuff.

    Tex is a pistol. One of my faves. Almost Habib-like in his colorful insults.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 07 10 at 10:38 PM • permalink

  44. ; .. “.+..  ;;  :  : ****

    .#@  **  ** ..  ^  :::;;;  :’‘

    ‘’;+8”“;  :;  “”;;  ‘’‘


    Looking at the cosmos while Snowflakes fall by 1.618 For Sale $12,900 buy me buy me.. or barter with me..

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 07 10 at 10:45 PM • permalink

  45. #43 Dave: He is great. I’m astonished that I haven’t come across him before, but I’ve got him bookmarked now.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 10:59 PM • permalink

  46. Paco—yes, but he wants to starve all the poor waitresses…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 10 at 11:02 PM • permalink

  47. #39 - “Federal Opposition Leader Kevin Rudd says Labor will tackle rising grocery prices if it is elected to government.”

    Kevni probably has in mind Mugabe’s solution of simply ordering supermarkets, grocers, butchers etc to halve their prices.  Shopkeepers who don’t comply are jailed.

    Price Cuts Throw Zimbabwe Into Chaos.

    Posted by Ubique on 2007 07 10 at 11:05 PM • permalink

  48. Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., demonstrates, once again, that the family tree is aswarm with bagworms, root rot and nematodes. Global-warming denialists = traitors.

    Posted by paco on 2007 07 10 at 11:16 PM • permalink

  49. http://bussorah.blogspot.com/

    Guys a very good reason to support Israel and garbled worming-enjoy-wish it was mwe

    Posted by Hillyminx on 2007 07 10 at 11:26 PM • permalink

  50. Weather Update from sunny California:

    It’s cold, it’s overcast, and it just started raining.

    Cold and rain in July is pretty unheard of in this neck of the woods.

    Yet, more evidence of Global Warming, I’m sure.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 07 10 at 11:26 PM • permalink

  51. 1.618, it’s very nice, but have you got something the unemployed art lover can afford? Something in the cup-of-coffee-and-piece-of-cake bracket?

    On the subject of things that fall from the sky…

    Ash was talking about large round objects last night. Could this be one of hers?

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 10 at 11:29 PM • permalink

  52. 38: EdwardM

    The ABC state that the producer has himself edited the footage to remove some incorrect use of graphs based on older data.  They have not interfered with it, as far as I can ascertain.

    I’ll give ABC some credit for showing it, but they are so far behind overall it barely dents their deficit!

    Posted by peter m on 2007 07 10 at 11:44 PM • permalink

  53. 51/ Okies, for you ..


    “wrecking Balls” by 1.618 For sale @1.95

    ...        O
    ...        OOO
    ...        OOOOOO
    ...        OOOO
    ...        OO
              O     boink*

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 07 10 at 11:56 PM • permalink

  54. Whispers to Swinish… This one is for free for you Sir Swinish Capitalist.

    Posted by 1.618 on 2007 07 10 at 11:58 PM • permalink

  55. You are a sweetie, 1.6…

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 07 11 at 12:28 AM • permalink

  56. #48
    RFK Jr: The Assault on <strike>Reason</strike> Treason

    RFK Jr on the AGW bandwagon - who in their right mind would board a vehicle with a (as yet undead) Kennedy at the wheel?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 11 at 12:46 AM • permalink

  57. #43 Dave: He is great. I’m astonished that I haven’t come across him before, but I’ve got him bookmarked now.

    He’s an occasional commenter here.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 07 11 at 12:49 AM • permalink

  58. O/T
    ShrinkWrapped has an interesting post regarding the Mideast and the Ides of July.
    Slouching Toward Bethlehem

    Some highlight samples:
    Hezballah is threatening to set up an independent state in Lebanon;

    Syria has demanded that all its citizens return from Lebanon before the 15th.

    There are some UN reports regarding hot spots in the Lebanon frontier and the report on the assassination of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri are due between the 15th and the 17th.

    Turkey is currently wobbling between a military coup or full fall to islamofascism. The military is using the threat from Iraqi Kurd area as a means to drum up support.

    There’s much chatter in Syrian intel about an Israeli attack imminent, and much chatter in Israeli intel about the same from Syria.
    Israel has recently concluded wargames on a situation involving a multi front invasion/war.

    More signs of North Korean and Iranian confluence.

    And much of the world, especially the arab/muslim parts believe that our own traitors in our media and congress have America castrated enough to take us out of the picture.

    Lots of links, much better explaining on the issues, etc at the link above.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 07 11 at 01:34 AM • permalink

  59. #58 Grimmy

    Situation normal then?

    Posted by Pickles on 2007 07 11 at 01:44 AM • permalink

  60. #58:

    Any word on oil futures prices?  They seem a better bet than anthing on the election / sport you could name.  The whole middle east is a powder keg on a burning oil well balanced on a gas tanker stage and a wider war seems inevitable.

    What’s the bet Bush gets the blame?  Actually I just found an even surer bet!

    Posted by peter m on 2007 07 11 at 01:47 AM • permalink

  61. Fairfax are advertising this Sunday’s Sun Herald on radio.
    They are featuring, I kid you not….

    “Get the facts on Global warming…” etc

    This is done without apparent irony. Get the facts from Fairfax.
    They’re kidding. Made my day though.

    Janet Albrechtson has a brilliant item in today’s Oz that actually DOES give the facts on whatever it is (I forget, GW, CC?... who knows?).

    Click here for story.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 07 11 at 01:49 AM • permalink

  62. #47
    Kevni to downsize the grocery sector?
    Downsizing is the only physical achievement Kevni has effected in his entire career?
    Creating clientelle for the missus?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 11 at 02:12 AM • permalink

  63. #59, Pickles:

    Sounds like it, yeah. I know this can be interpreted as me being some bloody minded weirdo but I do hope this means the issues in the mid east are finally combining in pace and timing to bring that boil to a head asap.

    The longer it waits, the more ground our own traitors will have gained and the less capable we will be in responding. Also, the longer it waits the more the capability gap closes and that means more dead on our side of the fight.

    It has to happen eventually. I do hope it is sooner than later because later we may have already been brought to our knees and bound hand and foot by those born among us that adhere to the cause of the enemy.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 07 11 at 02:20 AM • permalink

  64. #63 Grimmy

    I agree that something has to give, the pressure is building every day.

    However, I do get the sense that the whole “exploding doctors” thing has woken a few people up to the seriousness of the situation.

    Acquaintances who have been saying “we deserve it” etc etc for a number of years, suddenly seem more worried about the situation than I am.

    Don’t worry Grimster, “she’ll be right mate.”

    We shall overcome, we always do.

    Posted by Pickles on 2007 07 11 at 02:56 AM • permalink

  65. #50

    Which part of California? In these parts we’ve got 13 of the 15 climate zones. (And we’re maxed out on political corruption.:) )

    Posted by mythusmage on 2007 07 11 at 03:11 AM • permalink

  66. #33, paco,
    Hemingway was joking of course.
    From ‘Stork Club’ by Ralf Blumenthal:
    “One night in 1940, back in New York, Hemingway had grandiosely tried to pay his bar bill at the Stork with a $100,000 royalty check he had gotten for the screen rights to For Whom the Bell Tolls. (A hundred thousand dollars in 1940 would be $1.2 million today.) Billingsley shook his head; no way he could cash that check, not then. But if Hemingway could wait until closing time ... Then, amazingly, Billingsley did cash it, although it is hard to imagine how, with the club then grossing —officially, anyway —by Billingsley’s account, $3,500 a night. Now Billingsley needed a favor back. Could Hemingway recommend a good lawyer in Key West? There was this Stork Club there ...”.

    Posted by chrisgo on 2007 07 11 at 04:02 AM • permalink

  67. “Which part of California?”

    Oakland hills.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 07 11 at 04:07 AM • permalink

  68. #51 Swinish, that one certainly wasn’t one of mine. I’m not that big… yet.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 07 11 at 04:08 AM • permalink

  69. #61 Bonmot

    Thanks for that reminder about the Sun-Herald Poster Collection all about Climate Change

    I’ve got last weeks poster right here

    From the poster which also maps where temperatures will rise and by how much:

    Main Facts

    ....Climate change is largely due to human activity which increases the concentration of greenhouse gaes. These gases include carbon dioxide, methane and nitrous oxide, which are produced by modern industry, agriculture and the combustion of coal, oil and natural gas…....

    And:

    Causes and Effects

    The burning of fossil fuels, deforestation, livestock farming and rubbish dumps all contribute to increasing the concentration of greenhouse gases that trap heat. This causes the Arctic to warm up, reducing the ice density due to melting, and adding large quantities of fresh water to the oceans, altering their salinity….

    Can’t wait for this weeks poster!

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 07 11 at 04:30 AM • permalink

  70. #69 aussie
    Causes and Effects
    The burning of fossil fuels, deforestation, livestock farming and rubbish dumps all contribute to increasing the concentration of greenhouse gases that trap heat.

    Beautiful. Let’s analyse that.

    The burning of fossil fuels (gives us electricity and transport)

    Deforestation (gives us newspapers (did I just say that…? LOL)

    Livestock farming (yeah! gives us food! Lets give a great big ‘Yea’ for food)

    Rubbish dumps (er, like what are we supposed to do with the stuff? Dump it on one of Al Gore’s Estates?).

    Gee, all that makes sense to me!

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 07 11 at 04:45 AM • permalink

  71. #39 egg_, I laughed when I heard about that - that ells me that poor Kevni is scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a way to combat JWH.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 07 11 at 06:27 AM • permalink

  72. Tuesday night program on the failing snows in Bolivia, soon [2030?] to mean no water for locals in the Andes.
    Presented of course as Another Horror of GW, but one little line in the program gave the whole game away:
    THESE GLACIERS HAVE BEEN RECEDING FOR 300 YEARS!
    Haven’t they noticed until now?

    Posted by Barrie on 2007 07 11 at 07:17 AM • permalink

  73. #70 Bonmot

    Yes - but it all sounds so terrible! Rubbish dumps - oh no! Burning fossil fuels - dreadful!

    I’m a bit amazed by the Sun Herald’s assumption that it’s readers are stupid

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 07 11 at 07:30 AM • permalink

  74. #73 me

    This proves I’m either stupid or tired and emotional - The Apostrophe Man in “it’s readers” - a big no no

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 07 11 at 07:32 AM • permalink

  75. #51, 1.618, that one is funny.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 07 11 at 08:35 AM • permalink

  76. #71 Nilk
    Yeah, scraping the bottom of the pork barrel ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 07 11 at 10:34 AM • permalink

  77. #67

    I’m down south of that monument to civic irresponsibility, LA. Way south. We’ve got the Marines at Camp Pendleton to defend us against ravening hordes of LA real estate agents.

    Posted by mythusmage on 2007 07 11 at 05:11 PM • permalink

  78. Next thing we know he’ll be telling us there is no spoon.

    Posted by charles austin on 2007 07 11 at 11:26 PM • permalink

  79. “we in America’s south-west are experiencing lower than normal precipitation. “

    Huh?  I live in Tucson, Arizona.  What’s normal?  The current rainfall is well within historical variation.  Looking at a broader geologic record, for the current latitude and longitude, we see more long periods of extremely low rainfall (much lower than we have seen here in Arizona in the past year) than we do periods of relatively higher rainfall.  Little rainfall is the norm in the desert.  The geologic record shows this.

    Posted by Marnee on 2007 07 12 at 08:03 PM • permalink

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