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THE PARIS THAT ATE CARS

Anti-car activists in Paris continue their war against wheels:

In the north-eastern suburb of Aulnay-sous-Bois, gangs of youths set fire to a Renault car dealership and incinerated at least a dozen cars, a supermarket and a local gymnasium ...

Bands of youths forced a team of France-2 television reporters out of their car in the suburb of Le Blanc Mesnil, then flipped the vehicle and set it on fire.

They don’t care for public transport, either. Or, for some reason, synagogues:

A week of riots in poor neighborhoods outside Paris gained dangerous new momentum Thursday, with youths shooting at police and firefighters and attacking trains and symbols of the French state ...

Unrest flared for an eighth straight night Thursday, though scaled down from previous says. Young men fire buckshot at riot police vehicles in Neuilly-sur-Marne, while a group of 30 to 40 harassed police near a synagogue further east in Stains ...

That piece, in The Guardian, claims a total of 165 cars have been torched throughout the Paris metro area, and another 40 incinerated in regions north-west. They really hate those cars! In other car-related news, Danish cartoonists are under attack:

A Danish experiment in testing “the limits of freedom of speech” has backfired—or succeeded spectacularly—after newspaper cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed provoked an outcry.

Thousands of Muslims have taken to the streets in protest at the caricatures, the newspaper that published them has received death threats and two of its cartoonists have been forced into hiding ...
 
The ambassadors of 11 Muslim countries called on Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the prime minister, to take “necessary steps” against the “defamation of Islam”.

Back to matters Parisian. No Pasaran is helpfully covering French media reports:

Rioters are now shooting at riot cops with real bullets. The French preSS is mystified by this development, real bullets having been banned by Ripoublika Franska decree many moons ago. The French preSS is also mystified that rioting exists at all, happiness and joyful brotherhood having been declared by decree (and redeclared endlessly) to be the general condition of the people. The latest theory by the French preSS on the causes of this violence has something to do with the needless provoking, insulting, and humiliating of a certain portion of the population that would otherwise have been perfectly happy and law abiding.

Henrik at Viking Observer is performing a similar role with the Danish press. More from No Pasaran:

Young French bloggers are spreading inter-suburban rumors and encouragement through the numerous Skyblogs that sprout up like poisonous mushrooms.

Money quotes from these rising French blogstars: “screw the cops”, “too many brothers who did not live their life are in the cemetery”, “the cops will pay for this. If you need us in Clichy [suburb where the current riots started] we can come over. Gagny [an other shithole suburb] is just next door”, “Clichy guy needs help to screw the cops”, “May God bless France because the war has begun”, and of course the usual rubbish about Allah and paradise and the like.

War? As in ... civil war? Paul McGeough, call your copyright lawyers—the Guardian is stealing your bit: “Fires of ‘civil war’ erupt in Paris”.

(Much thanks to Tom Pechinski)

UPDATE. More on this from Daily Demarche.

UPDATE II. 400 cars burned! Yet French TV leads with the latest on a month-long transit strike in Marseille.

UPDATE III. Now Mark Steyn moves in on McGeough’s turf: “This, I think, is the start of a long Eurabian civil war we’re witnessing here.”

Posted by Tim B. on 11/04/2005 at 06:00 AM
  1. In the sidebar to the Telegraph.co.uk article about events in Denmark, there’s an advertisement for a muslim+muslim internet dating service, at the site it is stated in part:

    Our service is designed for Muslims that are seeking new friends or a monogamous heterosexual relationship. We cannot accept requests for 2nd wives as polygamy is illegal by our national laws

    Posted by IanMc on 2005 11 04 at 07:53 AM • permalink

  2. If these riots were happening in the U.S. we’d be seeing a hell of a lot more coverage, particularly on the ABC; and we’d be seeing the likes of Mark Simkin and Jill Colgin blaming it all on the war in Iraq!

    Posted by Brian on 2005 11 04 at 08:05 AM • permalink

  3. They really hate those cars!

    The Greens would love their commitment to the ridding the global-warming scourge of petrol burning cars!

    Posted by JamesP on 2005 11 04 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  4. Why Assimilate when it is more fun to Incinerate?
    Is it fair to incarcerate the inchoate?
    So many vexing questions for the civil liberties people to mull over.
    In those suburbs civil liberties are off the menu, and it is not the fault of the police, terrorism laws, or the product of an uncivil society. I am not expecting an epiphany of the msm just yet. This might yet be retold, spun and re-presented as all the West’s Fault.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 11 04 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  5. Since they are burning cars, this war IS all about oil.

    Quick, call Cindy Sheehan!!!!!

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 11 04 at 08:23 AM • permalink

  6. Gee, thank God Christians and Jews don’t react this way to defamation. On SBS this Sunday viewers will be treated to one of those ‘what the church doesn’t want you to know’ type documentaries on Jesus, the same stuff viewers of the ABC’s Compass program are frequently treated to, particularly at sensitive times of year like Easter and Christmas.
    Last Easter one of the fundamental tenets of Christianity was challenged in the documentary, ‘Did Christ really Die?”, and at Christmas the Compass program suggested that Mary conceived the Christ child after she was   raped by a Roman soldier! Jews copped it with the series, ‘It Ain’t Necessarily So’, where their faith was trashed. Every Ramadan, on the other hand, viewers are told with Stalin-like propaganda, about the glory of Islam. I put it down to the Rushdie/Van Gogh effect.

    Posted by Brian on 2005 11 04 at 08:36 AM • permalink

  7. The Sydney Morning Herald’s story on the French rioting today does not mention the words “Muslim” or “Islamic” once.

    Posted by Susan Norton on 2005 11 04 at 08:46 AM • permalink

  8. Hmm, when will the MSM begin to refer to them as ‘insurgents’?

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 11 04 at 09:06 AM • permalink

  9. “Bands of Youth”.  Didn’t they open for “Flock of Seagulls” in the 80’s?

    I hear their act was a riot.

    Posted by joe bagadonuts on 2005 11 04 at 09:11 AM • permalink

  10. Synagogues, do tell! The unhappy JOOS filled with hate of the west are threatening their synagogues. Must be. It certainly not the Muslims, as can be verified by previous posts to this blog on this subject. The Religion of Peace would never indulge in such scummy activities.

    Posted by stats on 2005 11 04 at 09:12 AM • permalink

  11. Evidently, Allah is incapable of handling matters of defamation and requires earthly hands to put things in order.  Somehow, he is transmitting his will to endless hoards of flag (and car) burning monkeys in order to bring peace and tranquility to the blessed.  Surely, they will achieve this peace if enough explosives can be distributed to the martyrs who can gloriously usher in a tidal wave of infidel blood, thus bathing the world in a holy crimson Jacuzzi.  Once the entire world lies in rubble, is covered in infidel bodies, and has been rid of anything non-muslim, THEN they can focus on killing each other for their respective false interpretations of Mohammed’s prophesies.  Last one standing wins.  Let the games begin.  Gentlemen, start your engines (then promptly flip the car and light it on fire…. If its French).

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2005 11 04 at 09:16 AM • permalink

  12. O/T question.  What’s the ‘MSM’referred to in Mr Bingley’s post?  I’d like to sling orf at ‘em too, but what does it stand for?

    Posted by Olrence on 2005 11 04 at 09:33 AM • permalink

  13. It means many things
    1) Manipulating Socialist Media
    2) Michael Shithead Moore
    3) Mindless Spewing Marsupials
    4) Money Sniffing Mongers
    you get the picture…

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2005 11 04 at 09:37 AM • permalink

  14. Erm, righto Texas Bob.  Thanks.

    Posted by Olrence on 2005 11 04 at 09:42 AM • permalink

  15. No less than 500 cars, says the London Times.

    Posted by C.L. on 2005 11 04 at 09:50 AM • permalink

  16. From the same Times report #15

    According to one report, a disabled woman was doused in petrol and set on fire when she was unable to escape a bus under attack in the northern suburb of Sevran. She was rescued by the driver and is being treated for severe burns, according to state prosecutors.

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2005 11 04 at 09:55 AM • permalink

  17. “MainStream Media” is probably the most common translation Olrence, but Tex’ definitions are all applicable as well.

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 11 04 at 09:59 AM • permalink

  18. What’s the ‘MSM’referred to in Mr Bingley’s post?

    Olrence, it means “MainStream Media”.  Unfortunately, I can’t help you on any Aussie slang words.  Strine?  Personally, I think the Aussies make them up as they post.  Gee I do hope my use of “spiv”, “wanker”, “complete and utter tosser” and “sod off swampy” is legitimate.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 04 at 10:03 AM • permalink

  19. These riots have come in handy for the bloghead… otherwise he might have to turn and look at W’s plummeting support across the politcal spectrum in the US. Will you blogsheep be the last loyal creeps standing when the rest of America turns out the lights on the most incompentant, damaging and corrupt presidency ever?

    And when Ayatollah Sistani sets up shop over the next couple of months, how will things look then for your fantasies yankee-inspired democracy sweeping the middle east? You idiots have bought this administration’s line down to the last censored paragraph.

    You know how to play politics to win, but your on the wrong side of the argument..

    Posted by Miranda Divide on 2005 11 04 at 10:03 AM • permalink

  20. #16 And the burning of those two Taliban fighters in Afghanistan was a ‘desecration’ to Muslims, we were assured. It’s more pious to burn someone while they’re alive apparently.

    Posted by C.L. on 2005 11 04 at 10:04 AM • permalink

  21. #17. Thanx.  Just back from a look outside for marsupials taken ill (can’t be too careful).
    So yairs, that makes more sense.

    Posted by Olrence on 2005 11 04 at 10:04 AM • permalink

  22. Er, as W is not eligible for re-election the lights get turned out in a couple of years regardless.

    But we’ll have enough light from the burning of Paris to get us to the fridge for a few more brewskis.

    Thanks for your concern.

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 11 04 at 10:12 AM • permalink

  23. You’re really on to something Miranda. Bush is going to have a hard time winning a third term.

    Steyn speaking to Hewitt on this (see Tim’s link):

    HH: And finally, after the week that was, is Bush on the upswing in your opinion, Mark Steyn?

    MS: I think so. I mean, he is a provocative figure. You know, someone said oh well, you look at Clinton at the height of the Monica thing, and his approval ratings were 55%. Bush is only 40%. Well, Bush is a controversial figure, in the sense that he wants to accomplish something. Obviously, if you like Clinton, and I don’t know what Clinton accomplished? Did he…was it federally mandated bicycling helmet legislation?

    HH: Something like that.

    MS: Something like that. I mean, if you don’t want to accomplish anything, of course you’ll keep your ratings in the 60’s.

    Posted by C.L. on 2005 11 04 at 10:12 AM • permalink

  24. And thanx Wronwright, I shouldn’t need any assistance with local argot.

    Posted by Olrence on 2005 11 04 at 10:12 AM • permalink

  25. Les poulets coming home to le roost?

    Posted by chinesearithmetic on 2005 11 04 at 10:26 AM • permalink

  26. You know, as bad a New Orleans was, even with a Category 5 hurricane hitting it and with the levies breaching flooding the entire city and environs, I would still take that, gladly, over what the French are suffering through right now. 

    We can repair the damage caused by a natural disaster.  Can the French repair the damage to their society caused by the alienation of an increasingly more populous and angry segment of their people?

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 04 at 10:29 AM • permalink

  27. Will you blogsheep be the last loyal creeps standing when the rest of America turns out the lights on the most incompentant, damaging and corrupt presidency ever?

    Miranda baby, Jimmy Carter was decades ago.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 04 at 10:32 AM • permalink

  28. Miranda,

    Damn, I didn’t know that the weed in Oz was halucination inducing.  Must be some mighty fine stuff indeed!

    Posted by joe bagadonuts on 2005 11 04 at 10:39 AM • permalink

  29. The problem that the MainStream Media is having reporting these riots boils down to the fact that they are used to telling us who the Good Guys and the Bad Guys are, which side to cheer for, and which side to hiss and boo. In this case, both sides are on the Good Guy side of their template.

    The MSM face a dilemma here, not unlike the environmentalist who came upon an endangered animal eating an endangered plant.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2005 11 04 at 10:49 AM • permalink

  30. I think T-SAW has had a sex change.

    Posted by jic on 2005 11 04 at 10:56 AM • permalink

  31. Whoops, my mistake, Miranda Divide has been around for a while.

    Posted by jic on 2005 11 04 at 11:03 AM • permalink

  32. er…That’s “you’re on the wrong side ms divide-or should we call you the Divide Miss M..?
    Apologies for halting you in mid shriek..

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 04 at 11:15 AM • permalink

  33. 36-The abc/bbc historical programme on last night was a typical example.
    Edward the iv was ACTUALLY fathered by an anonymous English archer,was illegitimate and therefore the entire royal family of Britain are all illegitimate don’t ya know.
    and Richard the third,the Plantaganet DID murder his two little nephews because of that,but he was really a lovely chap before that. Poor old Robin Hood was another target(er topic) and he was really a psychopathic killer who didn’t rob the rich to give to the poor…and Maid Marion wasn’t his girlfriend either.Drake didn’t really defeat the Spanish Armada it was actually the Gulf Stream what done them in.
    Boaddicea copped it in the neck a few weeks back - she WASN’T what she seemed. etc etc.
    Message received - if you’re British you’ve nothing to be proud of…AND you make up stories as well.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 04 at 11:27 AM • permalink

  34. Whats the bet Steyn and others get criticised by the left for using the term ‘civil war’ as an over reaction?

    I think its our turn to use it for a while, dont you think?

    Posted by Nic on 2005 11 04 at 11:29 AM • permalink

  35. Somebody was trolling a France-themed thread over at Roger Simon’s with whinges about Dubya’s approval numbers, too. Must be difficult for trolls to spin this if they need to scrape the bottom of the barrel like that.

    And I guess we can revive the Blogparrot nickname for Mirander.

    Posted by PW on 2005 11 04 at 11:31 AM • permalink

  36. Or maybe Mirander’s a blogdog. Much like Pavlov’s dogs, she conditioned in such a way that any post on Iraq or Muslims gets a predictable reaction from her. Ouah-ouah!

    Posted by PW on 2005 11 04 at 11:36 AM • permalink

  37. Somebody was trolling a France-themed thread over at Roger Simon’s with whinges about Dubya’s approval numbers, too.

    I think we can assume the left considers the riots in Paris to be good news for Bush (or for the defense of western civilization), considering the lengths to which they’re going to ignore them and distract from them.

    I mean poll numbers? C’mon, isn’t there anything meaningful you can bitch about?

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 11 04 at 11:42 AM • permalink

  38. I surfed in vain on network news last night, searching for news of Paris’s troubles.  Finally got a seven second one-line blurb on ABC (American ABC, not Aussie ABC) about “youths rioting in Paris”.  That was it.  Does it seem that the MSM is ignoring this thing?  I mean, come on, what chief editor, CEO, anchorman, reporter in the MSM doesn’t love Paris and the French?  Could they be embarrassed that now their favorite pets are both victim and perpetrator?

    It’s becoming clear, I think, that the rioters are mostly thugs and criminals who are being manipulated by Islamofascists eager to start a conflict (dare I say al-Quaeda?).  Once the rioters are finally put down (and they will be), the Islamofascists can scream about the oppression of Muslims and begin recruiting big time.  Then, and only then, will you see the MSM admit that the rioters are Muslim, as they will be happily complicit in the recruiting and the outrage.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 04 at 11:43 AM • permalink

  39. Back to the topic
    We’re the DEPARTMENT OF YOUTH ah ah
    We’ve got the power…
    “Mr Sarkozy said the violence was being orchestrated by unknown organizers..it was not spontaneous it was perfectly organized.”
    ABC site- “The minister,WHO HAS AMBITIONS TO BECOME PRESIDENT AFTER ELECTIONS IN 2007….”  w—e—ll that explains HIS motives then doesn’t it..
    Paris mayor Delanoe of the opposition Socialist party warned on radio Europe 1 against HASTY CONCLUSIONS being made between one religion,Islam and a few extremists, (he must mean insurgents)criminal networks in the downtrodden suburbs.
    The riots have spread to Dijon,Marseilles,Normandy and inside Paris itself.A fifty six year old disabled woman was allegedly doused with petrol by one youth and had a flaming rag thrown on her by others.(allegedly sorry.)

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 04 at 11:43 AM • permalink

  40. You know, AMX-10’s and Panhards are much harder to burn that Peugots and Citroens, and their tires are much easier on quaint little cobblestone streets than treads.  I’m just sayin’...

    And thanks, Miranda.  I’ve been trying to figure out how to blame this on Bush.  Now I realize he secretly went back in time to breed three or four generations of uneducated, enemployable, bigoted Islamic dole thugs to make his poll numbers look better.  It’s so much clearer when you explain it.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 04 at 11:48 AM • permalink

  41. Well, Jacques, where is the Martin of Tours who will deliver France from the Islamic hordes today? Did I say hordes; sorry, I meant “youths”.

    Posted by paco on 2005 11 04 at 11:55 AM • permalink

  42. I guess this is an “autofada”?


    Miranda,
    That poll was skewed by polling very few Republicans.  I would look up the link, but you sounds like a true believer, so why bother?

    Posted by Patricia on 2005 11 04 at 12:03 PM • permalink

  43. sbs news for specials describes the rioting as “unrest” and claims that “harsh language is fanning the flames.” The m word was mentioned once.
    Followed by ex family court judge Alistair Nicholson’s condemnation of the anti terror laws. His dramatic statement that “we are in the twilight of democracy” was truer than he realised.
    Then the P.M. was chastized “he DEFENDED his decision not to provide further details about the terror threat”,followed by Beazley saying “I hope the Government won’t be COMPROMISED by this.”
    Next a national day of protest by the Trade Unions on I.R. laws,two and a quarter minutes on Libby? Liddy?‘s trial in the U.S.
    the U.K. soldiers who were exonerated,lack of progress catching Bali bombers,red cross denied access to c.i.a. prisons if they exist and red cross spokeswoman said the “SO CALLED WAR ON TERROR.“human rights watch speaker,eu speaker,u.s. state dept speaker and footage guantanamo bay detainees—-two minutes.Next
    twelve Israeli soldiers killed a twelve year old Palestinian lad playing with a toy gun,elections not free and fair in Azerbyjan and riots,two minutes.
    abc radio pm tonight no mention Paris riots,but over two mins devoted to the effects of too much caffeine.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 04 at 12:12 PM • permalink

  44. “abc radio pm tonight no mention Paris riots,but over two mins devoted to the effects of too much caffeine”

    You’re talking my language, crash.  While the media choose to overlook the real threats to our way of life (the growth of militant islamism), they obsess about largely spurious concerns promoted by junk scientists (global warming, passive smoking, purported links between diet and health, killer diseases).

    Posted by rexie on 2005 11 04 at 12:28 PM • permalink

  45. The MSM “news” is having another of it’s HAL 9000 moments.  It’s cannot complete it’s programming, so it’s killing off it’s viewers by ignoring the real story.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2005 11 04 at 12:39 PM • permalink

  46. I loved this bit from the transcript of the Steyn interview:

    “Polygamy is openly practiced in these…in les Bonlier, as they call these suburbs.”

    I take it that Mr Steyn was talking of “les banlieues”.

    Posted by rexie on 2005 11 04 at 12:48 PM • permalink

  47. #41: Yikes! I meant Charles Martel, not Martin of Tours.

    Posted by paco on 2005 11 04 at 12:51 PM • permalink

  48. MSNBC is calling it “Arson” that is “plaguing Paris”.  I think all the thugs should be immediately incarserated.

    Posted by tree hugging sister on 2005 11 04 at 12:54 PM • permalink

  49. Moronda:

    These riots have come in handy for the bloghead… otherwise he might have to turn and look at W’s plummeting support across the politcal spectrum in the US. 


    I blame Wronwright for this blunder.  He of course instigated those wriots to divert attention from that plummeting support, so that our silly voters would forget about how much they don’t like W, and mistakenly elect him AGAIN in next week’s 3rd-term presidential elections.  After all, once the critically important Parisian Downtrodden Immigrant Youth demographic turns against him, it’s only a matter of time before “the rest of America turns out the lights on” old McChimplerburton.  I guess you’ve got these subtle nuances all worked out, Moronda.  We sure can’t fool you.

    Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2005 11 04 at 12:54 PM • permalink

  50. It’s becoming clear, I think, that the rioters are mostly thugs and criminals who are being manipulated by Islamofascists eager to start a conflict (dare I say al-Quaeda?).

    And that’s why it’s pointless hair-splitting (as done by Frog in the other thread) whether they’re actually Islamist extremists or “just” mindlessly rioting Muslim youth. They’re showing that they’re fine with using violence against people and objects they feel “oppressed” by, which makes them an attractive recruiting target for the actual extremists. Most foot soldiers of violent movements aren’t particularly ideological themselves.

    Posted by PW on 2005 11 04 at 12:57 PM • permalink

  51. But , is burning a Renault really a crime?

    Posted by IcallMasICM on 2005 11 04 at 12:57 PM • permalink

  52. By the way, at the moment CNN’s front page has not one word about the situation in France.  NY Times has one tiny mention. Plenty of big articles about the various scruffies shaking their fists at GWB in Argentina, though.

    Posted by BruceW on 2005 11 04 at 01:25 PM • permalink

  53. Sadly the French have fallen from glory ever since the victory of Charles Martel. 

    So when is the French Government going to decide that no longer is freedom of speech, but all out war against the French people? 

    To be fair, I found it annoying the Fox News never gave much coverage to the British Election last fall.  All news services have strange way of deciding what is important news.  Mind you I don’t even waste my time with the other news services.

    Posted by Faramir on 2005 11 04 at 02:11 PM • permalink

  54. Jeez, Miranda, here we have major rioting in France, and you still can’t be original in your exhortations of the unwashed masses?  Why, Karl Marx must be spinning in his grave at your banal delivery.  Your old title of “Blogparrot” remains valid to this day.  Go have a cracker.

    Meanwhile, back in the real universe….

    Ultimately, Chirac is in serious trouble.  It sounds like his “government” is so ineffectual as to be non-existant.  I mean, any government that actually forms a “Ministry Of Social Cohesion” (seems to be real) has to be so bureaucratic that nothing gets done.

    George Orwell would be horrified.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 11 04 at 02:12 PM • permalink

  55. W’s plummeting support across the politcal spectrum in the US

    Given that, even if you believe those numbers, his approval ratings are still half again those of the MSM, I’m not too fashed.

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 11 04 at 02:35 PM • permalink

  56. I blame Wronwright for this blunder.  He of course instigated those wriots to divert attention from that plummeting support, so that our silly voters would forget about how much they don’t like W, and mistakenly elect him AGAIN in next week’s 3rd-term presidential elections.

    You know, every time something bad happens,  I would greatly appreciate if everyone would stop automatically looking over in my direction at the Neocon Commissary.  (removes beret) It’s not always my fault. Sometimes, yes, even hurricanes happen.  (remembers Japanese weather machine, cringes)

    O/T But speaking of elections next week, it sounds like the lefty/liberals are trying to pull something over us stupid chewing tobacco spitting cornfield plowing Ohioans.  From today’s
    Cincinnati Post:

    … The four constitutional amendments on Tuesday’s ballot in Republican-dominated Ohio would expand voting by mail, limit campaign contributions and create bipartisan boards to draw districts and oversee elections - jobs now done by politicians.

    Hmmm.  Well, that doesn’t sound all that bad.

    Reform Ohio Now, a coalition of union and citizens groups that backs the amendments, has raised $2 million overall in donations and services, including nearly 3,300 contributions of $500 or less from all 50 states, totaling $120,000.

    Reform Ohio?  What could be wrong with that?

    The amendments were proposed by Democratic-leaning groups ... A third of its money, $629,750, came from People for the American Way in Washington.  Many of he donations poured in after a nationwide e-mail alert in late September from moveon.org, a liberal advocacy group that campaigned heavily against Bush.

    YIKES! People for the Radical American Way?  PileOn.org?  Reform my ass.  The Democrats and their fellow travellers are trying to change things in order to steal Ohio and the Presidency in the 2008 Presidential Election.

    “They’re a source I trust pretty well,” said Elizabeth O’Grady, a dance instructor from Encinitas, Calif….

    Well yes, I guess if I were a dance instructor from California, maybe I would trust them.  Since I work for a living doing something productive, I don’t.

    “The point is that they’re [persons contributing to efforts to “reform” Ohio] not from Ohio,” he [an opponent of the effort to change the voting procedures]said. “They’re people who think somehow Ohioans don’t have it right, and Ohioans don’t share that opinion.”

    Damn straight.

    The amendments are in part a response to long lines and confusion in last November’s election in Ohio, the state that put Bush over the top in the Electoral College vote. People complained of lost voter registrations, incorrect information on their precincts and lack of voting machines causing lines of up to seven hours.

    Yep.  Karl gives us Ohio neocons an assignment, and we do it.  It took a great deal of hard work too, I don’t mind telling you.  RebeccaH did magic with those Diebold machines, absolute magic.

    Well hells bells, I was going to blow off the election next week.  Now I have to get up earlier to cast my vote.  Better call my family and friends and let them know they need to vote also.  RebeccaH, do you need any help with the Diebold machines?

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 04 at 03:16 PM • permalink

  57. Whats the bet Steyn and others get criticised by the left for using the term ‘civil war’ as an over reaction?

    I think its our turn to use it for a while, dont you think?

    “Civil War” is an over reaction.  “Insurgency” might apply though.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2005 11 04 at 03:50 PM • permalink

  58. Hey, Andrea, time to read Miranda his rights (or is it her rights?).

    The so-called creeps standing by the President include our armed forces personnel, so that’s good enough company for me. And by the way: isn’t it revealing to see another parlor Marxist like Miranda unfurl his/her/its true colors, practically rooting for the failure of democracy in the Middle East?

    Posted by paco on 2005 11 04 at 04:03 PM • permalink

  59. New slogans for the Paris Tourism Board:

    1.  Fun Paris—It’s a Riot!

    2.  Paris—like Gaza, but with better wine.

    3.  Rioting Moslems and WMDs—We’ve got Baghdad Beat!

    Posted by Room 237 on 2005 11 04 at 04:50 PM • permalink

  60. Room 237: those are pretty good. And when the suicide bombing begins, how about, “Expand your horizons with a visit to little Algiers”.

    Posted by paco on 2005 11 04 at 04:52 PM • permalink

  61. As of this morning, ABC radio is still referring to car burnings, etc., as acts of ‘protest’.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2005 11 04 at 05:06 PM • permalink

  62. Has France raised its terror level yet?

    General Arrogance
    Run
    Hide
    Surrender
    Collaberate

    Posted by Room 237 on 2005 11 04 at 05:07 PM • permalink

  63. The question is whether the poor disadvantaged muslim youth will go to Iraq to fight or will Al Qaida open up another front in France?

    I’m betting that Mohammed will come to Eiffel tower.

    Posted by gubbaboy on 2005 11 04 at 05:10 PM • permalink

  64. >The question is whether the poor disadvantaged muslim youth will go to Iraq to fight or will Al Qaida open up another front in France?

    >I’m betting that Mohammed will come to Eiffel tower.

    For all the jokes, and the Schadenfrude [sp?], that is the scary reality.  Will this be a one off thing?  Will it radicalize a segment of Parisian youth to go off and fight in Iraq?  Or was this the first battle for Europe?

    Posted by Room 237 on 2005 11 04 at 05:13 PM • permalink

  65.   The amendments are in part a response to long lines and confusion in last November’s election in Ohio, the state that put Bush over the top in the Electoral College vote. People complained of lost voter registrations, incorrect information on their precincts and lack of voting machines causing lines of up to seven hours.

    Good catch wronwright. I, too, was planning on taking a pass on voting next week. Not anymore.

    All of the long lines—ALL OF THEM—were in counties run by Democrats. Yet they blame Republicans.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 11 04 at 06:25 PM • permalink

  66. Will you blogsheep be the last loyal creeps standing when the rest of America turns out the lights on the most incompentant [sic]

    Jimmy Carter.

    damaging

    Lyndon Johnson.

    corrupt

    Bill Clinton.

    presidency ever?

    Hey, thanks for reminding me of the last four Democratic presidents. Now I’m going to have nightmares tonight.

    And when Ayatollah Sistani sets up shop over the next couple of months, how will things look then for your fantasies yankee-inspired democracy sweeping the middle east?

    How hard are you stroking your cock when you dream about democracy failing in Iraq, you worthless piece of shit? And explain to me, shitstain, what’s so terrible about wanting democracy in the Middle East and why your desire to keep authoritarians in power is morally superior?

    You idiots have bought this administration’s line down to the last censored paragraph.

    What censorship, asswipe? Stop throwing around words like “censorship”, “repression” and “fascism”, or I’ll get Billy Mumy to wish your moronic ass into a cornfield in Cuba so you can learn waht these words really mean.

    You know how to play politics to win, but your [sic] on the wrong side of the argument.

    No, you are. Socialism, communism, anti-capitalism have failed and are continuing to fail everywhere. Anglo-American capitalism and liberal democracy - which you reap the benefits of, you ungrateful cunt - have brouught more freedom and prosperity to more people than all of your failed opressive paternalist experiments.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 04 at 06:27 PM • permalink

  67. What…. do you people mean to tell me this is ISLAMIC??? That Muslims violent?? I need proof!!
    Hell, if this is true, it doesn’t look good. I think we have some Muslims in Australia too! But of course, our Aussie Mozzies are all behaving themselves. No “cultural timebombs” raping here, no drive-by shootings, no incandescent Mullahs garnering copy-space,none coming from oversaes preaching anti-western sermons - so we’ll be alright jack.

    If it is Islamic, then obviously it is Frances fault for starting a war in Iraq. Didn’t they learn anything in Nth Africa???

    You have to realise, Allah is sensitive, and busy directing Hell (see:Koran); he has to delegate. Good corporate strategy, that’s all it is. Imagine if YOU thought you were God, and lots of people didn’t buy into it. Wouldn’t you get a bit het up too???
    “I’m God, damn it. You know…omnescient, OMNIPOTENT.I’m just after a little respect here!”

    Posted by Gravelrash on 2005 11 04 at 06:28 PM • permalink

  68. (I was channeling Tex there, I think.)

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 04 at 06:29 PM • permalink

  69. ” These are the minutemen”.... M. Moore

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2005 11 04 at 06:29 PM • permalink

  70. “You go out at night, eating cars.”

    Posted by Achillea on 2005 11 04 at 06:31 PM • permalink

  71. Room 237

    Headed for collaborate right now, and this is the “tough man” of the government. From AAP.

    The unrest in France comes despite Sarkozy’s anti-crime drive following President Jacques Chirac’s re-election in 2002, which was won largely on law and order issues.

    His two-pronged approach - a crackdown on rioters combined with proposals to promote minorities and help fund mosques - has provoked rearguard attacks from rivals in the conservative government who accuse him of stoking extremism.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2005 11 04 at 06:54 PM • permalink

  72. As a french expat in Sydney, I had to write something in this forum.
    The events in France, some here would hardly believe, were awaited by different politcal faction in France.
    First the Extreme Right, !Nationalists and Souverainist (One nation, no immigration, no Europe, no UsA), because since 30 years they have warned us about the uncontrolled immigration policy of the successive governement of Centre Right and Left wings, and because they are waiting for the situation to be ripe for 2007’s presidential.
    The differents underground Right factions (pro US, anti Turkey, pro globalization…) on the web and different networks, because we all have predicted that soon or later, the transformation of delinquants into puppets driven by Islamist would spark the beginning of a new intifada, and we are waiting for the right moment for a new political class that would get us rid of ChiraQ, Villepin and the old Centre Right, considered as traitors.
    The Left Wings and their extremist, because they think it would destroy, Sarkozy and Villepin in their credibility, because they underestimate the dangerosity of the Islamists, thinking the can still get the votes of the immigrants for 2007.
    The Islamist, and the so-called moderate muslim Immams, because they are positionning themselves as intermediate between their puppets and the government, and because they are ready to impose themselves as a political and colonialist force on the French and European territory.
    Soon or later, you Americans or Australians are going to realize that France is a key strategic point in Europe. If France falls down into civil war, which means a generalize balkanization war, between “Brown-Red-Green”, Danemark, Sweeden (Malmo), Hollande, Germany, Italy, Spain, will soon follow.

    Posted by Kim on 2005 11 04 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  73. You know, AMX-10’s and Panhards are much harder to burn that Peugots and Citroens, and their tires are much easier on quaint little cobblestone streets than treads.  I’m just sayin’...

    The AMX 10 RC is a wheeled scout vehicle, it would make more sense to send the AMX 10 P APC, which is tracked.  I don’t think there are actually any quaint cobblestone streets where the rioting is, so they don’t have to let that hold them back…

    I don’t know how fireproof French APCs are, but the British had a Warrior burnt out in Basra a few weeks ago (for some reason, the British MSM insist on calling it a “tank”).

    Posted by jic on 2005 11 04 at 07:35 PM • permalink

  74. #56.  I have it in hand, wronwright, thanks.

    Vote yes on Issue One.  You’re on your own on Issue Five.  Absolutely NO to all the rest.  I don’t trust California dance instructors either.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 11 04 at 07:39 PM • permalink

  75. The French Blogosphere is getting ectic, but the french official medias are still not mentioning that rioters are yelling “Allah Akhbar”. It is still “young immigrants”, and not “muslims rioters” “muslim insurgents”.

    From what I get with the french web, we are all gathering information about the riots, that are spreading also outside Paris, in other towns, a french old lady was set afire in a looted bus, a man was beaten to death in front of his familly, and snipers are targetting firefighters and policemen. Some policemen are calling for the Army…


    The undergound french resistance against the Dhimmis in the Elysées are wondering if the General sacked recently by the Government would make a come back…forum subversiv french resistance

    Posted by Kim on 2005 11 04 at 08:31 PM • permalink

  76. jic—Doesn’t AMX-10 come with that charming 105mm cannon?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 04 at 08:39 PM • permalink

  77. An other night of riot.
    1400 anti-riot policemen, 700 firefighters, 1 helicopter.
    One synagog was car rammed, and more cars burnt…
    For the moment we are heading for 7 millions dollars of dammages…

    Posted by Kim on 2005 11 04 at 09:12 PM • permalink

  78. Doesn’t AMX-10 come with that charming 105mm cannon?

    Well, yes.  But I’d send an APC to a riot, wouldn’t you?

    Posted by jic on 2005 11 04 at 09:33 PM • permalink

  79. For the moment nobody sees an exit to the situation. Are the suburbs of Paris, for Americans here, imagine any hot LA suburbs, becomming training camps for Iraq or Palestine ?

    The scenario is that most of the rioters are going to discover a new way of living, playing with the sensationalist media coverage, making easy money by looting, being back up by the Muslim authorities…
    I am afraid, like some of my french compatriots that we are heading towards a generalize nomadic war, like in Iraq, or Palestine, whitout a battlefield, but within the city in always different places.
    So to answer to your question, an AMX-10 is not a solution, warfare are going to be different in an Europe were gangs are ready to prepare terrorist acts of rebellion.
    Maybe the Israelian targeted assassination would be a solution ?

    Posted by Kim on 2005 11 04 at 09:59 PM • permalink

  80. Notable, although not surprising, that France’s grovelling to the rag-heads over Iraq has bought it no peace or gratitude at all.

    Posted by Susan Norton on 2005 11 04 at 10:01 PM • permalink

  81. But I’d send an APC to a riot, wouldn’t you?

    Why not send some helicopters to spot artillery? Safer for your soldiers.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 11 04 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  82. Other moonbat news:

    Drug addict Diego Maradona calls George Bush “human trash”, wears Bush swastica t-shirt.

    In the coastal city of Mar del Plata, where he is attending a regional summit, protesters set fire to a bank, looted stores and battled riot police.

    The violent left.

    Posted by C.L. on 2005 11 04 at 10:11 PM • permalink

  83. to 80
    Yes that’s one of the reason some intellectual in France, like R.Goupil, Maurice G Dantec, interview 09/29/2003 in Merde in France, and the silent majority sees Chirac as a traitor.
    It’s a strange french way to be racist with Arabs, we don’t want to go and mess with them because we know how annoying they are in our suburbs…French people are incrisingly hating the political class. No wonder they said NO to the EEC Constitution, and to Turkey.
    Imagine having Syria and Irak at the border of Europe ?

    Posted by Kim on 2005 11 04 at 10:14 PM • permalink

  84. #44 and#52
    Why is la Doogue’s sat breakfast failing in ratings and being withdrawn?
    Sample today—- Gerald looks back longingly
    on “the important anniversary of the DISMISSAL” with another geriatric,Bill Hayden.Her -“but going offshore for big money is now taken for granted,look at Macquarie bank and Babcock and Brown..”
    (comparing these financial edifices with Khemlani).Her “he was from Iraq wasn’t he?”
    Hayden “no from Pakistan,as you say Geraldine THEY’RE ALL THE SAME…“also “state sponsored societies don’t work”.By this stage la is cooling rapidly but he doesn’t notice.Gets back in her good books with"Howard is demolishing medicare bit by bit” but fell again with “I think the Hecs scheme is a good idea.Free universities penalise society and middle aged women looking for something to do should be at Tafe..” Doogue “DO you?DO you?
    RIGHT.HMF.”
    Hayden"We thought we’d better get a lot done we thought we’d only be in govt one term and we were.(whitlam’s govt) and"Keating had too much irish in him -it was one of the things that so attracted me to him.” and “unions today have overdone it.” Frosty Doogue-“Well with this BIG anniversary,tomorrow TerryLane will cover it in the National Interest and LNL with Phil Adams will feature Malcolm Fraser with GOUGH Whitlam..fancy together.Er no not together I’m told.”

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 04 at 10:26 PM • permalink

  85. First of all, Kim, welcome.  I’m sure we could use your perspective on the riots and other French matters.

    Second, I really don’t think anyone here wishes that bad things happen to France.  I would like nothing more than the French people stand beside the Anglo people and expend efforts that will resolve these problems for the future generations.  Instead all we seem to get from the French politicos are a great deal of arrogance, contempt, and condescension.  C’est la vie.

    Personally, the only answer I can come up with, with regards to France’s, Holland’s, Denmark’s, and other European countries’ problems with an increasingly greater population of unassimilated Muslims is to deport those who cause trouble.  Adopt a point system.  They steal, they get two points.  They commit hate crimes, they get five points.  They riot, 7 points.  Whoever gets ten points, gets deported to their country of origin.  Even if they’re born in France or whatever country they’re citizens of. 

    It’s tough but it would solve the problem.  And I would venture to say that most other Muslims would agree with it.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 11 04 at 10:30 PM • permalink

  86. Next breakfast treat to follow from Dooguie Withered was “another big anniversary today was the assassination of Rabin in Israel by a Jewish fundamentalist and we speak to Dr Hannah Saffran,leader of the group WOMEN IN BLACK,a feminist anti war group who conduct vigils on street intersections several days a week.“how do people react in Israel dr Saffron?”. “Oh they shout you’re a traitor and throw eggs sometimes.”
    D"Do you ever feel you are part of a suffocated and oppressed minority?“Well we are an anti Israeli govt group.”
    D “Well she TOLD HER SON SHE DIDN’T WANT HIM TO GO INTO THE ARMY.(sound familiar).
    S.“Well I told my son I RESPECT your decision but I will NOT DO YOUR LAUNDRY. The programme was aired on army radio actually.”...... this guest ten minutes interviewer Jonathan Gadir.
    Promo for Julie Rigg,also to be axed.“Julie discusses DEEP Throat the most PROFITABLE AMERICAN movie EVER.
    next on to cricket,which turns into a discussion on how American basketball has ruined the West Indies cricket ethos.Then Liz Ellis who agrees and says American basketball has affected the West Indies netball team. MONEY you see.

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 04 at 10:44 PM • permalink

  87. Doogue’s next invitee, a foodie who used to work with the Kennedys(motto it is possible to make changes)-and another foodie from the N.S.W. central coast.
    Doogue “she is embarking on the very BOLD project of streamlining the names of Chinese vegetables.”
    Doogue"Now before you COOK in a KITCHEN you have to buy the food.”
    Foodie “we’re going to call it PAK choy instead of BOK choy..”
    Doogue “Well I’m disappointed I thought it was rather exciting”.
    They then chatted about the renaming of hairy melons…...

    Posted by crash on 2005 11 04 at 10:56 PM • permalink

  88. Thanks Wrongwright.
    We are well aware of the political image we are giving. But you have to understand that there is a lot more than just Chiraq and Villepin or any other left wing ecologist idiotic in France.
    Among the different Right wings Chirac is commonly perceive as a leftist, a traitor, an opportunist who used the Extreme Right wing to be elected, but doing a Socialist agenda on France.
    Some of us are beliving firmly into the Western value of France and stand firmly on the same position as the Anglo in the war between Islam and the Western world. For me the immigration policy did work at some point for Asian, Polish, Italian and many other ethnic, I can say it because my background is vietnamese.

    But some of us are more suspicious about the US will to push Turkey into Europe, some of us are still wondering if the US are not playing to down Europe. Some of us just wonder if the US are not too indulgent with the Muslims.

    Your solution is interesting but, it is allready effective in France. You can see where it leads when you just take on spectacular solution. The real threat is behind the riots. The real threat is how these kids are brainwash slowly by French Rap (calling for French White murder, calling for intifada and disrespect of white woman…), by left wing nihilism and 30 years of social welfare, and by Islamists.

    10 years ago there were some riots in the suburbs, it could be assimilated with social, racial problems. Now it has taken the dimension of an intifada, a war of religion, a colonisation brought with an Ideology.

    Posted by Kim on 2005 11 04 at 11:09 PM • permalink

  89. I’d like to say “This is France’s 9/11” as far as waking them up and uniting them to the Islamist danger, but our 9/11 effect only lasted about a year before the Left recovered and came back even nuttier and more anti-American than before.

    BTW, nothing much on the riots in France on the cable networks, just a lot of stuff on the (much, much smaller) anti-US riots in Argentina. Funny note: was listening to the anchoress asking an expert guest who these rioters were, and him answering a lot of stuff about free trade agreements and anti-globalization, etc, while the images broadcast clearly showed rioters waving red flags with Mao’s picture on them. I guess you can’t identify them as “the same mass-murderer-fetishizing Communist thugs we’ve been battling for fifty years”, just like you can’t identify the rioting French as Muslims. But if a white guy blows up a building, by all means, identify him clearly as an anti-government extremist. And if another white guy blows up an abortion clinic, try like hell to find out if he’s a Christian, cuz geez, he must be, right?

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 04 at 11:17 PM • permalink

  90. Sacre merde, la merde frappe le ventilateur!

    Seriously, this is almost as bad as what happed in New Orleans, except for the rioting, car burning and shooting at police and firefighters that didn’t happen in New Orleans.

    Interesting take by Mark Steyn on this being the beginning of a Eurabian civil war. How long now before a serious terror attack in a French city? And how long after that before the French get mad and reduce Algiers to rubble?

    Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2005 11 04 at 11:38 PM • permalink

  91. Only Nixon could go to China.

    Only France can go to war against Islamists.

    Discuss.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 11 05 at 12:02 AM • permalink

  92. This may already have been linked, but today’s story in the SMH somehow fails to mention Muslims or immigrants or urban ghettoes, and refers to the riots as merely ‘unrest’. Possibly the SMH is trying not to tell us something.

    Posted by robf on 2005 11 05 at 12:39 AM • permalink

  93. Problem is that they don’t have to do a major terrorist attack in France. They just have to spread. They would soon overcome French people by numbers. They are allready trying to impose the ramadan in some suburbs. You can be attack verbally if you just smoke a cigaret.
    Well now it is the 9th night, things haven’t cool down.

    Posted by Kim on 2005 11 05 at 12:45 AM • permalink

  94. I think you’re all missing the point. This is government-funded street theatre. Images of burning cars are supposed to waken us from our conspicuous consumption addled comas by providing thought-provoking commentary on our over-consumption of our fragile planet’s finite resources, our focus on materialism rather than the happiness of compulsory socialism, the superiority of an ancient religion (that isn’t Christianity) and our over-reliance on the inventions of the capitalist oppressors in the US.

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 11 05 at 01:15 AM • permalink

  95. #89 Dave S.

    I’d like to say “This is France’s 9/11” as far as waking them up and uniting them to the Islamist danger, but our 9/11 effect only lasted about a year before the Left recovered and came back even nuttier and more anti-American than before.

    For some, only four days.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 11 05 at 01:39 AM • permalink

  96. I am ceaselessly amazed at how the Muslims continue to prove my point time and time again. Having been engaged, fruitlessly, on another one of Tim’s threads, I turn here and see all the anger and bizarre ass-kissing of Muslims ’ bottoms, curtailment of freedoms and the bending over backwards to please these assholes. It will never end.

    As to this particular thread, which contains a number of issues, I am enjoying this quote from the Telegraph:

    One artist, Franz Füchsel, said he intended no offence. “But I live in 2005, not 905 and I use my quill in the way that Danish law allows me.”

    There are still brave people in Denmark. They are, after all, the descendants of the Jutes and the Vikings and they pretty much ran Britain for a few centuries. Hurrah for the newspaper that ran the cartoons of the Prophet (pbhn). Time that joker showed his face.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 05 at 01:44 AM • permalink

  97. # 96 Hurrah for the newspaper that ran the cartoons of the Prophet (pbhn). Time that joker showed his face

    What’s with “the Prophet (pbhn)”. I’d use “the Prophet (Gdhs)”

    You work out what the Gdhs stands for.

    Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2005 11 05 at 03:21 AM • permalink

  98. #97

    I use that (pbhn) with heavy irony. Mockery, let’s say. I find all those pious little spurts of sanctimonious fervor revolting.

    Now, I am trying to work out Gdhs. God damn his…shirt? Socks? Shit? Sanctimony? Surgery? Substation? Sandwich? Salad?

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 05 at 03:27 AM • permalink

  99. Can this horrific act be excused?

    A savage assault on a bus passenger highlighted the dangers of travel in the impoverished outlying neighborhoods, where authorities were struggling to regain control.

    Attackers doused the woman, in her 50s and on crutches, with an inflammable liquid and set her afire as she tried to get off a bus in the suburb of Sevran Wednesday, judicial officials said. The bus had been forced to stop because of burning objects in its path. She was rescued by the driver and hospitalized with severe burns.

    Justice Minister Pascal Clement deplored the incident, saying it caused him “great emotion.” http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn;=/2005/11/04/257680.html

    This is the reaction from France’s Justice Minister? The top cop in France? It caused him “great emotion?” My God. And here I was wondering, after receiving a spanking by some extremely concerned commenters in these pages, that I was perhaps overstating my case about France’s ultimate metamorphosis into a Muslim state over the next 20-50 years. Shit. I’m moving it up. 20 days more like. And there are, evidently, plenty of Praise be to Allahs heard among the rioters.

    #66, Dave S.
    Shit, man, you’re killing me. Your stuff is great. And who is this idiot Miranda? What a lockstep little moronic leftwing twat she is.

    Posted by ekw on 2005 11 05 at 04:04 AM • permalink

  100. Did you see the ABC news tonight (Saturday) and their absolutely gleeful description of the riots? The ones in Argentina that is! I wonder why???
    My, My, such a contrast in the way the two riots were reported! Sadly predictable though.

    Posted by Brian on 2005 11 05 at 05:55 AM • permalink

  101. Please don’t credit “Miranda Divide” with being a woman. I imagine a sad, fat, late-middle-ageed bald guy living, since the death of his mother, in a one-room flat, getting his jollies from sneaking out at night to sniff school-girls’ bicycle seats.

    Posted by Susan Norton on 2005 11 05 at 08:01 AM • permalink

  102. Jic—I was thinking of that brave Palestinian fighter the BBC video’d during the Intifada, standing up in the middle of the street to fire up an Israeli tank with an AK.  Tank gunner was apparently so awed by his Islamic fervor he was too scared to switch to coax before he pulled the trigger.  Large cloud of smoke.  Larger cloud of Palestinian.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 11 05 at 04:16 PM • permalink

  103. that brave Palestinian fighter the BBC video’d during the Intifada, standing up in the middle of the street to fire up an Israeli tank with an AK.

    ksnksnksnksnk!!!!
    Bozos like that put the “win” in Darwin ... or something like that.

    Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2005 11 05 at 05:52 PM • permalink

  104. “[W]e were inundated with hate mail. We were disparaged as ‘immoral cowards; a nation of effeminate, improbitive [sic], whimpering, timorous poltroons.’ And isn’t it racist to say ‘I hope you enjoy Islam. I hope you do not expect to move to the U.S. when the Muslims run you out of your own country’?”
    ~the French Ambassador to the U.S., Jean-David Levitte

      The guy looks like soothsayer now, ‘cause THAT was in June…2004

    Posted by tree hugging sister on 2005 11 07 at 02:10 PM • permalink

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