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THE DANGER OF UNPROCESSED MINDS

Daily Kos doesn’t get Harry Hutton:

This is not a joke. This is the rising tide of eliminationist language that I’ve seen for a lot of years on the right. It starts as chuckles among unformed or unaware or unprocessed minds, and can quickly metastasize into action. In a metaphorical sense it already has, with the cutthroat way Republicans do business in the political arena. Then it turns into jokes that reflect some wishful rage with a wink and a nod. From there it’s just a hop and a skip and a jump to calling Democrats “cockroaches” that need to be “stamped out.”

ATTENTION DAILY KOS! An update from Harry Hutton:

Dsquared, whom you use as an example of a Republican hate-monger, is: a) English; b) left-wing; and c) a writer for The Guardian.

Hats off.

Posted by Tim B. on 06/14/2006 at 03:04 PM
  1. unformed or unaware or unprocessed minds

    The name of my next rock band: U3

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 06 14 at 03:21 PM • permalink

  2. Democrats?  I always thought of them more as “rats.”

    Posted by the wolf on 2006 06 14 at 03:30 PM • permalink

  3. So that is how the left adopted “Bushitler.”

    Posted by perfectsense on 2006 06 14 at 03:33 PM • permalink

  4. Ok, I am starting to think that Kos has come unhinged, just a bit. No, really unhinged, in a clinical sense. Either that or he is an unheralded master of irony.

    I live in a deep blue state, and the only “wipe ‘em out like cockroaches” type speach I have ever seen is on the t-shirts and bumper stickers of Kos types, and refers to Republicans.

    Posted by moptop on 2006 06 14 at 03:36 PM • permalink

  5. Do you suppose it is possible that Iowahawk hacked his site?

    Posted by moptop on 2006 06 14 at 03:37 PM • permalink

  6. This is not a joke. This is the rising tide of eliminationist language that I’ve seen for a lot of years on the right.

    Christ-on-a-cracker, these people are beyond parody.

    His first sentence:

    I’m not above making fun of people.  Actually I do it for sport.

    But you only find it “funny” when it is you who are making fun of people.

    Jackass.

    Posted by TomB on 2006 06 14 at 03:40 PM • permalink

  7. Ok, I am starting to think that Kos has come unhinged,

    I believe he has always been unhinged, although this past week may have him eyeing the anti freeze.

    But this wasn’t Kos, it was one of his thousands of “diarists”. Who constantly post on his site and drive up his hit counter.

    Why, again, is he considered a blog?

    Posted by TomB on 2006 06 14 at 03:43 PM • permalink

  8. Watching some of the commenters attempt to put Hutton’s humor under the microscope is almost as funny as Hutton.

    The paragraph from Moulitsas, quoted above, is a left-wing trifecta: hypocritical, dishonest and paranoid. Keep it up Kos! The acne wing of the Democratic Party will do to American Liberalism what a host of conservative commentators haven’t succeeded in doing in 40 years.

    Posted by paco on 2006 06 14 at 03:51 PM • permalink

  9. From there it’s just a hop and a skip and a jump to calling Democrats “cockroaches” that need to be “stamped out.”

    Not so! Stamping is very inefficient. Boric acid in the tofu is more what I had in mind.

    Posted by paco on 2006 06 14 at 03:55 PM • permalink

  10. Democrats are cockroaches that need to be stamped out.

    Posted by WingDynasty on 2006 06 14 at 03:56 PM • permalink

  11. Paco: “the acne wing of the Democratic Party!”

    Pure bloody genius!

    Posted by Bill Spencer on 2006 06 14 at 03:58 PM • permalink

  12. Of course, Democrat supporters would never say anything like this.

    Posted by Evil Pundit on 2006 06 14 at 04:02 PM • permalink

  13. Ummmmm.. what am I not getting here?  He’s making out that thinking of the Democrats (in US or in Oz) as cockroaches that need to be stamped out is bad?

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 06 14 at 04:04 PM • permalink

  14. Wronwright: I know Karl avoided being indicted and is feeling frisky, but I think this kind of baroque fifth columnism is going a little too far. I take it for granted that Kos is a plant, but all those commenters, too? Sure, it has sucked in a number of high-profile Democrats for now, but don’t you think that over the course of the next three of four elections they’ll figure out they’ve been had?

    Posted by paco on 2006 06 14 at 04:04 PM • permalink

  15. WingDynasty, you realize you’re saying that to people utterly incapable of grasping irony, right? Very angry, frightened, and stupid people.

    I hope you do, because otherwise you’d miss out on the full beauty of it.

    Posted by P. Froward on 2006 06 14 at 04:09 PM • permalink

  16. I loved this one.  Because, you know, this is the obvious conclusion to Hutton’s hilarious post:

    Anarchy is coming because some of these folks are just in a frenzy, completely clueless as to who Boris or Kos even are.  That adolescent trying to fit in, though, will be great for shooting Liberals as the Rapture draws nearer.  These people are completely batshit.  And they’ve hijacked the country.  And they tell everyone repeatedly that LIBERALS HATE AMERICA.  These people kill small animals with their wings clipped that can’t get away for FUN.  Isn’t animal murder and mutilation the first sign that your child will become a mass murderer?  I digress.  Goodnight

    Let’s see if we can follow this line of reasoning, shall we? Making fun of a Kossack in a blog post = anarchy coming and the hijacking of the country by the completely batshit who kill small animals for fun and are future mass murderers.

    Makes sense, right?

    This guy has more than just his humor circuits shorting out.

    Posted by Randal Robinson on 2006 06 14 at 04:15 PM • permalink

  17. quote from the thread Tim linked to at DailyKos (and no it wasn’t supposed to be funny):

    this is class war and the other side are winning

    Just from one well-timed, well-worded post, Harry is winning the class war singlehandedly. He’s not only an imperialist overlord, he’s a victorious one. For that he deserves our gratitude and admiration.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 04:22 PM • permalink

  18. I can’t help but think that Kos is projecting one issue onto another here, and that the “rising tide of eliminationist language” includes anything that’s designed to convince people that the Kossacks (especially head nutter in chief, Markos) are utter fuckin’ loons. Because, you know, the danger of having to listen to something that just might turn your gentle Democrat mind into a Republican one must feel like a death threat to these people, so that’s obviously “eliminationist language”.

    Posted by PW on 2006 06 14 at 04:27 PM • permalink

  19. #11: Thank you, Bill. It’s just so obvious, though. These earnest, immature, quarter-educated, narcissistic, callow, would-be national baby-sitters are so completely lacking in judgment, experience and wisdom that only people suffering from complete mental and moral exhaustion (e,g., Harry reid et al)could take them seriously.

    Posted by paco on 2006 06 14 at 04:27 PM • permalink

  20. Rather, I should say that “dday” (whichever brain cell of the Kos collective it is that happens to go by that handle) is projecting the issue here, as that’s not a diary entry by Markos.

    Posted by PW on 2006 06 14 at 04:29 PM • permalink

  21. This is not a joke.  Glad he told us. The sign on of an experienced humorist who needs to guide his audience through his routine.

    Posted by stats on 2006 06 14 at 04:33 PM • permalink

  22. This is not a joke. This is the rising tide…It starts as chuckles…Then it turns into jokes that reflect a wink and a nod. From there it’s just a hop and a skip and a jump to calling Democrats “cockroaches” that need to be “stamped out.”
      —Maureen Dowd

    Posted by Forbes on 2006 06 14 at 04:34 PM • permalink

  23. This is the rising tide…It starts as chuckles…

    Humor, people. It’s the beginning of the slippery slope.
    You think just ONE joke won’t matter, don’t you? Sure, that’s what all your friends tell you. They’ve told jokes before and nothing happened to them. And then, after one, surely ONE MORE won’t hurt? How bad can two jokes be? But as you continue to tell more and more jokes, before you know it you’ll be howling at the moon and eating babies, my friends. Mark my words.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 04:50 PM • permalink

  24. The solution is clear: Nationalize the humour industry.

    /Quiggin

    Posted by PW on 2006 06 14 at 04:53 PM • permalink

  25. This is not a joke. This is the rising tide of eliminationist language that I’ve seen for a lot of years on the right. It starts as chuckles among unformed or unaware or unprocessed minds, and can quickly metastasize into action. In a metaphorical sense it already has, with the cutthroat way Republicans do business in the political arena. Then it turns into jokes that reflect some wishful rage with a wink and a nod. From there it’s just a hop and a skip and a jump to calling Democrats “cockroaches” that need to be “stamped out.”

    Apparently this is the left-wing version of the domino theory.  Allow conservatives to make jokes about progressives now and it’ll only be a matter of time before they’ll be cutting liberals open and eating their still-beating hearts.  It’s best to put them away now for the good of society.

    Posted by Randal Robinson on 2006 06 14 at 04:54 PM • permalink

  26. #24 thank god you closed that tag. The results could have been disastrous!

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 04:59 PM • permalink

  27. #15 P. Froward

    I didn’t miss it, and it is indeed a thing of beauty.  I was just hopping, skipping, and jumping to the obvious conclusion like Kos feared I would.

    Not only do those bong-addled twats have no grasp of irony, they can’t take a bloody joke either.  Remember when it was the Right who had no sense of humor?

    Posted by WingDynasty on 2006 06 14 at 05:01 PM • permalink

  28. Men are from Mars, women are from Venus except Kos and his mates who must be from UrANUS

    Posted by spyder on 2006 06 14 at 05:04 PM • permalink

  29. Haven’t they seen that movie where Gweneth’s life’s path goes two ways - if he didn’t go to Kos’s convention it would have changed the dynamic of the universe and it wouldn’t have happened!

    Posted by spyder on 2006 06 14 at 05:07 PM • permalink

  30. At first i suspected, but this now confirms it.

    Everything the moonbats say about the right is projection.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2006 06 14 at 05:09 PM • permalink

  31. O/T and definitely NOT funny:

    The architect of the Bali club bombings has gone free after barely two years in jail.  Abu Bakar Bashir received a hero’s welcome for inciting the murder of over 200 people, many of them Australian citizens.

    Any chance of a “rendition” to Oz where this filth might get a sentence appropriate to his crime?  Or better yet, a little old-fashioned “frontier justice?”  One can always dream…

    Posted by WingDynasty on 2006 06 14 at 05:13 PM • permalink

  32. I was chasing down the “Liberal Hunting Permit” sticker they were talking about and came accross this post:

    This bumper sticker was spotted by Left in SF over the weekend—disturbingly, on an SUV…

    Kind of a hoot, if it weren’t so depressing to think that so many people are substituting the DailyKos for badly needed therapy.

    Posted by moptop on 2006 06 14 at 05:15 PM • permalink

  33. These people kill small animals with their wings clipped that can’t get away for FUN.

    A small animal with clipped wings being as accurate a discription of a KosKid as I have ever seen, plus doesn’t everyone?

    and can quickly metastasize into action. In a metaphorical sense it already has.

    WTF is metaphorical action?  Action that actually isn’t action at all?  What a horror.

    Posted by Conrad on 2006 06 14 at 05:16 PM • permalink

  34. Haven’t they seen that movie where Gweneth’s life’s path goes two ways - if he didn’t go to Kos’s convention it would have changed the dynamic of the universe and it wouldn’t have happened!

    No, but I saw the episode of The Simpsons where Homer invents a time travelling toaster, goes back to prehistoric times and changes the future by swatting a mosquito.  I think that’s the same principle. 

    We’ll be very fortunate if the new path created by this person attending the Yearly Kos doesn’t eventually cause a tear in the very fabric of space and time.

    Posted by Randal Robinson on 2006 06 14 at 05:17 PM • permalink

  35. #37 Allah has spoken tho - some Abu supporter’s were killed in a car crash on their way to see him release.

    But as usual they’ll ignore Allah on this.

    Posted by spyder on 2006 06 14 at 05:21 PM • permalink

  36. Eliminate the skip and the jump and I’m with you.  And the hop isn’t all that far, either.

    Posted by cobalt blue on 2006 06 14 at 05:24 PM • permalink

  37. oops my #35 referring to #37 turned out to be referring to #31 (refresh is my friend)

    Posted by spyder on 2006 06 14 at 05:27 PM • permalink

  38. Please set your mind processors to “purile”...
    ...
    Thanks, I’ll be here all week.

    Posted by mojo on 2006 06 14 at 05:30 PM • permalink

  39. #30 - you beat me to it, Rob - projection, indeed.

    It’s the Left that mastered the re-education camp.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 14 at 05:31 PM • permalink

  40. #36

    You’re right.  Skipping is kind of queer.

    Posted by WingDynasty on 2006 06 14 at 05:33 PM • permalink

  41. Moptop- Read the whole link you gave in #32.  Damn you - now I have to look up what Manichean totalism means.  Think I know what eliminationist and propa-something means but I’d better check anyway.

    As I’ve gone on to explain elsewhere, the emergence of Manichean totalism in the American electorate has become unmistakable in recent months. The open embrace of eliminationist rhetoric by the Bush administration, after years of propagandization by right-wing agitators that made this possible, raises the stakes to genuinely serious levels.

    “Liberal hunting licenses” are only the ground-level expression of this rhetoric. If these sentiments were confined to a few bumper stickers by a handful of nutjobs, they might not be cause for concern. But there’s a clear connection between Limbaugh’s eliminationism aimed at liberals and its more explicit manifestations, just as there’s a connection between Limbaugh’s rhetoric and Rove’s.

    Posted by lmassie on 2006 06 14 at 05:41 PM • permalink

  42. #25 - Jokes like this, perhaps?

    Or this? (Note that ol’ Larry is so proud of his spew, he actually copyrighted it).

    ‘Truthseekers’ quotes Willie Martin (whoever the hell he is).

    And there’s this biting bit of political humor (note the source). 

    These are just a few of the first of the 153,000 hits ‘cockroach + republicans’ pulled up on Google.  Took me all of a couple minutes.  We’re going to have to start RIFing henchlings if the leftistas keep making it this easy.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 06 14 at 06:02 PM • permalink

  43. They’re really proud they figured out how to spell “eliminationist”, aren’t they? After that triumph, it’s a bit much to demand that they use it sanely. Baby steps here, guys. Give ‘em a break.


    What’s funny, though, is that I got curious about what this knucklehead is attempting to say and Googled “processed mind” and “unprocessed mind”. Came up pretty dry on referents for both of ‘em. What was the poor idiot trying to communicate there?

    Yes, I’ve got some time to kill. So?


    #41 lmassie,

    Wonderful, isn’t it? Vintage stuff. Even better than the “unprocessed mind” garbage. The ponderous tone, the fifty-cent words! All to spray a little perfume on a pile of deranged and meaningless bullshit. Honestly, though, I see the same literary offenses on the right, too.

    Posted by P. Froward on 2006 06 14 at 06:03 PM • permalink

  44. Imassie,
    also from that site:
    nearly every totalitarian regime in history has succeeded because of the avid and willing participation of citizens eager to be its subjects
    so it seems both left and right agree that there is a totalitarian threat to our society. They just disagree where the threat comes from.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 06:04 PM • permalink

  45. #42 Achillea,

    Be fair: That “Truthseekers”  [sic, sic] thing links to an anti-Illuminati site. That’s too far out on the fringe to pin on the Kos Clowns.

    Posted by P. Froward on 2006 06 14 at 06:09 PM • permalink

  46. Speaking of political humour - loved this one from Day by Day.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2006 06 14 at 06:17 PM • permalink

  47. First they came for the knock-knock jokes…

    This is like accusing Monty Python of making fun of the Black Death over the “bring out your dead” scene in The Holy Grail.

    “For God’s sake, the disease wiped out half the population of Europe at the time and these people think that should be the subject of humor? No wonder they vote against guaranteed access to subsidized daycare!”

    Posted by DanG on 2006 06 14 at 06:21 PM • permalink

  48. Humor, people. It’s the beginning of the slippery slope.[/quote]

    First they came for the comics, and I said nothing….

    Posted by TomB on 2006 06 14 at 06:23 PM • permalink

  49. Chuckles and knock-knock jokes are the gateway drugs to the serious stuff… sarcasm, irony, and even, tragically enough, satire.

    Iowahawk is a prime example of a man mainlining the heavy stuff.  No wonder they are so afraid.

    Posted by MikeTheLibrarian on 2006 06 14 at 06:57 PM • permalink

  50. It’s stupider than you realize.  The Kos diarist cites a comment by dsquared as emblematic of depraved conservative humor.

    Ahem…dsquared is Daniel Davies, one of John Quiggin’s co-bloggers at Crooked Timber.  Mr. Davies does have a very sharp tongue, but he’s quite the opposite of conservative.

    Posted by dipnut on 2006 06 14 at 06:59 PM • permalink

  51. Hmmm… apparently they weren’t paying attention to ofthis part of their pundit in training seminar.

    Posted by ambisinsitral on 2006 06 14 at 07:06 PM • permalink

  52. #14 Wronwright: I know Karl avoided being indicted and is feeling frisky, but I think this kind of baroque fifth columnism is going a little too far. I take it for granted that Kos is a plant, but all those commenters, too? Sure, it has sucked in a number of high-profile Democrats for now, but don’t you think that over the course of the next three of four elections they’ll figure out they’ve been had?—Posted by paco

    Not all the commenters are us.  Just the cockle doodle doo raving ones.  And don’t worry.  I had a nice henchman-to-minion talk with my corresponding secretary, MarkL.  His enthusiasm made him write the more looney comments. 

    I gave him the experience I had when I wrote 1,199 letters to Clark County farmers, telling each of them “to spit out that chewing tobacco, wipe the dribble off their slack jaws, and follow orders issued by their English overlords and vote for Kerry”. 

    I explained that yes, I could have included a quotation from Milton, a poem by Lord Byron, in each letter.  I could have ordered the tractor riders to donate to Kerry the proceeds from the sale of their county fair hogs and sheep.  But no, I refrained because I knew where to stop.

    Discretion.  And proportion.  They’re a good neocon’s weapons.

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 06 14 at 07:07 PM • permalink

  53. #42 - I used to be married to someone by that name…but I’m not positive he could spell all those words correctly. He could replace or repair a fuel pump or a carburetor (he wasn’t an idiot) but that just sounds too…ummm…intellectually pretentious to be him…

    Posted by KC on 2006 06 14 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  54. #6:

    And the diary-writing moron has another whopper along that line in the comment thread:

    I’m honestly the last person who would be accused of being PC, and if you ever saw my stand-up act it can actually get quite a bit worse than the guy’s original “joke” on a shock value scale.

    His targets must be conservatives though, which obviously makes it okay to him. As he says in the intro:

    ... if you are going to mock someone there ought to be some reason for your mockery.  Something beyond “I don’t like them.”

    I’m sure being an evil, baby-eating conservative (who engages in eliminationist language, to boot) is sufficient reason for his mockery, at any rate.

    Seriously, my 3-year old nephew shows more self-awareness than this guy and many of the commenters at dK.

    And quoting a dyed-in-the-wool lefty as an example of hateful conservative humour really takes the cake. Thanks for pointing that out, dipnut (at #50).

    Posted by PW on 2006 06 14 at 07:27 PM • permalink

  55. Seeing that I’m a bit older than most of you guys, I was a conservative who had to live thru the 60s and watch the country slide hard left.  It’s nice to see that the left has weakened to the point where their worst enemy is simple humor.

    You can not imagine the difference that having alternate sources of info have made in the past 40 years.  Think about it….number of careers destroyed:  Media 4 Bush 0

    That would never have happened even 10 years ago.

    Posted by trainer on 2006 06 14 at 07:31 PM • permalink

  56. The Danger of Unprocessed Minds

    Picture courtesy of Michelle Malkin AND Special Hot Air correspondent X.

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 06 14 at 07:32 PM • permalink

  57. link for # 56

    THE TINFOIL HAT CONVENTION

    Posted by El Cid on 2006 06 14 at 07:35 PM • permalink

  58. I loved the ‘truthseekers’ WTC collapse site.  Let’s see if I can reconstruct their argument.

    1. We don’t believe that big buildings hit by huge planes full of fuel can fall down by themselves. We reject all attempts to use science, logic, fact, experience or other methods to prove otherwise.

    2. Therefore, Everyone currently in the government, elected or employed, is part of a giant conspiracy that is guilty of treason, murder, barratry, and loitering with intent to commit mopery (h/t Mike Royko).

    3. Our only hope of fixing this horrible set of affairs in which the entire government is conspiring to oppress us all is to use the mechanisms of this very government conspiracy to convict and punish everyone in the government.

    4. Profit.  (courtesy underwear gnomes.)

    Right?

    Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 06 14 at 07:35 PM • permalink

  59. Full marks for the kos-meisters. I too have wondered at times if Hutton was being serious or just trying to make “jokes”.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2006 06 14 at 07:48 PM • permalink

  60. Southpark used to kill Kenny every week.  It’s just a short step to killing small kids.  THINK OF THE CHILDREN, YOU BASTARDS!!!

    Posted by jeff mccabe on 2006 06 14 at 07:54 PM • permalink

  61. But Kenny had to die each week. He was the “sacrificial red shirt” for each episode.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 06 14 at 08:00 PM • permalink

  62. The _end_ of something is a way of saying what its timeless nature is.  That’s been going on in literature since there’s been literature.

    It is not an incitement to violence.  It’s a figure of speech.

    Speech ought to figure in in blogs, it seems to me, even on the left.

    Kos in fact is saying that the right ends in violence, showing that their essential nature is violent.  Same figure.  He’s too stupid to realize it.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2006 06 14 at 08:12 PM • permalink

  63. Only the deeply stupid don’t ‘get’ Harry Hutton, so it’s no surprise that the Kossuckers have completely misread him.

    Posted by SB on 2006 06 14 at 08:14 PM • permalink

  64. From there it’s just a hop and a skip and a jump to calling Democrats “cockroaches” that need to be “stamped out.”

    Not so! Stamping is very inefficient. Boric acid in the tofu is more what I had in mind.

    All together now, sing it!

    “Napalm sticks to lefty wing-nuts…!”

    Remember when Howard Dean said he HATED Republicans? And promised to pull Fox’s licences?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 06 14 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  65. wronwright—Our two weapons are discretion, proportion, and perspective—our THREE weapons are discretion, proportion, perspective and self-knowledge—our FOUR weapons… I’ll come in again.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 06 14 at 08:22 PM • permalink

  66. We need Comedy Neutrality!

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 06 14 at 08:24 PM • permalink

  67. Haven’t read all the commentsso I’m not sureif anyoneelse has noticed this but the part that states “From there it’s just a hop and a skip and a jump to calling Democrats “cockroaches” that need to be “stamped out.” ” sounds like the exact words used by the Hutu Militia groups to describe the Tutsis in the movie “Hotel Rwanda” (someone tell me if I’m wrong).  Is it therefore possible that the writer of this comment, having quite possibly seen this movie, is implying that Republicans are only a hop, skip and a jump away from becoming genocidal maniacs?

    Posted by AshaB on 2006 06 14 at 08:53 PM • permalink

  68. bingo AshaB.
    according to the Kos Kollective, Conservatives would love to turn america into the Killing Fields for small, furry, defenseless animals. Even though the Republicans have been in power for six years now and haven’t bothered to do this yet (too busy waging illegal wars), just you wait, they’ll get around to it.
    the Kos is/are convinced.
    and you can blame Harry Hutton, because they don’t think he’s funny at all.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 09:16 PM • permalink

  69. yep, these dipshits actually think that conservatives want to go around killing democrat voters en masse. that’s how paranoid, self-important, and bigoted they are.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 09:18 PM • permalink

  70. ...of course, there IS a group of people that would like to kill american democrats en masse if they could, and american conservatives too for that matter, and american can’t-bothered-to-vote-either-way types as well. But I’ve got news for you, Markos.
    It ain’t Harry Hutton.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 09:21 PM • permalink

  71. Even though the Republicans have been in power for six years now and haven’t bothered to do this yet (too busy waging illegal wars), just you wait, they’ll get around to it.

    And when they do, their front line of slaughterers will be manned entirely by quirky Brits, you just watch.

    Posted by PW on 2006 06 14 at 09:24 PM • permalink

  72. Eliminationist language is dangerous because,  though it starts out metaphorically, it can quickly become literal. Indeed, it already has become literal, albeit in a metaphorical way. These metaphors are literally causing untold numbers of metaphoric eliminations. Language can literally kill, metaphorically speaking, so everyone should keep an eye on what they’re saying. Literally.

    Posted by Brian O'Connell on 2006 06 14 at 09:36 PM • permalink

  73. Some commentators in the referenced Kos site claim that they can smell fear on the internet. I don’t know what they mean, but after reading their stuff I suggest they look on the seat of their pants (painties) to find the source.

    Posted by stats on 2006 06 14 at 09:38 PM • permalink

  74. “You can see the life literally oozing from his body!” - former WWF announcer Gorilla Monsoon

    I think the Kossacks might be genuinely worried about suffering a similar fate.

    Posted by PW on 2006 06 14 at 09:42 PM • permalink

  75. Can you imagine being “processed” by these stooges?, if that doesn’t turn your bowels to ice-water nothing will.

    Posted by Daniel San on 2006 06 14 at 09:57 PM • permalink

  76. Poor Harry. Thanks to the Kossacks’ total inability to recognise humour he is now suffocating under 3000 kg of white mice.

    Posted by Hobbes on 2006 06 14 at 10:14 PM • permalink

  77. Speaking of things not being a joke - just read a great piece by Fjordman:
    Sample:
    Political Correctness is Marxism with a nose job. Multiculturalism is not about tolerance or diversity, it is an anti-Western hate ideology designed to dismantle Western civilization.
    Full article here.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2006 06 14 at 10:14 PM • permalink

  78. unformed or unaware or unprocessed minds

    Oh, bother. So many choices.

    Which one am I?

    Which one am I?

    Posted by rinardman on 2006 06 14 at 10:32 PM • permalink

  79. #72 Brian, I don’t understand what you’re saying. Could you rephrase it as an analogy or a few similes?

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 06 14 at 10:33 PM • permalink

  80. #72 - That popping noise we just heard was the sound of several lefty trolls heads exploding.  And before they could post, too.  Well done.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 06 14 at 10:47 PM • permalink

  81. this is class war and the other side are winning

    Of course we are.  We have way more class.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 06 14 at 10:49 PM • permalink

  82. So, does this mean if we call the lefties Kangaroos or say they “have a few Roos in the top paddock”, does that mean we can go after them with the .303 or 30/30??  Just asking.

    Posted by Razor on 2006 06 14 at 10:58 PM • permalink

  83. A: Harry’s response was hillarious, they can’t see the parody in their work. It’s just waiting to be mocked.

    B: this is a little over the top surely? ‘I wanted to post a comment but I can’t even fathom the fucking depravity of this’. Depravity?

    Funny how mocking a persons’ appearance and ethnicity as a ‘fucking Pom’ is neither depraved nor ‘culturally insensitive’ and from the Kossies as well, Tsk Tsk.

    Posted by Nic on 2006 06 14 at 11:09 PM • permalink

  84. See, the Kossacks have it all wrong.  We’re not interested in killing all the Democrats.  Merely wiping out the small minority of Democrats who seriously think we want to kill all Democrats will be quite sufficient to leave them no leaders but Joe Lieberman.

    You see, while Communists and (National) Socialists are really into that mass/group action stuff, like “mass murder”, we’re partisans of the ultra-individualism called capitalism.  Accordingly, we want to do things efficiently and cost-effectively, while preserving as much of the sheep as possible to serve as labor and markets.

    That’s why Mr. Rove set up DailyKos; it’s a self-financing, highly-efficient means of identifying the persons who need to be marginalized and eventually eliminated.

    Posted by Warmongering Lunatic on 2006 06 14 at 11:13 PM • permalink

  85. The entire Kos thread is hysterical.  In more than one meaning of the word.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 06 14 at 11:19 PM • permalink

  86. I wanted to post a comment but I can’t even fathom the fucking depravity of this’

    ...so you posted a comment saying that you weren’t going to post a comment after all.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 11:23 PM • permalink

  87. this is like shooting fish in a barrel.
    whoops!
    ELIMININATIONIST ALERT!

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 06 14 at 11:24 PM • permalink

  88. Hi Tim Tam!

    eliminationist language ?

    Does this mean we’re not allowed to use Adjectives anymore?


    Mr Abboo Buck Muskateer ( Indonesia)is hilariously tribal.

    Come on Mr Muskateer, try Christianity or even become a fallon gong member you might find it has more funding. Mr H an Islamic? LOL… What an Insult to our government system, let him say it here, and we’ll show him free speech. What do the Islamic Aussies think of Mr Howard becoming an Islamic?

    Posted by 1.618 on 2006 06 14 at 11:31 PM • permalink

  89. UK’s Law Lords Back Kingdom in Torture Suit.


    null

    ?

    Posted by 1.618 on 2006 06 14 at 11:46 PM • permalink

  90. We are being a bit harsh. In Baldwiny they appear do have someone well qualified to comment on Harry’s humour (probably attended Prof J Cleese’s comedy masterclasses) -

    “As a professional purveyor of items humorous, I am still amazed at the depths to which the right-nut wing-jobs will attempt to rise”.

    Says it all really. I hope young Baldwiney achieves in life the heights he attempts to fall to.

    Posted by Whale Spinor on 2006 06 15 at 12:11 AM • permalink

  91. I’m gonna go make myself a sandwich.  I’ve been busy shooting fish leftists Koskids in a barrel, and I’m hungry now.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 06 15 at 12:18 AM • permalink

  92. Talk about breaking a butterfly on a wheel.

    Harry’s deadpan whimsy is great fun.  A very British thing; the guy reminds me of Sue Townsend’s great character, Adrian Mole.  And as a fellow ESL teacher Harry is a great comfort to me, especially during Zulu attack.

    The left have plans for unprocessed minds, we know, especially those which continue to be non-anal, pc additive-free and downright droll.

    Caption under a photo which won’t load down: “Some multi-racial school children yesterday, enjoying this great land of ours.”

    Kos should get a committee together to untangle the gentle ironies here while the rest of us smile and read on.

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2006 06 15 at 12:21 AM • permalink

  93. Not to mention he’s a very poor troll.  Except missing the obvious, that Davies is leftwing zealot, Kos has him pretty much pegged down.  Now if Kos could just see how much more he is like Davies than the people he likes to think are.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 06 15 at 12:22 AM • permalink

  94. Speaking of crazy, I liked this Kos quote from YK:

    Liberals can organize… As Markos said, “Democrats can make the trains run on time.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 06 15 at 12:32 AM • permalink

  95. Wow—fast fade on that YKos afterglow. The comments thread is a treasure trove. Hard to choose.

    You were saying, Paco?

    Well…Daily Kos never saved my life
    but it did clear up my acne.
    Thank you, Daily Kos!

    At last. A plan.

    Make ‘em pay.
    Let it be our battlecry. If you vote Republican, you’re voting for the Klan. You’re voting for the Neo-Nazis. You’re voting for the scary fucks. Every vote for them is a vote to put a scary fuck in charge of your schools and the police and the military. Are you scared? You should be. You should be scared to death. Because, you know what? If they decide they don’t like you, you could be dead like the rest of them.

    This guy explains it all and, in doing so, explains it all.

    Bingo!
    ...what’s funny to them is their stereotype-driven imaginings of our outrage at these comments. It makes them feel all strong and rebelliously tingly “down there” to think that we get tied up in knots over their bullshit.
    I know. I’ve watched my Dad do this for my entire life.To them, this is like “pissing off the squares”, only, as usual, the targets are the small and the weak and the marginalized.

    This perhaps is the worst case of projection I’ve seen:

    Fortunately for us they also tend to be kind of stupid. Not the kind of stupid that is caught by an IQ test, but I guess maybe the kind that is caught by an EQ test. Or should I say, smart, but not smart enough for thier own good. They’re too stuck in thier own part of thier world view to be able to see larger systems and how they work, like the climate system, or the ecosystem, or the economy, or military strategy, or health care, or social security. They can’t stop making it about them enough to see that in the big picture they’re just a speck. This explains the incompetence.
    Most people are idiots… But don’t tell them. It’ll spoil all the fun for those of us who aren’t.

    What, us worry?

    We knew it was coming…
    they couldn’t ignore DailyKos any longer.
    But they are the ones who look like and act like silly little school kids now.
    Actually, like envious and scared little school kids…
    Fuck-em all There…I can behave just like them.
    They may have the talk radio gig—but the good blog sites are ALL Liberal. Heck, anyone can talk a good game , but it takes way more brain power to write good blogs that millions of people take time to read and support.
    I’m expecting this site and other excellent blogs will become their focus to attack. Am I worried? Not one bit.
    But they are.

    ghostbuster tells how he supports the troops, but not the mission:

    i think the soldiers do support bush, less than most republican POTUSes, but they’re the same brainwashed repukes we have here at home; only they’re too young to be cynical enough to preach without practicing… like their parents do.
    those ignorant bigoted knuckledragging monsters we’re fighting against… a lot of their kids end up in the military. i put it at a solid 66%.
    and they come home, destroy their families (or start doing so again), create a trail of poverty and mental disease that ruins their kids lives too, and then their kids go into the military and vote for bush.
    it’s all a nice little cycle.
    no big surprise 20% of our homeless are vietnam vets. that’s a stat that’s for real…

    And, in case we missed the point (knuckledraggers, you know), he drives it home later:

    most troops seem to still support bush
    the sad part is that these aren’t all great people.
    most not even. that’s why they joined, because of their character flaws. many not. but many so. in fact maybe most.
    that’s my opinion, my belief.
    and so they joined up. for whatever reason. this time around i am truly horrified by the “up” in evangelicals joining the air force. i mean, what does that say about us, about our country? they bomb people from the sky. each one wants to be the next video game superstar bush jr cosmonaut.

    cskendrick explains conservatives:

    They hate you more than they love life itself.
    They would, each and every one, kill their firstborn to take out a liberal.
    Something like what happened to jt is like the best sex in the world to them.
    Out there in Republiloser Space, hundreds of thousands of blistered right hands.
    Hey, Republicans: We Brought It On. :)

    A shoutout to an approving linker:

    shame
    the point of this diary is not to retaliate but to shame them.
    And for those who think this is a little thing out of context, one of the approving linkers, Tim Blair, had that same post linked by Instapundit. This is the mainstream conservative blogosphere we’re talking about.

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 06 15 at 12:51 AM • permalink

  96. And, finally, this from Hutton’s place:

    This, in a nutshell, is why I’m getting the hell out of these united states (just 2 days to go !). The entire country’s population is divided into 2 camps: one made out of dickheads, and the other of fuckwits.

    LOL I hate to sound like a Manichean totalist, but are we the dickheads or the fuckwits?

    Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 06 15 at 12:52 AM • permalink

  97. LOL I hate to sound like a Manichean totalist, but are we the dickheads or the fuckwits?

    I’m a fuckhead.

    Addamo’s a dickwit.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 15 at 01:15 AM • permalink

  98. Hooray for Harry!

    That guy’s a champ. To be “piled on” by a bunch of Kos losers; what an honour! I aspire to such distinction.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2006 06 15 at 01:36 AM • permalink

  99. Wow! That Kos site sure is bizarre. Even more so than here, but they’re serious, I think.

    This is what happens when young people don’t have to walk 10 miles to school each day, and holidays were so they could work 12 hours a day getting in the harvest.

    I blame the Industrial Revolution.

    Posted by pjw on 2006 06 15 at 01:43 AM • permalink

  100. While us wingnuts engage in “eliminationalist rhetoric”, the leftards actually practice it.

    http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06061410.html

    Posted by marcus on 2006 06 15 at 02:08 AM • permalink

  101. #100 - that’s Addamo’s “intolerance of intolerance.”

    (That was Addamo, right?)

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 15 at 02:45 AM • permalink

  102. #77 Blogstrop,
    Thanks for the link, it’s very well written and demonstrably true. Bookmark!.

    Posted by Daniel San on 2006 06 15 at 02:50 AM • permalink

  103. I can’t imagine one of those twits stamping out a cockroach. I could picture them doing any of these though:
    a) Pandering to it
    b) offering it the contents of the fridge in return for the cockroach’s promise to please go next door and bug them instead
    c) make friends with it
    d) attempt to open up a dialog with it
    e) take another hit from the bong and decide that it isn’t a cockroach, it is a higher lifeform
    f) draw a comic about how disgusting and morally degraded boots are
    g) issue a stern look of disapproval but basically do nothing

    Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2006 06 15 at 03:15 AM • permalink

  104. Hmmm.

    As a hardline solid conservative I must say that I don’t have any fantasies about killing liberals or any such nonsense.

    What I would really like however is for liberals to gain some logic, knowledge of history and a desire to know something about a subject before screaming about it on blogs.

    I know I’m shooting for the moon here, but a guy’s gotta hope.

    Posted by memomachine on 2006 06 15 at 03:33 AM • permalink

  105. Kos should probably think about getting around to having that penile extension surgery he’s been saving for…

    Posted by Hanyu on 2006 06 15 at 03:53 AM • permalink

  106. Hey, I finally looked at the original Hutton post that caused all the hub-bub.

    Oh. My. God. They’re wetting their pants over that? They’re drawing homicidal inferences from that? I’ve seen hamsters more threatening than that post.

    I guess Kos really does mean “pussy.”

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 15 at 04:03 AM • permalink

  107. BTW, Kos claims one of his losing endorsements was a win because the contest was looking like a whitewash until his endorsement, which forced the GOP to spend $2,000,000 on the race that it wasn’t planning on.

    So apparently Iwo Jima was a Japanese victory because it was supposed to take three days but instead took over a month, and we had to use lots of bombs that we hadn’t planned on using.

    (Uh-oh. If the Koskids read that, they’ll see it as a first rhetorical step towards flushing them out of their bedrooms with flamethrowers.)

    Posted by Dave S. on 2006 06 15 at 04:40 AM • permalink

  108. Ok, I’ve added Harry Hutton to my bookmarks.  Never heard of him before now.  Thanks DailyKos!

    Posted by wronwright on 2006 06 15 at 05:12 AM • permalink

  109. Wron, isn’t it?

    Or was that earlier, when we bought the accelerant.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 06 15 at 06:00 AM • permalink

  110. Oops, sorry, that was meant for Dave (just got back from exercizing, brains not functioning properly).

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 06 15 at 06:02 AM • permalink

  111. Did libs ever make a list of lib rock songs, right now I’m thinking Tegan and Sara’s “You Wouldn’t Like Me” would be tops.  The refrain is “I Fee—eeel Like, I wouldn’t like me, if I met me.”

    Good song.

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 06 15 at 06:10 AM • permalink

  112. How come CT doesn’t seem to have homeowners insurance?

    I feel like he’s milking this for pay-pal donations.  When he finally gets the check is he going to give everyone’s donations to some hack politician?  If it wasn’t for that likely possibility I would recommend also linking to his paypal account, but I kind feel like he should have his own coverage for this kind of freak thing.  I feel a little bad for him, but not very.  Shit happens, luckily everyone is safe.  What more can you ask for, besides handouts, I guess?

    Posted by aaron_ on 2006 06 15 at 06:27 AM • permalink

  113. #107 Dave:
    “(Uh-oh. If the Koskids read that, they’ll see it as a first rhetorical step towards flushing them out of their bedrooms with flamethrowers.)”

    wasn’t that the code phrase?

    You know how the flamethrowers get if we leave em pressurized too long. So, it’s time right? oh..and can I get an updated map of my target assignments?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 06 15 at 06:46 AM • permalink

  114. You know, I;ve been thinking that all the nonsense about safe houses, and concentration camps, and the reintroduction of slavery, by the leftists was just part of their overblown rhetoric.

    But—they actually believe it.

    Man, I pity them.

    Posted by ushie on 2006 06 15 at 06:55 AM • permalink

  115. #95:

    You know, that “cskendrick” must be correct…after all, he (?) describes himself as

    “I am possibly one of the most conservative regulars in good standing here.”

    Kinda like Evo Morales might be the most conservative socialist headcase running a Latin American country, I suppose.

    Seriously, if all that cognitive dissonance over there could be turned into energy, America could be oil-independent by 2010.

    Posted by PW on 2006 06 15 at 07:02 AM • permalink

  116. You know, I;ve been thinking that all the nonsense about safe houses, and concentration camps, and the reintroduction of slavery, by the leftists was just part of their overblown rhetoric.

    But—they actually believe it.

    They’re just projecting, attributing to their “enemies” what they wish to do. Read the quoted bit above about how if you’re voting Republican you’re voting for Klansmen and neo-Nazis—it’s impossible for the KOSplay Kids to accept that disagreeing with them comes from differences in opinion and preferences; it has to stem from fundamental evil.

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 06 15 at 07:17 AM • permalink

  117. Now where did I put those pointy-toed cowboy boots?

    Posted by Texas Bob on 2006 06 15 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  118. Henchman Wronwright - the plan is working well!

    MarkL
    canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2006 06 15 at 08:57 AM • permalink

  119. Hell, if we had flamethrowers, RebeccaH wouldn’t be having nearly as much trouble getting rid of her yew trees.

    Posted by Achillea on 2006 06 15 at 09:53 AM • permalink

  120. The very fact that these f**kwits can carry on as they do about nazi this nazi that, is the proof if any were needed that there opponents arent nazis, but when your head is so far up your ass it must be difficult to see the world as it is.
    It is clear that there realy is a huge downside to western civilisation, too many people grow up safe and well fed with absolutley no idea of what other people have gone through to give them what they have, they think there rights and freedoms just fell out of a clear blue sky, if they ever met the nazis of there imagination for real they praise they would s**t there well filled middle class pants, they have not the slightest conception of what nazism is, the crap they talk is the proof of that.

    Posted by phillip on 2006 06 15 at 10:06 AM • permalink

  121. Line 7 should read

    met the nazis of there imagination for real they would s**t there well filled middle

    apologies

    Posted by phillip on 2006 06 15 at 10:09 AM • permalink

  122. I wonder if “but, your Honor! He was gonna process my mind!” would work as a legal defense?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 06 15 at 12:38 PM • permalink

  123. #119, yes, exactly!  Just think of all the carbon I could put into the air.  I might even make up for Al Gore’s failings in that regard.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 06 15 at 05:41 PM • permalink

  124. 45 P.Fro

    an anti-Illuminati site. That’s too far out on the fringe to pin on the Kos Clowns.

    Is it farther out, or just farther around on the same rim?

    52 Mr Smarty

    Discretion.  And proportion.  They’re a good neocon’s weapons.

    You just like using big words like those ones because you know I don’t understand ‘em.  Well, “weapons,” I understood that one, but ... what were those other two again?

    Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 06 17 at 01:45 AM • permalink

  125. 65 Mr other Smarty

    weapons are discretion, proportion, perspective and self-knowledge-

    You’re just as bad as him.  You probably just made up all those words anyway.

    Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 06 17 at 02:04 AM • permalink

  126. Wait, was

    this is class war and the other side are winning

    said by the (slightly wealthier / whitely slighter) KOS peoples?  If so, which “class” is on the “other side”?  Is that a fair question?
    If not, if that wasn’t an official KOStard pronciamento, never mind.  They’re starting to all sound alike; and it’s hard to track which ones are the spokesmorons, and which are the drones. 

    86 Daddy

    you posted a comment saying that you weren’t going to post a comment after all.

    That’s depraved.  Indeed, that’s fucking depraved.

    92 Inurbanus

    Talk about breaking a butterfly on a wheel.

    We hardly ever talk about that any more.  And what IS up with the bastinado room being inaccessible?  It’s been fricking weeks!

    Posted by Huck Foley on 2006 06 17 at 02:29 AM • permalink

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