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Julie Szego writes in The Age:

Now in his 20s, he comes from an educated but conservative family …

There’s no possible way a person could be educated and conservative, as Professor John Quiggin is well aware:

The great majority of climate change sceptics, globally speaking, are also creationists …

Posted by Tim B. on 04/17/2005 at 11:01 PM
  1. Oh god - I just had an attack of cognitive dissonance. I’m over-educated for my belief system.  I’m going to have to cease being a conservative or an FCPA. If I stay both my head will explode.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2005 04 18 at 12:12 AM • permalink

  2. I though John Quiggin was created from an ill-advised beard/gene modification experiment, and grew on a petri dish.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 04 18 at 12:18 AM • permalink

  3. Exploding heads may be a good source of renewable energy.

    Posted by noir on 2005 04 18 at 12:22 AM • permalink

  4. JQ is just a patronising twerp.

    Posted by murph on 2005 04 18 at 01:16 AM • permalink

  5. And the great majority of climate change proponents are also the world’s leading producers of hot air. Hey, anyone can play this game!

    Posted by PW on 2005 04 18 at 01:22 AM • permalink

  6. c’mon habib! things that grow on petri dishes are useful - that rules out ‘our john’.

    Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 04 18 at 01:23 AM • permalink

  7. Only a Fairfax sub-editor could have let that one through.

    Posted by Adam B on 2005 04 18 at 02:29 AM • permalink

  8. THe theory of evolution is a theory not a law. yet it most closely explains the facts.
    It may not be perfect, but it is embraced by those who have read and studied THE FACTS.
    To suggest that “the climate change skeptics are creationists” is to imply that they are bigots who refuse to look at the evidence.
    Few would deny that man’s activities on the Globe have produced ecological climatic changes . It is the rigid political interpretation of the effects that is questioned.
    Was not Darwin regarded as a mild fascist by the left?
    was it not leftist academia that were originally the greatest believers in the horror of eugenics, the flawed “research” which was then embraced by Adolf Hitler for his “Aryan race” theories.
    But all the polemic against the “Green” doctrines must be dismissed withot the right to question, as it was with eugenics, .
    Belief is everything. Knowledge mean nothing.

    Posted by davo on 2005 04 18 at 02:38 AM • permalink

  9. JQ is a polemicist, and rather a poor one at that. he also shows classic bandwagon symptoms, and climbs aboard every one trundling down the left side of the street.

    I am a ‘global warming sceptic’. The evidence is there for climate change, certainly, but climate change is a demonstrable constant throughout the history of the planet.

    I am quite skeptical of the Green and ‘tied scientist’ ballyhoo about a causal link between recent climate change over the past few centuries and the activities of humans on this planet.  First we have to answer the questions as to how and why the climate was changing naturally, before we can see if human activities have affected it.

    MarkL
    Canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2005 04 18 at 02:47 AM • permalink

  10. JQ has incorrectely combined ‘skeptic’ with ‘creationist’; chalk and cheese

    Posted by rog2 on 2005 04 18 at 03:04 AM • permalink

  11. Oh, God, and here I thought I was a climate change sceptics and agnostic.  Well, if JQ says otherwise, what else am I to do but return to my true inner self? 

    Excuse me, I need to go picket some school teaching evolution.  There’s probably one out there, someplace, somewhere.

    /sarcasm

    PS:  I endorse post #4!  John Quiggins is a patronizing twerp.

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 04 18 at 04:48 AM • permalink

  12. Lets not forget that Margot has admitted to Imre that Fairfax journos are given special classes on how to write.

    Posted by Astonished on 2005 04 18 at 05:15 AM • permalink

  13. Actually, the destruction of the world owing to man’s bad behavior is a creationist story, which lines up with the greenhouse inclination.  It’s a myth that keeps turning up in various forms.  They don’t call them believers for nothing.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2005 04 18 at 06:05 AM • permalink

  14. Yeah- that nature’s cleaner than Snow White’s bum.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 04 18 at 06:29 AM • permalink

  15. Maybe Julie Szego was implying that peddle files do not come from conservative families ... therefore they must come from liberal families ... it’s an easy and logical connection to make after reading Szego and Quiggin ...

    Posted by Stevo on 2005 04 18 at 07:33 AM • permalink

  16. Quiggin? Wasn’t he a character in Magnum P.I.?

    Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 04 18 at 07:59 AM • permalink

  17. Pope=Hitler - on tonight’s PM, the leading Papal candidate - Ratzinger - was mentioned, before any other description, as a one-time Hitler Youth member, as if that were definitive and ultimately descriptive.

    Check the transcript tomorrow and see how dishonest left media is in every way, and at every opportunity.

    Posted by ilibcc on 2005 04 18 at 09:59 AM • permalink

  18. Get all your Popey voting hints right here.
    Still working on a live update on the shorteners; I reckon Pell is a dark horse, and mabe a special at 40/1. Don’t put the house on it though, I reckon the wog’s got it.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 04 18 at 10:05 AM • permalink

  19. There’s no possible way a person could be educated and conservative

    Oh, balderdash, twaddle and codswallop… you’re simply displaying your own limited education with that farcical statement.  The association of “education” with “liberalism” (read, “leftism” as it is used today) is very much a contemporary artifact, conceived after the First World War and rushed to an unnatural parturition following the Second… with tragic real-world results.

    I leave you with this joke from the 30’s.  A census taker is traveling through the Dust Bowl and comes to a dilapidated farmhouse.  As part of his survey, he asks the farmer his political affiliation.

    “I’m a Democrat,” the farmer announces.  “Mah daddy was a Democrat, and mah granpappy was a Democrat.  All my boys is Democrats, too… ‘ceptin’ the youngest.  He took to reading.”

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 18 at 10:25 AM • permalink

  20. The great majority of climate change sceptics, globally speaking, are also creationists

    Talk about relying on authority!  What is his documentation for that absurd claim?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 18 at 10:30 AM • permalink

  21. Dammit.  I gotta apologize.  I could claim I was directing my “educated but conservative” post at Quiggin, but it was just so damned absurd I automatically attributed it to our guest liberal.  My bad.

    Quiggin’s still an oik, though…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 18 at 10:33 AM • permalink

  22. Creationism is the belief that we need a big benevolent “person” to organise things that seem random.

    Socialism is the belief that we need a big benevolent “person” to organise things that seem random.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2005 04 18 at 11:38 AM • permalink

  23. All posts here dwarf in comparison to #14.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2005 04 18 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  24. Global warming believers are certainly from the intelligent and reasoning end of the spectrum:- ABC yoof radio JJJ morning imbecile Jay Walley*: ...Sydney fine, warm; Melbourne, fine, clearing and 25 degrees, and I’d like to thank global warming….

    *his claim to fame is being a white person with dreadlocks who is an off-key singer in a third-rate band called “Frenzal Rhomb”, has no educational or environmental qualifications and is dumber than a box of hammers- a pretty average global warming zealot. Quiggan is a stereotyping dolt, and a polemic pillock.

    Posted by Habib on 2005 04 18 at 07:03 PM • permalink

  25. Oh,

    That definitely puts me into the great MINORITY of climate sceptics since I am not a creationist, (and areligious to boot).

    Gadzooks I am part of an oppressed minority ?

    Posted by Louis on 2005 04 19 at 12:44 AM • permalink

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