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STAND TAKEN
Supreme Court judge Anthony Whealy sends Faheem Khalid Lodhi away for 20 years:
Sentencing Lodhi, 36 of Lakemba, to a maximum term of 20 years, with a 15-year non-parole period, Justice Anthony Whealy said while there was little case law to guide him, the courts must take a stand against terrorism.
“It may be argued that the imposition of stern penalties, in the context of firm denunciatory statements, will not in fact deter those whose religious and political ideologies are extreme and fanatical. But a stand must be taken,’’ he said.
“The community is owed this protection even if the obstinancy and madness of extreme views may mean that the protection is a fragile and uncertain one.’‘
Well said. Congratulations to Razor for coming closest to tipping this result.
UPDATE. AAP—which is disinclined to examine matters of race and religion—reports:
An architect has been jailed for at least 15 years after becoming the first person convicted of planning a terrorist attack on Australian soil.
UPDATE II. Meanwhile, in the UK:
A woman with an eight-month-old child and her husband appeared in court yesterday among 11 people charged in connection with a plot to blow up transatlantic airliners.
Excellent. I’d still like more, e.g. a firing squad or pork bomb, but compared to other recent judgements this is a real triumph.
Posted by russell2pi on 2006 08 23 at 01:19 AM • permalinkMessrs Howard and Ruddock take note: I think we have found and excellent candidate for the High Court when Michael Kirby finally goes…
Posted by Apparatchik on 2006 08 23 at 01:27 AM • permalinkBut a stand must be taken
My God, what beauty and majesty in those words.
But a stand must be taken
But, but, but, but, but…
But a stand must be taken
Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, Lebanon - danger, hardship, crazed implacable foes, the possibility of death, but, in the face of all that…
But a stand must be taken
Posted by Apparatchik on 2006 08 23 at 01:32 AM • permalinkDo we all remember the Bali Bombers who just couldn’t wait to get amongst Allah’s Virgins?
Well, they appealed yesterday against their death sentences that were to be carried out this morning. If things had gone to plan, they’d be rompin’ with them virgins right about now.
Obviously, one of two things happened here. 1) They don’t really believe all that 72 virgins crap, and or 2), they’re really chicken shit cowards as afraid of death as all the other chicken shit cowards
Well the result was right in the end, but what a load of codswallop lead up to it… Sounds like he was almost trying to talk himself out of the sentence… I mean exactly who is saying that
“stern penalties, in the context of firm denunciatory statements, will not in fact deter those whose religious and political ideologies are extreme and fanatical”????
Only a bunch of collaborationist, Western freedom hating, apologist academics or a minute amount of leftie, wet blanket sociologists/psychologists.
The overwheling majority of the public would be saying stiff penalties are EXACTLY what is needed (finally!!!), perhaps with a deportation at the end of it, and then you would have more than a few suggesting what goes around should come around, and an even stronger measure involving a noose or a firing squad would do just nicely…
So why even come out with all that crap, unless he was trying to suggest a defence strategy for the appeal process, or to provide a possible excuse some lamo lefty judge might choose to use to reduce the sentence to a good behaviour bond on appeal???
Who will say “This will further alienate and/or radicalise disaffected Muslim youth” first?
Posted by Honkie Hammer on 2006 08 23 at 02:06 AM • permalinkFirst words of smh story:
“Accused terrorist Faheem Khalid Lodhi…”
Um, shouldn’t that be “Convicted terrorist”??
“Accused” sounds like there’s still some doubt in the matter.
Almost as soft as “Alleged”.Since the sentence is now handed down, “Convicted” is on
the money. Must be too painful for SMH to use those words.#15
True, scooper. He was convicted in June.But it’s the SMH we’re talking about here…
Posted by HisHineness on 2006 08 23 at 02:56 AM • permalinkMy guess is that the sentence will survive the appeals.
There can be no doubt what this guy was up to. There can be little doubt of the consequences had he succeeded.
Public expectations are clear.
And not even the most ratbag liberal Judge can deny that there is an on-going threat. Or that this fellow is an obvious threat if loose.
My call is that he is out of circulation for fifteen years. But will be full-time active in the prison converting others to the Jihadist cause. Especially if the Judge’s foolish recommendation about confinement conditions is accepted.
“And not even the most ratbag liberal Judge can deny that there is an on-going threat.”
Are you kidding Geoff? Those bastards will still be denying the threat when their missus is in a burqa and they’re wiping their bum with their left hand.
(or is it right hand? I’m not too familiar with primitive customs)Posted by Crusader rabbit on 2006 08 23 at 04:09 AM • permalinkAn architect has been jailed for at least 15 years after becoming the first person convicted of planning a terrorist attack on Australian soil.
He specialised in deconstructivism.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 08 23 at 04:09 AM • permalinkGet this guy on the High Court.
Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 08 23 at 04:12 AM • permalinkI can see this overturning on appeal.
Dhimmi court cant prosecute a mussielamb. It’s against the shary laws.
And, according to the shary laws, a mussielamb cant be punished for killing a dhimmi, except to pay blood money. And a dhimmi is only worth half the value of a mussielamb.
So, gotta respect the man’s culture, dontcha know?!?
Set him free!
Set him free!
So he can get done killing thee!This is a doubly important sentence. As it is the first conviction and sentence for this offence it becomes the precedent. Any other convictions must take the 20 year term as their starting point and work either up or down on the scale of seriousness.
The high court could modify it on appeal but the precedent should stand.
He was caught , by all reports, early on in his plan, and without having injured anyone yet.
Someone caught whith an assembled device, martyrdom video, etc should be looking at a lot harsher sentence than this. The judge has done a good service to the community by setting the bar this high.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 08 23 at 05:08 AM • permalinkLaugh while you can infidels.
The jihadi’s wife will be supported by you. She will also get an extra payment because her husband is behind bars.
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The thing is Lodhi wasn’t even an architect. Its not clear but he was probably trained as an architect in Pakistan, worked in an Australian architectural firm, but wasn’t a registered Architect.
Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 08 23 at 05:49 AM • permalinkWill this deter terrorists more than a lesser sentence would? Probably not, what the judge said seems like commonsense to me.
Will this deter their supporters? Maybe, probably yes. Still deterrence will only play a secondary role in stopping terrorism, at least until terrorism is seen as having little chance of achieving its aims.
Will this sentence incapacitate him. Obviously yes. He won’t be able to make or plant bombs while in prison. We do have to stop him from recruiting while in prison.
Does he deserve it? Yes.
Posted by Lloyd Flack on 2006 08 23 at 06:26 AM • permalinkStop whining. I bought a two year sub to the Bulletin a few months ago. And I didn’t get any freebies with it, either.
bugger.
Most times it’s not too bad, better than ‘Time’. (Ok, ok, I know it wouldn’t take much to be better than that, but…)
Returning to topic:
Glad he’s got 20 years.
But I’m with Habib, let’s see what happens on appeal. Manifestly wotsit sounds like it. Or it will be quashed for some obscure reason.
The police must be spewing about all their hard work on the Jihad Jack case.
And back off topic, TV is on in the background. Who gives a rat’s about Jessica Rowe and Peter Overton’s Baby heartache?
It’s true what they say.
As an impressionable teenager, disastisfied with my lot, I joined the Archtects, a secretive group of professionals that tightly control entrance to their various groups - the Landscapers, civil engineeers, the heaters and ventilators, structurals.
You can always spot an operation going into effect as they send in a brigade of surveyors to perform a reccy of the target. These people are intent on the destruction of buildings in downotwns to be replaced by their own totatliatarian buildings.
Fortunately, I escaped the grip of this cult by my twenties.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 08 23 at 10:29 AM • permalinkBTW, is there something missing from this story about the RSL flag burning left out by the Silly Moaning Hilmer?
http://tinyurl.com/pwn3xPosted by andycanuck on 2006 08 23 at 05:20 PM • permalinkI remember David Marr being very excited about how poorly the prosecution of Lohdi was going; all they had was that he got or tried to got a few things using a false name etc.
I look forward to Marr and his mates campaigning to make it our constitutional right to prepare for terrorism in this way.
What an appropriate sentence, I figured 3-4 years tops.
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He was also sentenced on two other charges,it’s a pity that we don’t often see sentences being made cumulative in Australia otherwise this hero of the Religion of the Perpetually Outraged might have finished up doing 30 plus.