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SPLITTERS!
It’s like Hamas vs Fatah, except the religious component is larger:
Even at this moment of high visibility and impact for environmental activists, a splinter wing of the movement has begun to critique what it sometimes calls “light greens.”
Critics question the notion that we can avert global warming by buying so-called earth-friendly products, from clothing and cars to homes and vacations, when the cumulative effect of our consumption remains enormous and hazardous ...
The issue of green shopping is highlighting a division in the environmental movement: “the old-school environmentalism of self-abnegation versus this camp of buying your way into heaven,” said Chip Giller, the founder of Grist.org, an online environmental blog that claims a monthly readership of 800,000. “Over even the last couple of months, there is more concern growing within the traditional camp about the Cosmo-izing of the green movement — ‘55 great ways to look eco-sexy,’ ” he said. “Among traditional greens, there is concern that too much of the population thinks there’s an easy way out.”
True believers must suffer for their faith.
(Via Rich Stadnik)
Cripes Mole, where’d you find those two?
This is pure parody:
We are members of the most destructive culture ever to exist. Our assault on the natural world, on indigenous cultures, on women, on children, on all of us through the possibility of nuclear suicide and other means—all these are unprecedented in their magnitude and ferocity
Won’t anyone think of the men?
These people are definitely lunatics.
Why stop at owning just “one home”? Let us Have NO HOMES, let’s just live in collectives, you communist assholes.
Oh and driving golf balls made from compacted fish food will bring the wrath of PETA.
Besides, I couldn’t bear to hear the screams AND a sole in one, would never be the same, having to wear latex gloves to play a round with your balls.
By being against “easy ways out” (ie, indulgences) these guys are simply the modern equivalent of Martin Luther.
What’s the bet they rewrite Pope Gore’s seven commandments next?
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2007 07 04 at 08:50 AM • permalink“We are members of the most destructive culture ever to exist. Our assault on the natural ” blah blah blah….
(What’s the picture of? A stitched wound?)
And at the bottom of the page:
“We also intend to have a good time. Join us.”
Pure gold.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 08:51 AM • permalinkDoubleD is just another run of the mill anti-Semite, who thinks he is cute with his Bliar.
Have no fear oh Islamist.
Oh a quick question, did your daddy buy you this computer or laptop Hicks?
Cognitive Think scale from top to bottom.
Moron
Imbecile
Idiot
Invertebrate
Amoeba
Alphie (see Critt’s place)
Double DActually, its really very interesting. Israel funds and supports an Islamic fundamentalist force to attack its largely secular and nationalist enemy and thereby unleashes even more religious fundamentalism in the region while the US does a similar thing in Afghanistan in the 1980s…Crikey, talk about the Chickens coming home to Roost!
“the old-school environmentalism of self-abnegation versus this camp of buying your way into heaven,” said Chip Giller, the founder of Grist.org, an online environmental blog that claims a monthly readership of 800,000… “Among traditional greens, there is concern that too much of the population thinks there’s an easy way out.”
The servers of Grist.org are powered by wind, compost, and beaver-dam hydro, and its 800,000 readers share two Commodore-64s they salvaged from a landfill.
DoubleD/Huckabee, why the hell did you create two accounts in a row, 5425 and 5424? Bit of a damn giveaway. That aside, you’re a fucking parrot. Huckabee:
Pedro, is this an example of the freedom of speech and democracy the Brits are fighting for in Iraq?
DoubleD @ #6:
Oh Mr Mole! Your commitment to democracy and freedom of speech is astounding!
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 04 at 09:24 AM • permalink#20 - you think we would have learned our lesson from World War II. We provided massive support to the USSR in its war against Germany, and what happened? Fifty years of Cold War! We should have just let the Nazis win.
It is totally possible to conduct foreign policy without ever having to make deals with the devil to fight a bigger devil. It is absolutely not childishly naive and vegetatively stupid to believe that kind of purity can be maintained.
I know we’re past comment #10, but let’s for a second get back on topic. DoubleD, are you an old-school environmentalist or are you eco-sexy?
Posted by ErnestBludger on 2007 07 04 at 09:33 AM • permalink#10 Hey ThinAndBritish, you’re looking very pretty today! :p
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 04 at 09:35 AM • permalink#34
Photo updated on member page. Complete with appropriate T-shirt…
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 09:43 AM • permalink#34 Is that ‘CCCP’ on your t-shirt? Your membership of the VRWC is under review.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 04 at 09:47 AM • permalink#38
Yeah I know. Picked it up in Moscow (he said casually). Just a bit of commie memorabilia. Perhaps I should be careful about not letting 185600 and Texas Bob know where I live.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 09:51 AM • permalinkBelieve it or not typing in “deep green” in Google was enough to bring up those two.
Scary really, that’s the tip of the iceberg. Luddites using computers to organise other Luddites to force everyone back into caves!!Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 04 at 09:51 AM • permalink#36 Ta, I seem to be doing very well this week for some reason (and with a kid on the way too).
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 09:52 AM • permalink#42 By the way Ash, is your penguin still drowning? It must be a very slow, protracted death. I feel sorry for the poor little bastard.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 10:14 AM • permalink#47 Knowing you, it’s probably something foul like curry banana cake.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 07 04 at 10:27 AM • permalink#49
Ah, but I bet Phlby didn’t go around wearing a CCCP T-shirt.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 10:34 AM • permalink#55
(Writes in diary)
“Yesterday they called me a woman. Today they accused me of being a communist. Why can’t they just ACCEPT me?”.... Tears fall on page….Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 10:55 AM • permalinkTim Bliar, I actually think Hamas is or at least was formed as a politically secular organisation.
Actually, Fatah is the secular organization. Hamas is religious in nature.
Not that you care, so long as they kill
JewsZionists, eh?Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 07 04 at 11:01 AM • permalink#59 Oh man, Thin and British, you really don’t want to upset Grimmy.
By the way 185600, it’s tears and sweat that lubricate the Tardis, not just tears.
The sweat is generally collected from those that have the unfortunate luck of knowing that they will shortly be interrogated for information from the Precurement And Collection of information Organisation.
Even at this moment of high visibility and impact for environmental activists, a splinter wing of the movement has begun to critique what it sometimes calls “light greens.”
“State of permanent revolution,” dudes. You can NEVER be “progressive” enough.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 07 04 at 11:31 AM • permalink“sleep tight, don’t let the you know whats..”
Trillobites, there called trillobites, its a long story involving mead and wronwright…
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 07 04 at 11:46 AM • permalink#65
“State of permanent revolution,” dudes. You can NEVER be “progressive” enough.
That’s it. Turn left, turn left again, and keep turning left.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 11:57 AM • permalink#25, They were funded by Israel and the US, staged a coup and then overthrew the democratically elected government of Palestine,
DD, it’s offtopic, and definitely an attempt to hijack the thread, but I have to ask: Are you saying Hamas overthrew Hamas? ‘Cuz that’s how I read that. Not big on coherence, are you?
Back on topic: So when does the shooting begin? Being green and all, they’re probably not into real guns, so will they be using, I dunno, potato cannons, or handbags? Because that might be fun to watch.
Btw, ThinAndBritish, you’re looking good. Have you lost weight?
#70 OT:
Have actually gained weight since that was taken. Used to resemble a broom handle - now look a bit more normal. Still only weigh 9.5 stone though. Luckily I put the wrong address on the VRWC form - the 250-pound military employees on this blog who disapprove of my T-shirt can have fun tracing me to a home for retrded guinea-pigs in Hyderabad.
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 07 04 at 12:38 PM • permalink“Among traditional greens, there is concern that too much of the population thinks there’s an easy way out.”
The thing is, they’re right in a way. If things were truly as dire as both the hardcore greenies and the watermelons like Algore keep claiming, there wouldn’t be any easy ways out. Which just shows that the latter group a) doesn’t believe their own propaganda, and b) is simply running the newest anti-democratic power grab.
“Anti-Zionist? Guilty as charged.”
The Zionists ended 1300 years of Arab/Muslim imperialism and colonialism in Israel.
About time.
Go Zionists. Death to the Muslim invaders (and to the western left scum who support them).
Just my opinion, of course.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 07 04 at 05:20 PM • permalink#51
Noodles dipped in chocolate and sprinkoled with garlic salt? Now I’m sure you are pregnant.One way of looking at Israel patronage of Hamas at first, when it was no more than a social services group, is that Israel was trying to reach out to Palestinian Arabs no associated with the PLO, which was then intransigent in its hostility to Israel (it still is but now it dissimulates). Of course it backfired, but it was what so many people urge Israel to do, reach out to the Palis. From this experience we can conclude that reaching out to the Palis is foolish and counterproductive.
Anti-Zionism is a euphemism for antisemitism, just as the latter was invented as a euphemism for Judenhass (Jew hatred). The new words were adopted becuase they sounded more modern and progressive, but the meaning is the same: kill the Jews. If the Muslims who want to destroy Israel get their way they will murder Israel’s Jewish population, about five million Jews. That’s almost as many as Hitler murdered, so it should count as genocide.
Furthermore, the Jew haters of the Muslim world do not limit themselves to killling Jews in Israel, as Argentinians and Europeans have found out. Nasrullah, the head psychopath of Hezbollah, has come out in support of aliyah, return to Israel, for all Jews. He said that if they were all concentrated in Israel then the Muslims would not have to waste time tracking them down all over the world.
So anti-Zionist means antisemite, and antisemite means scum.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 07 04 at 05:21 PM • permalink“We are members of the most destructive culture ever to exist.”
Better not screw with us then…unless you’re hankering to be destroyed.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 07 04 at 05:21 PM • permalink
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