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SIR OSAMA
Conflict escalates in the Great Knighthood Battle of ’07:
A hard-line Pakistani parliamentarian and head of a religious political party on Wednesday demanded a “sir” title for Osama bin Laden, the leader of the al-Qaeda terrorist network, in retaliation for Britain knighting author Salman Rushdie.
“Muslims should confer the ‘sir’ title and all other awards on bin Laden and Mullah Omar in reply to Britain’s shameful decision to knight Rushdie,” Sami ul Haq, leader of the pro-Taliban Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam, said in a statement.
Restraint is needed at this point; otherwise Britain will simply respond by knighting Iain Dale or Harry Hutton, then Muslims would knight some random guys in Tehran, and suddenly it’s knights everywhere, with maybe a few squires and liege lords as well. Totally unacceptable. Trembly Brits are already spooked by the mere knighting of Rushdie:
I was astonished when I heard he had been knighted.
I’m not a Muslim, in fact I’m agnostic but his book caused such problems and giving him a knighthood may well encourage the terrorists to go a step further in their plot to kill as many innocent people as possible.
Salman Rushdie got his financial reward but why put innocent people’s lives at risk?
ADELE LEAN, LONDON, UK
At least she calls them terrorists. As often happens during these “outrages” – be they over cartoons, papal comments, or Sir Salman - a moderate Muslim makes the most sense:
I am so, so, so sick and tired of insecure, scared and apparently “ultra-sensitive” Muslims being “insulted” at the slightest, most innocuous gesture.
Mr. Rushdie’s award is an award for Mr. Rushdie. I fail to see how it is an insult to Islam and that it shows “Islamophobia”. Such great leaps of logic!
I am a Muslim, but I am quite sure that all these very, very angry Muslims around the world haven’t even seen a copy of the Satanic Verses, or any of Mr. Rushdie’s other works, let alone read and understand them.
A JAMALUDIN, KUALA LUMPUR, MALAYSIA
On the subject of titles and names, have a gander at this classic. Are these people 4Real.
I guess its better than “Sir Real”.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 05:42 AM • permalinkThis is a positive development, I think.
http://mickhartley.typepad.com/blog/2007/06/council_of_exmu.htmlAlso here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6224702.stm#2 surfmaster:
Maybe the parents want the son to have a sizeable payout from the education authorities for 4real (is that 44real) after he suffers taunts from fellow students. This recently happened in NSW, an ex-student successfully sued for playground bullying. The parents may only need to wait about 4.5 years, one week of preschool should be sufficient.Are you 4real? Got to be a joke.
Maybe they should rename osama “Sir hides alot”
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 06:25 AM • permalinkI think there are quite legitimate grounds for concern about the reckless and indiscriminate award of knighthoods. It is imperative to maintain standards and avoid a situation where the title loses the special status and respect that is due to people whose outstanding qualities and achievements etc etc…
I could go on but you get the idea.
Signed (Sir) Rafe Champion
I think there are quite legitimate grounds for concern about the reckless and indiscriminate award of knighthoods. It is imperative to maintain standards and avoid a situation where the title loses the special status and respect that is due to people whose outstanding qualities and achievements etc etc…
I could go on but you get the idea.
Signed (Sir) Rafe Champion
Sir Rafe,
You go to farSir Fmaster
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 06:54 AM • permalinkKnighting Salman Rushdie was an affront to Muslims and justification for further suicide attacks against the West, a Pakistan government minister said yesterday.
And:
Lord Ahmed, Britain’s first Muslim peer, said he was appalled to hear Sir Salman had been knighted, describing it as a “provocative” decision that would damage Britain’s interests abroad and community relations in the UK.The Labour peer added: “This man not only provoked violence around the world because of his writings, but there were many people who were killed around the world. Honouring the man who has blood on his hands, sort of, because of what he did is going a bit too far.”
It’s OK for a muslim to be a Life Peer of the British House of Lords and spout this sort of rubbish. Never mind that, as with the cartoons, the violence he refers to was a product of the excessive reactions of fascist lunatics. The Pakistani seems to be saying “more of the same!”
Knighting an acclaimed novelist is a British Too far.
It might be that the anti-Rushdie demonstrations provide a useful diversion for Musharef in the face of mounting opposition to his dictatorial rule. A dictatorship moreover that the US supports.
As for Knighting the Danish cartoons, I wonder what public reaction would have been if a Western paper had published cartoons parodying the crime Catholicism is most closely associated with, i.e. child abuse. One wonders if the Danish cartoons were published in the spirit of ‘free speech’ why this has not already been done by a major newspaper?
surfmaster, get yourself down to the Edwards River at Deni and look for “Sir Rhosis of the River”. My brother-in-law is a great fellow, a hard worker in his business and on the land, I admire him. His friendship and generosity to people is what I admire in Australians from the bush. Or anywhere for that matter. He would accept anyone to be crew, as long as they were fair dinkum. He’s pretty switched on, contrary to what many city folk think of country people.
Now about the manufactured outrage or being offended. That’s what it is, manufactured. And the West falls for it.
BTW, I’ve been looking for a Graham Parker video on YouTube called Stupefaction. Can anyone help me find it? I do love this YouTube stuff. The chorus goes stupid, stupid, stupid ... (repeat) ... that is how I think the West responds to offending religious sensitivities.
Stupid, stupid, stupid ...
Hi kae, dropped in after signing all those meeja watch autographs!!!!!
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 08:12 AM • permalinkAnd frankly, I must offer you my sympathies Huck. Your unprovoked rage at the Catholics obviously stems from some childhood traumatic experience. Tell us Huck. We’ll listen. No shame in confession.
Loosen the belt huck, all that pressure squeezes the detonators.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 08:37 AM • permalinkThe first attack came from the Catholic archbishop of Melbourne Dr. George Pell who, considering the work to be blasphemous, applied unsuccessfully for a Supreme Court injunction to prevent the National Gallery of Victoria from exhibiting the work. But where the gavel failed the hammer of two youths succeeded, by prompting Dr Timothy Potts, the director of the NGV, to cancel the show.
Bring it on huck, Andrea has allowed us to play with the trolls for a while.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 08:42 AM • permalinkThe first attack came from the Catholic archbishop of Melbourne Dr. George Pell who, considering the work to be blasphemous, applied unsuccessfully for a Supreme Court injunction to prevent the National Gallery of Victoria from exhibiting the work.
And therein is the difference, christians use lawful means to argue their point, that other “cult” uses awful means and blows everyone up, men, women, children and lefties.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 08:44 AM • permalinkHuck old boy, or girl…Insult Texas Bob and you insult me…one or the other will get you, even if I have to spend the Texas Bob Beer Fund Money.
El Cid, don’t sweat it, as that famous saying goes, “sticks and stones may break my bones but whips and chains excite me”
Well I am sure it was something like that.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 08:49 AM • permalinkHey fuckforfree,
in all the years of christianity, Jesus was never accused of paedophilia or anything remotely resembling same.
Big MO, on the other hand started the craze for legalised kiddie rape.
As for Piss Christ, does that mean I can drop the koran in a bucket of piss and call it art and not expect to get my head cut off?
#44
The Piss Christ is not to Christianity what terrorism is supposedly to Islam. So, until a Western daily publishes some ‘ironic’ cartoons of God and or Jesus molesting some kiddies…
Let me just check my bible… oh damn, it’s in the toilet*, but I’m fairly sure Jesus never advocated child abuse. The big mo certainly had a thing about killing infidels though, which most of the Danish cartoons referenced.
* Please don’t hurt me, outraged Christians.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 06 21 at 08:56 AM • permalink#64 lol you used ‘big mo’ also, and our comments are fairly similar, yet I hadn’t read your comment when I posted. I suspect you have the keys to the TARDIS, which allowed your low plagiarism.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 06 21 at 09:03 AM • permalink# 64. I never said Jesus, if he existed, was associated with that. But his followers sure as hell have made a go of it. I was talking about the association of Mohammed and terrorism.
Btw, I do wonder at what age women were married off in Medieval Europe…not to mention the droit du seigneur.
As for Piss Christ, does that mean I can drop the koran in a bucket of piss and call it art and not expect to get my head cut off?
I guess you could if you really wanted to, I mean, these overgrown schoolyard bullies seem to think they can get away with it…
A military inquiry has found that U.S. guards or interrogators at the Guantanamo Bay detention center in Cuba kicked, stepped on and splashed urine on the Quran, in some cases intentionally and in others accidentally, the Pentagon said Friday.
Huckabee sure as hell sounds like alpo, the Curiously Wrong(tm) Troll.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 06 21 at 09:07 AM • permalink#71 So, from your example of Guantanamo Bay, Pogria could expect not to have her head cut off, but she actually would.
(P, for some reason I think of you as female, perhaps because your name is similar to Polgara, a character in a fantasy series I read when a young teenager. If you are not, then my apologies.)
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 06 21 at 09:16 AM • permalinkThe hallmarks of an Alpo Troll:
o Never takes a position; actually defending a position would involve discussion. Instead, an Alpo Troll “responds” to rebuttal by changing the subject.
o Conflates historical acts with current acts. Thus, the marriage traditions of a couple of centuries ago are equated with the present-day laws of theocracies.
o The eerie power to read minds. At least, it thinks it has that power—an Alpo Troll feels perfectly comfortable explaining to you what you really think, based on the cartoon version of you it has in its head.
There are more, but those are the ones he’s shown in the last few days.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 06 21 at 09:16 AM • permalinkHuck mate, comparisons of Piss Christ with cartoons of Mohammed are not valid comparisons.
Compare an image of Jesus Christ with an image of Mohammed. You’ve made it that far? Well done.
Now, go piss on a statue of Mohammed. Now you’ve got your fair comparison with Piss Christ.
Let me know how long you expect to live after peeing on Mohammed.
I wonder what public reaction would have been if a Western paper had published cartoons parodying the crime Catholicism is most closely associated with, i.e. child abuse.—Huckabee
You mean like this one? Or any of the dozens/hundreds discussed here and here? If you want one, these people will happily sell you the right to reproduce any of a long, long list (copyright, y’know). And that’s not counting all the Photoshop jobs on the ‘net.
You really need to get out more, become more familiar with the culture you find yourself isolated in. At the very least, you need to figure out that you don’t impress when you make sweeping statements based on being too ignorant to pound sand and too proud of it to use Google.
Regards,
Ric#71: Well, there you go! The perfect justification for cutting people’s heads off, blowing up trains, threatening to kill apostate Muslims, and otherwise behaving like ignorant psychopaths!
” wonder what public reaction would have been if a Western paper had published cartoons parodying the crime Catholicism is most closely associated with, i.e. child abuse”. Oh, yeah, like that didn’t happen. And I believe the “public response”, if any, did not involve Catholic nightriders gunning down cartoonists.
#77 Ash
Now, go piss on a statue of Mohammed.
Umm, just realised that most muslims would be offended by a statue of the big m, even sans urine.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 06 21 at 09:28 AM • permalink# 76.
o Conflates historical acts with current acts. Thus, the marriage traditions of a couple of centuries ago are equated with the present-day laws of theocracies.
Actually I wasn’t the one who started talking about Mohammed and his supposed endorsement of pedophilia. You guys did. I was just pointing out that at the time marrying young girls was probably quite commonplace in Christian societies as well.
Thanks Muzzie, thanks mehaul, thanks El Cid, by the way Big El, have you revarnished your punishment plank?;-)
I’ve realised that this sad little masochist has only come onto this blog, (come, being the operative word), because Mistress Mandiii is on holidays.
Poor little sod has to get his jollies somehow. This is also waaaaay cheaper than Mistress Mandiii.
He may become a regular. sigh.
#69 dean:
Thanks. It shows how young or old I am. I remember Graham Parker being on the Australian TV music show called Countdown. He was the guest presenter back in the late 70s and he said most of the songs being played were crap on the show. A very enlightening episode. The one you pointed me to has eluded me from YouTube. I’m sure my kids could find it. Thanks dean.Paco
behaving like ignorant psychopaths!
They ARE ignorant psychopaths.
There ya’ go Palmer and ABC. Now you have a choice…You may call me Mr. Compost OR Mr. Racist Stereotyper.
Where ya been Paco? Just wake up, or on a coffee break? Oh gee, forgot you running your Military/Industrial Conglomerate, Paco Corp.
#71. *yawn* I’m about to trundle off to bed, but before I go..
# 64. I never said Jesus, if he existed, was associated with that. But his followers sure as hell have made a go of it. I was talking about the association of Mohammed and terrorism.
Btw, I do wonder at what age women were married off in Medieval Europe…not to mention the droit du seigneur.
Comparing christianity in medieval times and islam today is soooo passe.
Christianity recognises humans as fallible, hence the ten commandments and Jesus coming down to provide a living example so that even the thickest among us could get a clue.
Islam uses Mohammed as the example to live by, as exemplified in the sunna and the hadiths, and as laid out in the quran.
Christianity is based upon the idea of a just and loving God who expects us to use sense and reason to choose to come to Him.
Islam is based upon allah’s will, and submission to it or else.
If men of the church take advantage of their positions of authority to abuse the vulnerable ones under their influence, they are not following Christ’s example.
If men of the mosque take advantage of their positions of authority to abuse the vulnerable ones under their influence, they are following Mohammed’s example.
Since it is past my bedtime and I am about to turn into a pumpkin, I’m sure that some kind soul would be happy to track down one of the myriad links to articles of mentally challenged lads being used as suicide bombers and decoys for suicide attacks.
Or google palestinian child abuse for some great photos.
Night all.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 21 at 09:35 AM • permalinkAnd it does seems as though Texas Bob has a plenty backup, from Oz folks…lol.
My God, Pogria is vicious…you little devil, Pog.
El Cid - The Aussies will always back up the yanks, after all we are on the same bloody side.Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 09:36 AM • permalinkWell, once again, I missed the Great Huckabee Stompathon.
But no matter! S/he was slapped down in record time, which reflects both the quick wits of the Blairites and the poor moral and logical position of Huckabee.
Well done, people!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 21 at 09:38 AM • permalinkHere Fuckabee. Just what you asked for:
If you require more, here’s what our biggest name comedians and showhosts had to say.
All of this was very public, and republished everywhere. To date, I haven’t heard of a single Christian mob rioting, burning down buildings, or beheading anyone.
But you knew all this. You just don’t admit the difference, because you are dishonest, and more than a little antisocial. There are counselors who can help you.
# 92
Christianity recognises humans as fallible, hence the ten commandments and Jesus coming down to provide a living example so that even the thickest among us could get a clue.
Hehe…Jesus coming down…do you believe in UFO’s as well?
Christianity is based upon the idea of a just and loving God who expects us to use sense and reason to choose to come to Him.
As per the Spanish Inquisiton and the Crusades?
Christianity is based upon the idea of a just and loving God who expects us to use sense and reason to choose to come to Him.
You obviously haven’t been to church lately, Obersturmanfuhrer Benedict is talking about ‘damnation and hellfire again’.
#101 - Pogria - get a wolly golly guard for your keyboard.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 09:41 AM • permalinkYep…Let us both hope it stays that way…we back you, you back us. Only fly in ointment, is Lefties taking control of one or both. Then I fear the “back up”, will mean…away from.
El Cid, the old “for evil to triumph all good men have to do is nothing” suddenly comes to mind.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 09:44 AM • permalinkShall I log onto the IDF website?
You’re a member?
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 06 21 at 09:49 AM • permalinkHehe…Jesus coming down…do you believe in UFO’s as well?—Huckabee
Immediately followed by
Obersturmanfuhrer Benedict is talking about ‘damnation and hellfire again’.—ibid
So on the one hand we have the Pope telling people that their behavior will get them punished by God, which you don’t believe is possible, and on the other we have Muslims calling for real, live people (I assume you believe in that) to respond with guns and bombs to perceived slights? And you equate the two?
There are things you can do, you know. Reading comprehension classes, for one, and possibly drugs. Consult your mental health professional.
Regards,
RicAre they major Western newspapers, particlarly European ones?
Why do they have to be?
(And nice job of being the epitome of dishonesty in #99.)
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 06 21 at 09:54 AM • permalinkIf you go to this site, you’ll get an understanding of why fuckforfree is here bothering us hardworking folk.
Poor little bastard wants to know if a tree falls down in the woods, does it really make a sound?
Scroll right down to see what I mean.
I was wondering where I’d heard it’s name before.
There are things you can do, you know. Reading comprehension classes, for one, and possibly drugs. Consult your mental health professional.
And if pain persists, see your doctor.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 09:55 AM • permalink#99: You obviously haven’t been to church lately, Obersturmanfuhrer Benedict is talking about ‘damnation and hellfire again’.
What’s the name of that law which posits that once you play the Nazi card, you’ve lost the argument? And when was the last time you were actually in a church, Huck, or is it something you just like to fantasize about? The doctrine of “damnation and hell fire” is between the Catholic faithful, the clergy and their God; the Pope is not planning on reestablishing the auto da fe. I hope you’re not a smoker because you’ve surrounded yourself with a platoon of strawmen and you’re liable to scorch yourself. And if you think believing in the divinity of Christ is ridiculous, what shall we think of someone who apparently believes in the divinity of the Palestinians, or even in the moral equivalence of secular western societies and the crazy-quilt of theocracies, corrupt monarchies and one-party dictatorships that make up the Middle East?
#129 Ash
At least it doesn’t have a male pawing at it all the time now.
Some kind of reverse hair of the dog?
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 06 21 at 10:06 AM • permalink#130.
even in the moral equivalence of secular western societies and the crazy-quilt of theocracies, corrupt monarchies and one-party dictatorships that make up the Middle East?
Investing states with a perceived morality is not something I’d do.
As for the tyrants who rule the MidEast, many of them were put in power by Western ‘secular’ societiessecular
and currently enjoy Western patronage and support.Poor, old Huck, he was the ugly one in the class and was the only one not to be molested. So left out. He’s never got over it.
Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 06 21 at 10:11 AM • permalinkLooks like he is getting the huck out of here.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 10:15 AM • permalinkClassic Alpo Troll. Demands that something utterly different than the topic of the thread be discussed, then acts like everyone else is in the wrong for ignoring their red herring.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 06 21 at 10:19 AM • permalinkI’m writing a poem about Julia Gillard to send to a friend. I should send it to you too Pog.
Does it involve plastic, leather and a bit of carpet?
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 10:20 AM • permalink#130 paco,
Godwin’s Law:
As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.
Godwin’s Law does not question whether any particular reference or comparison to Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that one arising is increasingly probable. It is precisely because such a comparison or reference may sometimes be appropriate, Godwin himself has argued that overuse of Nazi and Hitler comparisons should be avoided, because it robs the valid comparisons of their impact.
While a Nazi comparison is sometimes completely legitimate, when it is used as a pointless ad hominem, as Huckabee did, it is a clear indication that the user has run out of arguments and is just trying to stir up shit.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 06 21 at 10:25 AM • permalink#146: Anyhoo, I guess discussing the US’s support for yet another dictatorship isn’t going to happen tonight, oh well…see you soon!
A parthian shot from an incompetent bowman who has just put an arrow through the buttocks of his own horse.
Fare thee well, brave troll! Warmest regards to the billy goats gruff!
This is one hot thread tonight, I have got all my vowels tangled up with the multitude of replies. (Huck that means lots).
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 10:27 AM • permalinkGeez Huck, didn’t anyone ever teach not to spout off about topics you know nothing about? It only makes you appear stupid (like all throughout this thread)
What do you KNOW about Christ?
I can tell you.
Nothing.Anywho, while we chatting about the historical perspectives of Christianity and Islam. Guess which one stayed in the Middle Ages?
#158, no, no ,no surfmaster,
that’s latex, leather and a bit of carpet!
No problems, I am not fussy :-)Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 10:34 AM • permalinkHuckabee:
I’ve followed this thread -for want of a better word - and tried to glean your position. Unfortunately, your original premise is flawed. Many here have make sarcastic allusions to that fact.At #20, you asked where the newspaper is that has published
“cartoons parodying the crime Catholicism is most closely associated with, i.e. child abuse”
Now, we can argue the toss between Piss Christ and the Danish cartoons all night. But surely, unless you’re just here for a shit-stir, you have to admit that Western media is, and has been for a long time- rife with satire, parody, and critical commentary of Christianity, Christians, and the Bible.
Piss Christ is just one example. In film we have the gentle mockery of Life of Brian, Meaning of Life, Last Temptation of Christ, and Nuns on the Run, with varying degrees of harshness.
On television there’s South Park. There have been numerous portrayals of pedophile priests on crime shows (though not in your venue of choice, “Established Newspaper” cartoons), comedians lampoon the pope, the church, Catholics, Church leaders. Hustler famously lampooned Jerry Falwell. In books, Bertrand Russell wrote “Why I am not a Christian.” In fiction there is The Da Vinci code, the Name of the Rose, and many, many other books with either an explicitly or implicitly hostile message about either Christianity or CHristians.
To ask “where’s the newspaper cartoon parodying Priest Child abuse”? is to be deliberately obtuse.
The Church, Christians, and Priests in general have recieved much parody and criticism, and child abuse in particular has been addressed in many forums in the media.
You know perfectly well that if such a cartoon was published, in say the Courier Mail, there would not be riots around the world, deaths, embassies torched or closed, diplomatic rows, or trade sanctions proposed.Monty Python were never assassinated for making Life of Brian (and nor should they be, it’s a funny movie).
Remember Theo van Gogh.Posted by daddy dave on 2007 06 21 at 10:39 AM • permalinkAnd as a side note—
Someone, above, suggested that “Huckabee” might be the troll called “alphie”. I don’t really think so; Huckabee asserts that there are no cartoons about priests and child abuse, and the first hit on Google for that is an agency selling stock cartoons that is obliged to maintain a separate category for that subject alone. The alphie us Goldsteiners remember would never have made quite so blatant a mistake. His/its intent is to get people wrapped around the axle trying to come up with answers to obscure, generally factitious, and always tendentious references. So I think this one is merely an alpolyte.
OTOH if it is alphie, it’s certainly “progressive” in the sense that the disease is getting worse. Eventually that will lead to a homeless person, bearded and smelling of piss, waving a brown bag with a bottle in it and challenging passersby to share in today’s overwhelming delusion. At least it won’t have Internet access.
Regards,
Ric#179 I’m looking more at circus tents these days. I like a little bit of spare space in my clothes.
I buy a lot of SM size these days, Mrs surfmaster says it stands for small marquee.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 06 21 at 10:40 AM • permalinkapologies for typos. “have made sarcastic allusions”
Posted by daddy dave on 2007 06 21 at 10:42 AM • permalinkDaddy Dave and Ric Locke,
I believe our little troll was working on The Peter Principle, and trying to promote himself on this blog to a higher lever of incompetence.
I think it’s working.
I’m not a Muslim, in fact I’m agnostic but his book caused such problems and giving him a knighthood may well encourage the terrorists to go a step further in their plot to kill as many innocent people as possible.
In 1921 cartoonist David Low published a cartoon containing an innocuous image of Mohammed, as one of the world’s lawgivers, in his paper. “Spontaneous” protests erupted, but government and newspaper refused to apologize—sod off swampy, and all that. That was the end of the protests.
They continue to mau-mau the world because we give in to them! So buck up, madam!
I wonder how many times Bush and co. have invoked God in encouraging real live people to respond to a perceived need to dominate the Middle East with guns and bombs?
Don’t just wonder, Huck, tell us. Or is this just another empty rhetorical device to make us assume the conclusion?
Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 06 21 at 10:49 AM • permalink#215,
I have wondered at times, how the term “stool” meaning excrement, came about. LOL.Now I know.
Unfortunately,
I can’t get the picture out of my head of fuckabee, (looking like Baldrick from Blackadder),
with his hands cupped together under the Goreacle’s arse and saying “thank you Sir, may I have another”.#118. I wonder how many times Bush and co. have invoked God in encouraging real live people to respond to a perceived need to dominate the Middle East with guns and bombs?
Nice, Huckabee. You imply by wondering, but don’t link. From this, you attempt to set Bush morally equivilent to the terrorist leadership who do invoke Allah to justify their murderous and indiscriminate butchery.
Talk about grasping at straws! Between this and your demonstration of Godwin’s Law, methinks that you’re at the bottom of your hole, and digging furiously, morally and logically.
And you know what? Seeing you flounder about is sweet. Not to mention highly entertaining. Thanks for the morning laugh!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 21 at 11:19 AM • permalinkAsh, my condolences. I’d offer my shoulder, but, alas, I’m too far away.
Plus I’d be shuddering while you munched on raw two minute noodles dipped in melted chocolate with garlic salt.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 21 at 11:22 AM • permalinkRe #224, I understand completely, Ash, given that I booted my ex-wife from the house.
You will get over it. It just takes time to heal, and some counseling. Do see one, talking about such problems is an immense help.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 21 at 11:33 AM • permalinkIs it wrong to want to track him down like an animal?
Nope.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 21 at 11:34 AM • permalinkThe_Real_JeffS wrote, to Hucky:
Talk about grasping at straws! Between this and your demonstration of Godwin’s Law, methinks that you’re at the bottom of your hole, and digging furiously, morally and logically.
Look at it this way, he’ll eventually hit magma at some point and burn out.
Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 06 21 at 12:19 PM • permalinkBurned UP is more likely, Patrick. Sounds like Huckabee is already burned out.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 06 21 at 01:45 PM • permalinkI mention hitting magma and managed to miss Ash_’s announcement. Looks like Huckabee’s not the only one with that… talent.
(...okay, I was skimming this thread in-between help desk calls so maybe that’s why I missed it.)
Ash_: My condolences. Follow the advice of the wiser folks here. It will work out.
Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 06 21 at 02:02 PM • permalinkman, have you people heard of instant messenger? Sheesh…
Posted by daddy dave on 2007 06 21 at 02:13 PM • permalinkHuckubee doesn’t rise to the level of troll mastery that Miranda Divide mastered. Still on his “L” plates, it seems.
Posted by Quentin George on 2007 06 21 at 04:57 PM • permalink#99Huck, I go to church every sunday.
As for ufos, well, they may exist, they may not, and they provide plenty of entertainment, but I don’t think enough of them either way.
While you’re casting aspersions on the idea of Jesus coming down to earth, what’s your opinion of Mohammed’s night flight? You know, where he rode a sort of donkey with a woman’s head to heaven.
Or are we back to the idea that you can slag off christians at will but we’d better not upset the mohammedans?
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 06 21 at 04:59 PM • permalinkI know you’ve all piled on Huckubee already, and he’s probably feeling like a bit of an idiot after having most of his unsubstantiated ideas shot down, but I do notice he brought up “droit de siegneur” as some sort of equivalence between that and Mohammed paedophilia. (!?)
I assume his speaking of “the right for a french lord to have someone’s wife on their wedding night.”
One problem. It’s a myth. It first popped up in the 19th century, as a way for Victorians to feel self-righteous and morally superior to their ancestors. What the term >actually< refers to is the right for noble lords to hunt game in certain areas.
Any half-decent book on feudalism could’ve told Huckubee that. But I suppose that’s bound to happen when you get your facts from “THE LEFTISTS POP-UP GUIDE TO WORLD HISTORY”.
Posted by Quentin George on 2007 06 21 at 05:05 PM • permalinkCareful their Nilknarf, you get Huckubee to admit to the ridiculousness of the night flight, and you will have got him to tacitly admit that Muslims have no claim to Jerusalem.
Might upset him. :)
Posted by Quentin George on 2007 06 21 at 05:10 PM • permalinkThank you, Quentin! Nice historically-informed troll smackdown.
Actually, the myth is a little older than 19c, as it’s mentioned in “The Marriage of Figaro”. According to good old Wikipedia, the “droit de seigneur”/“jus primae noctis” myth has been around for several centuries, but no one’s ever been able to document it as a real custom anywhere. Ritual defloration has been documented in a lot of places, but no supposed “lord’s right” to the maidenhead of one of his female serfs. (serfettes?)Paco, what do you use to clean up troll debris? A pacuum cleaner?
Posted by Mary in LA on 2007 06 21 at 06:39 PM • permalink#246
Leftist dogooders in Victorian England…..“self-righteous and morally superior”...... has a topical ring to it, I must say.
Did anyone read the bit in the melbourne pravda today - a condemnation of the siring of Salman Rushdie -unjustified provocation of islam sort of shit…...
Writer’s name was Craven. Seems very appropriate.
Cheers
RodC
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OK, so there’s one. Now if several million more can be so enlightened we’ll be off to a start.
All they need is more education. Better get crackin’ K-Twat.