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A scientific examination of Australian hypocritovists.
"scream like a goth in the sun”?
you are so cruel.
Posted by daddy dave on 2007 04 13 at 10:47 PM • permalinkI would love to see a goth scream in the sun. The authorities, however, frown on forcing people out of their lairs at gunpoint.
Don’t worry about the points, Tim. I got a few myself over the years. They have an expiration date if you’re careful, at least in the US they do. Hope it’s the same in Australia. If not, you’ll just be forced to move here.
The same people who pride themselves on their superior intellect and rational analytical capabilities, will sign anything without thought and without question, if they believe it will help save us from ecological disaster
Posted by Whale Spinor on 2007 04 13 at 10:57 PM • permalinkHey, we must know some of the same people!
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 04 13 at 10:57 PM • permalinkThe same people that want us to catch public transport keep voting for the worst managers of public transport in history (Iemma state government in New South Wales).
Posted by daddy dave on 2007 04 13 at 11:08 PM • permalinkRebeccaH, three years expiration date.
Three years is a LOOOOOOOONG time!
Here you go, NSW Motor Vehicle penalties....
After a background of working for both sides for many years, including under the iron glove of Kevvie, I propose:
That the party of the worker - the ALP - when in government work their public service staff incredibly hard and regularly shit on a nominated fall person to save their own lying useless hides.
Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 13 at 11:22 PM • permalinkAfter the Easter Weekends “Double Demerits”, I too am just one ill timed burnout from having to use **shudder** Public transport. Down with the state!
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 04 13 at 11:31 PM • permalinkTim, you should know that there is no contradiction at all between abortion and saving the planet. To the contrary - the surest way to reduce our future
toxicgreenhouse gas emissions is to abort all pregnancies from now on. After all, as has been amply documented by numerous academics, humans are a cancer on the planet!Therefore, compulsory abortion coupled with euthanasia achieved by handing out free heroin for everyone will ensure that future generations of whales will not be scalded by boiling seas that we will otherwise experience within the next 5 years while desperately clinging to the roofs of our flooded houses.
The same civil rights campaigners are silent on civil rights abuses in Cuba, North Korea, China.
The same civil rights campaigners are silent as local, state and federal bureaucracies grow larger and larger and silently stifle individual rights.
The same civil rights campaigners condone millions of abortions worldwide.
The same secularists condemn the influence of Christian churches which attract primarily left leaning congregations.
Posted by Macosghair on 2007 04 13 at 11:41 PM • permalinkThe same anti-Imus critic and presidential candidate who worries about how racist rants affect his daughters likes to kiss the bottom of rapper “Ludacris”, whose lyrics James Taranto samples:
Ho (Ho)
You’z a Ho, (Ho)
You’z a Ho, I said that you’z a Ho (Ho)
You’z a Ho, (Ho)You’z a Ho, (Ho)
You’z a Ho, I said that you’z a Ho (Ho)You doing Ho activities
With Ho tendencies
Hos are your friends,
Hos are your enemiesDon McLean he aint.
18. C.L.
Why would anyone want to write a song extolling the virtues of a primitive Agricultural impliment is beyond me… bloody folk singers.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 14 at 12:50 AM • permalinkMmmh - a column full of meaty goodness. Maybe there is something to this “Tim Blair” character after all.
But if it weren’t for the hypocrites, what the hell would we do all day?
Looks like the News Ltd legal types are not sweating any buckets at the prospect of having to prove the assertion that Flannery is a serial exaggerator.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 14 at 01:18 AM • permalinkGreat column. It really beggars belief, that a country with a population of only 21 million (approx), can produce so many; hypocrites, loud mouth ideologues, wannabe socialist dictators, whingers, with ‘tha goberment should give it to me’ mentality, also the collective leftard thinking with the parochial, ‘we know better, so do as I say, not as I do’. Your 29 points pretty well covered the lot.
Won’t comment on the driving habits.#24 As we are seeing at the 911 truthers site (some threads down), make no mistake, Australia’s fuckwits are world class.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 14 at 01:20 AM • permalink11. The same people who believe Americans have no sense of humour laugh their heads off at The Simpsons.
It’s not that Americans have no sense of humour. It is just that their sense of humour is completely different to the Australian/British sense of humour. Particularly when it comes to sarcasm or ‘taking the piss’ (if you don’t know what that means, do yourself a favour and learn before reading too many comments around here).
That is why, (and I’m only speculating) if I called Tim and Andrea the same offensive thing, Tim might proudly post it as an update whereas Andrea might ban my arse.
The one exception however, is American comedy written by Jews, which for some reason seems to cross over easily. Take any American comedy enjoyed by Australians and you’ll find it probably had Jewish writers involved somewhere.
Many of the writers of The Simpsons would fall into this category (hence so many Jewish jokes). Ditto Seinfeld (obviously), Woody Allen, Mel Brooks, Whoopi Goldberg. Yes, I know she’s not Jewish, but with a name like Goldberg she should be.
Matt Stone (South Park creator) based Sheila Broslovski (Kyle’s Mum) on his own mother.
30 The same newspaper columnist – me – who is such a psycho on law-and-order issues has just one point left on his licence due to repeated speeding offences.
Whoops.
If I keep my nose clean and avoid those flashing blue and red lights for the next 5 months, I will have a completely clean driving record for the first time since 1995.
Truly.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 04 14 at 02:24 AM • permalinkThe same people who wear “Free David Hicks” T-shirts at polling stations during the NSW election within John Howard’s electorate get offended when I exercise my right to free speech by telling them to get lost.
Posted by Viril Brun on 2007 04 14 at 02:53 AM • permalink#31,
Those folks you refer to are probably lettuce eaters, and would side readily with the Hindus to oppose beef eating.
Though the Hindu attitude toward alcohol may be a more apt similie.
Posted by Steve at the pub on 2007 04 14 at 03:19 AM • permalink#34
Heh. We’ve got stored water on our property. One of my favourite pastimes is standing on the street, hosing a single leaf down the driveway and watching the look of disgust on my neighbours’ faces.
It’s even sweeter when some of them try to ‘remind me’ about the water restrictions and I get to tell them “Actually, this is my water. If you had your own, you wouldn’t need to use your sprinklers at 2am… Oh yes!”
#35 SOCA (Sat on chair amused.)
Man, that’s living.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 04 14 at 04:45 AM • permalinkgood article- very useful
the same people who screech ‘liar’ whenever John Howard says anything that doesn’t fit with their fantasies nod along happily at the fibs of whoppermeister Krudd
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 04 14 at 04:54 AM • permalink#22 “Why would anyone want to write a song extolling the virtues of a primitive Agricultural impliment is beyond me… bloody folk singers. “
Ho ho ho!!
Posted by carpefraise on 2007 04 14 at 05:02 AM • permalink#27
Whoopi Goldberg. Yes, I know she’s not Jewish, but with a name like Goldberg she should be.
Goldberg is a Jew. Not sure if she was born a Jew but she was certainly raised as one. While the vast majority of Jews do have a bloodline going back ancient peoples of Israel, the religion readily accepts converts. Sammy Davis Junior became a Jew after a near-death experience, the one that took his left eye.
Margos Maid:
#24 As we are seeing at the 911 truthers site (some threads down), make no mistake, Australia’s fuckwits are world class.
I’m a 911 truther. Yes, it’s true, the 911 is an excellent sports car. Rear-engined, German precision, high speed fun.
The same people who think the Iraq campaign is misguided to the point of complete disaster are ok with more effort in Afghanistan.
The linked article makes a good case for them being misguided, and a complete disaster.The linked article makes a good case for them being misguided, and a complete disaster.
Why would anyone expect the concept of democracy to be accepted in an Islamic state such as Iraq, where sharia law (complete obedience and submission to Allah and his will as laid out in the Qur’an) is enshrined by the victorious coalition alliance in the Iraqi constitution?
What we should have done is go in there and level every damned temple of Satan (ie. mosque) to the ground.Levelling the enemy was the method favoured by Assad senior of Syria, regarding the city of Hama.
In February 1982 a Muslim Brotherhood revolt broke out in Hama. Ba’ath Party officials were killed and appeals were broadcast from the mosques for a national insurrection. Assad’s retribution was ruthless. The military levelled half of the city, slaughtering an estimated 10,000 to 25,000 people.
It is estimated that between 1982 and 1992 thousands were arrested for political dissent and 10,000 were executed. Amnesty International noted in its most recent report that thousands of political prisoners remained incarcerated, without having had the benefit of a trial, while many more were in exile.
link.
That approach has its attractions, and we may need it in future. If you read and absorb the lessons in Fouad Ajami’s thoughtful and informed article here, it might become clear that continuing along the uncomfortable but ultimately more productive line being pursued in Iraq is preferable. The despondency in Washington and elsewhere being vented by the Democrats and assorted moonbats, as well as by political players all over the world with local agenda (votes) in mind, is not necessarily the dominant paradigm in Iraq itself.I advocate levelling the mosques, the fortresses of Islam, loaded to the minarets with every kind of hostile intent, both physical and idealogical.
WE. ARE. AT. WAR.
War has been declared us by enemies devoid of human feeling as we know.
War has been declared on us by enemies keen to see our total submission to totalitarianism in one form or another, Communism or Islam.Make no mistake, the current situation was designed by the Soviet communists,
Russian FootprintsBy all means we should defend Western Civilization.
Take. Off. The. Gloves.
The same people—Crikey—who use the (welcome) lack of regulatory interference in online journalism to then make an art form of irresponsible journalism, get all high-horse on Helen Coonan for not backing the broadcasting authority in its Allan Jones witch hunt.
Mike_W, patience. I understand where you are coming from, but let’s give them a proper chance - 4 years is not long enough to expect them to finish building a functioning democracy. We (the west) had hundreds of years to get it right. From what I hear, the vast majority of them do want to make it works. We need to finish helping them get rid of the thugs who are making their lives hell. It’s in their best interest, and ours too.
I agree with wreckage, first let’s work on those amongst us who scream “run away!” at every step. One day maybe it will be necessary to take it to another level, but it would be premature to get medieval on them at this stage - even if most of the thugs are still stuck in that same time period.
The same people who claim to be progressive cling to teh failed nostrums of the past.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 04 14 at 10:08 AM • permalink1 The same people who claim to worry most about future generations surviving climate change have no objections at all to abortion – which kills thousands of future Australians every year.
I agree, my female friends get angry when I say this. But surely with the contraception options available today abortions should be going down, not up. The proposal to force these women to look at an ultrasound of their baby, before the abortion, is a good idea. They do it in certain parts of American, and the abortion rate goes down. It doesn’t deny their rights, just forces them to think about it for a moment.
#38 Remember?
Ho! Ho! HO Chi Minh!
Ho! Ho! HO Chi Minh!Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 04 14 at 10:16 AM • permalinkAs to truthers?
Yes, there clearly was a, successful, conspiracy to attack the WTC and Pentagon - by evil muslims.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 04 14 at 10:18 AM • permalink#43 The same people who criticize the US invasion of Iraq demand the US invade Sudan.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 04 14 at 10:21 AM • permalink#4 & 5
“Scream like a goth in the sun?” Not a metaphor that makes much sense in WA. The Perth Goth subspecies hangs around the wall-to-wall concrete heatsink of Forrest Chase and not only doesn’t scream, but doesn’t talk, move or do anything much but emit the sort of BO you can imagine from a combination of 30+ temperatures and black clothing.And best of luck with the driving. I got up to 11 points once, driving an ancient Subaru that would only exceed the speed limit downhill with a favourable wind. I’m still wondering how I managed it.
#20 Bonmot
Careful. I cheered when Hanson was jailed, and jeered when she was released. Political prisoner my asrse! She was a fraud, an independent member who had a large group of supporters and had no right to public funds. No members (persons with voting rights), no party status. No party status, no money.
New Jersey had (has?) a point system, too. When I moved to California I asked someone if there was a point system here also. I was told, yes, and the point was to not get so many tickets that they suspended your license. I haven’t had a ticket since I stopped driving sports cars (my driving habits haven’t changed, only the vehicle).
#24--It really beggars belief, that a country with a population of only 21 million...
Keep in mind that the average IQ is only 100 which means a whole lot of people on this planet are operating with double digit IQs. I think we know who they are.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 04 14 at 11:15 AM • permalinkA native-led demonstration in Cronulla last year where some ‘people of Middle East appearance’ were assaulted was an example of Australians racism, whilst people of the same appearance caught planning top blow up planes full of innocent whites is a valid, even noble way of communicating your grievances.
#61--#43 The same people who criticize the US invasion of Iraq demand the US invade Sudan.
Oh, that’s easily explained. These are the same people who believe that the only time the US should flex it’s military muscle is when we have no direct geopolitical stake in the outcome. Like Kosovo. When military intervention is self-serving, it is verboten.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 04 14 at 11:28 AM • permalinkSlavery is banned because no human has the right to own another human, except in the case of abortion. In that case, a woman owns the other human being just like black slaves were owned last century, and she can choose to do anything she wants with it, over and above anything that was legal with slaves, including murder.
#70--The Nazis also were devoted to the “science” of eugenics, something which is once again rearing its ugly head in certain progressive circles.
#55--4 years is not long enough to expect them to finish building a functioning democracy. We (the west) had hundreds of years to get it right.
So true, and yet even we continue to muck it up. The Founding Fathers laid out a pretty good road map for us. Too bad we didn’t stick to it.
At the close of the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia on September 18, 1787, a Mrs. Powel anxiously awaited the results, and as Benjamin Franklin emerged from the long task now finished, asked him directly: “Well Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” “A republic if you can keep it” responded Franklin.
A Republic, If You Can Keep It, Ron Paul (R-TX), candidate for president
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 04 14 at 11:57 AM • permalinkThe same people who say the super 14 is too slow and protracted...... and then give us MORE Australian referees…
OK serious one...probably already covered…
‘Inter lect tuals’ whom seem to let one know how educated, compassionate and brilliant they are yet places some fricken bird, ferret, exotic worm or piece of pumice with a passing resemblence to one of Clinton’s stools ahead of the millions of African’s who die of Malaria due to their intoduced DDT ban.. Frauds… they don’t give a Damn, they don’t care about Darfur, the massacres occuring at Sydney Football Stadium and when Muslims massacre Muslims… (OK I’d have to admit the last two don’t keep me up at night)
#63
Justin, I’d like you to explain to me why the Labor and Liberal candidates for Bligh have the right to have their campaigns funded by the taxpayer, yet your mate Clover Moore doesn’t. I’d also like you to explain to me how government has the ‘right’ to arbitrarily declare that you and 499 of your fellow travellers aren’t a political party.
If Hanson was charged with submitting a dodgy application to the electoral commission she might have had a case to answer, but to claim it was all a scam to defraud the state is dogs’ bollocks and you know it.
You may also care to explain to me the apolitical nature of the same judge giving Pauline Hanson six years for fraud and a child rapist three years.
No doubt you believe that Alan Jones should be jailed for incitement (of senior citizens) while those who publish books advocating mass murder, and a semi-literate medieval fucktard who mocks rape victims, are merely exercising their right to free speech.
Correct me if I’m wrong on that last point.
By the way, how come government can dictate the content and personnel of a private sector radio station, yet it has no sway over a religious-cultural organization it funds at federal, state and local levels, and grants tax free status to?
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The same people who want to ban fast food want to legalise heroin?
The same people (hippies) who are hung up about the chemicals in processed food don’t think twice about putting illegal narcotics, containing fuck knows what, into their bodies?
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Bikini cricket…..just because.
So… you need some kind of license to drive...?
Oops.
No, wait, I can work around this...um… “¡Soy el indocumentado!”
(Officials of California law enforcement are invited to ignore this post...)
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 04 14 at 02:29 PM • permalinkbikini cricket—women in bikinis standing around doing nothing for very long periods of time? Best use the SFP50…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 04 14 at 03:46 PM • permalinkSlightly OT:
Flummery declared that he invested in GeothermiaThe SMH & Tom Allard have vaulted right past tabloid and achieved comic book status with this schlock-horror piece called Climate Wars.
Oh yes I forgot - the same people who scream about America wanting to control everuthing always demand that America fix whatever is wrong anywhere.
Posted by carpefraise on 2007 04 14 at 06:27 PM • permalink#82 My jury’s out on that one Kae. Yes, some do but for others, it’s just a method of contraception.
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 04 14 at 06:44 PM • permalinkWimpy, what you say is true and it’s wrong for abortion to be used as a method of contraception (contra-ception - wrong word for an abortion), however I think that most women who make that decision do so after exhausting all their other options; it’s not made lightly.
I would counsel any young woman to never get herself into a situation where that decision could be considered as an option.#51, thanks for that link :(.
The amount of Jew-hatred in this world is incredible...I really wonder what they would do without Jews. Tear up a few cats?
Posted by carpefraise on 2007 04 14 at 06:56 PM • permalinkReal Hypocrisy and a total disgrace. I see in today’s Sunday Herald Sun (15/4/07), a pro terror box DVD set, originally seized by the Federal Police has been given a PG rating by the Department of Film and Censorship Board. This charming bit of ‘entertainment’ is the product of one Sheik Feiz Mohammad, who amongst other things encourages children to martyr themselves and refers to Jews as pigs. Some of this nation’s Government Departments really are bloody feral, no doubt about it, obviously staffed with career left overs from the Whitlam years, that have been in there for way too long.
Shamelessly stolen from Bolts blog!!
Terry Macbeth Lane strikes again!!
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 14 at 08:11 PM • permalinkThe same people who are likely to commute a man’s death sentence under sharia law are the same people who carry out the sentence of flogging on the man’s step-daughters for their part in the crime.
The man, who had 11 children from illicit relationships with his four stepdaughters, admitted his guilt but said he was the father of only some of the children, Gulf News said.
The four stepdaughters had been sentenced and received 80 lashes each, it added.
Like most Arab states, the UAE implements Islamic sharia laws, but rarely executes convicted criminals.
# 82
A fried had an abortion several years ago, since the abortion she constantly tells me how old he would be. I asked if she had known more about the child would she have kept him. She said yes. She said this talk about the unborn child being a foetus dehumanized her son and made it easier. Looking at an ultrasound, when the mother has made up her mind, would make little difference.
#80
I believe it was Dr Evelyn Scott AO speaking on ABC Radio Sydney 2BL in the late 1980s.
Glad she told ‘em straight.Hmm, I’m probably going to be lynched for saying this, but hey, I’m a lawyer, I’m used to being hated. I see a fair amount of hypocrisy on both sides of politics. I acknowledge that there’s a heck of a lot of truth in the examples set out by Tim Blair.
But before people get too self-congratulatory, some of these points can be turned on their head. How about:
The same people who decry scaremongering about global warming and climate change support scaremongering with regard to the threat of Islam and terrorism.
[Granted, radical Islam and terrorism are a more realistic threat in my eyes, but I can’t stand scaremongering - it leads to unjust and ill-thought-out responses.]
The same people who criticise Sheikh Hilally for saying all western women are “cat’s meat” support Alan Jones’ comment implying that all Middle Eastern men are rapists.
[Each man makes unfair generalisations about a particular group to satisfy the prejudices of his audience. Have written a post on it here.]
The same people who stress “family values” and the importance of family also support economic rationalism which leads to decreased job security, and family instability.
[There’s a growth of contract work, lack of job security, no loyalty between employer and employee any more: it all comes down to the bottom line, not to people.]
There’s hypocrisy on both sides of politics. A plague on both their houses, say I.
Now I am going to go off to a birthday party. I look forward to seeing your responses on my return (not too many lawyer jokes, please).
Posted by Legal Eagle on 2007 04 14 at 10:53 PM • permalinkLE,
Q: How many lawyers does it take to change a light bulb?
A: How many can you afford?The same people who decry scaremongering about global warming and climate change support scaremongering with regard to the threat of Islam and terrorism.
1. I don’t think too many commentators here are ‘decrying the scaremongering’ about GW; we enjoy the simple pleasure of poking fun at it and its pseudo-intellectual supporters.
2. Global warming as described by Mr Gore et Cie and and climate change are two different topics. Some research is often quite useful.Cheers
Posted by J.M. Heinrichs on 2007 04 15 at 12:04 AM • permalink#83 Well Flummery sure did say he invested in it, whatever that means. Maybe he means he has invested in Geodynamics. And for the first time (and hopefully the last) I actually listened to the man. For starters I have difficulty in listening to people who add a ‘you know’ to every second or third sentence. To me that type of speaking greatly detracts from the speaker and what he is saying. Still that would fit with Flummery’s ideas, such as powering the whole of Australia from geothermal energy and finding half the targeted emissions reductions of 50% (or was that 60%) between now and whenever from energy efficiency improvements.
The man is an idiot and has no understanding of what he is talking about. Simply there are huge technical and logistical problems with his dream of an Australia powered by geothermal energy, i.e., it won’t happen. Harnessing geothermal energy is not easy and there is a main challenge of how to efficiently extract energy from a heat source that is at a relatively low temperature when compared to a modern thermal power station. (Oh dear we have a few laws of physics here with which to contend). And his other assertion that half his required(?) reduction in greenhouse emissions can come from energy efficiency improvements is utter crap. I’ve worked in this area for years and continually hear these sorts of claims, but savings like this just don’t exist across the board. It’s bullshit.
As I said before, the man is an idiot and his rambling should be treated as such as should those of fellow sycophant Phillip Adams.
#97 - I don’t think anyone posting would say that hypocrisy is the sole province of the left. But its much easier to think of examples from the left. And most of them seem to come out of a leftist’s need to lecture others - out of their need to be seen to be doing ‘good’ and to congratulate themselves for doing so. And a leftist propensity to live in an isolated bubble. Your average rightie lives in the real world and doesn’t give a rats what others think of them.
Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 15 at 02:58 AM • permalinkI have a problem with the hypocrisy argument against the GW faithful. The flaw is that it will encourage and reward the even more fanatical and pious representatives of this bizzare cult.
We need to be careful what we we wish for when we tell these zealots to practise what they preach.
I hope that the (sensible) hypocrisy wil continue, but I fear that growing anti-consumerism will be the sleeper that destroys life as we know it. It seems more certain and more urgent than any climate problem.The flaw is that it will encourage and reward the even more fanatical and pious representatives of this bizzare cult.
I don’t consider that a flaw. The point is that stripping away the non-fanaticals will leave the hardcore cultists less powerful than they appear to be right now, because their goals ultimately can only be achieved by keeping (the usually fickle) public opinion on their side long enough*. Stuff like the AGW scare-mongering doesn’t work (especially as politicians are concerned) if the “strength in numbers” aspect is gone.
* EU area excepted, naturally.
#91 TJM - a prescient example of these people would have to be Frank Walker who begins his review of a long ago banned book about Gallipoli in today’s SMH with.......
“Given today’s censorship controls this is a very timely book.”
Imagine the sheer gall of writing that on the same day that the PG rating of the pro-terror DVD is reported.#98, like the joke!
Yes, I agree that there is a difference between real science and the stuff that Gore parrots.
#100, it is true that by taking the moral high ground, some left wingers invite people to take pot shots at them. It’s one of the things which irritates me about the left - they think they are more righteous than others, and thus they will not listen to alternative views. However, while it’s worthwhile pointing out the inconsistencies, I think it’s dangerous to laugh too hard, because then you end up sounding a touch righteous yourself.
Posted by Legal Eagle on 2007 04 15 at 03:44 AM • permalinkLegal Eagle
What gets my goat is when inaction is promoted as a humane thing to do. Case in point being Iraq.
Much better to leave them under a family of sadistic despots because they only kill you if you disagree with them?
I have NEVER seen a lefty make a blunt statement allong the lines of “Saddam is gone, good riddance, what can we do to help Iraq?”.
Instead its anti Americanism and opposition to the Iraqi government freely (as possible at the moment) elected for the first time by the Iraqis themselves.
Makes me sick.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 04 15 at 03:53 AM • permalinkLike Rush, I’m waiting for the book to be written, “The World’s Great Moderates.”
Posted by dean martin on 2007 04 15 at 04:18 AM • permalink#78 I had an uncle who flew his own Cessna up and down the western US for 20 years before finally deciding one day, “I might as well get a license.”
Posted by dean martin on 2007 04 15 at 04:58 AM • permalinkWhen young, I understood the left as championing individual rights and freedoms while the right advocated autocratic high handed policies. I could be wrong, but my working assumptions have gone 360 degrees since.
Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 04 15 at 05:17 AM • permalink#110 & #111. As a kid, I grew up not having much in-common with the Left. When you see their stance on National Socialism, until “the Dolf” ran a number on the Soviet Union in 1942, to Vietnam, the Berlin Wall, China and Eastern Europe in general, their hypocrisy is amazing. From the UN to “democratic socialist governments” until today, they always seem to have a self loathing of what little non regulated life we have in the western world.
Like Islamists, they have a tendency to rot the body politic from the inside, with propaganda and bovine feces. That is why maybe in the future, you may soon see a call for the regulation of websites around the world, I suppose. No prizes where that will come from of course.#77 monaro
I belong to a political party (conservative), and as a paid member I enjoy voting rights at a branch level as well as the right to stand as a member of the executive counsel, even as party president if I so desire. That is was makes me part of a political party. People who pay ‘membership’ to One Nation have no vote at any level, and the executive comprises of sitting members only. That makes the ‘members’ supporters and One Nation a collection of independents who can claim individually to vote payments, but not as a political party. These points are of course open to legal interpretation and I only voice my opinion. As to the disparity between Hanson’s sentence and that of child rapists, let’s get serious. Hanson’s sentence was way over the top, probably to garantee a review and release. Rapists (child or otherwise) should do no jail time what-so-ever. They should enter a treatment program. I’ve heard lead works wonders on reducing the libido of sex offences. Applied behind the ear. With a 22.
On Jones and his recent run in with the powers that be. They have to justify their existence and Jones, Laws et al are easy targets. Considering the censorship board just gave a PG rating to DVDs promoting martyrdom, yeah, what they did to Jones stinks. Don’t get me wrong, I believe in the right for islamofascists to become martyrs.....just on OUR terms!
#99 wand
Thanks for the input: I too have had some involvement with power generation.
At least Flummery is putting his money where his mouth is, but he should also declare openly that he has a vested interest in the concept that he is promoting.
From my reading, there hasn’t been a self sufficient geothermal plant to date: good luck to the Aussies (Flummery has mentioned Petratherm in an article linked to in the thread I referenced above) otherwise he may do some of his dough.
Flummery’s “you know“‘s and Phatty’s lip smacking over the mic does make listening rather difficult.
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