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New Zealand’s Kyoto problems received little notice last year, but the Protocol of the Damned is still an issue:

A conference of energy experts has been told implementing the Kyoto Protocol would impose a huge cost on New Zealand.

This country has agreed to return net emissions of greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels by 2012.

Veteran energy consultant, John Beckett, says successful implementation of the protocol could set the Government back by $3 billion in buying carbon credits on the international market. Most of that money would go to Russia.

Rubles from NZ government rubes. Sweet deal.

(Via J. F. Beck, currently rich in credit-quality posts)

Posted by Tim B. on 07/20/2006 at 10:01 AM
  1. How much of the tax-payers’ money is Helen Clarke willing to spend before admitting she’s been conned?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 20 at 10:12 AM • permalink

  2. All of it.

    (Jeez, richard, ask a hard one next time!)

    Posted by Rob C. on 2006 07 20 at 10:24 AM • permalink

  3. Clean NZ will have to pay 3 billion to Russia who right up until the end of the cold war never have a shit about the environment and pumped all kinds of crap straight from factories into rivers.  Go Kyoto.

    Posted by Melanie on 2006 07 20 at 10:46 AM • permalink

  4. set the Government back by $3 billion in buying carbon credits

    Let’s not lose sight of the big picture. This will be a great incentive to lower carbon emissions. That was the point in the first place, remember? We have to punish ourselves until we change our ways.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 20 at 10:50 AM • permalink

  5. Whose head is going to roll when they finally realize that global warming/cooling/climate change isn’t man-made?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 07 20 at 10:51 AM • permalink

  6. RebeccaH:

    Whose head is going to roll when they finally realize that global warming/cooling/climate change isn’t man-made?

    That will happen when facts start to matter.  It never will.

    Posted by Melanie on 2006 07 20 at 11:01 AM • permalink

  7. So the crappier the country, the more money it gets? What a load.

    Posted by SoberHT on 2006 07 20 at 11:08 AM • permalink

  8. “Carbon credits”? Oh, baby, this has got Paco Cayman Islands Invesment Trust written all over it!!!

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 20 at 11:10 AM • permalink

  9. #7 you got it. Polluters get punished until they stop polluting. (that is, if you call carbon dioxide “pollution”). That’s what you sign up for with Kyoto. It’s basically a massive, worldwide tax on industry.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 20 at 11:21 AM • permalink

  10. #8 I knew you were involved in this, Paco. I knew it.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 20 at 11:24 AM • permalink

  11. Sorry, Paco, I just cornered the market in carbon credits, thanks to my new best friends in Lagos, Nigeria. All it took was my savings account numbers, social security number, 401K account numbers, drivers’ license number, and a facsimile of my signature, and I’m on my way to BIG BUCKS, BABY! One yacht is not going to do it, I’m going to buy two, and control one of them by radio control! Buy Prince Badar’s shack in Colorado! Buy an International Harvester Loadstar with a pickup bed on the back for around town! Bet you’re jealous!!

    Posted by Rob C. on 2006 07 20 at 11:24 AM • permalink

  12. #11: Er, good luck, Rob, with your Nigerian investments. And in a week or two, if they don’t work out, give us a call. We can put you into carbon credits - or the even more lucrative charcoal debits - for as little as everything you own. And remember: with Paco Investments, we’ll treat your money like our own.

    Posted by paco on 2006 07 20 at 11:36 AM • permalink

  13. If you follow the link to Becks site, scroll down to the entry entitled “Wankfest”. I have now, officially, heard everything. ( with no desire to have SEEN everything)

    Posted by debi L. on 2006 07 20 at 11:47 AM • permalink

  14. The TimBlair community is influential, so perhaps someone here can tell me how to contact Helen Clarke.
    I’m willing to sell my carbon credits to New Zealand.

    Posted by Jim,MtnViewCA,USA on 2006 07 20 at 12:19 PM • permalink

  15. Timmy. Timmy. Timmy. How many more lessons from the Beige Avengers will it take to make you pay some respect?

    Posted by phoenix55 on 2006 07 20 at 12:33 PM • permalink

  16. Everyone just revert to horse and buggies over in NZ and it will be problem solved i reckon….  $3 billion big ones saved….  these people could take a few lessons from watching news clip of the gaza strip where at least one horse and buggy going by in the background is obligatory!

    Posted by casanova on 2006 07 20 at 01:00 PM • permalink

  17. I WALK to work, and it’s REALLY hot outside.

    I expect at least a few bucks from those damn Kiwis and all their farting sheep.

    zeppenwolf at paypal.  Thank you.

    Posted by zeppenwolf on 2006 07 20 at 02:15 PM • permalink

  18. Looks like the Russians are trying to drum up some more business.

    Posted by 2dogs on 2006 07 20 at 04:21 PM • permalink

  19. Er, um sorry to spoil the party, but I bought New Zealand (in administration) last week from the Liquidator.  Got a great price, and my very own rugby team.  NOTE: advertising space for rent.  The “_____ All Blacks”.  Or the “______ All Reds” if that’s your corporate colour.

    Applications for our newly minted carbon credits can be made at this blogspace.  Crisp $100 bills only.

    Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 20 at 04:28 PM • permalink

  20. Mr Gorbachev, 75, was the Soviet president from 1985-91 and he was awarded the 1990 Nobel Peace Prize for his role in ending the Cold War.

    Shouldn’t that be for “his role in losing the Cold War”?

    BTW, I hope that your Governor-General is going just to kick him in the nuts. He can rationalize it for the USSR dumping nuclear waste in the Arctic Ocean.

    Posted by andycanuck on 2006 07 20 at 06:55 PM • permalink

  21. And those New Zealanders haven’t factored in the problem of the gas emissions from all those sheep yet.  They’re dooomed..

    Posted by Barrie on 2006 07 20 at 07:33 PM • permalink

  22. 21 Barrie: The NZeds have bovine emissions under control. See fart tax for the latest developments.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2006 07 20 at 09:55 PM • permalink

  23. That’s about $800 per head of population.  Is it a yearly tax?

    Posted by dodgybob on 2006 07 20 at 10:15 PM • permalink

  24. Shouldn’t that be for “his role in losing the Cold War”?

    I think one could argue that it was lost by the guys in office before him, and Gorbachev really just faced up to the inevitable outcome and provided for a semi-orderly transition. So while “ending the Cold War” overstates the case, so does “losing”, IMO.

    Posted by PW on 2006 07 20 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  25. I was surrounded by fat (and annoying) bureaucrats on a flight to Canberra yesterday and happened to overhear two guys talking about a “carbon card” which would be issued to all motorists. The idea is that every motorist would get a carbon allowance and if they did not use all their allowance in a given time period, they could sell the excess to other people who drove more often.

    I think they heard my derisive snort because they shut up after that.

    Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 07 20 at 10:36 PM • permalink

  26. PW — So basically, he got the Admiral Doenitz Award?  Just like Gerry Ford got to preside over Johnson and Nixon’s disaster in Vietnam?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 20 at 10:40 PM • permalink

  27. This unexpected debt could be disastrous for New Zealand.  Why, they might have to sell off their Air Force to pay for — oh, wait a minute…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 20 at 10:42 PM • permalink

  28. New Zealand will have an Air Force again when jets and bombers come as hybrids.

    Posted by PW on 2006 07 20 at 10:52 PM • permalink

  29. #28 Don’t worry PW, under the Closer Economic Whatshumacallit (CEW) between Australia and NZ, we will supply them with our hover car technology

    Posted by entropy on 2006 07 20 at 11:05 PM • permalink

  30. #27, Maybe we’ll just sell them our f-111’s once we get the JSF up and running.

    #28, Or if they can find a way to make them run on hopes and dreams…

    So Kyoto means the Kiwis have to hand over 3.15% of last years GDP to Russia?  Seriously now who thought this one up?

    Speaking of the Shakey Isles, is there a more tree hugging country outside europe?  (All Blacks excluded of course)

    Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 07 21 at 12:21 AM • permalink

  31. No-one cares about New Zealand. Let’s move on.

    Posted by Daniel San on 2006 07 21 at 02:09 AM • permalink

  32. So, what happens to a country that’s surrendered its sovereignty to the UN in this Kyoto deal, and fails to meet the obligations?

    Do a predetermined percentage of that country’s population have to give themselves up to be processed into a spreadable, high protein cheese-like substance to be given to starving folk? or something?

    Posted by Grimmy on 2006 07 21 at 12:51 PM • permalink

  33. Do a predetermined percentage of that country’s population have to give themselves up to be processed into a spreadable, high protein cheese-like substance to be given to starving folk?

    Grimmy, do you know something that we don’t?  ;-D

    Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 21 at 02:43 PM • permalink

  34. Yeesh, Grimmy.  I think they call it vegemite.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2006 07 21 at 05:08 PM • permalink

  35. Oi, Dont knock Vegemite, or we’ll put you into the people squasher machine… :P

    Posted by The_Wizard_of_WOZ on 2006 07 22 at 12:27 AM • permalink

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