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Brazilians rise up against imperialist invaders:
Hundreds of loggers and angry residents have surrounded eight Greenpeace members who tried to leave an Amazon town with a scorched tree trunk for an exhibit on global warming, the environmental group said Wednesday.
The activists are holed up in the makeshift headquarters of the federal environmental agency in the town of Castelo dos Sonhos, Greenpeace campaigner Andre Muggiati said. They are being protected by police and army soldiers.
Let’s see how long they hold out. So, what’s to become of the global warming exhibit?
[Greenpeace representative] Marcelo Marquesini said loggers had hauled the tree trunk away and told him they planned to make it into a monument in a public square.
“They’re probably going to use it to commemorate the day they expelled Greenpeace from the town,” he added.
That is the most beautiful thing I’ve read in years.
(Via Blue State Sil)
Gawd, I love Brazil.
I’m flying down on saturday; hopefully they’ll still be some fun left for me!
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 10 17 at 10:36 PM • permalinkpaco, you’ve got me whistling “le marseillaise”...
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 10 17 at 11:00 PM • permalinkSo vigilantes and lynchings are good, as long as one hates the targets. Any beheadings yet?
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 17 at 11:00 PM • permalinkOn Tuesday, the Greenpeace activists tried to haul away a badly burned fallen tree trunk for an exhibit on global warming in Rio de Janeiro and Sao Paulo, Muggiati said.
Soooooooo, Gerbil Worming is now so advanced that that it is causing trees to combust spontaneously?Damn, and here I am clearing my paddocks with matches and kero.
So the action is “futile” eh Nic. Seems to have created publicity for little cost.
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 17 at 11:11 PM • permalinkEu compro muito cafe brasileiro, o grando e famoso paco! e si voce quer, eu mando muito na voce!
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 10 17 at 11:11 PM • permalinkAny beheadings yet?
No, in spite of the fact that there’s something of a head hunting tradition in the Amazon, IIRC. This says positive things about the denizens of Castelo dos Sonhos.
And please remember, Hero, that Greenpeace routinely uses disruptive tactics in their demonstrations, up to and including placing themselves at some risk, not to mention shutting down major industrial operations. Oh, and are usually illegal to boot (e.g., trespassing, or destruction of private property). That rather fits the definition of “vigilantism”, methinks.
One would think that facing the ire of people angry at their actions is simply another risk that members of Greenpeace are willing to accept in their quest to save the world from the ravages of humanity.
That all we hear is whining from Greenpeace is evidence of their double standards, under the “All Animals Are Equal, But Some Are More Equal Than Others” doctrine.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 17 at 11:13 PM • permalinkSeems to have created publicity for little cost.
And much hypocrisy. But, hey, Hero, keep up the good work!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 17 at 11:14 PM • permalinkRe #6, paco, the only problem with the sinking of the Rainbow Warrior was that one person was killed, although that was a photographer stupid enough to enter a sabotaged vessel in order to rescue his equipment.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 17 at 11:17 PM • permalinkMr. Bingley, have a good time in Brazil!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 17 at 11:18 PM • permalinkWell Hero Schema, lefties have been saying for many years, decades even, that they mean to get their way by any means necessary. Sometimes they even use it as a motto, as with those who wanted to bring about the defeat of the US in Vietnam (and who succeeded, to the immense cost of the people of Vietnam and Cambodia). Lefties are right up there with cheering on “popular” violence against their opponents, even in the USA where indulgent campus administrations sometimes let leftie students use violence against their targets. So these lefties are getting a taste of their own medicine. It seems that they are not too keen on the “sauce for the gander” side of the old saying when it comes to The People reacting to their oppressors.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2007 10 17 at 11:18 PM • permalinkSo these lefties are getting a taste of their own medicine
So true, so true! And that’s what makes this so deliciously ironic, Michael. I could eat this by the bowl!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 17 at 11:21 PM • permalinkSo vigilantes and lynchings are good, as long as one hates the targets. Any beheadings yet?
No, by all accounts, the brave Greenpeace militaristas peacefully left town without lynching or beheading anyone. But remember, these are the same ecowarriors who were trying to ram Japanese whaling ships last summer without regard for the safety of the crews. They love trees and animals, but they hate humans.
What gives? Those third world types seem to be so touchy about keeping their livelihoods and feeding their families.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 17 at 11:26 PM • permalinkMr. Bingley, jaboticaba is a native of southern Brazil and they are in season now. If you have not tried the weird but delicious fruit, there may be an opportunity while you are in Brazil.
They flourish here in SE Queensland and our one tree gives us at least three crops through summer.
I suspect they could be used for making a passable wine.8 Greenpeace members escorted from Amazon town after being trapped by loggers
“How can Ibama allow Greenpeace to do this type of extraction when they’re not even capable of approving our management plans?” community leader Vilson Ketterman told the newspaper. He was referring to plans loggers must file to show their operations meet basic environmental standards.
So vigilantes and lynchings are good, as long as one hates the targets. Any beheadings yet?
vigilantes - local people protesting peacefully cannot be called vigilantes
lynchings - nothing of the sort
hate - nope, not there either
targets - me thinks you have this backwards
beheadings - one could say the greenies lose their heads on occasion, figuratively speaking, but not relevant to this discussionbtw they wanted a burned tree to protest global warming
I guess they know an old tree does less to absorb co2 than a new tree growing and processing co2. EVIL farmers!!
I do believe the Amazon should be locked up and preserved as much as possible - it is already - I guess it is a question of how much more should be preserved.
Well that’s me done - enjoy the coming weekend while I show off my baby to my sister in Sydney.
#29 Pogria. This one was bought from a nursery and I’m not sure of the propagation used. But many seedlings have grown underneath the tree from dropped fruit.
The tiny flowers appear only on the trunks and you have to get your head inside the foliage to see them, or the fruit. The photo was taken yesterday and this summer’s first crop is just reaching maturity.#34
targets - me thinks you have this backwards
The way it read it looked like (he?) was advocating for the villagers ...Hero Schema
What’s this, a pun on the Manhattan Project, Little Boy?Haven’t those fascist thugs at Greenpeace ever heard of dialogue?
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 18 at 12:10 AM • permalinkExtreme environmentalists and the policies they promote almost always hurt developing countries.
Who knows how many million children died due to Rachel Carson’s lies? I recently saw a documentary about a free medical clinic in Africa that could not treat patients after dark because the UN was mandated to only provide them with ‘renewable’ energy sources- the solar cells that powered the refrigerator for whole blood could not power lights at night. So, if you are injured at night in that district, hopefully you can last out the night until the sun comes up. The doctor said a small gas generator would supply all their energy needs, but it was forbidden by UN regs.
I guess its all part of the Earth First philosophy. The more humans who die, the better for the planet, since we are a virus that is killing our host (Mama Gaia).
This could be the stary of something big - there really ought to be an International Sod Off Swampy Day.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 18 at 12:17 AM • permalinkThe more humans who die, the better for the planet, since we are a virus that is killing our host (Mama Gaia).
Just so, docweasel. Greenpeace is going down that road, it seems to me. So if they have to dodge angry loggers, that’s their problem. After all, they could always address the human problem in a more personal direction by offing themselves.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 18 at 12:24 AM • permalink#6
That’s a low blow.He he he.
#18
And please remember, Hero, that Greenpeace routinely uses disruptive tactics in their demonstrations, up to and including placing themselves at some risk
I don’t give a flying fig if they risk their lives, it’s the lives of others that these fools put at risk with their ridiculous and dangerous ‘protests’.
Hiroshima, it’s OK to laugh and point at a bit of poetic justice.Here you go, Pogs:Australian Tropical fruit, and more here.
Bingley, paco - as I don’t have to tell you two, the town where this went down is named “Castle of Dreams”. Cool. Weird, but cool.
Dave, and Infidel Tiger - actually it was Barzan al-Tikriti, Saddams’ half-brother, who lost his head at the end, probably because the failed to account for Barzan’s serious health problems, which almost certainly weakened his bones enough to cause the unfortunate glitch. (There’s a leak of unimportant and obscure inside info, for those who care) It was no lynching, though -Barzan’s role in the Dujayl case easily justified the capital sentence.
I don’t give a flying fig if they risk their lives, it’s the lives of others that these fools put at risk with their ridiculous and dangerous ‘protests’.
Correct, kae. But when you look from the perspective of the Greenpeace loons, they voluntarily accept risk. Stupid risk, since it endangers others (as you note), and it’s ultimately pointless as well, but risk nonetheless. For the environment, natch.
But if they accept risk from one direction “for the environment”, they ought to be accepting it from any direction. Or else they are merely wannabes and posers who run away when genuine risk rears its ugly head.
Which we already knew, but hey, it’s nice adding some more confirmatory evidence to the “Sod off, swampy!” folder.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 18 at 02:14 AM • permalink(US) NWF ‘tards visiting the ‘melting glaciers’ in Greenland.
Why do they think the Vikings named it ‘Greenland’, not ‘Iceland’, FFS?Beyond parody:
Daily flights direct from Baltimore to Greenland (‘Greenhouse gases’, hmmm?)
An iceberg from Greenland sunk the Titanic. (The natural frozen precipitation cycle).Tim B, hurry up with the new posts so I can be the last one to post in this topic.
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Send my regards to your babelicious friend.
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 18 at 04:53 AM • permalinkClever bastards. Look at the monument they built from the burning log.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 18 at 05:00 AM • permalinkOT The Ruddster finally accepts
He doesn’t sound that confident though -apparently he’s going to “attend” - no mention of debating - and “Federal Labor wants three debates…”
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 10 18 at 05:18 AM • permalinkLet the Brazilians live in poverty and sqwualor so long as their trees keep generating Oxgen for us!
I guess that was the Greenpeace plan.
No! Wait! We forgot the “carbon credits” plan can come to the rescue!
They could get paid to just sit around and do nothing, in the biggest welfare scheme the world has ever known!!!!Posted by daddy dave on 2007 10 18 at 05:29 AM • permalink#66 - He’s going to stand at the back and heckle hinself.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 10 18 at 05:34 AM • permalink1. Let’s hope that the Tasmanians rise up against nimbyrialist invaders!
2. Don Imus can only be rehabilitated with the help of a good hairdresser.
3. #66 - MM: sounds like the debate is over, or that Kevi is over the debate. A party which was unelectable until he took over? Give me a break. It should still be unelectable. We shall see.Previous Imperialist invaders came with the high moral ground, because they were searching for knowledge and pushing back the boundaries. Greenpeace et al. Only think that they have the high moral ground. Instead they drift from one coordinated hug oneself, dishonest, carnival of deception to another.
Skeeter, the jaboticaba is just the weirdest looking tree…
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 10 18 at 06:54 AM • permalinkIt’s because it is International Year of the Log, not to be confused with the 2008 UN International Year of the Spud, which is happening real soon ... how fritening ... the International Year of the PACO is being discussed at an UN sub-committee and will be announced when a spare International Year, or if lucky, a Day becomes available ...
I probably shouldn’t mention this, but I am on a Presbyterian Sub-Committee Task Force trying to squeeze out at least an International Fortnight Of Paco resolution.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 10 18 at 08:01 AM • permalinkBunch of touchy, pigmy savages. Why don’t they just go back to hunting monkeys with blowguns and forget about all these 1st World™ means of income? They lived in the jungles for thousands of years. Should be good enough for em.
Excuse me a moment, I need to crank up the heat a tad, my skinny-boy decaf latte (no foam) is developing a chill…
/Environazi
Mr Bingley, yeah. I wonder how it evolved hiding its flowers and fruit like that.
What is it protecting them from, and what species does it attract to do the fertilisation of flowers and dispersal of seed?
On Sept 3 the budding flowers looked like this. Note the green fruit from a previous flowering. Six days later, the flowers had opened.#78
I like the quote in the article where the great pretender said that they had to be “responsible, prudent, conservative fiscal managers”. I think that ‘fiscal conservative’ is just a formula of words he has learned, like an idiot who is trying to impress someone but is very conscious of how limited their knowledge is.
I imagine his tax policy, when released, will amount to nothing more than a sentence scrawled on the back of an envelope, in crayon, reading “We will do fiscally and conservativey things in all fiscal and/or conservative areas. Also do not forget to buy milk.”Posted by Toiling Mass on 2007 10 18 at 08:28 AM • permalinkVigilantes? Beheadings? The Saddam Swing is pretty catchy, but will it play in Penrith?
Worth remembering that the gross offence by Greenpeace was to move a log. Moving a log?
Fetch Blackadder immediately.
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 18 at 08:50 AM • permalinkNow can I have the last word please? Pretty Please? With sugar?
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 18 at 08:51 AM • permalinkYup Hero. You are correct. All they wanted was to remove a log.
The log of self-sustainment. The log of progress. The log of moving your society out of a grass hut and into a solid structured home (with running water and electricity no less). It is hard to imagine why these soiled Brazilian savages should get so spun up about something so trivial.Pogria, I’m a local, but not in Penrith. I just wanted a dinky di place name to road-test the Saddam Swing in. I think it’s a loser.
Texas Bob, the Reuters article says that the indians are being dispossed by loggers and ranchers, not elevated.
Just what’s wrong again with scrutinising whether business keeps to its word about logging and other practises. I mean lots of people here talk about being mugged by reality. Surely one of those realities is scrutiny to keep everyone honest.
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 18 at 09:19 AM • permalinkSurely one of those realities is scrutiny to keep everyone honest.
No doubt about that, Hero. The Brazilian government appears to be doing so, although I gather that Brazilian federal environmental agency is an unpopular group amongst the locals. I do wonder just how efficient the federals are…..and how corrupt. Might be some of that anger and frustration from the ranchers and loggers is genuine, eh?
It’s possible that the Brazilian officials just got a dose of reality as well.
And finally, Greenpeace walks around with their nose in the air. They earned being run out of town. Maybe this will larn them some manners.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 18 at 09:39 AM • permalink#66
Per Lateline: the Rudder has agreed to the debate and concedes it may be the only one.
Dug himself a hole with the debate challenge - even the ABC hackademic said when the Rudder issued even the youtube debate challenge he did so believing that Howard wouldn’t accept the challenge.Expecting an ashen-faced lil grey fella Sunday night ...
Some free advice for Kevin in regard to the upcoming debate. Impress the audience with a symbolic gesture illustrating the poverty of your childhood by entering the chamber in a pedal car, equipped with a pillow and blanket. Instant sympathy, guaranteed.
#101 Damn you Paco! I had just taken a mouthful of water when I read that. Now I’m going to need a new keyboard. Thanks!
BTW and OT, does anyone know of a good software to recover files off a USB that thinks it’s corrupted? There is software that can do it, but I’m not sure it’s worth paying $45 for one file.
#102 Ash
Does the USB drive still work OK*?
Suggest a private email e.g. to Mr Lewis who may help (IT pro, I believe; I’m a more general ICT chappie but cud help if all else fails).*A colleague appeared to have deleted a hidden system file from one, rendering it useless, but the retailer happily exchanged it (back when 1GB cost c.$130) but had no crucial data to recover.
Oh, by the way, Lyle? Your squirrel song was going through my head all night, all day today, and all night tonight. It got so bad that I turned the PA on and sang it. Then, I wasn’t the only person suffering. But that thing it still stuck in my head! How does it get out?
I’ve tried all kinds of songs!
What did Greenpeace expect? They went to a Third World country and tried to steal the natives’ bestest stick…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 10 18 at 10:39 AM • permalink#105 It registers on the system, and because it’s a friend’s USB, not mine, I wasn’t as worried as I could be about it. But she has enough trouble getting Microsoft Word to work, so I assumed she merely meant when she said it didn’t work, that she’d stopped her USB from reading. Instead, it wants a format.
With all of her boyfriend’s business details on it. However, when it registers the USB details, it comes up with 0% used, and the like. That’s not normal, but you know that.
It’s driving me crazy, because I need that file to get on with my own work.
#95 That’s nice Hero, but in all honesty I haven’t read any Reuters article on the topic and the ranchers and loggers are the Brazilians I am referring to.
Scrutiny is absolutely necessary. The problem is who is scrutinizing. Who sent Greenpeace to Brazil and under what authority? Who gave Greenpeace the authority to determine the legality of anything? Who made them the official keeper of earth? Who scrutinizes their agenda? So pardon me if I don’t get all sobby when these self righteous nitwits get their tails in a jam from moralizing over everyone under their own authority.#108 Ash
You’ve prolly tried a Google search and it’s come up with a lot of ‘free’ aids which aren’t.
Here’s a WINXP related solution from the second page of the search.
It could be WINXP’s USB device registration that’s corrupted, not the drive itself - do you have another PC to try it in?#109 Texas bob, they derive their authority from Gaia and the Lorax.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2007 10 18 at 11:42 AM • permalinkA few regrettable words missing from this report.
Tar
Feather
Railroad
Posted by ThinAndBritish on 2007 10 18 at 11:47 AM • permalink“Surely one of those realities is scrutiny to keep everyone honest.”
Does Hero speak of Algore’s Film of The Many Lies?
Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 10 18 at 01:27 PM • permalink#102 Ash—TechRepublic.com has lots of free utilities to recover files. Those USB sticks want insulation from static electricity and formatting once in a while to keep them honest. Be aware that they can harbor a virus, worm, etc.
To get rid of annoying squirrel songs, find a copy of Ry Cooder’s
“A UFO Has Landed in the Ghetto”.
At least you’ll have a different song you can’t get out of your head.Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 10 18 at 01:36 PM • permalinkTry majorgeeks.com for some useful USB routines…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 10 18 at 05:17 PM • permalinkHey, a hat tip! AWRIGHT!
It’s a pity there’s no news footage of this event. That’d be the kind of thing I’d save to watch when I need a lift.
Posted by Blue State Sil on 2007 10 18 at 05:28 PM • permalink#46 doc:
Extreme environmentalists and the policies they promote almost always hurt developing countries.
Of course they do.
I mean, it’s not like the people in
third worlddeveloping countries are white or anything.And those third world people getting better lives for themselves is not nearly as important as the greenie assholes feeling good about themselves, don’tcha know.
Pfui. > :-(
Posted by Barbara Skolaut on 2007 10 18 at 07:35 PM • permalinkOkay, this trying to become the last person to post is annoying me. No more posts! After this one.
Posted by wronwright on 2007 10 19 at 09:54 AM • permalinkBetter watch out, folks…...y’all know how much Andrea hates those “First!” posts. That Zulu Spear is mighty sharp (I know from personal experience).
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 19 at 02:20 PM • permalinkWell, this isn’t a “first post”. It’s a “last post”. And they HAVE TO COME TO A STOP. Beginnning now.
Posted by wronwright on 2007 10 19 at 03:00 PM • permalinkBeginnning now.
Could you explain how this works, wronwright?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 19 at 04:36 PM • permalinkBesides, you misspelled “beginning”. Did Margo stop over in Ohio?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 10 19 at 04:37 PM • permalink#160 you’re right Ash_, I don’t want to upset anyone from Texas. Have you seen the size of the armoured rats they have over there?
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 23 at 12:47 AM • permalinkI’m just a tiny little mouse (squeak, squeak) and I don’t ask much from life. Just a crumb, a little water, and a bit of straw to sleep on.
Surely it’s not too hrad to let me have the last word. Squeak.
Posted by Hero Schema on 2007 10 23 at 07:32 AM • permalink
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