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I tried to warn people about the Presbyterians, but did anybody listen?
A book suggesting the September 11 attacks were engineered by the U.S. government is raising hackles among the faithful because its publisher is an agency of the Presbyterian Church (USA), the largest of several Presbyterian denominations.
The Presbyterian street is seething, friends. In other terrorism news, one of Antony Loewenstein’s twitch-fingered typists reports the shocking torture of Isalmists:
Simply put, Isalmofascists are an impercepptible minority and margoinalised by a every society, insluding those in the Middle East.
The use of lanugauges, rampant margoinalisation ... does the West’s depravity know no limits?
UPDATE. In actual terror news, a couple of Fritzbollah are sought in Germany, and the entire British police force is involved in foiled-bombing investigations:
Police investigating an alleged plot to bring down airliners have found several martyrdom videos in the course of their searches, the BBC has learned ...
Meanwhile, it has emerged that every police force in the UK is now involved in the investigation.
The 43 forces in England and Wales, eight in Scotland and the Police Service of Northern Ireland have sent, or are sending, officers to assist.
UPDATE II. Now the Methodists are fomenting dissent!
insluding? Is this relatted to insluting?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 08 19 at 01:25 AM • permalink(checks inslut directory)
Here it is - listed under ‘Dyrenfurth Variation.’
Should have guessed.
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2006 08 19 at 01:30 AM • permalinkThe guy’s a nutter. His first book was “A New Pearl Harbour” and he is firmly believes that America has imperialist ambitions and has and continues to conduct “flase flag” operations.This chump methodically deconstructs the official story, and doesn’t spin his own alternative yarn to fill the vacuum.
It is all part and parcel of his Neo-Thomist philospohpy, his “religion”: Process Theology, feh!
A case of ignotum per ignotius if ever there was one. Say, let’s all go back to Plato and ignore Aquinas, shall we? Einstein, Planck, Bohr—even Newton? No, Ptolemy’s our man!
His sales figures are more indicative of PT Barnum’s “Sucker” axiom than anything else.
Damn, this kind of loose thinking makes me very angry.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 08 19 at 01:42 AM • permalinkSimply put, Isalmofascists are an impercepptible minority and margoinalised by a every society, insluding those in the Middle East.
Ahuh. Could not have put it better myself. Certainly not on Arsehole Ant’s site.
My latest futile effort. Now hanging forever in the fifth dimension of “Awaiting Moderation”. Along with the rest of the condemned criminals of Krypton.
“You noticed that too hah? What do you think is the thinking behind Captain’s handle? Speaking of which, he and Viva have been noticeably quiet. Comical has disappeared entirely.”
This of course would not have anything to do with the fact that Ant censors everything that gets up his nose? Bans everybody who say stuff he doesn’t like? Messes with the comments he does allow a show here from anyone who dissents? While wailing like a banshee about his own imagined “suppression”?
My 100% record stands! I have never been allowed to have my say on Ant’s blog! Never! I toss the gauntlet down! Match that!
Why is it that everytime I look at that godawful site I see addamo all over the place?. Not just a couple of comments, but every second post the same tired old crap. Sometimes he takes up all the posts, a rambling demented dialogue with himself.
Hey Captain Manbag, you’ve got a bum squatting on your site.Posted by Daniel San on 2006 08 19 at 04:05 AM • permalink#11
Yes, Grasshopper, there is a cure.It involves we RWDB’s (oh, how I love it when the lefties categorise us by such un-nuanced labels). your favourite moonbat, vigorous exercise using a titanium cluebat, and blood-spattered walls.
But for truly, truly severe margroins, the only cure is <shudder>, margoinalisation.
Paco, the most depraved of the of the RWDB Henchmen of the VRWC, is the master of this hideous art.
MarkL
CanberraIn a recent posting Lowenstein states on killing Americans:
‘How much longer will Bush, Blair and Howard deny reality? Until there is a full withdrawal from the occupied country, foreign troops are a legitimate target of the resistance. (My bold).
Does he realise what he is saying? Why is my blood boiling.
margoinalisation
Can one say Freudian slip? Has anyone seen, Margos Maid, lately, heh?
When Margos shows we shall
grilleask a damn lot of qeustions, of Margos.Say what you will of Margos, innocent until proven guilty, regarless I stiil like the person…;).
Presbyterian Church? And here all this time, I thought Presbyterians, had something to do with Newspapers
#8 I believe you are correct, if the Islamofascists were trying to be imperceptible perhaps 9/11 was a bad idea.
im·per·cep·ti·ble adj.
1. Impossible or difficult to perceive by the mind or senses: an imperceptible drop in temperature.
2. So subtle, slight, or gradual as to be barely perceptible: an imperceptible nod.Now that my 2-year-old cub is talking up a storm, I sometimes get the distinct feeling that the ideas he is trying to express are simply too complicated for his grasp of languange. I do not get the feeling this has ever been the case for these guys. At least they are aware of it:
Peace activists don’t require paternal platitudes, becasue their message is simple. Stop killing people, stop treting people like shit, and stop stealing from them.
Because if Chimpy and the Zionists would just stop killing people there would be peace on earth.
Posted by Not My Problem on 2006 08 19 at 08:14 AM • permalinkI tried to warn people about the Presbyterians, but did anybody listen?—Tim Blair
My wife is a Presbyterian. So is my mother-in-law. I don’t remember you saying jack to me before marrying.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 08 19 at 09:56 AM • permalinkThe latest newsletter from the Pacificist Amer-tralians Combined Organization assures me that if I send in a monetary donation, Bush and Blair and Howard will immediately be stopped from treting and margoiling Presbyterians.
There’s no downside, people! I’m cashing in my 401(k) and sending in the cash today!
Actually, this chronic poor spelling is intentional, with a theoretical basis. If one is speaking truth to power, one uses the ‘lanugauge’ of the common man, no? As in the ‘60s, when radicals eschewed the use of capital letters because they were emblematic of the sinister power structure that produced so much inequality, so too are today’s useful idiots attacking those same sinister structures.
“Spellcheck? We don’t need no stinking Spellcheck!”—the modern rallying cry of the working class hero. I’m excited!
I’ve always said the Scots were not be trusted, but, golly, the Methodists? This Jim Winkler fellow is a world class nutter.
I, too, have a comment at Ant’s awaiting moderation. If it makes it, it will be the first (to be fair, this one is pure snark).
Meanwhile, it has emerged that every police force in the UK is now involved in the investigation.
Really, Messrs. Blair/Bush, isn’t this going a bit far to support a hoax?
And in other terror related news, the sleeping giant slowly awakens: Americans Are Rising To Occasion
Most Americans may not think of the war on terror as World War III, but a solid majority takes the threat of militant Islamism very seriously, suspects that Iran is behind much of it and concludes that the U.S. must stop that country from getting nukes “at any cost.”
These are among the results of the latest IBD/TIPP Poll, which probed how seriously Americans view the spread of Islamofascism and whether they recognize a need to confront it sooner rather than later.
For the record, I don’t think the GWOT is WWIII either. I think it’s WWIV.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 08 19 at 12:25 PM • permalinkOn Wednesday an editorial was published in our local rag, the Austin American Statesman, by Whitney S. Bodman of the Austin Presbyterian Theological Seminary whom, one would hope would have a modicum of education. It made my blood boil. In it, she asks “Who is Hesbollah” and gives her answer:
“It is a defender of Lebanese sover-
eignty against Israel.”She then goes on to write as an apologist for Hezbollah. Read the whole thing here, but caution: have a drink or take your meds before the plunge.
“Hezbollah aims to defend, rebuild Lebanon”The Presbyterian church has surely lost their moorings.
Posted by Kathy from Austin on 2006 08 19 at 12:58 PM • permalinkPlubease clubose yubour tubags, pubeople.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 08 19 at 02:03 PM • permalinkIf I didn’t know better, I’d say that margoinalised paragraph was too hilarious NOT to be intentional.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 08 19 at 02:06 PM • permalinkSorry about the tags, guys. I thought I’d had them off. Thanks, Andrea.
Neophyte Kathy.
Posted by Kathy from Austin on 2006 08 19 at 02:58 PM • permalinkYou want religion and slurs against it (and I’m not) BUT you just wait until the 2008 U.S. elections. Rudy Giuliani, Catholic (or former, think they tossed him because of divorce) and Mitt Romney Gov. of Massachusetts, Mormon, the Left will go berserk, smearing.
And if by some chance they are President and Vice Presidential nominees…berserk will be the mild word, for what takes place.
Imperceptable ?? There is a very perceptable hole in Manhatten.
But it’s the Episcopalians we need to worry about. Not the American one’s who used to be Anglicans until 1776, but theSwiss
Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2006 08 19 at 03:32 PM • permalinkI’m so tired of seeing these National Council of Churches types fomenting at the mouth. Attention, heretics: Jesus was not a proto-Che, W is not the antichrist, and you all are nothing but false prophets. So “Reverend” Winkler, why don’t you take a chunk of that $5MM budget of yours and do something like feed and shelter the poor? Sanctimonious, left-wing ass.
#s 25 and 33
The Presbyterians are the ones who are trying to divest their pension funds, etc. of everything Israel-related.
In June of 2004, the General Assembly met in Richmond, Virginia and voted 431-62 to begin studying how to divest itself of companies whose business dealings in or with Israel contribute to the occupation. Rev. Nile Harper stated “The occupation by Israel in the West Bank and Gaza must end because it is oppressive and destructive for the Palestinian people” in explanation of this action. The church statement noted that “divestment is one of the strategies that U.S. churches used in the 1970s and ‘80s in a successful campaign to end apartheid in South Africa.”
Idiots.
(Link here)
Then who or what are the Gretelbollah?
They wear burqas, ushie, and eschew bratwurst mit phosphat. The bastards.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 08 19 at 05:25 PM • permalinkTim,Tim will you never learn.
ABC news “police found SO DESCRIBED maryr videos”...
Another case of ABC cover up.
Last night ABC news aired a story about two 15-19 yr old males who attacked three women at Curtin University.
Including a 74 year old woman who working in the canteen who was punched in the face to make her let go of her purse.
The same item was on commercial t.v. the night BEFORE.
Best part was that they urged viewers in a public spirited way to contact police with any evidence… however they forgot to mention as the commercial t.v. did that “the offenders were described as being of Aboriginal appearance..”
Equally guilty of this ommission of evidence was The Sunday Times..I’ve always been rather comfortable with the Church of Christ. They aren’t as militant or starchy as they tend to be made out.
I don’t know if I’ve ever personally met a Presby, but I’m told they dress funny.
Simply put, Isalmofascists are an impercepptible minority and margoinalised by a every society, insluding those in the Middle East.
Yes. I agree that this is put very simply indeed.
#23, Kyda Sylvester, thank you for sharing that information. I needed very much to hear it.
For the record, I don’t think the GWOT is WWIII either. I think it’s WWIV.
I agree with that. Your reasoning? Mine is that the so-called “cold war” wasn’t cold at all. You cannot ignore the resulting deaths, which occurred all over the world. That makes the war with Islam WWIV.
As for the Pressertarians: A nice reminder why the Founders separated church and state.
In June of 2004, the General Assembly met in Richmond, Virginia and voted 431-62 to begin studying how to divest itself of companies whose business dealings in or with Israel contribute to the occupation. [Emphasis mine.]
You don’t give 431 nutjobs the means to impose their brand of anything on the rest of us. Oh, wait. Perhaps I ought to amend that to read, “431 unelected nutjobs”.
I’ve never really figured out why churches bother to get themselves involved in temporal politics in the first place. Unless a particular issue directly affects them, there is little to be gained from taking a position, and much that can be lost through alienation of their followers. I know that my church (I am a Latter-Day Saint, AKA Mormon) maintains a policy of strict poltiical neutrality except in cases where there are threats to what it considers to be immutable moral laws (for example, they have urged their members to support the various Defense of Marriage acts to come through the states.) They make it a policy not to endorse political candidates in any office (they strongly encourage voting, but they’ll never tell you who to vote for.) Even though at times it seems like it might be helpful to find out where such positions would be, the policy seems mostly to imply that there are more important things for them to worry about than temporal affairs.
#47 Vexorg: Kind of along the lines of what Jesus meant when he said (paraphrasing from memory) Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and unto the Lord what is The Lord’s, right?
Separation of church and state was pretty much written into the original concept.
From my limited understanding, it seems much of the idea of the church being the state and vice versa and the church/state being an imperial entity comes from the chruch being morphed into a tool of conquest and civil governance by Rome under Constantine.
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margoinalised?
The Religion Of Peace becomes The Religion Of Margo?
On the other hand, this would explain why they want the wimminfolk covered up.