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Associated Press reports:
Hezbollah rockets made their first hit near Christian holy sites in Israel: Two rockets hit Nazareth - the biblical hometown of Jesus - killing two brothers ages 3 and 9 as they played outside, bringing the Israeli death toll to 29.
In fact, it now seems that the young victims were Arabs—always a likely outcome considering Nazareth’s large Arabic population. Hezbollah’s precision aiming skills have somehow deserted them.
I don’t care if the children were Arab or not. Hezbollah is still murdering children.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 19 at 07:13 PM • permalinkI don’t care if the children were Arab or Israeli. Both sides are still murdering children.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 07 19 at 07:30 PM • permalinkIt doesn;t matter anyway, its just an issue of Arabs and displays of masculinity!
Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 07 19 at 07:31 PM • permalinkAcross the border in Lebanon the Aust. media is making much of the dual-citizen families now trying to escape the border conflict, blaming Israel for targeting nearby Hezbollah instead of declaring a one-sided cease fire.
The bias and partial reporting here is palpable.I note that none of these Lebanese families are ever asked their opinion of the Hezbollah they must know of near their homes.
Either they support them, or keep diplomatically quiet so that they can return and visit/live there later amongst the same killers.So how much sympathy should we have towards these ‘convenient, temporary refugees’ holding our passports??
A lot if they really are anti-Hezbollah, none if they are not.Hey, as long as you kill something while on jihad, it all counts toward paradise, baybee…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 19 at 07:58 PM • permalinkAh, the moral equivalence of Miranda Divide, the Looney left rings out with another sound bite in a vain attempt to cloud the facts. Wait until an unprovoked rocket attack divides miranda’s brain in twain, then we will hear the whining wails wasping through the stench of her rotting soul complaining that her (his?) gov’t failed to protect her (him?)and demanding that the rocketeers, who have declared total war, be eliminated, even though their protective armor consists of little children. Wake up out of your disaml hatred of the Jews, Miranda, and get your facts straight.
stats… no way! That’s Miranda Divide; been here for ages. Mostly posts in non sequiters or something brief or batty. Usually entertaining.
Has managed to pick up a serious point @ #3 which is a worry....
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 19 at 08:17 PM • permalinkMiranda, let’s see if we can do a little comparison:
Side A fires indiscriminate weapons in the general direction of Side B’s civilian areas, with the object of killing civilians. It uses its own civilians as human shields to protect its weaponry, sometimes preventing them from leaving the target area by force.
Side B drops leaflets warning Side B’s civilians to leave the area of those weapons, then uses very expensive hi-tech weaponry in its best attempt to knock them out without harming those nearby. Sometimes, despite its best efforts, it harms some anyway.
One of these things is not like the other.
As usual, the muslim children (and adults) have more to fear from ...muslim adults than from anyone else. Damn those perniscious zionists and their baleful influence!
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 07 19 at 08:38 PM • permalinkHey stats, you aren’t the NSW Police Force so stop verballing me. I love all Jews (which BTW includes not a few ancestors) like I love all human beings, which is, without equivocation.
As to the facts, are these the same ones you pull out of your arse as you constuct your blogsheep’s polemic in the service of your blogmeister?
To use the indiscriminate killing of children (or civilians populations as a whole) in an armed conflict, as a blunt ugly tool to prop up your blind allegiance to one side is beyond pathetic—it reduces the needless death of a child to a cheap political shot.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 07 19 at 08:56 PM • permalinkI look forward to an outpourng of moral outrage over the death of children in Lebanon as a result of this conflict.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 07 19 at 09:09 PM • permalinkTwo children killed in rocket strike on Nazareth
Hezbollah fired more than 100 Katyusha rockets at Israel on Wednesday, killing two brothers from Nazareth, aged 9 and 3, and sending 135 people to the hospital in Nazareth alone. The deaths bring the number of Israelis killed by Hezbollah rockets since the fighting began to 15.
Another 12 people sustained light wounds in the attack, and were evacuated to the Italian Hospital in the town.
The eighth day of rocket fire was one of the worst yet, with Hezbollah bombing dozens of towns in the north, including Haifa, Safed, Nahariya and Afula. The rockets targeting Nazareth and Afula appeared to be 220-millimeter Syrian rockets.
Brigadier General Yuval Halamish, a senior intelligence officer, said that Hezbollah was firing from civilian areas. “The firing was from built-up areas, from towns and the outskirts of villages,” he said.
Commenting on the attack on Nazareth, an Israeli Arab city, Halamish said that while he does not think that Hezbollah aimed for Nazareth, it does not distinguish between Jewish and Arab towns. Indeed, Hezbollah rockets have hit many Arab and Druze villages.
The two siblings, Rabia Abed Taluzi and his older brother Mahmoud, were killed by a direct hit from a rocket in the yard of their family home in Nazareth on their way to visit their uncle in a nearby house, the Israel Defense Forces said. It was the first time the town had been attacked.
13 Zoe Brain
Yep.
BTW check this out, people…
No to Syria, Iran agents from 7/15
By Ahmed Al-Jarallah
Editor-in-Chief, the Arab TimesPEOPLE of Arab countries, especially the Lebanese and Palestinians, have been held hostage for a long time in the name of “resisting Israel.” Arab governments have been caught between political obligations and public opinion leading to more corruption in politics and economics. Forgetting the interests of their own countries the Hamas Movement and Hezbollah have gone to the extent of representing the interests of Iran and Syrian in their countries. These organizations have become the representatives of Syria and Iran without worrying about the consequences of their action.
Recently Hamas kidnapped an Israeli soldier and bombed Israeli settlements with locally manufactured missiles. Soon Hezbollah followed suit, kidnapping two Israeli soldiers. Both these organizations claimed they had kidnapped Israeli soldiers to exchange them for Arab prisoners who are being held in Israeli jails. The fact that Hamas and Hezbollah gave the same reason for kidnapping Israeli soldiers gives us a glimpse their agenda, which is similar to the one followed by Syria and Iran in their conflict with the United States.
While the people of Palestine and Lebanon are paying the price of this bloody conflict, the main players, who caused this conflict, are living in peace and asking for more oil from Arab countries to support the facade of resisting Israel. With the Palestinian Authority close to collapse and the Lebanese government beginning to give up responsibility for what is happening in its territory, Saudi Arabia has been forced to come out of its diplomatic routine and indirectly hold Hezbollah responsible for what is happening Lebanon.
Without mentioning Hezbollah by name Saudi Arabia blamed certain “elements” inside Lebanon for the violence with Israel and said “it is necessary to make a distinction between legitimate resistance and uncalculated adventures adopted by certain elements within Lebanon without the knowledge of legal Lebanese authorities.” While reiterating its support for Palestinian and Lebanese resistance against Israeli occupation, Saudi Arabia has clearly said it is against irresponsible adventures undertaken by certain elements in the region without consulting the legal authorities putting all Arab nations at risk. The Kingdom has also said “these elements must take responsibility for their irresponsible actions and they alone should end the crisis created by them.”
This angry response from Saudi Arabia has politically isolated Hezbollah and Hamas besides holding them responsible for their actions.
This attitude of Saudi Arabia, which has been doing all it can to protect the Arab world from Israeli aggression, is enough to unmask the adventurers, who have violated the rights of their own countries and tried put their people under the guardianship of foreign countries like Iran and Syria. A battle between supporters and opponents of these adventurers has begun, starting from Palestine to Tehran passing through Syria and Lebanon. This war was inevitable as the Lebanese government couldn’t bring Hezbollah within its authority and make it work for the interests of Lebanon. Similarly leader of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas has been unable to rein in the Hamas Movement.
Unfortunately we must admit that in such a war the only way to get rid of “these irregular phenomena” is what Israel is doing. The operations of Israel in Gaza and Lebanon are in the interest of people of Arab countries and the international community.
Need more men (and women) like this and the unamed artist from Afghanistan, who makes rugs.
I think what Miranda is saying is Israel should pursue avenues to peace other than war. Just what would those be? Hmmm. Well Miranda, like any good leftie, isn’t very big on giving sensible options. Maybe if the Jews pay Hezbollah a weekly tribute? Hand over the northern part of Israel? Maybe leave altogher? There’s loads of things they could do.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 07 19 at 09:45 PM • permalinkActually, Rebecca, I expected some troll to jump on that statement. That it was Miranda Divide, one of the longest posting trolls on this blog, is of no surprise at all. She (for lack of a better pronoun) demonstrated her moral depravity long ago.
I look forward to an outpourng
<sic> of moral outrage over the death of children in Lebanon as a result of this conflict.Sure you do, Miranda. I personally think you don’t give a rat’s ass either way, so long as your personal world view isn’t disturbed. The left (where you firmly stand, AFAIK) has gone out of their way to mourn the death of children since the Iraq invasion.....but not much before that.
Hezbollah and Hamas are morally and legally wrong in this situation. They could stop it simply by following standing UN Resolutions and treatys. Instead, they engage in terrorists actions and provoke war, deliberately endangering civilians in the process, even using them as unwilling human shields.
Israel is doing what they must to protect their own, and to survive. It’s regrettable and ugly, and I wish it wasn’t necessary, but, as a recognized nation, they have a legal right to defend themselves. Hamas committed an act of war, and Hezbollah isn’t even a recognized government. At the very least, Israel is going out of its way to avoid civilian casualties....and Hezbollah ain’t cooperating.
So you can take your faux outrage and cram it up your ass. You care nothing about casualties either way.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 19 at 09:45 PM • permalinkMiranda also is not very good at word definitions, either. Hizbollah is deliberately killing children indiscriminately. Israel is discriminately destroying as much of Hizbollah as it can and, unfortunately, occasionally killing some children, who wouldn’t be killed if Hizbollah gave a rat’s ass about them and didn’t use them as unwilling human shields or propaganda instruments.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2006 07 19 at 10:04 PM • permalinkI love all Jews (which BTW includes not a few ancestors) like I love all human beings, which is, without equivocation.
Man, that is one big shovel Miranda’s using.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 07 19 at 10:05 PM • permalinkI would be more outraged over these children, if one could see some evidence that the Lebanese themselves, and especially the Palestinians, put forth more of an effort to protect their children; you know, overcame their fear, if that is what it is, and do something about the murderers among them who put their children in the line of fire?
Or, if it is their way of thinking that is getting their children killed, they might consider not exposing them to the indoctrinators of hatred, murder, and the slaughter of innocents hidden behind the rubric of martyrdom.
It is tragic when children are killed. They are true innocents without the choice of adults. But these children are dying because they were deliberately used as shields to protect combatants and munitions. When this cynical ploy results in their death, their little bodies are then used as propaganda, ignoring the real cause of the horror.
If you really give a damn about these children, Miranda, you’d be behind putting an end to this horrible abuse. Since the abuse isn’t coming from Israel, but from the Islamic terrorists who use them as protection, you would be in front, with all your righteous indignation bristling, speaking out against the murderous tactics of Hezbollah and Hamas. You would not be calling for the same conditions that put those children in danger to continue.
If you really give a damn, Miranda, it wouldn’t matter how all of this started. You could never countenance the use of children as human shields; nor could you go along with the indoctrination of a whole generation to commit suicide. There is nothing that makes this right. Nothing.
To use the indiscriminate killing of children (or civilians populations as a whole) in an armed conflict, as a blunt ugly tool to prop up your blind allegiance to one side is beyond pathetic—it reduces the needless death of a child to a cheap political shot.
Go for it girlfriend - you just start telling Hamas, Hezbollah, the Taliban, various mujahadeen and al Q’aeda to stop it right now, otherwise you’ll go right over there and you’ll…
...(er, help me out sweetie. What exactly are you planning to do?)
-- Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 07 19 at 10:32 PM • permalinkOh.. I think Miranda is calling for the US to go into Lebanon and stop this war and remove the infection that is Hezbollah and stop the killing at the same time go into some African states to stop childrens and womens deaths and discrimination there. Just like they are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. But hang on, Israel by going into Lebanon, will do the same thing there....Hmmm… so sectrely she supports Israel here. Oh I get it....
Posted by The Big Fish on 2006 07 19 at 10:53 PM • permalinkI love all Jews (which BTW includes not a few ancestors)...
Why does this remind me of Loewenstein?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 19 at 11:16 PM • permalinkTim, since Nazareth is part of Israel, weren’t the dead children actually Israelis? So what’s the significance of your comment that “In fact, it now seems that the young victims were Arabs”. The original report you quoted was correct. Surely you weren’t suggesting that they couldn’t be real Israelis because they weren’t Jewish?
It’s also interesting that a number of posters seem to have leapt to the conclusion that the kids were Muslim. With such a large Christian population, that’s a unsafe conclusion.
A plesant place for our trolls to visit. With pics of the kids and their loving, nurturing environment.
Go through a couple of them and see if you can guess at least 1 “root cause” of terrorism in the region??
I await your replies.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 20 at 12:05 AM • permalink# 35 That would be inhumane—disproportinate, if you will.
Ha’Aretz
"Hezbollah fired more than 100 Katyusha rockets at Israel on Wednesday, killing two brothers from Nazareth, aged 9 and 3, and sending 135 people to the hospital in Nazareth alone. The deaths bring the number of Israelis killed by Hezbollah rockets since the fighting began to 15."
Response, Stiofan?
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 07 20 at 12:11 AM • permalink#39, sam in #7 is correct. From the second link posted by Tim:
A second Katyusha rocket landed in a densely populated neighborhood, killing two Muslim brothers, Mahmoud Talussi, 4, and Rabiah, 7, as they played outside, relatives said.
You might check out the third link as well. And maybe your cherry picking abilities...they seem mighty poor, Stiofan.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 12:15 AM • permalinkHey, styrofoam.
You remember a few threads back you challenged me to answer your question re rocket attacks and the picture in the Australian? Well I did HERE. I challenged you to answer my questions to you - at the same place. You still haven’t, coward. Why am I not surprised?
Folks, this is the guy who tells us - courtesy of his University education (although he won’t say which University) - that there isn’t “divorce” in Australia any more. Gawd, the Pope really gets about doesn’t he?
Styrofoam, you said you would use your sneering PATOIS when addressing this blog. How about it? Hard to understand, otherwise.
Said it before..you are an arrogant, patronising, anti semitic fool.Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 20 at 12:15 AM • permalinkStiofan
You are as dumb as a box of rocks. Check the link in Tims original post, the “red” Arabs bit. It leads you straight to a link which includes their ages, names and religious persuasion.Nob.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 20 at 12:18 AM • permalinkSo Miranda, are all moral distinctions illusory, or just the ones which don’t conform to your world view?
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 20 at 12:18 AM • permalinkBTW, just in case Stiofan won’t click on the 3rd link, here’s the opening sentence:
Nazareth of the Annunciation is the largest Arab city in Israel with a population of 60,000 - half Christians and half Moslems - living together in harmonious co-existence.
Looks like Hezbollah has a 50% chance of killing a Muslim everytime they launch at Nazareth.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 12:19 AM • permalinkAw, heck this is too good to miss. Styrofoam’s full quote was:
I’d love to help, but there are a few problems. For starters, we don’t have “divorce” here in Australia (haven’t had it for 30 years). However, if you fill the truck up with gas, say goodbye to ol’ Billy-Joe an’ the boys and motor back to Vegas (which is where, I imagine, you had the brief encounter with reality that led to your current plight), I’m sure that you can get a quickie divorce AND get to keep the kids. I’m sure that they’ll be better off with you than wandering around SP artillery parks in Northern Israel :)
Folks - now THATs what a good University education does for you (or at least did for Styrofoam). Such wonderful congative and debating abilities…
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 20 at 12:20 AM • permalinkAh, excuse me, I missed #41. I just figured Stifan missed the other facts (they’re only facts, right, Stiofan?), since he missed the part about the lads being Muslim. My bad.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 12:21 AM • permalink"Fuckwit”, that must be some of that nuance stuff. If Kos is going to send these trolls up to the big show, they oughta at least afford them some training.
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 20 at 12:41 AM • permalinkStiofan, Tim’s point is that the children are not Jewish.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 20 at 12:52 AM • permalinkOOOOH! Marky. You must have gone to the same University as Styrofoam.
What was your thesis on? Lemme guess...how marriage got abolished in Australia 30 years ago?
Posted by Stop Continental Drift! on 2006 07 20 at 12:53 AM • permalinkIf Israel captures any Hezbollah militia [as they will], will they be ‘irregular combatants on the battle field’ because they fight for Iran and Syrian causes, or POWs because Hezbollah is part of the Lebanese Government?
Remember, this is an unofficial war.
Hicks, we are told, ‘only fought for some Taliban and bin Laden,’ and Australia had no quarrel with them at the time..Will the US Congress and SCOTUS take years to turn one into the other, and then tie the hands of their goalers?
Here is The_Real_(Fuckwit)_JeffS response to the earlier deaths of Arab children.
Actually, Marky, I dissed your posting subject photos as evidence of Israeli bombing of Lebanon civilians, largely because they weren’t sourced, and could have been from anywhere in the world. And because the attackers could have been.....other Arabs.
Harry Eager also pointed out that at least one child in those photos was not dead, merely posing. Which makes the others suspect.
As someone else pointed out earlier in this thread:
To use the indiscriminate killing of children (or civilians populations as a whole) in an armed conflict, as a blunt ugly tool to prop up your blind allegiance to one side is beyond pathetic—it reduces the needless death of a child to a cheap political shot.
You may kiss my ass.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 01:18 AM • permalinkPiers Akerman’s editorial - Warzone whingers suddenly Australian is a must read. It is pleasing that the Telegraph is publishing more content online. Such a refreshing break from Fairfax apologists.
It’s been a truism for decades that Arabs are vastly more effective at killing each other than killing Hebes. Wily Zionists have this nasty uncooperative habit of valuing their lives, damn their eyes.
Maybe Hezbollah targetted Nazareth because they were threatened by the lyrics from Hair of the Dog (Muslims think dogs are unclean).
Posted by David Gillies on 2006 07 20 at 04:38 AM • permalinkThis is rich.
Miranda Divide: #14 I love all Jews (which BTW includes not a few ancestors) like I love all human beings, which is, without equivocation.
I would have been happier to hear you say this Miranda, until I found out you are a guy. Now I’m dealing with that whole Crying Game type of scenario. Eeeewwwwwww....Whoa, boys - one at a time, pleaaaase!
I was drifting home on the ferry (that’s “eff ee are are why” for those of you who like to invite people to cram it up their arse), wondering why breaking from the groupthink invokes such spleen, ill humour and stupid reactions.
I’m not a psychiatrist (although, from your postings, I imagine that some of you boys are pretty familiar with that profession), so I did a bit of research. That was when it dawned: your postings suggest that you’re obsessive ABC viewers, particularly of Lateline.
Now here’s a suggestion: try laying off the late night Fisking. Myself, I can’t recall the last time I watched Lateline or the 7:30 Report. I simply turn off the radio when I hear those magic words “Greens Leader, Bob Brown, said today”, “the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change today warned” or “campaigners for David Hicks have claimed”.*
Works wonders for the blood pressure (although I will confess to having verbally abused a Greenpeace canvasser in Martin Place last week - nobody’s perfect ; ). It also means that I’m completely blase about even the most dopey of the dopey comments that greet my postings here.
So come on, guys - give it a try: phucking lighten up and stop screeching!
Now, to business. I see that even Greg Sheridan, in today’s The Australian, has condemned Israel’s actions in Lebanon. What does this tell us:
(a) even Tony Abbott’s best friend can see the bleedin’ obvious? or
(b) well, Sheridan’s a Catholic and an ex-NCCer, so he probably an anti-Semite Joooooo-hater (hey, there’s another of them black helicopters!).
* OK, so I rarely listen past the first nanosecond of an ABC news report, but I’m not missing much.
Stiofan emailed me. Enjoy the results.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 07 20 at 06:53 AM • permalink"Some of you boys”—I love it when university nerds get patronizing.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 07 20 at 06:55 AM • permalinkI’m not a psychiatrist (although, from your postings, I imagine that some of you boys are pretty familiar with that profession), so I did a bit of research. That was when it dawned: your postings suggest that you’re obsessive ABC viewers, particularly of Lateline.
Patronizing and insulting, Andrea. This is no surprise, really, since Stiofan has been condescending since he started posting here. Must be that groupthink thing.
BTW and O/T—ferries are cool. I’ve ridden them many times. And they are a public conveyance, so it would be a disservice (not to mention unsanitary) to the public for Stiofan to cram one up his ass.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 09:22 AM • permalink67. Stiofan
So your news comes from where?
Not much groupthink as you like to call it so much as stating the obvious to another troll for the 15th time.
A basic question. How would you resolve the launching of rockets at Australia, from say PNG, if the PNG government claimed it couldnt stop it? Make it a bit harder by having members of the group who they “cant control” be members of the PNG government.
Then have say Malasia, Indonesia and New Zealand supplying this organisation with weapons and funding?
You are losing 1 person a day, you are losing an hour a day from your workforce and you have called up some of your reserves futher damaging your own economy.
What would you do?/crickets…
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 20 at 09:24 AM • permalinkI ride a ferry every day, Jeff; the best way to commute.
Well, if you live near the water, that is.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 07 20 at 09:55 AM • permalink#10 Stop Continental Drift: Thanks for putting me straight. However, not only does Miranda look like an Assamo, walk like an Assamo, talk like an Assamo, smell like an Assamo, but also curses (#14) like an Assamo, lies like an Assamo, self-righteous and self-loving like Assamo. Do all these lefty anti-semites go to the same Islamist retreats?
There’s an extensive ferry system here in Washington, Bingster. Not where I live, but close enough. Ferries are cool.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 10:08 AM • permalinkMiranda with reference to #3: “To use the indiscriminate killing of children (or civilians populations as a whole) in an armed conflict, as a blunt ugly tool to prop up your blind allegiance to one side is beyond pathetic——it reduces the needless death of a child to a cheap political shot.” Miranda, I’m told by #10 that you are usually brief and batty. I wasn’t told you couldn’t read. If you know anyone literate, you might have them read my comment to you, as your response has nothing to do with what I wrote. Oh, and it does warm my heart to know from your own lips how much you love all, all, all humanity, without equivocation, including child murderers, rapists, beheaders, and all such. I expect that you, with all the other humanity loving leftists will be holding a love in and march with local Hezbollah (all Jew lovers like you) to protest the Israel defense of its own country, so that Lebanese Hezbollah, using children as body armor, can continue its slaughter of Israelis.
Yes, I even love the bloghead and his pathetic blogsheep, even if they are cold-hearted, blinkered scum, remarkably unmoved by the deaths of children unlucky enough to live where Israel (ie. not “the Jews") says they need to bomb to make them feel safe.
So here’s some more propaganda, some more moral equivalence, some more shots of evil non-israeli kids posing for the camera.
I loved these kids too, pawns as they are Islamist propaganda, just as i’m sure their mothers did, if they are even still alive.
Still no genuine recognition from the blogscum that a child killed in war is a specious crime. Hey guys, go fuck yoursleves.
Posted by Miranda Divide on 2006 07 20 at 10:14 AM • permalinkMiranda Divide
“I loved these kids too, pawns as they are Islamist propaganda, just as i’m sure their mothers did, if they are even still alive.”
Thats nice but they get older, they kill and they teach their kids to do the same. Where do you see the next generation of Palestinian statesmen coming from? You know the ones who will compromise in order to bring peace to 2 countries?
Its a crime if they are deliberately targeted. If by an individual then on their head, if by an organisation then on theirs.
Whats not considered a crime by you is using the sweet widdle cuddly wuddly kiddies as human shields by firing from populated areas.Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 20 at 10:23 AM • permalinkThe one I take, Jeff, does 31 knots or so for the 35 minute jaunt across the ocean, underneath the Verrazano and by the Statue of Liberty before docking in lower Manhattan...and it has a bar onboard.
Life can be good sometimes.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 07 20 at 10:42 AM • permalinkremarkably unmoved by the deaths of children unlucky enough to live where Israel (ie. not “the Jews") says they need to bomb to make them feel safe.
Silly me, here I was thinking we were showing sadness at arab children killed by Hezbollucks missles.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 07 20 at 10:52 AM • permalink#78 Miranda, thanks for the photos. Yup, you’ve grasped the fact that war is messy and it sucks. And it’s ALL HEZBOLLAH’s FAULT! Every one of those children are dead because those despicable bastards knowingly and willfully used them in an attempt to shield themselves, their weaponry and facilities. Hezbollah and Hammas have caused every bit of this to happen. If you even THINK otherwise you’ll prove to be the fool everyone says you are.
#66 - I know, Texas Bob, this “War on Terror” is pretty confusing isn’t it? Just the other day we had Fisk making the same point
as William Kristol. What’s going on TB?Stiofan makes a point about Greg Sheridan (Foreign Affairs editor at The Aussie) getting all freaked out and questioning Israeli target selection.
Not one to think for himself, (Saltydog, take note!) poor old Greg has been pining for “Big Dick” Armitage for a while now and has ended up quoting some Beltway fool
“Syria, smarting from its ouster from Lebanon, wants to be back at the centre of Middle East diplomacy with great powers paying it court.”
On ya Greg !! Robert Fisk made the same “analysis” a week ago
“ Then the international big-hitters will arrive and make their way to the real Lebanese capital - Damascus, not Beirut - and appeal for help.”
What the hell is the meaning of this.?? It wasn’t supposed to be like this, was it Texass Bob! A resurgent Taliban 2.0 !! Marines raping, killing and then - The Horror !!- getting busted!! Hamas winning election!!! What the hell…
Now, I know over there in Texas you good old boys like to take things slow. We saw that with the loooonnnnggg build up and the predictable fuck up Operation Iraqi Freedom was. Well, the Israelis and Lebanese neighbours like a livelier pace. So pay attention.
I know one Arab looks like another to you and just as you got your head around Kurds (good), Shi’a(not sure) and Sunnis(bad) you now got to deal with Druze, Maronites, Melkites ect.. and now that The House of Saud is lining up behind the USA and Israel you must think your going mad.
Well, you are.
Miranda, again, with his/her/its reference to blogsheep. I reprint, for the edification of my fellow lambs, “The Blogsheep’s Prayer”:
Tim Blair is my shepherd, I shall not want. He maketh me laugh ‘til my sides split. He leadeth me in paths of righteousness, because he’s a right bloke. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of trolldom, I fear no leftist nutbucket, for Tim Blair is with me; his rod and his staff, they comfort me, because they leave no moonbat unthwacked. Surely laughter and political wisdom shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of Tim Blair forever. Amen.
What the hell is the meaning of this.?? It wasn’t supposed to be like this, was it Texass Bob! A resurgent Taliban 2.0 !! Marines raping, killing and then - The Horror !!- getting busted!!
Correct. Because we do hold our people accountable for their actions. Unlike the terrorists, who rape, torture, and murder (including on video for bragging rights)....and are praised by many people. Or enabled by losers such as yourself. Terrorists are held accountable when they meet up with folks like Texas Bob.
Congratulations, Marky. You are officialy a tool.
Now, I know over there in Texas you good old boys like to take things slow. We saw that with the loooonnnnggg build up and the predictable fuck up Operation Iraqi Freedom was. Well, the Israelis and Lebanese neighbours like a livelier pace. So pay attention.
Boy, talk about being confused. Different situations entirely. Except killing terrorists, that is. Even in Texas.
I know one Arab looks like another to you and just as you got your head around Kurds (good), Shi’a(not sure) and Sunnis(bad) you now got to deal with Druze, Maronites, Melkites ect.. and now that The House of Saud is lining up behind the USA and Israel you must think your going mad.
Well, you are.
Funny thing, that. The House of Saud not supporting Hezbollah, I mean. Does that piss you off? ‘Cuz you sound like one angry dude. Condescendation, stereotyping, insults, the works. Perhaps you need some quality time with your significant other?
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 11:48 AM • permalinkStill no genuine recognition from the blogscum that a child killed in war is a specious crime.
I imagine that you define “genuine” as “only when you are upset about non-Israeli children”. It would fit your style.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 11:50 AM • permalinkMiranda,
you may have had a case (however minor) for some sort of moral equivalence if the pictures you were refering to, were not a stagged photo opp by AP -
a new army unit arrived, kids were bored, went out with
parents to lookthere were TWELVE photographers there
and they egged the kids on
the kids are low class, not educated, have never met a
Lebanese, just want to live their lives, don’t understand why Lebanon
attacked their home, etc.the photographers told them “hey, your cousins in america
will see you!”mostly foreign photographers
so the kids, who were bored and restless and had been cooped
up in bomb shelters for 5 days, took the felt markers and drew messages to
nasrallahthere were no cries of hatred toward lebanese
But I don’t suppose these photos were stagged by foreign photographers?
...and it has a bar onboard.
Life can be good sometimes.
Heh, Mr. Bingley! You would hate the Washington State Ferry System. They used to serve beer and wine, but stopped doing so years ago. Now they don’t even have concessions, just vending machines. Things got too expensive, I think.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 20 at 11:53 AM • permalinkNow they don’t even have concessions, just vending machines. Things got too expensive, I think.
They sell lots of gin and vodka on my boat, and they make a ton of money on it, especially in the summer.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2006 07 20 at 12:36 PM • permalink#68 - Andrea, I heard the other day “I can sit in my garage for a week but I still won’t be a car.” Words mean things, and one of the things I love about Blair’s place here & your caretaking of it is that you seem to feel the same way. Thank you!
The Apologists/Pacifists/Appeasers make me sick - how can they possibly believe that those who lied before won’t lie again? Future behaviour can be predicted from past behaviour.
Israel is surrounded by nations that want her and all her people dead. Hezbollah, Hamas, Taliban, Nazi, etc...all want the same for the U.S. of A. & other “western” nations. May G-d have mercy on their twisted little souls.
Hey, here’s something that will drive the hypocrite Miranda up the wall, Israel defending itself again:
“After being asked why Israel was not responding to Fuad Saniora’s “begging” of Israel to cease its attacks, Gillerman [Israeli ambassodor to UN] rounded on the reporter for his double standard. Gillerman’s response:
The United Nations .. recognized the fact that Israel withdrew from the whole of Lebanon. This is something that the United Nations has declared time and time again. Israel was attacked by Lebanon in an act of war, and did what any democracy would do. And that is, try to retrieve its boys, its soldiers, and also stop the shelling of its towns and villages. Why do you only address the Israeli bombings in Lebanon and not the shelling of our cities? Why don’t you talk about the fact that those ruthless, indiscriminate animals yesterday targeted the holiest city, one of the holiest places to Christianity? Nazareth!
(From Captain’s Quarters)I’ve never understood the value to anyone of indiscriminate love, such as Miranda espouses. What does such a love mean? Is it just a personal warm and fuzzy thing? Miranda claims to love, and apparently grieve over, unknown children a half a world away. I’m curious to know how you show your love? What does your love mean? Just how does this indescriminate love differentiate itself in reality from, say, not giving a damn? I mean beyond just talking.
My direct question is: What form do you give your love of children, and all the rest of humanity, that gives it meaning or value in reality?
Your lack of discrimination takes love and blasts it into the nanobits it would take to hit every individual human being, rendering it meaningless. It is meaningless talk. Talk is cheap. As cheap as the vulgar crocodile tears I see you sheding.
Still no genuine recognition from the blogscum that a child killed in war is a specious crime.
I think we broke Miranda. It seems to be losing whatever sanity it had.
BTW, dumbass, you might want to bust out a dictionary and look up the word “specious.”
And the death of a child in war, while tragic, is not a crime unless it’s deliberate. Look up the Geneva Conventions. There’s also something in there about using civilians as shields, so actually it could well be a crime - just not by the people you slander.
Hey guys, go fuck yoursleves.
Oh, that universal love is just washing over me. You must be a charmer at Christmas dinner - “Hey, Mom, you fucking whore, where’s that shitty ham of yours?”
"Indiscriminate love” of all humanity is what leftists practice in order to be able to despise individual human beings while getting let off the “hater” hook. They love the human race, it’s people they can’t stand.
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"In fact, it now seems that the young victims were Arabs—always a likely outcome considering Nazareth’s large Arabic population. Hezbollah’s precision aiming skills have somehow deserted them.”
It matters not, they (Hezbollah and their enablers Syria and Persia) don’t care.
Left to their own, will kill anyone, from anywhere at anytime. It is is an acceptable fact, to them.
Only when the sane, adopt this insane mind set, and do to them, in mega massive doses, what ‘they’ have done and will continue to do, will this stop. Diplomacy, will not work.
An example:
7/18/2006
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: The Volcano of Rage of the Peoples in the Region is on the Brink of Eruption
Following are excerpts from an address given by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, which aired on the Iranian News Channel on July 18, 2006.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: The Volcano of Rage of the Peoples in the Region is on the Brink of Eruption
Following are excerpts from an address given by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, which aired on the Iranian News Channel on July 18, 2006.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad: The final point of liberal civilization is the false and corrupt state that has occupied Jerusalem. That’s the bottom line. That’s what all those who talk about liberalism and support it have in common.
[…]
In my opinion, if we unmask the liberal order, and present it to humanity bare and without any mask, we will see that its role model is a bunch of shameless Zionists, perpetrating crimes in Palestine.
[…]
They should know that the volcano of rage of the peoples of the region is boiling.
[…]
I’m telling you… If this volcano erupts - and we are on the brink of eruption… and if this ocean rages, its waves will not be limited to the region.
The file containing 60 years of crimes committed by this regime is placed on the table of the peoples. Each and every one of them will be held accountable.
MEMRI
Via
WSJ/Opinion Journal
Under the headline of:
Iranian President Ahmadinejad: Day of happiness for region near