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NorKo goes nuclear:
North Korea carried out an underground nuclear test on Monday, North Korea’s Central News Agency (KCNA) said.
"The field of scientific research in the DPRK (North Korea) successfully conducted an underground nuclear test under secure conditions on October 9, Juche 95 (2006) at a stirring time when all the people of the country are making a great leap forward in the building of a great prosperous powerful socialist nation.
"It has been confirmed that there was no such danger as radioactive emission in the course of the nuclear test as it was carried out under a scientific consideration and careful calculation.
"The nuclear test was conducted with indigenous wisdom and technology 100 percent."
At least one Sydney Morning Herald reader shares North Korea’s delight:
It’s very refreshing to see someone sticking it in the eye of America and Israel. I would encourage Iran to continue as well. We are not falling for the propaganda that is spun up by George W. Bush any more. The world will only get safer the more we deter America from pushing us around. This seems to be the only language they understand. Let’s keep the ball rolling.
UPDATE. Condemnation from John Howard:
John Howard has called for UN sanctions against North Korea, and has proposed trade and travel restrictions as world outrage grows at the Stalinist regime’s announcement of a nuclear test today.
"I am advised that there is seismic confirmation that North Korea conducted a nuclear test earlier today,” the Prime Minister told parliament.
"In those circumstances I would condemn, and I would assume I would have the unanimous agreement of the House in doing so, the test in the strongest possible terms."
UPDATE II. Further reaction.
UPDATE III. From the official NorKo government website:
Pervading the entire army are the spirit of defending the leader at the risk of one’s life, the spirit of becoming human bombs and shells, and the spirit of suicidal explosion for the leader.
Even North Korea’s army wants Ronry Kim to kill himself. Speaking of whom ...
UPDATE IV. The Guardian’s Simon Tisdall:
The residual idea that the US could one day impose regime change on North Korea by military force died a death when Pyongyang’s bomb went off today.
UPDATE V. The Australian asks: “How do you think the world should respond?” Keith Russell’s answer:
Send wheat.
ROFL, as they say. More reader reaction at The Age, although comments here are measurably less insane.
I propose more nuclear testing in both Tehran and Phnom Penh.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 09 at 02:03 AM • permalinkAbout time someone stood up to the imperial excesses of the United States and their ‘deputy sheriff’ Australia.
I, for one, will welcome the Communist Revolution with open arms when they come through the heads of Sydney Harbour flying the hammer and sickle.
Alternatively, I’m hoping that North Korea sells their weapons to a fundamentalist Islamic movement. Preferably Iran. Then, we will all live in peace and prosperity under Sharia and we will have freedom to execute women for showing their ankles on Bondi Beach.
At least one Sydney Morning Herald reader shares North Korea’s delight
Looks more like one hundred readers ... there’s a multitude of moonbats out there on the Herald blog!
Village idiot has become a global village of idiots.
Posted by neoZionoid on 2006 10 09 at 02:09 AM • permalinkLet’s keep the ball rolling.
So, the left supports nuclear proliferation, eh?
This is yet another example of Blair’s Law.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 09 at 02:09 AM • permalink#4 Dammit! Although if they don’t lift their game, give them a demonstration too.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 09 at 02:10 AM • permalinkI think that this will eventually be shown to be an almost incredible FUBAR on the part of Kim Jong-il.
I don’t think that it’s reached the point of being considered ‘common knowledge’, but Kim just isn’t all that smart, really.
I recall Pyongyang’s similar mishandling of another situation - when Kim Jong-il admitted to Prime Minister Koizumi about having North Korean agents kidnap Japanese citizens on Japanese soil (and elsewhere) and smuggle them to North Korea to train North Korean spies on how to better infiltrate and undermine Japan.
Kim’s gameplan was that his admission to Prime Minister Koizumi on 17 Sep 2002 was going to be greeted with hosannas in Tokyo, diplomatic relations would be established, and that $10 billion in WWII reparation moneys would be shortly forthcoming. The operative words here being ‘$10 billion’ and ‘shortly’ ... like in ‘tomorrow’.
Wrong-o ... with a capital ‘W’.
Kim (and his addlebrained advisors) completely misjudged the nature and depth of the feelings of the Japanese populace on this matter and were completely taken aback by the vehemence of their negative response.
I can still recall KCNA’s bitching about Tokyo’s not forking over the big bucks immediately after the ‘two nations’ big bosses had already agreed to it and can’t understand what the problem is’ ... which, by the way, certainly seems to imply a clear lack of understanding of how democratic governments actually operate.
My views on the Kim Family Regime’s political sophistication at the international level (as reflected in my thinking then, ‘Geez! These guys are really stoopid!’) haven’t changed all that much since then ... and, if nothing else, are certainly being confirmed by this latest antic.
Posted by Michael Sheehan on 2006 10 09 at 02:15 AM • permalinkI think all this little stunt (the nuke test, not the North Korean president) achieved is to piss everyone off. US, SK, Japan and Taiwan will react, China isn’t going to be terribly pleased, there is even the potential for a barrage of strongly worded letters of concern from the UN over this one.
He’s so ronery.......
Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2006 10 09 at 02:17 AM • permalinkMemos and letters from the UN are furiously being composed as we speak the only question is whether this is a ‘profound concern’ or ‘following with close interest’ moment.
Posted by Latte Libertarian on 2006 10 09 at 02:28 AM • permalinkChina is soooo terribly, terribly concerned not to cause ‘instability’ by sending the NK regime down the plughole as it could have long ago, that it is actually scared of 23 million starving people on its door step, and likely to get terrified soon.
Ever heard a Lefty academic/activist complain loudly, though - the ones with the Free Tibet badges? No, I thought not.
What does that tell us about
1. the morality of the Beijing regime we do business with, and
2. How far they have learnt a lesson from their former god and pinup Chairman Mao, who never hesitated to trash his nation’s stability at the cost of a few million dead?I am still trying to catch my breath (checks pulse) after a visit to that “opinion” site.
My contribution to the idiot-fest at the SMH:
I am ready to admit it, a nice cleansing nuclear explosion in every major “Western” population centre would go a long way toward ridding the human race of the most pernicious, back-stabbing, lily-livered, traitorous and useless examples humanity ever to walk the earth.
You know I’m talking to you.
It is clear from the posts above (the vast majority thereof) that the “Useful Idiots” have lost whatever usefulness they might have had and are now simply idiots.
Even though it mean my death, this development may just save humanity from a slower, whimpering and more ignominious end.
You people make me sick. Any society that greets news such as this with comments such as these deserves to be destroyed.
May G-d have mercy on your souls.
OK an over-reaction, but you know, unless something is done about this and right-quick, I am seriously thinking about getting the hell out of Dodge—packin up the little angel, the missus, the dog.
Gonna get me a rifle and a few round ball, gonna shoot anybody I don’t like at all.
Let ‘em fry in Melbourne, Sydney, LA, Seoul—I swear its enough to make me lose my religion.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 09 at 02:29 AM • permalink...in the building of a great prosperous powerful socialist nation.
Hmm, NK is definitely not ‘great’, ‘prosperous’ or ‘powerful’ yet. But I guess one out of four isn’t bad.
Speaking of letters to the editor on this issue, Murph’s response here is a cracker (scroll down).
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 10 09 at 02:30 AM • permalink#13 gubba - Of course footy is OK under Sharia.
The only downside is that we’ll have to add a couple of minutes of ritualistic prayer before the national anthem before matches.
The good news is that there’ll be mass executions at halftime.
Also, there’ll be less women’s sport clogging up the newspapers. And no more of this “Women athletes deserve the same $ as men athletes.”
And more wives for all!!
See… sharia isn’t so bad after all…
#21 murph
Goodonya - loved your BJ Loveday putdown on the Australian site
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 09 at 02:54 AM • permalinkThey’d no doubt be as happy as clams if there was a resurgence of the feisty NSDAP in Germany- after all, they bravely resisted Amerikkkan hegemony in Europe.
And how about we re-deploy some SS20s onto Fidel’s beachfront* under UN supervision? That’d keep those red-state rednecks in the panhandle on their toes, and put some balance back in the Caribbean.
While we’re at it, let’s advocate a resurgence in the Japanese Imperial Forces- they kept those pushy yanks from throwing their weight around in the Pacific and Asia.
Bring Back Breshnev!
*Let’s face it, those tracts might have good views, but there’s not likely to be any condos going in there in the foreseable future. I blame global warming and rising sea levels myself.
I added my 2p, murph, but like my old Chief said, “Yer pissin to windward lad, no good’ll come of it”.
What a fucked up way to end the day—and I can’t even go home and discuss it—what’s a father to do?
They don’t need missles! Haven’t the fools posting at SMH realised that? These devices are for market!
I give it a year—at most—and a CBD somewhere will become uninhabitable
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 09 at 02:57 AM • permalinkIt truly is amazing how many eyes glazed, dribbling, whack jobs have accesss to the internet. Reading the comments over there is a weird blend of nausea, anger and laugh out loud funny.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 09 at 03:01 AM • permalinkIt was only 50ish years ago that a deranged loon set out to destroy everything in sight as his grandiose plans for a thousand year reich fell apart around him. Now we have round 2, complete with nuclear capability.
We do indeed live in interesting times.
Posted by Harry Buttle on 2006 10 09 at 03:05 AM • permalinkMaybe it was an atomic bomb. Or, maybe it was an earthquake.
Posted by Different River on 2006 10 09 at 03:06 AM • permalinkIt’s very refreshing to see someone sticking it in the eye of America and Israel. I would encourage Iran to continue as well. We are not falling for the propaganda that is spun up by George W. Bush any more. The world will only get safer the more we deter America from pushing us around. This seems to be the only language they understand. Let’s keep the ball rolling.
I don’t speak English or Aussie, just American.
This Let’s keep the ball rolling. guy (Aussie, right?) seems to me to have just advocated for a nuclear-armed Australia.
Cool with me. Though… when has Bush pushed you folks around?
Did I miss that because of the International Date Line thing?#31 Wow! The Coral Sea, man! Like, who asked you, dude? Our Japanese brothers only wanted a little oil and some iron ore, man.
You really harshed their mellow…
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 10 09 at 03:12 AM • permalinkI spent a lovely day on Saturday with a lefty friend who could be writing in the SMH comments today
She agreed with me that Americans were lovely people, but she said only each individual one is lovely - put them all together and they are become the worst terrorist state ever!
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 09 at 03:22 AM • permalink#31
Just goes to show if you smoke enough weed anything can make sensePosted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2006 10 09 at 03:28 AM • permalink#27 Mentalfloss
They don’t need missles! Haven’t the fools posting at SMH realised that? These devices are for market!
I suspect that a few would welcome a bomb or two in a Western city preferably in the US
These are the same kind of people who applaud Hezbollah, adore Osama (isn’t he romantic - fighting for his ideals) and think that Islam is a race not a death cult
Of course they feel global warming/cooling/change is much more important
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 09 at 03:41 AM • permalinkThat was my first ever trip to an SMH blog…
Wow
All I can say is that it’s no wonder advertisers won’t go near the SMH. Not unless they’re targetting the unhinged, the irrational and the mindless.
Perhaps we could get SMH’s advertising department in touch with the makers of tinfoil hats. A match made in heaven methinks…
Posted by sanchez9900 on 2006 10 09 at 03:49 AM • permalink#37 murph
I noticed that too. I was going to respond to the last clown on there who was comparing Kim Jong Il’s despotic regime to the US’s ‘privately run prisons’
A privately run prison? Oh the horror! The horror!
Posted by sanchez9900 on 2006 10 09 at 03:54 AM • permalinkThe SMH has one good thing going for it
Good Living on Tuesdays lets me know where to get organically grown freshly picked handmade whatever at $350/kg
And where to eat - but only in the eastern ‘burbs and the city centre
Unfortunately out here in the southwest of Sydney we have no restaurants at all - only Maccas, KFC, Red Rooster and Burger King
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 09 at 03:58 AM • permalinkMurph
Thanks for making my day by alerting me to the Age comments section.
My particular favourite was from Kay, aged 6 3/4
It’s the hipocracy of US who label whoever it wants to as terrorist and rough state
Posted by pommygranate on 2006 10 09 at 04:08 AM • permalinkSay what you like about Kim Jong Il, but he’s one heck of a golfer.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2006 10 09 at 04:12 AM • permalink41: Kay can orlredy spel as gud as the lefte addult!
Posted by Crusader rabbit on 2006 10 09 at 04:26 AM • permalinkAll I can say is that it’s no wonder advertisers won’t go near the SMH. Not unless they’re targetting the unhinged, the irrational and the mindless.
The online ‘blog’ pages are a way of increasing hit-counters for online advertisers.
The Australian pre-moderates the hell out of its own comments, however hasn’t yet realised perhaps they should have someone doing it on weekends as well.
Murph thanks for the Age link!
my favourite
The US, Britain, France, China, India, Pakistan, Israel, Russia and others who have even more advanced nuclear weapons should all lead by example and destroy ALL nuclear weapons.Why should Those above have these weapons and NK not? Thats the question the world has to answer.
PHILCan you believe these demented moral equivalence assholes!!
The Daily Telegraph site is still going I think - not discovered yet by Age and SMH readers
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 09 at 04:49 AM • permalink#51 Bonmot
Oh dear - I meant to put a sarc tag to my comment - according to the SMH there are NO restaurants out here in the SW or the W
And yes we do have the best doner kebabs in the world
White Heaven at Wiley Park - a compulsory stop on the way home from Olympic Park and the footy
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2006 10 09 at 05:06 AM • permalinkHabib
Mate, I just choked on my cuppa. That’s phucking hilarious.
I noticed he’s recently moved from Eight Mile Plains to Eden’s Landing. He must have been pining for 80s when Eight Mile Plains was Bogan Central and the roads were chock full of Toranas and Ford Escorts. These days it’s all RX7s and SkyLines.
My first reaction upon hearing this news? There goes the neighbourhood.
My next: why can’t we just send all those bloody moonbats over to NoKo to enjoy the workers paradise? If they are so convinced it’s the place closest to heaven on earth, then by all means, fark off.
And for those who think it’s a good thing, where do you get the idea that a fellow who starves his people (not to mention himremoving triplets forcibly from their mothers to ensure they don’t grow up to threaten him like in the dragon and sorcerer epics) would refrain from using nukes? Like he gives a shite about the rest of the world?
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 10 09 at 05:17 AM • permalinkI saw a lefty idiot at the bus stop today. He had a Mao t-shirt and a “Free Tibet” badge. He’s a living breathing oxymoron.
Posted by Wylie Wilde on 2006 10 09 at 05:29 AM • permalinkNilk
As a true lefty mate of mine said to me regarding the St Valentines Day marches in 2003: They simply don’t understand the nature of the beast.
The MSM is at fault here. It’s much more expedient to fault the US, Britain, Australia and Israel for everything because no matter how ridiculous, callous, malicious and libellous the charge, the MSM will remain untouched. If the MSM dared criticise Iran, Ba’athist Iraq, Hezb’Allah, Fatah, Hamas, NK, Red China or any other of our enemies they’d lose access to those markets. It’s simple.
Wow. Until now I thought the best way for the US to handle Lil’ Kim was to withdraw - yes, withdraw - American troops from South Korea and Japan.
South Korea and Japan are advanced first-world economies, so they’re big enough and rich enough to defend themselves without 80,000 American mlitary personnel, who, frankly, can be put to better use elsewhere.
So what happens when the Japanese and Koreans don’t have an American deterrent on their soil?
They start to think about developing their own deterrent. Two countries, with large and advanced electronics and nuclear power industries . . . maybe they start to think about having their own nukes. And if they do, how long will it take them before they do have their own nukes?
Quickly enough to worry China.
So this way, North Korea goes from being America’s problem to being China’s problem.
And once it’s China’s problem, Lil’ Kim suffers a sudden and surprising heart attack, or an equally sudden but less surprising military coup, either way followed by a Chinese-backed puppet regime.
Anyway, that’s what I thought should happen until today. After today, and knowing the Iranians are looking on to see what Lil’ Kim can get away with, I’m starting to think military options are a little more likely, especially after the Americans said the NKs can have a future or nuclear weapons, but not both.
Posted by Oafish and Infantile on 2006 10 09 at 05:50 AM • permalink#48 and #57
murph, that’s the point I was going to make. The ‘useless idiots’ are parroting the enemy’s propaganda without knowing it. It’s been seeded into the mainstream information flow and now those whose first reaction is to hate Bush/ Howard etc no matter what, use it as justification. Which is exactly where the anti-West tyrannies, their tentacles throughout the anti-war and ‘peace’ movements, want them.
There is a fascinating (and disturbing) rare photo essay of North Korea here. It’s in several parts, so scroll for each.
It is a really useful eye opener for all those who still don’t quite ‘get it’ when it comes to Communism. Read it bearing in mind what century this is.
I saw a lefty idiot at the bus stop today. He had a Mao t-shirt and a “Free Tibet” badge. He’s a living breathing oxymoron.
I lived in Berkeley, Ca for several years, and I once saw a Chevy Corvair with a Nader for President bumper sticker parked near the campus. Whoever owned that car was either a master of irony or a clueless lefty dumbass. I’d like to think it was the former, though I’m inclined to think it was probably the latter. Your guy with the Mao shirt and free tibet badge probably falls into the latter category as well.o/t Some light hearted trivia for you..ABC musings of a government subsidised puppet pusher…
“well I saw a FABULOUS send up of Richard 111 done with a piece of raw meat...with bits cut off and pruned..” and “I just LOVED someone using a chicken carcase as a puppet..”
also the new ANC er ABC propaganda the “Space Race”..which is BASED ON a true story..hmm.
First snippets of promo.."the Russian SCIENTIST RELEASED FROM A GULAG” and “WERNER VON BRAUN HAUNTED BY HIS NAZI PAST..”
Guess who represents the VILLAINOUS U.S. here...?The Australian blog page is also carrying its fair share of moonbattery and Bush/Howard/ Israel hatred.
The same ridiculous moral equivalence arguments as the SMH !
Australian BlogSo the Cheny Administration got played seriously by the NoKos.
Eh?
Which administration claimed to have penned a deal removing the possibility that Norks would make nukes?
(Hint: That administration’s SecState danced for Little Kimmy. He wasn’t nearly as ronery then.)
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 09 at 07:36 AM • permalinkRed Kezza smirked and smarmed about “so called and claimed” nukes and the “possibility that Norks not only had Cruise Missiles (pics) but the nuclear weaponry to arm them with.”
He was tickled pink (er deep pink) and pleased as punch with naughty Norkers little power play..Kezza there’s a good chap,you are going to have to learn to HIDE your delight at the West sinking into the sunset…The world will only get safer the more we deter America from pushing us around.
Oh my god. To say “careful what you wish for” is the understatement of the millenium, and I mean that in absolute terms.Posted by James Waterton on 2006 10 09 at 07:55 AM • permalinkand what do we have to soothe the savaged spirit at this trying time but yet another Australian Story half hour about (yes he’s a brave bloke) yet another dying musician.
I await the story of the triumph of the human spirit about a street sweeper from Wangaratta or a survivor of Bjelke Peterson’s government…there was no such danger as radioactive emission in the course of the nuclear test as it was carried out under a scientific consideration and careful calculation.
What’s with Korean press releases? The we-are-morons-as-you-can-see syntax is always there. It’s a buffoon trap. No, word for word does not work. Even Cicero advised against it.
Where’s the US 2nd Infantry Division when you need ‘em?
Posted by Apparatchik on 2006 10 09 at 09:04 AM • permalinkCongratulations bongoboy.
You’ve proven yourself to be clueless, hypocritical, and a narrow minded ideologue in one go.
Iraq had chemical weapons that were never accounted for, per the UN, EU and the previous US Administration. They also had used them, which you conveniently ignore. Chemical rounds used as IEDs did in fact injure US Servicemen, but you ignore that too.
The Clinton Administration wrestled with this same problem of N Korea an nuclear weapons, and actually used Jimmy Carter as an envoy at one point. So much for that.
But, like global warming, terrorism, world opinion of the US and the love life of Britney Spears, all was well until the plastic turkey hove into view.
Tell it to the Kurds. In person. I’ll hold the stopwatch to see how long you last.
why can’t we just send all those bloody moonbats over to NoKo to enjoy the workers paradise?
Works for me. I suggest parachuting them into NoKo.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 10 09 at 09:21 AM • permalinkOh yeah. Speaking of skepticism and WMDs, what about all of the jerks that said N. Korea was too poor/smart/unlike the US to ever really develop such weapons? Now the tune is changing to, “ why can’t they have them”?
Mark Steyn said it best: Thirty years ago, five nations had them, and the beautiful people harrangued us saying that everyone would be vaporized or drowned or frozen due to nukes at any time. Now that the third world is joining the club, the tune changes to, “ we’d rather see no weapons, but it’s not bad for everyone to have them”. Yeah, that makes sense. Leftists espousing Mutual Assured Destruction. What’s next? Idolizing Henry Kissinger!?!
#12 Err, I mean a bomb.
...oh, if only Shame they’re not closer to israel ~ they would have waxed Jr. AND Daddy years ago.Best quote of the day? A very sincere Miles O’Brien on CNN’s American Morning:
"The U.S. Geological Survey has confirmed a 4.2 magniTURD...magnitude disturbance..."
Posted by tree hugging sister on 2006 10 09 at 09:43 AM • permalinkWorks for me. I suggest parachuting them into NoKo.
Eh. Why waste the cost of a parachute. Give them backpacks stuffed with dirty laundry; they’ll never know the difference, and the people of North Korea will be able to wash the clothes and have something nice to wear.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2006 10 09 at 09:45 AM • permalinkUpdate:
US, Japan agree on N Korea action
JAPANESE Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and US President George W. Bush agreed today during a telephone call to take decisive action against North Korea at the UN security council over its nuclear weapons test.No word on what this ‘decisive’ action will be though. To pick up on an idea further up the page, we could threaten to send all our lefties, whingers, academics, and nanny state hand-wringers to NK. They’d surrender in a second.
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2006 10 09 at 09:47 AM • permalinkwe could threaten to send all our lefties, whingers, academics, and nanny state hand-wringers to NK. They’d surrender in a second.
And tell them it’s going to be their job to do nation-building in North Korea, after all they’ve been telling us for the last three years that they’d know how to do it much better in Iraq.
Well, this is all a fine kettle of fish Maddie Albright and Jimmah Carter cooked up for us. And so many unanswered questions for the likes of bongo and kilo. I mean, if the Norks are just using nuclear to power their (non-existent) grid, why would they have to do detonations? Where’s Helen Caldicot and anti nuke protestors with giant paper mache’ heads of L’il Kim? Are human shields even now hurtling towards LA and Sidney to protect schools, hospitals and homeless shelters? What about the Kiwis’ dream of a nuclear free zone in the Pacific? Is NZ finally going to get riled, or was that just posturing to prevent US ship visits? Is Michael Moore now making a movie showing us flying kites? Oh, and are the Norks asking “why do we hate them”? Left-world may be in a quandry, but nothing like the promise of a “great socialist leap forward” to get their minds right… Next step for the imperialist hegemonic West: wheat shipments to feed all the starving Norks (ie everyone who isn’t in the Army)
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 10 09 at 10:09 AM • permalinkAnyone who thinks that because North Korea has got nuclear weapons now they are going to be happy think again. It is worth noting a Four Corners article on North Korean in 2/06/2003 with the words of Professor Lee Jung-Hoon, Yonsei University in Seoul at that time:
North Korea might invade South Korea because North Koreans were saying things like that they would set the entire Korean peninsula, or South Korea, into a sea of fire.
Also his words regarding North Korea’s ambitions over South Korean when replying to a question from the forum:
NK has not given up on its long-held goal of reunifying the peninsula on their terms. The communization of the entire Korea remains a burning driving force for NK. This goal, NK regime believes, can be achieve only if the US pulled out and NK had the nuk leverage in dealing with SK. Despite what many naive SK people think, Kim Jong Il will not hesitate a moment to use nuk weapon on SK if he felt that an opportune momement had come. The key deterrent is of course the US military presence. So long as the US stays, NK will not venture into something that could trigger a massive US retaliation.
Though I would tend to agree with RebeccaH that North Korea has more to worry about with Japan (China could go either way though it has lost a lot of face thanks to little Kim) and to my mind South Korea.
North Korea’s reported test “is a severe situation that threatens stability on the Korean Peninsula and in northeast Asia,” Roh told journalists after a summit with new Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe. “South Korea will react sternly and calmly” in close cooperation with the international community, he said.
“Our military, based on the (South) Korea-U.S. alliance, has the capability to cope with any provocation by the North,” Roh said.
Some other bloggers are now saying that we should look to see what Iran is up to, as North Korea starts rattling missiles whenever Iran needs a distraction.
And no, I don’t think this is a fake. I believe Pakistan gave North Korea the technology to build a bomb. Whether they have the means to deliver one via missile is another story.
Frivolous o.t on the subject of Norks.
Police Hunt Pairs..
Cologne..A plastic surgeon who was cheated out of payment by several women has given pictures of their enlarged breasts to police,hoping the photos will help trace them."Tanja" went out for “fresh air” after $12,500 worth of surgery-she never came back and never paid” Dr Koenig said.
So far police have not recognized any of the pictures…
From the OZ..and
Lightning Crack.
Zadar,Croatia.
“A woman has suffered severe burning to her anus after being struck by lightning which hit her on the mouth and passed right thru her body.
She was cleaning her teeth at home when lightning struck the building.
Doctors at the city hospital where she was treated said “The accident is bizarre but not impossible.She was wearing rubber slippers and so instead of earthing through her feet it appears the electricity shot out of her backside.It appears to have earthed thru the damp shower curtain that she was touching as she bent over to put her mouth under the tap.If she had not been wearing the slippers she would probably have been killed by the blast.”Not only is it a language we understand, We speak it pretty well too.
Does Sharia allow for playing footy? Maybe a way to get more support for the war is to publicize the use to which the Taliban put Kabul’s soccer stadium? Naw, that would be culturally insensitive.
#96 Fake?
According to this discussion on monitoring, the recorded seismic level of around 4 (4.2 by USGS and 3.6 by South Korea) indicates only around 1 kiloton. The first US test in 1945 was 21 kilotons. No doubt that could be produced conventionally, or maybe it was a dud. Or perhaps NK’s market research shows that’s what the customers want.
Did I mention that it would be part of their MADeleine defence programme?
Posted by andycanuck on 2006 10 09 at 11:15 AM • permalinkI think all this little stunt (the nuke test, not the North Korean president)
# 10
He’s a cunning stunt or something like that.
Posted by The Young Contrarian on 2006 10 09 at 11:23 AM • permalinkHey, really we have nothing to fear. THIS site, shows the consequences of a 10-kiloton weapon exploding, with ‘blast maps’.
It is only applicable to U.S. cities, via entering our U.S. Zip Codes.
New York, the city, has a multiplicity of codes...many more then this…
10001, 10002, 10003 and so on.
Chicago, Il. 60601, 60602, 60603 and so on.
Hollywood, Ca. 90027, 90028, 90068
So as you will see...NO big deal. All that needs to be done, is a well executed evacuation plan of the population, much like Mayor Ray Nagin did in New Orleans OR how well Louisiana’s Governor, Ms. Blanco, followed and performed Louisiana’s stated in print evacuation of the lower portion of the State, PRIOR to Hurricane Katrina. BOTH of these politicians, did a fine job. NO not of following plans, but...of blaming the evil Bush.
So see, NO BIG DEAL, The U.S. has it made.
Bongoman, Paco come in peace. But patience wearing thin.
Every time bongoman come along village, him say words more stupid than last time, then catch darts from Tim’s tribe. There come a day, by ‘n by, when tribe maybe dip darts in curare. End of bongoman.
So, go in peace, bongoman. Cram some wisdom into head; if not, tribe maybe fill head with hot sand, shrink ‘em down, put on pole in maize field to scare birds.
bongoman. Well, at least I now know who put the dip in dip-de-dip-de-du. And I mean that from the bottom of my boogity-boogity-shoop.
Have you ever woken up a single day in your life and not wanted to through up when you looked in the mirror? Get help man. Quickly. Much more of allowing this thoughtless process to continue and your heart will forget how to beat.
All the whining on the SMH thread left me thinking, oddly enough, of Harry Potter. There’s a scene in the second HP book where Gilderoy Lockhart, the beautiful know-it-all professor who’s been claiming he can defeat the evil monster, is finally given reign to go and . . . well . . . defeat the evil monster. He promptly chickens out and tries to run.
We need to get all these leftie moonbats into a big room together and say “Great news, everybody! Your arguments were so persuasive that we’re sending you to North Korea right away!” They might go willingly, but in a few days they’d be clamoring to escape. Follow them with TV cameras and we could make it the new reality show: Who Will Last the Longest?, with a cash prize for the first person to cop out and admit they had their head up their arse.
*sigh* A girl can dream . . .
Posted by Tungsten Monk on 2006 10 09 at 01:05 PM • permalinkTexas Bob
Have you ever woken up a single day in your life and not wanted to through up when you looked in the mirror?
Took all the mirrors down...found it to excruciating to view.
Much more of allowing this thoughtless process to continue and your heart will forget how to beat.
Wouldn’t that be grand, for its ilk...lol.
How the hell, are ya’, anywho?
FOREIGN POLICY DAVE STYLE
“The radius for the Long Dong 2 or whatever it’s called includes most of the US, and all of Australia.”
Dear Kim et al,
Go ahead and build some bombs and missiles, if it makes you happy.
If you ever use them against the United States or our Allies, there won’t be any survivors in North Korea to brag about it.
Dave
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 10 09 at 05:07 PM • permalinkIn fact, I think North Korea does not actually exist but is a figment of the imagination, that the right wing US press like the NY Times used to scare us into voting for the Chimp.
I quite agree. And if you don’t believe us, go here and see if you can find North Korea.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2006 10 09 at 10:57 PM • permalinkDave, you forgot the second half. “If there are any nuke terrorist attacks anywhere in the world by anybody we will assume you sold the things to them and there won’t be any survivors in NorK.” I’d say the same two things to Iran as well, with a warning that one cruise missile will go down that well the 12th Imam is supposed to be occutling himself in.
You know he’s been doing that for about 10 centuries or so. He must be getting tired, don’t you think? Maybe that’s why Gorilla Boy in Teheran thinks he is coming next year.
As for that clown who thinks the US cannot affect regime change in NorK now that L’il Kim is supposed to have nukes, one good nuke on his head should do the trick. And for the others who think that it will be a better world when the US can’t “push around” people like Saddam, what do you think that world will look like? It will look like Darfur.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 10 09 at 11:23 PM • permalinkHere is my standard response to people like bongoman on Iraq’s WMDs. The Duelfer Report showed that Saddam was prepared to restart his nuke program just as soon as Blix gave him the clean bill of health. A few years and he’d have nukes and probably a lot of other nasties. Saddam is so reckless, so greedy for power and wealth, that he started two wars to steal other people’s oil even when he did not have nukes. What would he, or his psychopathic spawn, have done once they got nukes? Well now, thanks to the Coalition we will never have to worry about that problem again.
Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 10 09 at 11:28 PM • permalinkOnly trouble is, NK now has SK by the balls. They don’t need missles; Seoul is within artillery range of current NK batteries north of the DMZ. Tactical nuke rounds--which yes, do exist-- would put a mushroom cloud in their front yard, no missles needed.
I swear; I go off the air for a while and everything goes to hell.
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Goodness, they’re actually using the phrase “great leap forward” in a non-ironic fashion?
Of course, recycling 1958 puts them only about ten years behind the Left in the rest of the world, so perhaps it’s appropriate.