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“PROBLEM OF CHRONOLOGY”
Melbourne’s Herald Sun reports:
Sunday Age columnist Terry Lane has been caught out again quoting unreliable Internet sources, despite a similar “almighty stuff-up” last year leading him to offer his resignation.
It is the second time Lane has used spurious Internet claims to back anti-George W. Bush attacks in the paper ...
Read on for Lane’s defiant response:
Asked if he would submit his resignation, a defiant Lane responded: “No. I certainly won’t!"
The claims - relying on correspondence between PEER and the NPS - were not wrong “at the time that I wrote it”.
"It’s a problem of chronology,” he said.
Lane said the park service had “backed down” in the past few days.
Earlier pieces on Lane’s park problem here, here, and here. Meanwhile, US commutoonist Garry Trudeau seems to have dodged mainstream criticism despite falling for the same “chronology problem” as Lane. Jim Treacher brings him up to date:
Further on this from the drunkablog.
Yeah, “backed down” indeed! Lane is still a lying sack of crap. I thought a short holiday with a bunch of grunting, sweating, muscular men in tight bicycle shorts might put him in a better humour, but he’s defiant to the end.
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 19 at 01:23 PM • permalinkIf the claims are false, they were false at the time. A statement of fact cannot be true and then later be false. E.g., the claim of an earth-centric universe was false way before Copernicus and Gallileo. It may have been honest error, but it was still error. Those two did not suddenly rearrange the universe. Similarly, PEER’s statements were flat out wrong and even the Skeptic is now pointing out not mere error but rather disengenuousness on PEER’s part.
I guess this is too nuanced for Lane.
This is a mock Public Service Announcement on behalf of Tim Blair and Andrea Harris
They wish to extend to all blog visitors a card enabling the holder to breath. Tim Blair and Andrea Harris are aware of recent initiatives on behalf of The Age to prevent Right Wing people to breathe, but have issued their express permission to these people to breathe.
Card holders are also permitted to do research and mock Terry Lane and The Age. Run free with abandon after collecting your card from the front office.
They wish to extend to all blog visitors a card enabling the holder to breath. Tim Blair and Andrea Harris are aware of recent initiatives on behalf of The Age to prevent Right Wing people to breathe, but have issued their express permission to these people to breathe.
Card holders are also permitted to do research and mock Terry Lane and The Age. Run free with abandon after collecting your card from the front office.
Add a “processing fee” to the card pick-up, and you’ll find Paco Enterprises not far away, I surmise…
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 19 at 01:56 PM • permalinkThe claims - relying on correspondence between PEER and the NPS - were not wrong “at the time that I wrote it”.
Translation: Because I did zero fact-checking before writing the article, I’m perfectly right in assuming that the claims might be true.
Sorry, Terry. That line of reasoning might be expected from mental defectives who say that Bush dynamited the Pentagon because he thought it suggested a satanic pentagram, or that their milk is squeezed out of Venusian cows and delivered by UFO every morning, or that Jimmy Carter is a specimen of intelligent life; but for people who hold themselves out as serious information and opinion peddlers, it just won’t do. You’re an ass pulling a plow who dreams of being Seabiscuit. Dream on, donkey boy!
The claims - relying on correspondence between PEER and the NPS - were not wrong “at the time that I wrote it”.
“It’s a problem of chronology,” he said.
Lane said the park service had “backed down” in the past few days.
Problem of chronology? WTF?
Hey Terry! What part of “The PEER press release was a bald-faced lie” don’t you understand?
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 01 19 at 02:01 PM • permalinkJim Treacher improved on Trudeau’s strip, something that is long overdue.
Since ‘72, I think.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2007 01 19 at 02:25 PM • permalink#8 Merlin
Just another case of Bush Derangement Syndrome, which makes him indistinguishable from some park bench babbler, and which ought to disqualify him from any serious publication.
In a rational world, yes, it would. But you must remember, his editors (as well as a substantial majority of his colleagues worldwide) believe the same nonsense he does.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 01 19 at 02:37 PM • permalinkHere’s the problem, though:
People might rightly question Lane and demand his response after finding out that the story wasn’t true. But now that he’s given a response, even a disingenuous response, that’s going to be plenty for most people who were curious about this story at all.
People who were fans of his will take his claim of “chronology” at his word; and while the original bogosity of the story was big news, the bogosity of his defense won’t be. It’ll be a lot harder for people to get incensed about this part of it. So there won’t be an outcry anymore, and this will be the end of it.
And the upshot is that Lane’s fans think he defended himself admirably and shut down his detractors.
Just as with the plastic turkey or the Swift Vets: just the fact that the plaintiffs have been answered at all is enough to bring an end to the debate, usually in favor of the defendants.
Posted by Brian Tiemann on 2007 01 19 at 02:37 PM • permalinkRbj: Well, some statements of fact could be true at the time but not true later.
Like “Hitler is head of the German state”. True starting in 1933. Not true since the end of April 1945.
Trudeau hasn’t drawn Doonesbury since the early 80s or so, IIRC. At very least, that’s widely believed by people who follow such things.
It was indeed a problem of chronology. At NO time was the claim ever true. And time is like, chronological, see?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 01 19 at 03:05 PM • permalinkThanks! If you liked that, there’s plenty more of that sort of stuff here.
Posted by Jim Treacher on 2007 01 19 at 03:56 PM • permalinkIan, your right, we Americans were trying to keep it a secret, but once T.L. (that’s what we call him here) found out, the jig was up and we had to cave.
This is just too much fun. Admit it people, Lane is worth more to us writing for The Age than he is fired. It is The Age that is suffering loss of reputation, not us.
chrisgo:
Yes, because the National Park Service and Grand Canyon National Park are just like Baathist Iraq.Please, you’re not even trying hard.
Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 01 19 at 04:36 PM • permalinkFrom the encarta dictionary
Chronology
1. order of events: the order in which events occur, or their arrangement according to this order
2. list of events: a list or table of events arranged in order of occurrence
3. study of order in time: the study of the order in which things occur, or the science of determining this
So according to definition 1 Terry has Alzheimer’s.According to definition 2 Terry mistook his fantasy list for his reality one.
According to definition 3 Terry was was studying when a man in a blue police box appeared in his lounge room (with scantily clad female assistant) and blinded him with science by taking him on a series of hazardours expiditions involving spears of destiny, bees and a norman sheild.
In other words I blame wronwright.
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 19 at 05:39 PM • permalinkIs Fact Check Boy Tim Lambert all over this one?
It’s not the lies, but who tells them that counts to the Left.
Posted by niobium2000 on 2007 01 19 at 05:47 PM • permalinkhilary clinton’s campaigns getting nasty- they just revealed barak obama was educated in an indonesian madrassa and is a muslim
“Some observers believe Sen. Obama himself used his revelation about drug use—including cocaine—as a smokescreen to hide his Islamic background.
“It’s not about Obama being Muslim that concerns me. It’s the fact that he’s been deceptive about his religious and educational background,” says political strategist Mike Baker.
Most madrassas are funded by Saudi Arabia and are known to teach a radical form of Islam known as Wahhabism.
According to Democrat Party sources, Obama spent at least four years studying at the Indonesian madrassa.
While there are several stories about this latest Senator Obama revelation, many inside the Beltway believe the story came from Senator Hillary Clinton’s supporters in order to take the wind out of the sails of Obama’s fledgling presidential run.”
is it all over for the hollow man?
fox are reporting it right now
Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 19 at 06:15 PM • permalinkMore lies from The Age:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/record-rise-in-gas-levels-baffling/2007/01/19/1169095981302.html
The main greenhouse gas by far ( about 96% ) is water vapor.#28 Moptop, you have heard about “higher truth” haven’t you, where something like the Tawany Brawley incident didn’t actually happen, but that doesn’t matter because it was indicative of a higher truth, i.e. there’s racism because of, um, well, some made up incidents.
Now we have a higher chronology, where time itself is irrelevant as long as it conforms to Leftist beliefs.
Personally, I’m looking forward to Lane’s follow-up piece. It will be a laugh a minute. Lot’s of self-righteous huffing and puffing (I hope he doesn’t hyperventilate), “Right Wing hypocrisy”, “honest mistake”, “park service backdown”, “credible source”, “consistent with the truth” etc.
signed:
NostraDhimmi
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 19 at 07:02 PM • permalinkWhy can’t people such as Lane and Chulov admit they were WRONG. It is not a defence to say “the lie I quoted was not a lie when I quoted it because no one told me it was a lie”. It was so easy to check and Lane, either too lazy, too thick or simply a liar, didn’t.
Next week: Lane writes that there is irrefutable proof that George W. Bush was the notorious Nazi Butcher of Auschwitz.
Next week: Lane writes that there is irrefutable proof that George W. Bush was the notorious Nazi Butcher of Auschwitz.
Don’t worry, George Bush’s grandfather already features heavily in conspiracy theory as a WWII war profiteer.
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 19 at 07:24 PM • permalinkOnly a complete and utter fool believes he is still right in the face of overwhelming evidence that he is wrong.
As Lane clings to his job with an ever more feeble grasp, you wonder what his colleagues at The Age REALLY think about him. Quite apart from sharing his politics (they are all as one on that), I bet most of them think he’s a shit journo.
#20 chrisgo
Claims that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction - relying on intelligence from various sources - were not wrong “at the time”.
Correct. The problem with your analogy is that Lane’s claims have never been true.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 01 19 at 07:31 PM • permalink#42 AlburyShifton
Don’t worry, George Bush’s grandfather already features heavily in conspiracy theory as a WWII war profiteer.
Oh, much more than that: the current fever swamp dogma is that Prescott Bush created the National Socialist Party. All by his little self…
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 01 19 at 07:34 PM • permalinkO/T - There is nothing I like at the races today but there’s a couple at each way odds at Randwick. R3 #6 Shadyarena is going to be near $10 and ran well enough last time to make me think that the step up in trip will suit. R8 #8 Prince Of Midnight is up against a couple of good ones but might run a good race at around $16. The problem in that race is that there’s no pace and the favourite Element will be able to dictate in front.
Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 19 at 07:39 PM • permalinkIn a related instance of lefty reality-rearrangement, the Gang of 88 at Duke University are still defiant concerning the three students falsely accused of rape. Apparently, even if the actual crime did not, in fact, happen according to a rigid legalistic and technical standard requiring an action to have actually occurred in order to charge somebody with committing it, the students are still in fact white males, and nobody has yet absolved them of that.
Posted by Steve Skubinna on 2007 01 19 at 07:44 PM • permalinkchrisgo:
Ah. Okay. Well, I have noticed it’s getting difficult to tell the difference between a moonbat and someone parodying one. Oops. :)
Posted by Patrick Chester on 2007 01 19 at 07:58 PM • permalinkWhen contacted by the Herald Sun Online, Mr Fray said Lane was on a “deep caving” holiday and would be unavailable until next week.
The paper
I thought a short holiday with a bunch of grunting, sweating, muscular men in tight bicycle shorts might put him in a better humour...
#2, Albury Shifton
Lane is out on a colon-spelunking holiday??
Did he take Jewemy Sears with him?
God, I hope they don’t breed.....
MarkL
canberra#54
#2, Albury Shifton
Lane is out on a colon-spelunking holiday??
Did he take Jewemy Sears with him?
God, I hope they don’t breed.....
I’d like to apologise for any distress caused by mental images conjured up by my original post! Perhaps if I use the Chewbacca defence…
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 19 at 08:21 PM • permalink#25 - good point, what is Lane doing “chasing cyclists”? I thought most people watched sport from the sidelines (or roadside). It sounds like he is getting actively involved.
Me to Age Editor: “Where is Terry Lane?”
Editor: “He’s in Melbourne at the tennis, dodging tennis balls.”
In winter - Me to Age Editor: “Where is Terry Lane?”
Editor: “He’s at the MCG, running around behind the umpire.”
If he is chasing cyclists, what’s he going to do if he catches one?
I guess the answer is - write a story about how the guy that came in last actually won the race as “It’s all a matter of chronology. In cycling, the rules are different to most other sports. Cyclists are constantly jostling to be at the back of the pack as he who comes in last, wins. That’s what makes watching the pelleton so interesting, and why cycling is such a tactical sport. I was chasing the guy at the back of the pack as I wanted to interview a true champion”.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 08:27 PM • permalinkI haven’t laughed at a Doonesbury cartoon since 1973. Thanks, Jim!
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 01 19 at 08:44 PM • permalink#60 - I don’t like the race much. Fashfield gets an easy lead and will be hard to run down, you’d think. $2 Nuclear Sky looks at least $1 of unders to me.
Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 19 at 09:36 PM • permalink#21 moptop
This is just too much fun. Admit it people, Lane is worth more to us writing for The Age than he is fired.
You’re right. Lane is certainly one of our favourites. As Janet Albrechtson in The Australian would say, “Lane is the gift that keeps on giving”.An unintentional nincompoop of the Inspector Clouseau type - except that Clouseau didn’t have a malevolent or nasty bone in his body. Lane is Clouseau with bitterness and lefty anger thrown in. And an appalling attitude to research that is a disgrace to The Age and a disgrace to his profession.
Whilever Lane continues to step on a rake, we’ll be here to tell the world.
Dminor 51
LMAO!.
- Wickedpedia entry - Lane’s Cat.
A obscure quantum theoretical principle wherein strange ‘nothingi’, and/or quantum ‘unfacts’ randomly shift into this space-time.
These strange etheric particulates are irresistably attracted to, and actively seek out, empty dimensional rips (AKA Left-leaning negatively-charged virtual realities.) in this continuum in which to stuff an illusion of here-now reality. A great many of these parasitic quantum anomalies glom on to every similarly empty Marxian space they contact which in turn inevitably gravitate into ever-expanding whiny congealed lumps of excreta dedicated to manifesting comfortable collective livings stealing 4th dimension Oxygen and Cellulose resources whilst bitching endlessly about the unfairness of the very order in which said masses statistically quasi-exists.
See Also:
1) Polymerized hydrocarbon condensate Turkey.3) “Truthiness”.
#11
Here’s the problem, though:
...the upshot is that Lane’s fans think he defended himself admirably and shut down his detractors...
Thanks, Brian, for so succinctly putting my exact thoughts into words.
Your assessment of the problem is true.
We should be searching for solutions to the problem because it is not going to go away.Word games with Terry Lane
Terry Lane is an anagram for Lane Retry and Ranter Lye, and Neatly Err.
Terry Macbeth Lane is an anagram for Blame Rant Cry Thee.
And here’s something weird:
If you use Babelfish to translate Lane’s rant from PEER into Simplified Chinese and then translate the resulting Chinese back into English, you get this:
A this division laughable example between is good and bad US. The recent news issued causes from the organization public employees for the environment responsibility to the fact attention ranger is forbidden in the Grand Canyon country park the reply about the canyon age visitor’s question because the truth will overturn Bush’s original 教旨 principle supporter. But, how Bush’s country park administrative bureau rejection withdraws the book canyon from the sale which explained in the park bookstore by 诺亚 flood formation. Mr. perhaps Rudd cared about explained how it is has in ours national interest with is the self-evident strength for is stupid and a tyrant’s government’s alliance.
But if you try the same thing using Russian, you get this:
It will here amuse by an example to divide between grow prettier and by poor America. Recent ofitsial’nya communication for the press from the workers of the organization of public for the otnosyashchoy to the environment responsibility sketches attention to the fact that rangers into immense natsional’nyya the park of canyon they are forbidden to answer questions about the visitors about the time of canyon because truth it will precipitate the supporters of bush fundamentalist. However, the maintenance natsional’nyya the park of bush rejects to divide from the sale bookshop park the book which it explains as canyon was formed by the flow Of noayu’s. Mr. rudd might care to explain as it is located into our obshchegosudarstvennya the interests to have an alliance with the government will be self-evident effort for the stupidity also as cruelty.
I don’t know about you, but I reckon Peter Frey could outsource those op-ed pieces to Babelfish…
#35’s Age reference. This is from that yarn, which was first published in that other great organ of record, the Guardian:
Above-average annual rises in carbon dioxide levels have been explained by natural events such as the El Nino weather pattern, but the last El Nino was in 1998, when it resulted in a record annual increase in carbon dioxide of 2.9 ppm. If the current trend continues, this year’s predicted El Nino could see the annual rise in carbon dioxide pass the 3 ppm level for the first time.
The last El Nino was in 2006, not 1998. It is decaying now and is expected to end in a few months. The Australian Weather Bureau has a whole section devoted to tracking the 2006 El Nino. Again, an Age story published without checking the facts.
Problem of chronolgy: Yeah, this ROREX has never worked.
Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 20 at 12:41 AM • permalink#82. I cycle almost every day and I occasionally get rather sore balls.
As much as I’d like to say to Terry:
“Suck my distended purple nuts"
I think I’ll pass.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 20 at 01:02 AM • permalinkDid anyone else see this 2 page spread in today’s SMH - in Spectrum?
I’m relaxing on the bed watching the beach cricket after a hard day at work when I find this!
Brought to you by Antony Loewenstein
“Bloggers of the world, unite”
And he says after bagging out Michelle Malkin
"Tim Blair, one of Australia’s much read bloggers (and a self described journalist) is equally incapable of explaining any issue without a requisite put-down, smart arse comment or personal smear"
He also says
“blogging is a blood sport with a surprisingly addictive personality”
Now all I’m worried about is did I turn off the bold and will I get into trouble being relatively new here
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 03:47 AM • permalink#89 - I hope you are not bolding without the appropriate license and competency based training documentation.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 01 20 at 04:01 AM • permalink#89 - magpie
“blogging is a blood sport with a surprisingly addictive personality”Hard to argue with that - we Blairites have our favorite victims - Loewenstein, Terry Lane, Fisk, Phillip Adams, Mike Carlton and a few others.
There’s nothing malicious about it - these dunces keep saying and doing things that a reasonable person could question. They either fanticise that Keating is still PM or Bush was impeached or Israel disappeared or, well, the list is long.
We here tend to jump on their case when they say idiot things, and the next thing they’re whimpering like babies who just dropped their rattle.
We do this as a public service. In the past the lefty media got away with murder. These days they are held to account, their research queried, their motives exposed.
They squirm and label us rightwing ratbags. My God, we love our job.
Life in the fast lane
Surely make you lose your by-line
Life in the fast lane, lying all the time
Life in the fast lane, uh huh
Bluffin’ and burnin’, blinded by the left
He didn’t see the research,
took a turn for the worse(with apologies to The Eagles)
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 01 20 at 04:17 AM • permalink#90 surfmaster
I’m completely illegally unauthorised it seems but I did turn off the bold not like some longtime bloggers here who leave the bolds and italics run wild at times
Obviously paco has the rights to this documentation?
(As he has the commercial rights to everything here )
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 04:24 AM • permalinkSomething to do with the Patented All Copyright Organisation I am sure.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 01 20 at 04:26 AM • permalink#91 bonmot
Thank you
For years I’ve been fuming at stuff written by Adams, Carlton etc - and as my partner and his whole family are a true lefties who idolise Leunig and think Keating was a saviour to the Australian people I’ve kept my mouth shut here at home
Now at least I can read posts by like minded people and feel as if I’m not all alone here
And of course there are the cricket threads
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 04:35 AM • permalink# 95 - keating was a saviour, he saved us for the recession we had to have, he helped us appreciate french clocks, (at the third stroke, le-surrender) and he was part of the hawke/keating “small business brokers” team.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 01 20 at 04:42 AM • permalink#95 magpie
I was a bit alarmed that you actually read the SMH hard copy.Magpie - hard copy requires cash. Coin of the realm. Moolah.
When you actually part with moolah for a Fairfax publication you are like, feeding the swine. Giving them the currency required to pay vast sums to their hypocritical scribes (the ones who endlessly bang on about ‘social justice’ yet personally drive BMW’s or have hobby farms in the Hunter Valley). You increase their circulation too meaning they can screw advertisers for even more loot.
So Magpie, I must ask you to desist this mournful practice and do as we all do, read their wretched rags online for free, gratis, without encouraging them.
#98 bonmot
I do live with a lefty who subscribes to the SMH - yes it’s thrown onto the front weeds each day and he pays for it
Me - I call into the local shop and buy the Telegraph most days - especially in winter to get the footy news
However I do the SMH Target Word each day to keep the dementia away
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 04:58 AM • permalinkO/T - The BBC in the last month has been taken over by environmentalists that yell evangelically at their guests.
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Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 01 20 at 04:58 AM • permalinkMany years ago I used to listen to Mike Carlton and I vaguely remember he used to be funny
But that was before he was afflicted with BDS and HDS
And before he dumped his missus for a younger model and died his hair blonde
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 05:02 AM • permalinkAnd before he dumped his missus for a younger model and died his hair blonde
Mike carlton was killed by a blonde - now thats news!!!
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 01 20 at 05:03 AM • permalink#105 surfmaster
No silly - he peroxided his hair!
Now you’ll be writing an episode of Det Paco and the dead blonde Aussie radio “star”
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 05:08 AM • permalinkNow that would be a work of fiction, calling carlton a radio star.
Posted by surfmaster on 2007 01 20 at 05:10 AM • permalinkMajor Michael Mori.
He may be a prototype “Litigo” clone produced by 3M corporation. Lawyers of the world beware. You are about to be replaced by robotic Mediaworld operatives. Having good contacts in the media is more important than insight or logical argument. Note the line adopted that “If it’s good enough for soldiers accused of raping and murdering in Afghanistan, it’s good enough forMohammad DawoodDavid Hicks.”"There is much to be said in favor of modern journalism. By giving us the opinions of the uneducated, it keeps us in touch with the ignorance of the community.” --Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Posted by niobium2000 on 2007 01 20 at 05:22 AM • permalink#103 boxomatches
Just wandered over to the BBC Have Your Say bit to check
This is from the Storm thread
I am a wig wearer and this weather is playing havoc.
My wig was blown off completely while in the works car park exposing my bald head to my astonished colleagues.
I have now quit and am currently sitting on my own playing “Procal Harem” with a noose round my neck drinking cheap whiskey, with my dry ice machine on full throttle.
Roll on the summer
Bert Puttocks, Dunham Massey, United Kingdom
Gorgeous! Love this Bert bloke!
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 05:27 AM • permalinkCarlton is the lowest of the low. An utter hypocrite - lives at Whale Beach about as far from a Muslim enclave as it would be possible to get in Australia. His new missus Morag Ramsay was Chris Masters’s exec producer on Four Corners’ “Jonestown” which explains a whole raft of things.
His particular schtik is to say one thing and then do the diametrically opposite thing in his personal life. He h-a-t-e-s Alan Jones, not just for his politics, but mainly for his ratings and clout. And especially because Jones coached the Wallabies. Especially that!
As for the alledged Carlton ‘humour’ - well, it’s just recycled gags from 1983 Friday News Review when he lampooned Reagan (President Hopalong Cassidy he called him). He calls Bush, President Shrub. What a cack!
Now, don’t all die laughing will you? Promise?
#111 bonmot
I had the pleasure of meeting Mrs Carlton No 1 - she was working for the Cord Blood people at the time and she spoke at a Quota function I attended
A very lovely gracious woman too and I’m not surprised she is the ex Mrs Carlton as she would be too interested in helping others less fortunate - not really his cup of tea
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 05:48 AM • permalinkMagpie - I think Mrs. Carlton Mk.1 was Kerry.
Kerry Carlton. Before he was rich and famous (and still listenable-to BTW), he and Mrs Carlton Mk. 1 and their brood lived in modest Davidson (behind Belrose). Then later on, he went to England, came back talking like Basil Fawlty and well, now he’s the insufferable bore we all know and love....#113 bonmot
Yes Kerry it is - and I listened to Mike Carlton way back then - can’t remember the station but this was before his English fantasy
Now as I get ready for work it’s Alan Jones on my shower radio
Mike Carlton WAS funny a long time ago I’m sure
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 06:04 AM • permalink#110
Bert Puttocks
ala
Pert ButtocksHa ha!
Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 01 20 at 06:08 AM • permalink#111
Carlton is the lowest of the low. An utter hypocrite - lives at Whale Beach about as far from a Muslim enclave as it would be possible to get in Australia.
That’s an essential for the Australian left. Ever noticed that retired Labor figures scramble to buy houses in conservative electorates. Much the same with the journalistic left too. They might preach that the rest of us should embrace illegal immigrants and their ilk but sure as hell they don’t want to live with them.
#115 boxofmatches
Yes - it’s great isn’t it?
Love this bloke - great sense of humour so he must be OK
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 06:17 AM • permalinkPhillip Adams in The Australian today—another fantasiser about how Labor rules Australia, notwithstanding the unfortunate reality that Australians elect the Howard conservatives:
Ten years back I wrote a column insisting that John Howard was not my Prime Minister and that I didn’t live in his Australia. Thanks to the scientifically validated theory of the parallel universe, I’ve spent the past decade dwelling and rejoicing in an Australia that celebrated its centenary by becoming a republic and committing itself to reconciliation. In my Australia, Prime Minister Keating congratulated the captain of the Tampa for his efforts in rescuing refugees fleeing tyranny in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. Oh, and after a record term in office, Paul graciously handed over the leadership to young Kevin.
linkMike Carlton is not well known down here in the windy city.
The word ‘Carlton” has quite different connotations.
But I do remember he had a 5 minute segment on Mark Day’s drive-tme program in the early 80s on 3AW where he would report ( convincingly ) as ‘Peter Gravy from Canberra’ or adopted a BBC type voice reporting from the Middle East referring to ‘Yasser-Crack-A-Fat’.
He was clever and funny then.#116 contrail
Hands up all those journos who live in Bankstown? No-one? OK Lakemba? No-one? OK Punchbowl? No-one? OK Wiley Park? No-one?
Etc etc etc
I’d also like to add - have any journos actually been to these places?
I know the local papers journos live out here in the SW of Sydney and I know one of the SMH Good Living foodie journos actually went to Bankstown once to sample the wonderful Vietnamese resaurants
This person also made the very long trip from the enclave of the inner West/East/CBD to visit a Lebanese place called Summerland at Bankstown (very good and they serve alcohol)
So it has been known for these types to get out their passports and venture out this way
But LIVE here??? Good heavens no
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 06:37 AM • permalinkAdams:
Ten years back I wrote a column insisting that John Howard was not my Prime Minister and that I didn’t live in his Australia. Thanks to the scientifically validated theory of the parallel universe, I’ve spent the past decade dwelling and rejoicing in an Australia that celebrated its centenary by becoming a republic and committing itself to reconciliation. In my Australia, Prime Minister Keating congratulated the captain of the Tampa for his efforts in rescuing refugees fleeing tyranny in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. Oh, and after a record term in office, Paul graciously handed over the leadership to young Kevin.
Good Lord! Retreating into a parallel world in order to escape the unpleasant realities of day to day life is usally seen as a hallmark of mental illness. This dick actually brags about it!
Bets gentlemen: how long before the Kevin Rudd Fairy Cavalcade falls on its arse?
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 20 at 07:01 AM • permalink# 120 aussiemagpie:
Missed the last 50 posts, just got back from an after cricket debrief after a few or more jars. I sometimes go to Belmore and Lakemba for a Lebanese meal, it’s great cuisine. I used to work part time aeons ago in Belmore. I don’t want to derail this thread, but going there and parking next to the place you want to go to, eg Belmore RSL or a restaurant, is OK IMO. Living there today ... no I’d avoid there. My work colleague Paul was hounded out of the next door suburb Roselands for not being one of the new tribe. For the American reader, that area of Sydney has some big problems, but you can still go there.As an addendum, I used to visit a Boer War veteran in Belmore, Jim. At his old house. Last name escapes me at the moment. He used to visit his wife as a 90+ year old every day in Rosemore Nursing Home in Kingsgrove Road, Belmore until she passed away. I worked there as a teenager for pocket money cleaning the floors. He was something special. How many people here have chatted to Boer War veterans?
#118 and 121 - Adams rubbish. It would be embarrassing in a student rag, let alone the national broadsheet. And as for Keating and Tampa - ALP started mandatory detention - or was that in another parallel universe?
Posted by boxofmatches on 2007 01 20 at 07:46 AM • permalinkStevo: my grandfather was in a Light Horse Regiment out of WA in the Boer War. He died in his 90s when I was still quite young, but my mum kept all his medals from that war and the next one. I remember him as a quiet, peaceful man, but his life was amazing (two wars, carved out a farm in the wheatbelt of WA in the 1920s, and died in a small house in a Perth suburb). I still have the bible he carried with him in the Boer War: a small pocket-sized version with a canvas envelope flap that slides into the front cover and keeps it sealed (even now after all these years). It has pressed butterfly wings (transluscent and colourful) between several pages and an inscription in the front dated 1899. My mother still has a beautiful picture of his regiment in Guildford, mounted and ready to ship out for Africa. He was handsome and mum always says he was the most gentle man she ever knew. I wish I had been old enough to understand the value of his life more.
#118
reconciliation
How many aborigines did Adams (ever) employ, e.g. in his advertising agency ... did he actively recruit any?the scientifically validated theory of the parallel universe
Did they send Adams to identify it?Paul graciously handed over the leadership to young Kevin.
Now that would be a scientifically validated parallel universe.#120. If you want to do an anthropological experiment, drive west from the Sydney CBD (or catch a train) and stop off at various newsagents along the way and see what papers are on sale.
By the time you get just past Strathfield, you’ll find that the SMH is getting pretty thin on the ground, and further out it can only be bought by subscription or before about 7am, when the last of three copies sells out.
Another quick poll is to check out the rubbish on any train after it has pulled into Central. Almost every discarded paper will be a local rag (the Sutherland Crier or whatever it is), a freebie like MX or the Daily Telegraph. It’s very rare to see an SMH lying around.
Now that could be because the SMH is a bastard of a paper to read on the train due to its size, or it could be that SMH readers are Gaia aware and take the paper with them to recycle, or it could be that no bugger west of George St reads it.
Journalists don’t have to write stories about the western suburbs because none of their readers ever venture out that way.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 20 at 08:01 AM • permalink#127. Reconciliation is like pregnancy.
Stupid leftoid bastards like Adams think that we’ll all be reconciled when the PM stands up and says “sorry”. Thankfully, Howard is smart enough and tough enough to see what a crock that is.
Reconciliation is you and me and every other bastard reconciling with someone else on a one to one basis. That’s not something that can be generated via government fiat.
Like pregnancy. Peter Costello can stand up and ask us to have more kids, but its the people in the engine room like you and me that have to do all the hard work on the love bench to make it happen. Costello can’t knock your missus up by holding a press conference. Reconciliation is the same.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 20 at 08:20 AM • permalink#126 Hanyu:
That’s a great story. Excellent. I’d love to continue on, I will so, but briefly. I remember saying to murph that something of his was O/T, and have been feeling guilty ever since. Sorry murph.
My Great Grandfather was in the Great War (Gallipoli and Western Front), and before that in Sudan, Egypt and India. He was in the mounted Infantry. He came to Australia to settle in western Queensland, only to sign up when hostilities started in Europe. His Regimental Number is less than 100. Mine is closer to three hundred thousand! He went fron Sergeant to Private when re-enlisting, despite being in the Royal Warwickshire Regiment (same as Monty). What I like about my Great Grandfather is that he had a mind of his own. I got a hint of that when going to the Public Records Office in Kew, and then getting his Army Record from CARO. Several charges included a couple for insubordination. I love it. He wasn’t frigging Irish for nothing.
He died in the Somme in July 1916, like some many others did. Been their once, and have guided several of my mates past Courcelette Cemetery, near Pozieres several times in the last ten years.
Thanks Hanyu
Remember that girl in school everybody thought was weird? And how a story circulated about her doing something gross, like sex with a dog or molesting a little boy she was babysitting? And everyone believed it because, you know, it just fit?
That’s how it is with the left, and Bush. They’re all convinced he’s unredeemably icky, so any story affirming that—no matter there’s no evidence to support it—makes the rounds and they all nod in agreement. “Bush icky! He eats his boogers!”
These people never got out of junior-high school.
Posted by Rittenhouse on 2007 01 20 at 09:05 AM • permalinkAnd from Adams article
Like NASA’s moon landing, the whole thing was filmed in an old aircraft hangar in the Nevadan desert, with special effects from Industrial Light & Magic plus Schwarzenegger outtakes.
I hope he’s being facetious, even committing satire. But you never know, he’s still a True Believer in the Great Petrochemical Festive Bird, and Mark Latham’s sanity.
But I wouldn’t take the above out of context. Sometimes it’s so difficult separating faux-insanity from the real thing.Re my #120 post
I meant to say that NO SMH journos would ever live out here in the SW of Sydney
I’m a proud South Westie resident and I shop at Bankstown Square and Roselands
Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 20 at 11:11 AM • permalink"Oh, and after a record term in office, Paul graciously handed over the leadership to young Kevin."
Surely Phillip Adams meant “handed over the leadership to young Mark.” He can’t even keep his parallel universe straight. Or is he like Sybil with not just two personalities but multiple, each with its own parallel universe?
#127
Paul graciously handed over the leadership to young Kevin.
Now that would be a scientifically validated parallel universe.A parallel universe in which there was no Kim Beazley, no Simon Crean, no Mark Latham (# 136) and no second Kim Beazley.
I get the feeling that Keating! The Musical had a profound effect on our young impressionable Phil, such that he now has a perpetual hard-on, as he lives out his life in a day-dream land where Keating is king. A pre-9/11 world, where ordinary Christians are much more dangerous and sinister than radical Islam.
What will another Labor loss do to Phil’s already delicate mental balance?
Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 20 at 03:37 PM • permalinkBonmot—that wasn’t Kojak, that was the original precinct sergeant on Hill Street Blues.
I can never trust you about our national park service again.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 01 20 at 05:44 PM • permalink
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"Backed down in the past few days@? When, excatly? The dickhead is digging himself in deeper.
And thanks Treacher for great cartoon!