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PHIL CHILLED

Phillip Adams claims:

One of my most chilling experiences on this programme ever was a long interview I did with Helen Demidenko, which made my blood freeze.

Helen responds:

I’ve never been interviewed by Phillip Adams. I’m not sure I’ve even met him.

Hopefully Media Watch will sort this out. We can’t have Phil being frightened by interviews he’s apparently never conducted. While they’re at it, they might finally ask Adams about his magical ability to interview newspaper columns.

Posted by Tim B. on 09/15/2007 at 02:48 PM
  1. Thanks Tim, wish I knew what was going on…

    Posted by skepticlawyer on 2007 09 15 at 03:49 PM • permalink

  2. I’m pretty sure she’d remember being interviewed by Philco… the door torn off the fridge and the permanent crater in the couch would be a good reminder…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 09 15 at 04:43 PM • permalink

  3. While they’re at it, they might finally ask Adams about his magical ability to interview newspaper columns.

    Fair suck of the sav, Tim! You’re able to interview fences; why can’t Phool interview columns?

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 09 15 at 05:09 PM • permalink

  4. Media Watch really is a joke, isn’t it, if it can manage daring exposes on mispronounced words but totally ignores fake interviews.

    Posted by kcom on 2007 09 15 at 05:18 PM • permalink

  5. A commie tells a lie.

    Dog bites man.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 09 15 at 05:20 PM • permalink

  6. Possibly he mixed up her name with someone else? Then again, that raises the question of if he was so frightened by whoever it was he interviewed, why can’t he remember her name? I’m pretty sure I would remember the name of someone who “made my blood freeze.”

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 09 15 at 05:38 PM • permalink

  7. Phil has reframed the narrative. Note that it was about Adams feelings, how it affected HIM. Adams would be chilled to the bone if the light in the fridge was broken.

    Posted by CB on 2007 09 15 at 06:01 PM • permalink

  8. Talk about chilling…heavy frost in the Imperial City this AM.  Mid Sept - unusual.

    probable case of advanced gore effect

    Posted by Rod C on 2007 09 15 at 06:02 PM • permalink

  9. Adams is an advertising man, so he thinks only in exaggerations, misrepresentations and lies. He believes in nothing except increasing his personal wealth and his personal girth.

    Posted by Contrail on 2007 09 15 at 06:10 PM • permalink

  10. “I did not have an interview with that old man!”

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 09 15 at 06:16 PM • permalink

  11. Regarding Adams, his weekend
    column in the Australian
    is a disgrace.

    Bolt has more.

    I don’t know if
    it’s permissable,
    but the only word
    to describe Adams
    is CUNT.

    Posted by dver on 2007 09 15 at 06:19 PM • permalink

  12. 11# There now,dver,you’re being just a little too kind to the phat phart! At least they’re useful! “Lying hate filled loser bastard” springs to mind.

    Posted by Gravelly on 2007 09 15 at 06:28 PM • permalink

  13. Re-visiting Adams’ Krauthammer (baptized-Jewish-machine-gun-like orrator that he is) creation and seeing this latest fabrication of his, how is it that this man hasn’t been revealed to all for the fraud that he is?

    I realize he’s saying what the other team cares to hear, but even they cant afford this sort of repeated embarrassment via this buffoon.

    Posted by Thomas on 2007 09 15 at 06:37 PM • permalink

  14. The only thing that Mr Adams is overstuffed with right now has legal connotations…

    Posted by skepticlawyer on 2007 09 15 at 06:39 PM • permalink

  15. Notice he said ‘Helen Demidenko’, not the real Helen Darville.  It happened in a channeling session that atheist Adamski doesn’t believe is possible, but it must have happened as he always reports accurately, being a self-made genius.
    Actually, he meant a discussion about this fraudster, which did occur. It could only have ‘frozen the blood’ of a completely naive person.

    Posted by Barrie on 2007 09 15 at 06:42 PM • permalink

  16. Communists are subject to all kinds of delusions. For example, check out this longish entry in the Che Diaries.

    Day 29

    There are times when I wonder if I wouldn’t have been better off just going back to Buenos Aires and setting up a medical practice specializing in the treatment of rich old hypochondriacs instead of becoming the world’s most charismatic revolutionary.

    Take today, for example. We finally – finally! – found one of these Bolivian hayseeds who speaks recognizable Spanish. After explaining the benefits of the dictatorship of the proletariat – plus threatening to shoot his wife and children, for good measure – I was pleased to see Jesús throw off the shackles of bourgeois superstition and embrace the revolution. He told us we were only a couple of miles from a proper town, so we could replenish our rapidly dwindling food supplies (And thank Lenin for that! One more downtrodden village filled with Indians and scrawny chickens and I would have gone mad). We couldn’t very well walk into the town wearing fatigues and berets, so I asked Jesús to obtain ponchos, sandals and some of those silly bowler hats that his people fancy. He collected what we needed, and even found a couple of burros to carry our provisions, so, Marchamos!

    We approached the town warily, and when we arrived, tied our burros to a tree at the end of a dusty street. Jesús pointed us in the right direction, and stayed behind to watch the burros. We walked toward the small grocery store in the middle of the block, but before we got fifty yards, some of the yokels started smiling and pointing us out to one another. Pretty soon, a fair-sized crowd had gathered. Some of them were standing by a kiosk plastered with small posters, looking from the kiosk to us and back again.

    “Come, compadres. Let’s see what’s so interesting about that kiosk.” We ambled over, as nonchalantly as possible, and when we got close enough to see what was going on, Felipe grabbed my elbow, almost crushing the joint.

    “Don’t do that!”

    “Look at that bill, commandante! It’s a wanted poster, and the three guys in the picture look just like us!”

    I perused the bill, and smiled. “Felipe, you are an idiot. That’s not a wanted poster; it’s an advertisement for a performance by The Three Brothers, a trio of singers from La Paz who will be appearing here in the plaza tonight. They must be considerably down on their luck if they have to go this far out in the sticks to get a gig.”

    At that moment, the crowd started to split in order to permit the passage of a wizened little man who was obviously some local dignitary (he was wearing shoes, at any rate). What riveted my attention, however, was his escort: two policemen, one on either side, right hands resting on the holsters of their side arms. If this was going to be a confrontation, we were in bad shape; Julio had brought his pistol for purposes of intimidation, but he had left the clip back at camp because we were so short on ammunition.

    Posted by paco on 2007 09 15 at 06:48 PM • permalink

  17. Day 29 - Continued

    I turned to my men and said, “Good news, compadres! It is quite possible that we are about to be accorded the greatest privilege ever granted by fate to a revolutionary: martyrdom for the cause!”

    To my unutterable disgust, Felipe and Julio were clearly giving signs of aspiring to die peacefully in their beds at a ripe old age, surrounded by their weeping loved ones. Their eyes were darting this way and that, looking for a side street, an alley, or just a plain hole in the ground into which they might dive in order to save their miserable hides.

    “Cowards!”, I sneered. “I will show you how a revolutionary dies.” But to my surprise, the little old man smiled broadly and gave me an abrazo. “Welcome, welcome! I am Alfredo de la Bamba, Mayor of Suciedad. It is an honor to have the Three Brothers performing in our humble town! But we weren’t expecting you until this evening.”

    “Oh. Yes. Heh. Well, our car broke down some way out of town and we, er, walked in.”

    He clucked sympathetically. “We’ll get your car sorted out presently. But first, won’t you join me for some refreshments?”

    Fortunately, his honor lived nearby. He dismissed his escort (to the visible relief of Felipe and Julio) and ushered us into the official residence, an unprepossessing home that looked rather like a large brick pump house. He proceeded to ply us with numerous cups of particularly vile tea, an excruciatingly boring history of the town of Suciedad, and a hilariously uninformed lecture on the threat of communism in Bolivia. I smiled and nodded; if he didn’t succeed in provoking one of his constituents into shooting him out of sheer exasperation with his stupidity, he would be an early candidate for execution once I had established the Bolivian soviet.

    After a stultifyingly tedious half hour, I rose and told our host that we were eager to retire to the hotel and rest before the big concert tonight. Thanking him for the tea and for his diverting conversation, my men and I left the house and walked quickly in the direction of the general store.

    “All right. Let’s make sure we’ve got the plan straight. We go in, I order some supplies, pay the clerk, and then we leave without further ceremony. We pack the stuff on the burros and skedaddle back to camp. Julio, don’t pull that pistol unless you absolutely have to.”

    We entered into the cool, dark little shop, and I approached the counter, behind which an enormously fat man sat on a stool, idly swatting flies.

    “Good morning, sir. I would like to buy some food. We need beans, coffee, salt, tinned beef and a few other things. Perhaps . . .”

    Posted by paco on 2007 09 15 at 06:49 PM • permalink

  18. Barrie, link is busted, and I now want to see it! This whole business is so surreal I don’t want to miss a thing, despite the fact it’s nearly midnight here in Edinburgh :)

    Posted by skepticlawyer on 2007 09 15 at 06:53 PM • permalink

  19. Day 29 - Conclusion

    I was interrupted by a deranged, shrieking voice, calling out patriotic slogans: “This land is free, free at last . . .die before we would live as slaves!” Julio practically jumped out of his poncho, and – imbecile that he is – pulled out his pistol, swinging it around in a circle looking for the source of the voice.

    “This land is free, free at last! *Squawk* Pepito want a cracker!”.

    I groaned. It was an infernal parrot, sitting in a rusty cage atop a barrel, shouting out snatches of lyrics from the Bolivian national anthem. The proprietor, seeing Julio’s gun, shouted, “Marta! Thieves!” Seconds later, a squat, but powerfully built woman came from behind a curtain separating the shop from their living quarters. She was followed by two tall, well-muscled young men. The family, no doubt.

    It was a Bolivian stand-off: Julio stood there with his gun, pointing it at the proprietor and his people; the proprietor – or rather, his wife and their two sons – inched menacingly in our direction. The parrot squawked again – “Sweet hymns of peace and unity! *Whistle!*” This proved to be too much for the jumpy Julio, who instinctively pulled the trigger. The small shop was filled with the sound of a deafening *click!*. I rolled my eyes heavenward (or rather, in the direction of where superstitious religious people imagine heaven to be). I was about to offer an explanation, when Doña Marta and her sons each grabbed a broom and began beating us with petit-capitalist savagery, cheered on by their still sedentary paterfamilias. We withdrew in what I am afraid I have to admit was considerable disorder, although I saw from the corner of my eye that Felipe at least managed to grab a box of something as we ran out of the shop. We hightailed it to our burros – Jesús, of course, had abandoned his post and in all likelihood was down at the police station informing on us. Felipe and Julio ran past the burros and just kept going. “Wait!”, I cried. “What about the burros?” Julio called out: “We’re not going to be slowed down dragging any burros along behind us!” I saw the wisdom of their opinion, and was soon pouring it on, myself, the screeching of that damned parrot still ringing in my ears: “ . . . keep the lofty name of our country in glorious splendor . . .*Rawk* . . . Have a cookie, Pepito! *Whistle!* . . .”

    We stumbled into our camp and fell to the ground gasping. After we had had a chance to catch our breath, I asked Felipe what was in the box he had grabbed on the way out of the store. He opened it, and swore. “Maldito sea! It’s parrot food! Well . . .” He picked up a handful and popped it in his mouth. “Polly want a revolution? Squawk!” He and Julio began laughing. Finally, I joined in the laughter myself (not that I was actually amused by their joke; on the contrary, I was mortally offended by their jest at my expense, not to mention by their feckless lack of adherence to revolutionary discipline. But they had moved themselves a few places higher on the list of candidates for the next purge – and I found that to be very funny indeed).

    Posted by paco on 2007 09 15 at 06:53 PM • permalink

  20. It wasn’t his blood that froze.  It was his brain.

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 09 15 at 06:53 PM • permalink

  21. So Adams is scared by things that only exist in his dreams - whats new?

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 09 15 at 07:13 PM • permalink

  22. And Paco is very funny. Expect he already knew that, though.

    Off to bed now, back later.

    Posted by skepticlawyer on 2007 09 15 at 07:16 PM • permalink

  23. Muy bueno, señor Paco.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 07:34 PM • permalink

  24. Well Damn! Philly didn’t post my comment, from last evening…Leftist Coward!

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 07:43 PM • permalink

  25. Eeek, Phatty was interviewing Anna Broinowski. Any relation to that putana Alison Broinowski? Whatver happened to her. Something nasty I hope.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 09 15 at 08:35 PM • permalink

  26. Well, she got interviewed by Phil, Nic. Presumably that means being in the same room with him.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 09 15 at 08:57 PM • permalink

  27. I’m not sure I’ve even met him.

    I’m sure if Helen had met him, it would be an event she could never forget.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 09:12 PM • permalink

  28. Phil is “close friends” with people he meets once or twice, so “meeting” people via reading their articles shouldnt be a problem for him either.
    He automatically becomes a famous persons “confidant of choice” after they die, and has been known to only find out “shocking revelations” about his “friends” after they die.

    For a skeptic he sure seems to channel a lot from the other side…

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 15 at 09:26 PM • permalink

  29. #26

    Presumably that means being in the same room with him.

    Impossible.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 09 15 at 09:29 PM • permalink

  30. Well Phillip, since you didn’t post this comment on your Blog, I shall post it here again on Tim’s Blog.

    Here ya’ go Phil….

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 09:30 PM • permalink

  31. 30.

    /scribbles note to mediawitch….

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 15 at 09:32 PM • permalink

  32. Completely OT but this should see a surge in recruiting for the navy

    Navy confirms subsidised breast implants

    Im assuming its just for the ladies, I havent heard of implants being put on someones back yet.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 15 at 09:34 PM • permalink

  33. 31 thefrollickingmole

    /scribbles note to mediawitch….

    LOL.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 09:40 PM • permalink

  34. #33 Another appearance would certainly boost sales of your book, Lord of the Compost.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 09:41 PM • permalink

  35. #32 Crazy. What next?

    I herd ur p3nis to small. B a rl man. Join teh RAN.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 09 15 at 09:47 PM • permalink

  36. Ash_

    Another appearance would certainly boost sales of your book, Lord of the Compost

    So true, as I may have mentioned previously, any publicity, is good publicity.

    How are Ash_ and Ember doing?...Well, I hope.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 09:56 PM • permalink

  37. El Cid, I’m pretty tired, but the little one is asleep and so it’s peaceful and quiet for the moment. We’ve settled into the new house, and she’s loading nappies by the bin full.

    I don’t envy the guys who get to drive the garbage trucks around here.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 10:04 PM • permalink

  38. #37 Good that all is well, and that you’re making a wonderful contribution to the GDP.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 09 15 at 10:13 PM • permalink

  39. Ash_

    Enjoy and relish every moment…tired or not. Time flies…blink once and she’s in college. Blink twice, you have grandchildren.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 10:15 PM • permalink

  40. Good night all…enjoy your day/afternoon/evening….whichever the hell it is…:).

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  41. Thanks Radius.

    El Cid, you just scared the hell out of me!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 10:19 PM • permalink

  42. Good Night, El Cid.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 10:20 PM • permalink

  43. Ash_

    Boo!...;).

    That’s twice.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 09 15 at 10:21 PM • permalink

  44. #39 At that rate in 100 years timblair.net will just be a repository of Ash’s family recipes. ;p

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 09 15 at 10:21 PM • permalink

  45. #43 Argh! I really need to start looking around corners using a mirror in case you’re hiding El Cid.

    #44 C’mon Radius, what’s not to love about pasta with melted chocolate and chilli on it?

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 10:23 PM • permalink

  46. I’ve just fully read Adam’s screed against the US. I was reminded of a Python quote after reading this “Oh, the body count might have been higher in Hitler’s war or Stalin’s Soviet Union or Mao’s China.” ‘Let’s not bicker about who killed who..’

    Facile, self-obsessed plagiarist who’d look grande’ on his deck-chair, reclining as he sips pina coladas and admiring his reflection, whilst sailing to the tropical paradise of Cuba. Choke on a peanut, you fucking prick.

    Posted by CB on 2007 09 15 at 10:32 PM • permalink

  47. Looks like I tipped the italic jar over. I’d say sorry, but someone else will clean it up. Wonder what this will do?! </i>

    Posted by CB on 2007 09 15 at 10:34 PM • permalink

  48. Try this, CB.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 10:35 PM • permalink

  49. Ta-da! Bugger…

    Concentrate, CB! The Management.

    Posted by CB on 2007 09 15 at 10:35 PM • permalink

  50. If you’re not careful CB, Andrea will hurt you.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 10:37 PM • permalink

  51. [size=32]halp us andrea, we ar stuk in tha code and carnt git out

    Posted by CB on 2007 09 15 at 10:38 PM • permalink

  52. Yeah, apparently I like living life on the edge.

    Posted by CB on 2007 09 15 at 10:39 PM • permalink

  53. Farewell Mac users,
    Bold and italics everywhere.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 09 15 at 10:39 PM • permalink

  54. Has someone got a broom or vac?!?

    Posted by CB on 2007 09 15 at 10:41 PM • permalink

  55. Sorry CB, but my vac is Mac-proof.

    Best get behind the cat before Andrea gets here.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 15 at 10:43 PM • permalink

  56. Good night all…enjoy your day/afternoon/evening….whichever the hell it is…:).
    Good Night, El Cid.

    What the hell! It’s like the ending of an episode of The Waltons.

    ‘Night, John Boy.

    ‘Night, Elizabeth.

    ‘Night, Granpa.

    Posted by rinardman on 2007 09 15 at 10:55 PM • permalink

  57. The interview is obviously seared in Adams’ memory.

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2007 09 15 at 10:59 PM • permalink

  58. Pasta with melted chocolate and chilli.  The holy trinity of food groups.

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 09 16 at 12:15 AM • permalink

  59. Absolutely Yojimbo. It’s awesome.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 16 at 12:43 AM • permalink

  60. 58, 59 - Thanks you two, I needed a reason to skip lunch.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 09 16 at 01:06 AM • permalink

  61. No worries Swinish. You should drop over for dinner, now that you’re saving space by not having lunch.

    Dinner will be a delightful feast.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 16 at 01:13 AM • permalink

  62. Yours truly heard Adams’ statement live (insomnia cure) ... how’s the creep stand legally if he is shown to have defamed D’arville by lying?
    Strong grounds to at least get the coot the sack, if not something more serious?

    My 8c-per-day ain’t paying for a lying defamer on the federal broadcaster ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 09 16 at 02:20 AM • permalink


  63. well well - demidenko/darvall/whatever name she’s using these days accuses phatty of being a liar. pot.  kettle.  it’s great to see a contest over the truth between a nutsoid commo & a nutsoid nazi

    Posted by KK on 2007 09 16 at 03:45 AM • permalink

  64. “I’ve just fully read Adam’s screed against the US.”

    I read that pack of lies, distortions and arrant hypocrisy too.  Any media outlet that would carry that crap is beneath contempt.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 09 16 at 04:16 AM • permalink

  65. KK, Darville is not a nutsoid nazi.  She was portrayed thus after she had won a prize, and then found out to be not all she seemed by the literary-arsies, who until then had been fawning all over her.  To make up for their embarrassment, the poor girl (she was 20 at the time) was vilified.  Robert Manne was at the vanguard of this witch hunt, so that should tell you all you need to know.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 09 16 at 05:02 AM • permalink

  66. KK,
    The embarrassment wasn’t her novel, it was the fact that a large proportion of the lurrrvie left got sucked in completely by the author.
    It was the same type of witch hunt Windschuttle got for his book.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 16 at 05:32 AM • permalink

  67. #66 demidenko/darville/dale is a fantasist & a liar.  she’s an intelligent woman, no question, but she remains insanely convinced of her own rectitude despite exposure as a literary & identity fraud.  her contortions in explaining she was not an anti-semite remain an ugly picture for me despite the passage of time

    Posted by KK on 2007 09 16 at 05:46 AM • permalink

  68. KK

    Anti-semitism hasnt discouraged the left before. Im not defending her (know bugger all about her) but the treatment she got was due to embarrassment at being sucked in, not the anti-semitism in the book.
    From memory of the controversy it was rather nasty.

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 16 at 05:57 AM • permalink

  69. the controversy was nasty, but so is d/d/d

    she’s no windschuttle

    Posted by KK on 2007 09 16 at 06:10 AM • permalink

  70. Blairs law?
    The Truth about John Howards Dead father

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 09 16 at 06:10 AM • permalink

  71. #71 I need a shower now TFM. Sydney Indymedia are truly idiots.

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 09 16 at 06:20 AM • permalink

  72. I can’t remember the last time I read through anything that Adams wrote.  Indeed, I can’t remember the last time I could be bothered even skimming a first paragraph of his irritatingly ignorant, nauseatingly self-referential blather.  His photo on a page long ago became the stimulus for me to turn it over or click back.

    The guy was born in 1939 which makes him 68.  So he’s the same age as John Howard but whereas Howard is an admirable person Adams is not.  If anyone of that age should be made to go through “relevance deprivation syndrome” it’s Adams.

    Posted by Janice on 2007 09 16 at 06:39 AM • permalink

  73. #63 - the linked article refers to Greer as ‘female, celibrity and activist’. It may be an activist, but it ain’t neither of the other two!

    Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrot on 2007 09 16 at 06:50 AM • permalink

  74. #70 KK, she is not. a. nazi. Not even nasty or anything in between.  As for her political views, I think she is libertarian (ie like a lot of people on this blog)....  Not a conservative, but more in common with conservatives than the moonbat left, any form of national socialism and ex-commies like Phat Phil.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 09 16 at 07:18 AM • permalink

  75. Not sure if everybody realises that it was Helen D posting @  #1, #14 and #22 as skepticlawyer

    Posted by LaoHuLi on 2007 09 16 at 08:08 AM • permalink

  76. I don’t care about the book controversy.  Since when does a work of fiction represent the writer’s beliefs.

    In any event, it doesn’t excuse a complete liar being caught out again and defaming someone in such a gutless manner.  He deserves to be roasted over the coals for this.

    Posted by peter m on 2007 09 16 at 08:13 AM • permalink

  77. Maybe Phil Adams is not being literal.  He’s saying that “if he did do a column, she’d be scary”.  Just like journalists who write articles didn’t actually witness or talk to anyone who witnessed the events.

    Truthiness wrote large.  To a journalist, a pretend interview is basically as good as a real one.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 09 16 at 08:23 AM • permalink

  78. CB I cleaned up after you, despite the fact that I have a cold and should be in bed having my houseboy feed me peeled grapes.

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 09 16 at 08:42 AM • permalink

  79. Celebrities, is there anything they cant do?

    How about this.  I assume that all those celebrities who signed that letter are even now making their way to a recruiting station to enlist for peacekeeping service in Darfur.  If they’re not, then they have no right to speak on the topic or advocate a military response.

    Posted by kcom on 2007 09 16 at 10:04 AM • permalink

  80. LaoHuLi is right, I should have explained. Everyone at Catallaxy knows who ‘skepticlawyer’ is (all the people who write on the blog are profiled on our bio page). We are all libertarians of various stripes, as entropy says.

    As to the accusation of anti-semitism, lets just say that 9/11 was my ‘cluebat’. More here.here

    Posted by skepticlawyer on 2007 09 16 at 05:13 PM • permalink

  81. The link is to a piece I wrote for the Sydney Morning Herald on October 1, 2001. It’s no longer available on the Herald website (or they try to make you pay for it - not sure), but is at Free Republic.

    Posted by skepticlawyer on 2007 09 16 at 05:16 PM • permalink

  82. “We are all libertarians”

    Well, that explains why Adams’ blood would freeze.  If there’s one thing that a mass-murdering communist can’t abide it’s the idea that someone is living free of socialist tyranny.

    Posted by Dave Surls on 2007 09 16 at 05:56 PM • permalink

  83. Ease up, KK. What did Helen Darville do that John O’Grady (aka Nino Culotta) didn’t?

    As for the Miles Franklin Award, (speaking now with the slight authority of a distant cousin of Miles Franklin!) - if the judges gave her the award because of her novel’s merits, Helen has nothing to apologise for; if they gave it to her because they thought she was Ukrainian, they are the ones who have the explaining to do.

    Finally, unlike Adams, I have met her - not that she’ld be likely to remember me! - and found her anything but chilling; I quite enjoyed the meeting.

    Posted by EdwardM on 2007 09 16 at 08:23 PM • permalink

  84. Dave—Except here in Los Angeles the Libertarians are marching with the MoveOnBots…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 09 16 at 08:33 PM • permalink

  85. #84 what d/d/d did that o’grady didn’t was get all over the media lying about her background, wearing a bloody ‘ukrainian’ peasant blouse & unsuccessfully trying to show she wasn’t an anti-semite. she may share some blairite views, but once a weasel always a weasel. (speaking now with the slight authority of one who lost rellies to the racists under nazism & communism)

    Posted by KK on 2007 09 16 at 08:55 PM • permalink

  86. I have previously challenged the groupthink on this blog by pointing out, for the benefit of those who may not have an extensive grasp of recent Australian literary history, that in fact Michael Luenig for example produced some very good work in the past.
    So I feel compelled to advise, in the interests of fairness, that Phillip Adams has always been a fucking prat.

    Posted by ooh honey honey on 2007 09 16 at 10:13 PM • permalink

  87. #86 perhaps your views are too coloured by your experience? :)

    Posted by entropy on 2007 09 17 at 07:39 AM • permalink

  88. #88 yeah that’d be it :P

    Posted by KK on 2007 09 17 at 08:39 AM • permalink

  89. #87 There’s no groupthink. Many of us believe that Leunig was once talented and interesting, and some here even have old Leunig anthologies sitting on dusty bookshelves.  We’ve gone over all this before- the “Leunig used to be good” camp and the “Leunig was always utter crap” camp.
    He has always been hostile to modern society, however, and he’s always made a lot of mileage out of nostalgia and whimsy. Not necessarily the mark of great art.

    Posted by daddy dave on 2007 09 17 at 06:51 PM • permalink

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