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PATIENCE LOST

Fairfax blogger (and pal) Jack Marx:

I think I’m losing my patience with the stupid ... I’ve worked at some of the most allegedly foolish periodicals in the nation - The Truth, Ralph, The Picture - but it’s only at Fairfax that I’ve received such stupid correspondence from readers.

Posted by Tim B. on 01/10/2007 at 06:49 PM
  1. So when did Marx cop on to the fact that reader correspondence to the SMH was ah, dumb?

    Posted by anthony_r on 2007 01 10 at 07:07 PM • permalink

  2. Let’s face it, if Paris Hilton could read, she’d read the Herald.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 10 at 07:18 PM • permalink

  3. The Idiocracy is now.

    Posted by paulris on 2007 01 10 at 07:21 PM • permalink

  4. Ever since he got Russell Crowed, Jack’s been writing some good stuff. He’s a little slow on the uptake as to who reads Fairfax Press though.

    Amazingly, if your target market is the educated idiot, it’s usually the educated idiot who will reply.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 10 at 07:32 PM • permalink

  5. the educated idiot, who can read and write, drive a motor vehicle and operate a computer, but lacks the simple complexity to comprehend such nuances of communication as intent, context, temper and humour.

    Sounds like he just described the typical Herald reader - these people aren’t the exception at the Herald, they make up the majority of it’s readership.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 10 at 07:34 PM • permalink

  6. I wasn’t a huge fan after the Crowe piece but have warmed to him, particularly as he takes on some of the more PC replies. He actually defended Tim at one stage when one of the comrades wanted to take a shot.

    Not such a bad bloke after all.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 10 at 07:42 PM • permalink

  7. OK, you guys don’t know stupid until you’ve been a doctor.

    Lack of education has something to do with it, but there are plenty of people with poor education who still possess enough smarts not to:
    a) Be absolutely flabbergasted when I can’t guarantee them their blood test eliminates all chance of all disease, especially all forms of cancer.
    b) See iridologists and homeopaths. I should include naturopaths, but at least their profession doesn’t completely defy the laws of chemistry or physiology.
    c) Ask for my help in breaking their habit of raiding the fridge at night.
    d) Not know where to sign their 5000th medicare claim (and I exclude those with clinical dementia from such criticism, mind you).
    e) Have a clue what the names of their medications are, which they have been taking for a number of years, let alone the dose or what they’re for. Deciphering their attempts can, however be fun, eg: “I take latex in the morning.” Do you mean lasix, sir?
    f) Present a symptom for the 10th time as if it’s the first time, despite repeated explanation.
    g) Request their 3rd referral for termination of pregnancy.
    h) Weigh 140kg and swear they eat very little (it’s stupidity because they actually believe it).

    I could go on, but it becomes boring. Needless to say, there are many people with very fixed ideas. They arrive at their conclusions various ways, from anecdotal reports to sometimes nothing at all - spontaneous belief, if you will. The frequency and degree of stupidity never ceases to fascinate me, although I don’t get as angry or shocked as when I first started out.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 10 at 07:44 PM • permalink

  8. OK, you guys don’t know stupid until you’ve been a doctor.

    I role played a Doctor one night. Lotsa fun and what a power trip. That script pad is like Spanish Fly! Speaking of which, Dminor. I’ve been taking Spanish Fly recently and have this terrible itching sensation in my nether regions. Can you recommend a topical cream?

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 10 at 07:55 PM • permalink

  9. #8, I.T. - Dencorub.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 10 at 07:57 PM • permalink

  10. He may be a pal of Tim’s, but it’s not very original or smart to lambast those who voted against the Republic in the referendum, those who own 4WD vehicles, and those who might be sympathetic to the anger against muslim yoof’s bad behaviour at Coogee and pretty much anywhere else.
    Is Eugenics to be rehabilitated? Is democracy a bad idea after all? Is it worth continuing to attempt to communicate with people for whom you have lost all respect?

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 01 10 at 07:59 PM • permalink

  11. Great article. He’s so right about the baby bonus - no intelligent person would be encouraged to produce an offspring for a measly $5000. Anyone who considers that their child is going be supported by the sweat of their own labour would laugh at that $5000 inducement - it’s only an incentive for those who’ll claim cradle-to-grave government benefits anyway.

    Way to grow the welfare classes, Howard & co. Thanks a very fucking much. And they probably won’t even vote for you.

    Posted by James Waterton on 2007 01 10 at 08:06 PM • permalink

  12. Jack seems a tad irritable, but I can certainly sympathize.  I spent many years working at a university (which, as everyone knows, are black holes of educated idiocy).

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 10 at 08:17 PM • permalink

  13. #11 - The $5000 is meant to be used to set up little Ophelia or Oscar with pram, bassinet and jump suit. If it was paid in vouchers, it wouldn’t be such a bad idea. Unfortunately most people stupid ebough to believe that keeping the night tool unsheathed in order to get $5000 for nix are most likely to spend it at Mohammad’s Meth Market.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 10 at 08:18 PM • permalink

  14. Very disappointing to see that Fairfax readers are giving fuckwits a bad name.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 10 at 08:20 PM • permalink

  15. #9

    #8, I.T. - Dencorub

    I hope Fairfax readers don’t see that advice. Well maybe I do.

    Posted by amortiser on 2007 01 10 at 08:23 PM • permalink

  16. educated idiocy is semi-oxymoronic

    over-educated idiocy more like.

    Posted by Rob Read on 2007 01 10 at 08:30 PM • permalink

  17. It must have pleased Jack Marx to read the first comment. Laden with wit, irony and nuance, it included this gem:

    ...that most of what you have written above, true though it is will be lost on the witless that will read this and then a spew invecitives at you (misspelt and poor grammer of course included.

    I was tempted to put in the bolds and sics but there are just too many of them.

    Posted by Skeeter on 2007 01 10 at 08:32 PM • permalink

  18. Poor Marx; he makes a salient point and then crashes and burns. According to the logical progression of his article, stupid Fairfax readers are the ones who took part in the Cronulla Riots and voted against the Republic. Uh-huh.

    He starts by identifying a subset of Australians who somehow manage to be both highly educated and stupid (ie Fairfax readers), but ends by slagging off the uneducated and stupid, which is a) ungentlemanly and b) like shooting fish in a barrel.

    Posted by blandwagon on 2007 01 10 at 08:37 PM • permalink

  19. Jack might this helpful in working off his anger.
    Courtesy of IShouldBeWorking.com.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 01 10 at 08:40 PM • permalink

  20. #8 IT

    WATCH OUT! DMinor is having you on! Dencorub is a toothpaste.

    Posted by Penguin on 2007 01 10 at 08:41 PM • permalink

  21. #20 - Hmm, I’m pretty sure it’s a lubricant.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 10 at 08:43 PM • permalink

  22. I’ve been using it ever since the local grocer stopped getting in Brylcreem.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 01 10 at 08:45 PM • permalink

  23. Perhaps Jack should write under a pseudonym, as in his brother Skid ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 10 at 08:52 PM • permalink

  24. i found jack’s ariticle arrogant and very unfunny. I’m sick of the people who voted against the republic line are stupid.

    the funniest thing in the article was the unintentional irony of talking about being our own nation while writing about SUVs (instead of 4WD’s) and blaming the Cronulla riots on people wanting ‘to bash dirty wogs’

    i may have missed the point, i just had to put my beautiful 8 month old kelpie down

    He got out of the yard for the first time ever this morning and got mown down by hoons who seem to thinkk my quiet suburban street is some kind of race track,

    maybe it’s just my frame of mind

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 10 at 09:02 PM • permalink

  25. are stupid line

    preview is my friend- i should use it

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 10 at 09:05 PM • permalink

  26. OT a little, but every time I go to an SMH link I get plagued with bloody pop-ups.

    I have firewalls out the wazoo, and never see a pop-up from anywhere else.

    Voodoo, Illuminati or the Masons?

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 01 10 at 09:08 PM • permalink

  27. It’s certainly encouraging to see a Fairfax writer who is angry at the people who pay his wages (aka readers). I’m guessing he lives in Newtown/Annandale, smokes, votes Labor, educated at Uni of Sydney, has an Arts degree, loves French movies.  I could go on but it would be interesting if Tim could give me a mark on these guesses.

    Posted by allan on 2007 01 10 at 09:13 PM • permalink

  28. Oh, come on, Tim, you’re not nearly as dense as cabbage…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 01 10 at 09:14 PM • permalink

  29. #24- sorry to hear about your pup.

    I didn’t supprot the republic referenda last time, because of the way it was to be implemented, as did a lot of other people. Royalty shits me, and is a revolting, anachronisitic, atavistic anathema (and they’re all bloody sausage eaters and tennant creeks anyway), but the idea of allowing the drooling retards on the hill in Canberra free reign to appoint a national leader is not on.
    Mind you, a popularly elected prez could be a problem as well- who want a President Kylie?

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 10 at 09:22 PM • permalink

  30. Doesn’t anyone remember the referendum on the republic?

    It wasn’t a straight up/down “Should Australia become a republic?” The proposal specifically stated that the president of the republic would be appointed by parliament.

    That is why it got rejected.

    Marx is at least right that Fairfax readers produce outstandingly stupid responses, as we can see in the comments for that post.

    Posted by Pixy Misa on 2007 01 10 at 09:24 PM • permalink

  31. #29
    The sentiments of the majority?

    If he keeps bitchin’ Fairfax may have to lay Jack Off ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 10 at 09:27 PM • permalink

  32. Sorry about your dog, eenie. :( In a just world those racing assholes would be pegged out in the middle of a speedway and run over repeatedly by racing cars—or maybe SUVs, or both!—driven by dog owners.

    Must work on that World Domination/Remake The Earth My Way project…

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2007 01 10 at 09:28 PM • permalink

  33. #24
    Commiserations: kelpies seem to have a bit of road sense, too (got a 1 y.o. part-bred meself).

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 10 at 09:32 PM • permalink

  34. Quite right Habib, but I think the majority of Australians would have better sense than to “want a President Kylie.” Most people I know who voted against a Republic did so because they could not stomach the idea of the prime minister of the day being the sole determinant of who should be president. Pretty clever ploy by John Howard - guaranteed to produce a ‘NO’ vote.

    eeniemeenie, kelpies are beautiful, sorry to read you lost yours. We have “anti hoon laws” in my state but they don’t seem to do much good. The retards are long gone, leaving behind clouds of white smoke and burnt rubber, by the time the wallopers arrive.

    Posted by hipower on 2007 01 10 at 09:53 PM • permalink

  35. #8 Dminor

    I.T. - Dencorub.

    A decade and a half ago, when I was a uni student, I worked at a firewood yard. Of course, it was winter and I made the mistake of wearing jeans. Heavy cloth plus water makes a fairly abrasive combination. So one night, fearing the raw flesh on my upper thighs might become infected, I decided to apply dettol (an Australian brand antiseptic). I woke up during the night with strips of raw skin hanging off my scrotum. Three hours later, after continual cold showers, I began to feel like living again. (Spike Milligan, in one of his autobiographies, relates a similar situation when he and his comrades were given topical alcohol for a parasite infection during WWII.)

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 10 at 09:53 PM • permalink

  36. #31 Egg

    The punch lines of the joke were:

    ” ...., so I don’t know whether I should lay you or Jack off” he glumly averred.

    “Well, I think you should jack off, because I’ve got a headache."

    I’m sure you can all make up the rest of the joke without any help from me.

    jlc

    Posted by Jack from Montreal on 2007 01 10 at 09:54 PM • permalink

  37. eeniemeenie, I am sad to hear about your dog. I hope he did not suffer. I’m really not sure what I think about an afterlife, but hopefully your kelpie is rounding up angels in heaven.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 10 at 09:59 PM • permalink

  38. #36
    :)

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 10 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  39. eenie, commiserations. Hugs too.

    A suggestion : go to the nearest RSPCA pound and give a dog a good home.

    Sorry again though, it’s hard.

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2007 01 10 at 10:02 PM • permalink

  40. #36
    Perhaps Jack’s giving SMH a headache?
    He’ll never make the head job at this rate.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 10 at 10:05 PM • permalink

  41. Yeah, I read the Republic bit as well and concur with people’s sentiments expressed above.

    However, Marx, whilst giving the impression he is a bit pompous, is one of the few SMH writers that: a) challenges people’s thoughts in an intelligent way rather than writing the same guff over and over again and b) is not predictable.

    I did like the thread about ‘what song do you never want to hear again’. Refereshingly for the SMH, most were mainstream songs with those defending ‘cool’ artists like Cave or Morrissey getting a raz. Like it or not, there are times when he does stick it right up the luvvies.

    Eenie, sorry to hear about the dog.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 10 at 10:12 PM • permalink

  42. From the article:

    voting “no” in referendums that ask such simple questions as whether we’d like to be our own nation

    I was overseas at the time, but I thought the most important question was whether we wanted a political president. Consider Mike Nifong.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 10 at 10:16 PM • permalink

  43. I love it when the Timbonater posts something about his friends.

    I’m guessing the experience must be something like being staked to the ground naked and having honey poured over you…

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 10 at 10:21 PM • permalink

  44. #30 Pixie
    Doesn’t anyone remember the referendum on the republic?
    Does anyone remember an even more notorious referendum?
    In 1978 a referendum was held for the Self Government for the ACT. The people of the ACT overwhelmingly rejected it, around 68% voting for the staus quo.  In 1988 (during Hawke’s term), the ACT had self government foisted upon them rather sneakily. In 1992 a referendum was held to choose an electoral system - this in spite of a majority, just a few years earlier, opting NOT to have self government.

    The Hawke government somehow found a way to subvert the will of the people. The ACT now have one of the most incompetent and expensive (per capita), governments (Stanhopeless) Australia has ever seen.

    Anybody remember how Hawkey managed this little party trick? I cannot recall a more dangerous subversion of Australian democracy in my lifetime.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 10 at 10:24 PM • permalink

  45. I would replace “educated idiots” with a Southern Americanism from my great grandma:

    “educated fools”.

    Kinda rolls off the tongue.

    Posted by Harry Bergeron on 2007 01 10 at 10:25 PM • permalink

  46. #39- or have a look at some of the rescue sites on the web- we got our current two ratbags through a mob called friends of the pound. It’s hard to lose a hound, and when our last one popped her clogs at 18 we swore blind we wouldn’t get another for a while, which lasted less than a month. Wouldn’t be without this pair now, bloody spoilt brats. (Mother and daughter staffy).

    Gotta agree with Marx (now I never thought I’d ever use that line) about the exponential growth of idiocy; I’m rapidly coming to the opinion that evolution is a fraud, as humans seem to get stupider by the minute. Agree also on the baby bonus- giving bogans a plasma tv and a few grand in the TAB account for producing another unemployable halfwit isn’t particularly sound economics.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 10 at 10:33 PM • permalink

  47. a few grand in the TAB account
    Hey habib, do you know anyobody who could slip me a few lazy large ones to top up my TAB account? Any donations gratefully accepted.

    Just slip it in here:
    Account: stillrunnin
    Password: doyadough

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 10 at 10:44 PM • permalink

  48. Gotta agree with Marx (now I never thought I’d ever use that line) about the exponential growth of idiocy; I’m rapidly coming to the opinion that evolution is a fraud, as humans seem to get stupider by the minute.

    Nah.  You’re not nearly cynical enough.

    People are stupid.  People have always been stupid.  Today, people have more opportunities to be stupid in public, and can reach a wider audience, but they are certainly no more stupid than in years past (and perhaps less so).

    The stupid will always be with us, because we are they.

    Posted by Pixy Misa on 2007 01 10 at 10:45 PM • permalink

  49. Sherwood Gold in the 7th at Gosford this arvo can’t lose (you didn’t hear it from me OK.....)

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 10 at 10:46 PM • permalink

  50. #7.
    My GP was very apologetic that a fractured glenoid wasn’t picked up for one month. I said “Wasn’t your fault, don’t say sorry.”

    g) Request their 3rd referral for termination of pregnancy.

    You’d think they’d figured out what was causing it by then.

    #9
    That’d be the Evil Dr Dminor?

    #12 RebeccaH - I’m still in the black hole.

    #20
    Evil Penguin!

    #21
    Painful Infidel Tiger! You smell smoke?

    #24
    Sorry about your puppy, eeniemeenie.

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 10 at 10:48 PM • permalink

  51. ... no betting plunges please fellow desperates - we don’t want the odds ruined....

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 10 at 10:48 PM • permalink

  52. As for the baby bonus - I’m for it, in the sense that it is one of the least worst ways for the government to waste money.  I don’t believe that any greater proportion of the new generation will be useless morons than is true for the prior one (and they pretty much have to do better than the baby boomers).

    Though the small percentage of the population capable of original and incisive thought is what drives all human progress, with science, technology, and capitalist economics - everything good about the world, in other words - you still need the rest of the population (us) to make it happen.

    I’m all for idiots in general; I only hate them as individuals.

    Posted by Pixy Misa on 2007 01 10 at 10:52 PM • permalink

  53. Bonmot, easy, just pop out a baby.

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 10 at 10:52 PM • permalink

  54. I would replace “educated idiots” with a Southern Americanism from my great grandma:

    “educated fools”.

    Kinda rolls off the tongue.

    “Educated idiots” sounds better to us for a couple of reasons: We like our insults to be as multi-syllabic and drawn out as possible, and the longer version gives us ample opportunity to use our accent to maximum effect.

    Posted by AlburyShifton on 2007 01 10 at 10:57 PM • permalink

  55. And if you still think people are getting dumber, consider that MacArthur Park was a major hit in the 60’s and 70’s, but by 1997 we had evolved enough to vote it the worst song of all time.

    Posted by Pixy Misa on 2007 01 10 at 10:57 PM • permalink

  56. #24 Sorry about the little bloke eenimeenie. This is sad and hard not to get angry. Toerags who enjoy putting others in danger. If you got the bludger hoons’ names perhaps you might consider letting us ...

    Posted by geoff on 2007 01 10 at 10:58 PM • permalink

  57. The idiot used to be confined to a village. Now with the computer tubes, telegraph machine and voice velocitator he/she can share his/her idiocy with the whole world. It’s a small price to pay for having the luxury of downloading Japanese schoolgirls vomiting on each other.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 10 at 11:03 PM • permalink

  58. #49

    I’m going for Jahidigh

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 10 at 11:03 PM • permalink

  59. can’t have your cake and eat it too.

    You call people idjits for saying no to a republic. But we all saw the luvviefest that was the constitutional convention beforehand. How could we say yes?

    You’re against the prolferation and excesses of the Canberrarti, but could you imagine a bigger Moonbatfest than a post-successful referendum Canberra? Oh, the committees...oh the Grants for competitions for designing flags/letterheads/currency...oh the sub committes...the steering committees...the working groups...the funds, the retreats, the conferences… a veritable cut-and-come-again gravy train on the search for the essence of ‘straya.

    And equally inevitably, we all know the flag would end up being a dreamtime interpretation of a white settler eating an aborginal baby whilst flaying it’s mother with a cat o’nine tails.

    You want this? Really?

    Posted by anonymous guest on 2007 01 10 at 11:11 PM • permalink

  60. Habib, #46,

    I was laughing my head off at your post on the diatribe where you were talking about your dogs going crazy over a stray possum though silent when real crimes were happening. I thought to myself, ‘I bet he has a Staffy’. I was right after all.

    I told my dad who has one and he had a laugh as well.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 10 at 11:13 PM • permalink

  61. #57

    A logical extension to the work of Marshall McLuhan - the global village idiot.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 10 at 11:14 PM • permalink

  62. #57 - Exactly.  Well, I assume you mean movies of said Japanese schoolgirls; technology hasn’t advanced quite that far yet.

    Posted by Pixy Misa on 2007 01 10 at 11:14 PM • permalink

  63. Pardon my Yank ignorance (I’m probably one of the idiots Mr. Marx was writing about), but I have never understood why a country with a prime minister needs a president?

    Sorry about your pup, eeniem.  It’s a bit too soon right now, but I agree with a couple of others here:  the smartest, sweetest dog I ever owned came from the local pound.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 10 at 11:29 PM • permalink

  64. O/T Muslim family, murder/suicide in Perth.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 10 at 11:54 PM • permalink

  65. A president is the head of state.

    The Prime Minister is the head of the Majority party (as in the majority leader)

    Posted by Go Canucks on 2007 01 10 at 11:55 PM • permalink

  66. Our polling booths ought to be fitted with electric chairs.

    Seems a bit strong. I believe a simple joy buzzer would suffice in most cases (although I’m willing to make an exception for, say, Massachusetts).

    I tend to agree with Habib. Either evolution’s a fraud, or there’s been some catastrophic accident in the gene pool. Or perhaps, given the indisputably rapid increase in scientific and technological knowledge, in conjunction with a general lowering of taste and culture, the left brain is overwhelming the right brain. Or maybe I’m just rambling, in the hope that my wife will go to bed and I can sneak outside for a smoke.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 11 at 12:01 AM • permalink

  67. #24 - I’m really sorry about your dog.  As a an owner of 4 dogs I know how you feel.  I don’t think non-dog-owners know how attached you can become to a dog.  To lose an older dog is bad enough but losing a friendly, cute, playful puppy is a great deal worse.

    A few months back I let two get away from me on an off-the-leash walk (I was not popular).  One got picked up real soon (chipped).

    The other (not chipped) we thought was lost for sure as he was last seen heading down the on-ramp of the Eastern Freeway. This was a Saturday afternoon.

    After spending most of the evening patrolling the freeway we rang the RSCPA the next day on the off-chance.  Ubelievably he had been brought in.

    A really kind soul saw him running down the middle of the freeway (4 lanes). The dog took off across the reservation and down the other side!  This fellow did an illegal u-ey across the freeway, slowed beside the poor little fellow, who hopped in on the passenger seat.

    By this time the police were also on the scene, who suggested the RSCPA pound, several km in the opposite direction he was driving.

    The poor dog was quivering wreck and took 4 days to recover.

    It’s reassuring to know there are really kind people about who will stop to help a defenceless dog.  This chap had temporarily lost a dog himself and knew what it was like.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2007 01 11 at 12:06 AM • permalink

  68. #66 paco
    hope that my wife will go to bed and I can sneak outside for a smoke.

    I did that for 10 years, winter and summer and in the rain.

    When I went back inside, she always smelt smoke. She knew it, I knew it. Our shared little deceit.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 12:07 AM • permalink

  69. BTW, I’m not sure I agree with Jack’s apparent assertion that the stupid people know who they are. Try this experiment. Collect 100 people at random, put them in a gym or theatre, ask the question, “How many folks here are morons?”, then call for a show of hands. I doubt that you will actually see any raised hands. Well, except for the hard-of-hearing guy in the back who thought you said, “Who wants macaroons?” But the rest of ‘em? Clever lot; or a bit above average, at least. Just ask them.

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 11 at 12:10 AM • permalink

  70. #66 & 68

    Looks like a job for Paco’s Tobacco.

    Paco’s Virginia Slims - Now smokeless and odourless. Same easy draw, same rich flavour! Hand rolled on a virgin’s inner thigh. It aint tobacco, if it aint paco.

    Delight in ‘em, when you light ‘em!

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 11 at 12:13 AM • permalink

  71. O/T - Good sense from Boris Johnson in the Torygraph on climate change.

    Posted by Ian Deans on 2007 01 11 at 12:14 AM • permalink

  72. #70 Infidel Tiger: I like your style! How would you like to be the new “Paco Man” - the cowboy character we feature in our cigarette ads? You do look like a cowboy don’t you?

    Posted by paco on 2007 01 11 at 12:20 AM • permalink

  73. #72 - I’ll do it! But only for the kids. It’s incontrovertible that the rise in childhood obesity is directly linked to the poor little blighters not been able to use the best slimming aid known to man. Plus they’ll all look way cool.

    Hey! This isn’t some Village People type set up is it? God knows I’m never getting dressed as a construction worker again.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 11 at 12:30 AM • permalink

  74. Not much time left to get your money on for the 7th at Gosford.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 11 at 12:49 AM • permalink

  75. #74 - Someone’s put the farm on Sherwood Gold. It’s come in from $3.80 to $1.45. Never bet odds on.

    I’d stick with MM’s choice of Jahidigh. It’s prone to losing it’s head, is spooked easily, but should go okay in blinkers.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 11 at 01:01 AM • permalink

  76. #66 paco

    I tend to agree with Habib. Either evolution’s a fraud, or there’s been some catastrophic accident in the gene pool. Or perhaps, given the indisputably rapid increase in scientific and technological knowledge, in conjunction with a general lowering of taste and culture, the left brain is overwhelming the right brain.

    The miracles of modern medicine have interfered with natural processes: the lackwits and the stupid survive into adulthood and manage to reproduce, when in ages past they would not.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 01 11 at 01:02 AM • permalink

  77. #8
    How long are you planning to rub it in?
    Some preparations warn of localised inflammation and swelling.

    #9
    Will take I.T.’s mind off the itching.

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 11 at 01:06 AM • permalink

  78. #49 #75

    You’re right - huge plunge on Sherwood Gold. $1.00 last time I looked.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 11 at 01:08 AM • permalink

  79. #78 - Bonmot’s retirement plan.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 11 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  80. Hey paco!

    Is PACO Industries looking for a new global headquarters?

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 01 11 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  81. #75 - Sherwood Gold is a crap animal (though the field is pretty crappy). If the topweight is anywhere near right then he’ll round them up. I don’t reckon Jahidigh is any chance. Watch for French Bride to get home strongly, as well.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 11 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  82. #78

    doh - that must have been the money for the place. Still come in a long way.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 11 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  83. #78 Margos
    Bugger it. All the fiends here have done a big plonk.
    Last night it was $4.20 at midday today, $3.60.
    Now bloody evens. Hell.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 01:11 AM • permalink

  84. #79 Infidel
    Retirement plan? You effing jest.
    The money I’ve wasted on the nags over the years I could buy waterfront at Vaucluse.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 01:14 AM • permalink

  85. This is the most interested I’ve ever been in a mid week regional race! Giddyup!

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 11 at 01:14 AM • permalink

  86. Always back the brown one.

    Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 11 at 01:15 AM • permalink

  87. And they’re racing!
    Sherwood Gold 2nd.
    Paid $1.30

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 01:17 AM • permalink

  88. His readers lack ‘simple complexity,’ eh?

    Tough, what with complex complexity being all the rage these days,

    Posted by Harry Eagar on 2007 01 11 at 01:19 AM • permalink

  89. #81 - good analysis, even if I say so myself, with the winner paying around $5.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 11 at 01:20 AM • permalink

  90. Hope you had it for a place.
    I told you it wouldn’t win and to take the place only (Bonmot is related to the woman who was driving Einfeld’s car so don’t exactly take that on oath)

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 01:21 AM • permalink

  91. Jack Lacton has a crystal ball. Waiting on the lab for the results on the other one.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 11 at 01:23 AM • permalink

  92. #81 & #89 Jack Lacton
    Sure your name’s not Jack Denham?
    Any tips for the twilight dogs tonight at Angle Park?

    When punting gets you you’re gone!

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 01:24 AM • permalink

  93. #91-#91: It was a race I wanted to bet in and had a nice win there. The favourite was always going to lead but was also always going to be taken on by the two from gates 1&2, which run up near the front as well, putting pressure on. That happened so good call. I assessed Upsized as settling two back and two out, and as it turned out he was on the fence and two back, which was even better. With the speed on up front he was able to get home strongly thus my original ‘round them up’ comment. Last time in he ran in an $81K Listed race and was only beaten 6 lengths by Al Samer, which is a performance that none of the rest of the field could have achieved.

    Sometimes I get it right. Sometimes I get it wrong. However, it is how I make most of my living these days…

    And sorry, no tips for dogs! I swore off them years ago.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 11 at 01:40 AM • permalink

  94. #93 - Strewth! I select a name I like and cross my fingers.

    Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 11 at 01:48 AM • permalink

  95. thanks for all your kind thoughts- the vets at the end of my street and i had him there within minutes so he didn’t suffer long which is something i guess.

    on habib coming to the opinion that evolution is a fraud, as humans seem to get stupider by the minute, i’d disagree.

    a better explanation would be that we live in cotton wool nanny state societies that insulate us from evolutionary pressures.

    This results in greater numbers of people who would have been picked off by natural selection living long enough to pass on the stupid gene.

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 11 at 01:51 AM • permalink

  96. Used to go to the panlickers every thursday night at the ‘Gabba, made a bit of dough out of it as well, despite being absolutely blotto every meeting (we were turfed out of a fast racer on the South East Freeway one night after an acquiantance parked a tiger in the glovebox). Nothing beats being pissed at the races, unless of course you’re a bookie with a ring full of pissed punters on payday.
    Magic Millions this weekend.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 11 at 01:55 AM • permalink

  97. #24: “I’m sick of the people who voted against the republic line are stupid ...”

    But how could one vote against something that was supported by both Whitlam and Fraser? Answer me that!

    Not to mention Janet holmes a’Court, Philip Adams and so many other intellectual giants!

    Posted by McAnzac on 2007 01 11 at 02:11 AM • permalink

  98. Sorry about the pup, eenie. Speaking of idiots in cars, I - along with my wife and two babies, 18 months old and ten weeks old - were crossing a road at a zebra crossing (i.e. where cars must stop) a week before Christmas. Two cars had stopped to let us cross. A third car - a hoon in a Subaru - decided he couldn’t be arsed waiting, overtook the two waiting cars, crossed to our side of the crossing and sped off, almost wiping us out - a family of four.

    Took the number, reported it to police. The cop said, sadly, no action could be taken as no-one was hurt. He also intimated to me that if I were to have made a citizen’s arrest, police would have been compelled to attend and a charge could have been laid.

    Good luck making a citizen’s arrest of a dickhead in a WRX.

    Meanwhile the nanny state of Victoria is threatening to round up old ladies for watering their roses. Not that that has anything to do it really, I suppose.

    Posted by ilibcc on 2007 01 11 at 02:26 AM • permalink

  99. John Singleton has a thing for stupid American blondes

    Last week Paris Hilton to promote his Blonde beer

    Tara Reid this week to promote something or other for him at Magic Millions

    Talk about cultural cringe!

    Don’t we have any blonde airheads in OZ?

    #95 eeniemeenie

    Sorry to hear about your little doggie

    We lost our gorgeous little 12 months old cat last year - hit by a car on our quiet suburban street which happens to be long straight and is ideal for hooons to try and break the world speed limit with burnouts a regulation at all the cross streets

    Our 3 ancient cats are wise - they never go near the front - just backyarders

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 11 at 02:26 AM • permalink

  100. #93 Jack Laton
    Next Thursday I’m going to the night races at Canterbury. I’ll keep an eye out for your Roller in the carpark....

    I’ll check the threads next Thursday and see if you offer any tips. Obviously you’r a better punter than me gunga-din.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 02:33 AM • permalink

  101. Sorry Jack about the balls up with yur name…

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 02:34 AM • permalink

  102. #100 - If I see anything I think can win then I’ll let people know. Canterbury night meetings can be tough, though, so unless there’s a standout I won’t get too interested.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 11 at 02:42 AM • permalink

  103. Just listening to the radio - more news on Sheikh Hilaly - you know our favourite catmeat sheihkh?

    Apparently he’s reportedly given a sermon in Egypt and he’s said that Muslims deserve to be here in OZ because they paid to get here, unlike everyone else who came here in shackles

    And he’s defended the Skaf brothers - remember those delightful gang rapists? The sheikh reckons it was all a 9/11 conspiracy

    Remember none of this is confirmed yet but it will be interesting to hear what comes out of this

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 11 at 02:46 AM • permalink

  104. OK it’s been confirmed

    The catmeat sheikh has actually really said all that

    Muslims are entitled to be here because they paid for their trips unlike Aussies who came here in shackles

    And the Skaf gang rapist scum were treated harshly because of 9/11

    This is one stupid sheikh - there are eyes and ears open everywhere to report back to OZ on the sh*t that comes out of his mouth

    I hope he catches some terrible disease in Egypt and can’t come back here

    Apparently Keysar Trad apologised for him - no mention about “taken out of context”

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 11 at 03:16 AM • permalink

  105. Magpie,

    you are right, one minute the SMH is harping about our cringing and the next it has banner pictures of Ms Reid’s and Ms Hilton’s publicity seeking wankery.

    Just another question, shouldn’t a sermon be about heaven, doing good, Mohammed’s life, yada yada, but he injects the Skaf brothers into it? Whats the go with Muslim sermons?

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 11 at 03:32 AM • permalink

  106. keysers on newsradio right now ‘ taken out of context’ apparently- just explaining how much he [hilali] loves australia’ tht sweet smell of taqqiya

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 01 11 at 03:38 AM • permalink

  107. #105 nic

    Because the Skaf brothers were innocent and need the sheikh’s support - they were picked on because they were Muslim etc etc etc

    You know the story

    I hope this again makes headline news around the world

    More education for those who defend this religious cult

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 11 at 03:47 AM • permalink

  108. #104 aussiemagpie
    Hilaly on ACA tonight.
    Reckons there’s “no freedom or democracy in Australia. It’s all lies”.

    This guy is a dangerous, deluded, demented lunatic.

    As foil to the idiot sheik, interesting to see that Andrew Bolt hasn’t sailed over the edge of the world - he looked and sounded in chipper form. Naturally, Trad’s two-bob’s worth was the usual incoherent, babbling defence like, ‘the sheik was misquoted’ (for the 10,000th time).

    Bolt reckons if these head cases are allowed to stay in Australia we’ll see Cronulla x 10.

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 03:56 AM • permalink

  109. Speaking of idiots....

    Apparently some Prussian general divided officers into a grid with two axes - stupid/smart and lazy/hard-working.

    Smart + hardworking officers were the go-getters.  Good to have around.

    Smart + lazy made good staff officers - they would always figure out the easiest way to do something.  The lazier the better.

    Stupid + lazy were found a sinecure somewhere.  Minding the stables or doing something inconsequential that they couldn’t screw up.  The stupid and lazy will always be amongst us and they must be accommodated.

    However, he had an iron rule that the stupid + hardworking were to be identified and weeded out as rapidly and ruthlessly as possible.  Stupid, hardworking people make life miserable for the rest of us by trying very hard to implement very stupid ideas.

    SMH idiots - stupid enough to get fixated om some dumb idea, hard working enough to be bothered to write a letter to the editor.  When the revolution comes, they have to be the first up against the wall.

    Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 11 at 03:58 AM • permalink

  110. In the Australian:

    Channel 7 said Sheik Hilali made the comments in an appearance on Egyptian television.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 11 at 04:00 AM • permalink

  111. #107

    More education for those who defend this religious cult

    No.

    Death Cult.

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 11 at 04:06 AM • permalink

  112. #110 Channel 7 said Sheik Hilali made the comments in an appearance on Egyptian television.
    Yes he did - ACA just covered the story with their own talking heads. Apparently the fool will be going on ME TV again tomorrow. Wait for more of the same....

    Posted by Bonmot on 2007 01 11 at 04:19 AM • permalink

  113. #66 paco

    “Giving up smoking’s easy, I’ve done it hundreds of times.”

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 11 at 04:27 AM • permalink

  114. Er, submitted that accidentally early. It’s from Mark Twain (as you probably already know). Must confess to the same humiliating wife-deception myself, in the past. In one of my clear stages now. Hope it lasts forever; nasty habit.

    I’d like confessions, please, from everyone who ever sneaked cigarettes behind their spouse’s back. I have a feeling it’s one of those hush-hush activities many do but never talk about.

    Posted by Dminor on 2007 01 11 at 04:31 AM • permalink

  115. infuriate ol’ catsmeat & his ghastly mates with australia day apparel

    Posted by KK on 2007 01 11 at 04:36 AM • permalink

  116. #108 bonmot

    Bolt reckons if these head cases are allowed to stay in Australia we’ll see Cronulla x 10
    .

    I agree with Mr Bolt

    No matter how much handwringing, Muslim surfer girls in burqinis, outreach programmes to help troubled Muslim youth, etc etc most Aussies see through all this BS

    Cronulla was the direct result of years of police inaction as directed by their political superiors and yes nothing has changed really - except Cronulla Mall and the beach walk are now very nice places to be, with the large police presence still there 12 months on

    I lived in Cronulla for 5 years and my son’s then GF was gangraped and these scum threatened to kill her family if she reported it

    The main reason my son now lives in Queensland is because he was sick and tired of being harassed by members of a large population of poor misunderstood youths who make it their mission to harass Anglo young men and women

    The sheikh is their poster boy

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 11 at 04:36 AM • permalink

  117. OT dog story. My parents’ dog like to sleep on the couch, however my mother does not permit this. When she, the dog, hears my mother approaching she jumps off the couch, yet my mother can feel the residual warmth. The dog is always surprised. Another tale, when the dog wants to go for a walk she usually finds her lead and displays it in her mouth. Once she could not find it so she grabbed one of my mother’s walking boots (that my mother only used for walkies) and used that instead.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 11 at 04:54 AM • permalink

  118. Seeing as nearly all the Lebanese Muslims ewnriching SW Sydney with their superior presence came here as refugees (or are the progeny of same), so the taxpayer paid their passage, and continues to support some 70% of these ubermensch by one means or another.

    Very few Anglo Saxon Australians are the descendants of convicts- even multi-generational ones (like my family) are the descendents of free settlers, landholders, military personnel, merchants and officials. Anglo Irish Australians are a different matter, but even in that ethnicity the number with a provable link to convict ancestry is very small.

    So even the few things el Hillbilly spouted which weren’t completely demented and obnoxious are still complete bollocks. This daft old Sand Goblin needs a good slap upside his head, and a quick revocation of citizenship- I’d say he’d be a hit on Egyptian TV, maybe a talkshow titled "Filthy Infidel Spawn of Pigs and Monkeys, and How To Get On With Them. Traffic Updates* on the Half Hour."

    *An easy job this one- “heavy goat and mule traffic, with a large backup behind an overturned camel on the Memory of the Martyrs tollway. Avoid the Beard of the Prophet Esplanade due to heavy carbombings, beheadings and beatings of harlots.”

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 11 at 05:09 AM • permalink

  119. #118 habib

    *An easy job this one- “heavy goat and mule traffic, with a large backup behind an overturned camel on the Memory of the Martyrs tollway. Avoid the Beard of the Prophet Esplanade due to heavy carbombings, beheadings and beatings of harlots

    Wonderful stuff! Thanks for making me laugh!

    Posted by aussiemagpie on 2007 01 11 at 05:13 AM • permalink

  120. #64 Infidel Tiger. Looks like that has absolutely nothing to do with islam, rather a mentally sick father.

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 11 at 05:26 AM • permalink

  121. I’m presuming that this is a picture of Jack Marx.  If so I will excuse his remarks re the referendum on the basis of his relative youth which, as many of us will know, can often be associated with foolishness.

    But what I would really like to know is what gives with the little bit of hair under the bottom lip?  Is there a name for that particular style? 

    While I’m at this, is there a name for the hair style many young men wear in which they mould their hair into a low midline peak so that, from front on, they bear a slight resemblance to the coneheads?  Ten or twenty years from now (assuming we haven’t all died in a nuclear or other conflagration) will these blokes cringe when they see photos of their youthful selves just as some of us old dears do when we see pictures of ourselves in, say, an Afro, or painted-on lower eyelashes?  Personally I think the painted-on lower eyelashes don’t look too bad.  Or at least I didn’t think they did the last time I looked at the photo.

    Posted by Janice on 2007 01 11 at 05:44 AM • permalink

  122. #118 - Very few Anglo Saxon Australians are the descendants of convicts...

    In fact to be able to trace one’s ancestry to a convict is a matter for great pride in Australia, especially if the ancestor arrived with the First Fleet.

    The Sand Goblin (great term!) picked the wrong insult - one that has a meaning the exact opposite to that he intended. Just goes to show how poorly integrated he is.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2007 01 11 at 05:51 AM • permalink

  123. #121 - Personally I think the painted-on lower eyelashes don’t look too bad. .

    What’s worse - and you still see it occasionally - is painted-on cupid’s bow lips. One of my local councillors and a former Mayor - Irene Goonan - does it (along with dark make-up applied with a trowel and henna hair). It looks bloody appalling. If you’ve got thin lips - live with them.

    Posted by walterplinge on 2007 01 11 at 05:55 AM • permalink

  124. Hear hear Habib (you’re going to have to change that name, a moot point about coming as refugees that has escaped Al Hilarity.

    Speaking of Egypt, once I was in transit and spent the time in Egypt Air’s first class lounge (snort). In one corner was a tv which I switched on only to find that the ‘Mecca channel’ was the only thing on.

    As much as I’ve travelled the world, I’m still undergoing counseling 10 years later for the general underhanded gypery that I witnessed on a daily basis, never again.

    Just dont mention the word ‘Bakhsheesh’ to me.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 01 11 at 05:56 AM • permalink

  125. F**k me!  Hilali’s a member of the Barmy Army, after all.  He’s obviously been boozing with The General or Jimmy as he’s now repeating one of our favourite songs,

    There is a house in New Orleans,
    They call the Rising Sun
    It’s been the ruin of many a poor boy, oh Lord I know I’m one
    One foot on the platform, one foot on the train
    I’m going back to New Orleans, to my ball and chain
    1,2,
    Ball and Chain! Ball and Chain!
    We came here with Backpacks you with Ball and Chain
    Ball and Chain! Ball and Chain!
    We came here with Backpacks you with Ball and Chain.

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 11 at 06:12 AM • permalink

  126. #125

    convicts?  we’re convicts?

    * snort *

    that’s h-i-l-a-r-i-o-u-s

    Here’s a swap:

    You come here with your backpacks, sing lame boorish fuckw1t songs about Australians, play sh1t cricket, and generally make c*nts out of yourselves.

    I’ll go to England, make a truckload of cash in English banks propping up sh1t financial software written by people who shouldn’t be let near a computer.

    I was going to say something about reaming a different English slapper each weekend, but now I’m married I can no longer partake in that one.

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 11 at 06:27 AM • permalink

  127. #126. Bazza McKenzie for the new millenium.

    Posted by Olrence on 2007 01 11 at 06:29 AM • permalink

  128. PommyGranate

    When you and your pasty, talentless mates make the trip over to the West Indies next year, are you going to indulge in sing-alongs about the locals being the descendents of slaves?  No?  Dickheads.

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 11 at 06:42 AM • permalink

  129. Murph

    Ok - who’s the winner and who’s the loser?

    Person A - made the cash in London, now living 60 seconds from Manly beach, surfing, water-skiing, swimming and playing football each and every day.

    Person B - sweating it out in some craphole of a London bank, freezing his arse off, squeezed into some cardboard box apartment next to downtown Little Somalia, for which he’s paying enough rent to kickstart the Tasmanian economy, despite having to bar his windows for fear of being murdered.

    Hint - Person A aint you, Murph.

    Apologies - i think i messed up the italics

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 11 at 06:48 AM • permalink

  130. #125
    Chain & ball-cock,
    all the better to flush you with ... :)

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 11 at 06:53 AM • permalink

  131. Murph

    “Dickheads”?  Bit strong. 
    They’re a bunch of well-meaning Pommies determined to have a good time despite having to support a shit cricket team.  No trouble is ever caused, enormous fun is had and plenty of friends are made on every tour.  And i have toured the WIndies before. The BA are enormously popular there. 

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 11 at 06:54 AM • permalink

  132. @128, 130

    My post wasn’t about the BA anyway.  It was about the Sheikh. 

    Never mind.

    Posted by pommygranate on 2007 01 11 at 06:55 AM • permalink

  133. unitalec

    Posted by Stevo on 2007 01 11 at 06:57 AM • permalink

  134. #121 Janice
    I call that bit of hair under the bottom lip “bum fluff”.

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 11 at 07:21 AM • permalink

  135. For God’s sake, round up those bloody italics now!

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 11 at 07:24 AM • permalink

  136. hell italics in a stampede!

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 11 at 07:25 AM • permalink

  137. yay me!

    Posted by kae on 2007 01 11 at 07:26 AM • permalink

  138. #121- I’ve come to refer to the affectation of a little downy tuft between the bottom lip and the chin as a “bollock cushion”. Make of this what you will.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 11 at 07:38 AM • permalink

  139. #121- the raised line of hair in the middle of a pointy head, much favoured by trendsetters like that fat idiot off Sydney FM radio who’s the surly judge on Australian Idol, is known as a “fauxhawk”.

    I prefer to refer to it as “fucking stupid ugly haircut. Their cerebral fluid must be leaking out th top of their leaf-nosed bat ugly head.”

    Posted by Habib on 2007 01 11 at 07:46 AM • permalink

  140. ah yes, PommyGranate, however one day soon I’ll return home, and you?  You’ll always be an English wanker

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 11 at 07:58 AM • permalink

  141. I’ve been to the West Indies for a cricket tour as well.  I can tell you this:  if you and your fat drunken tosspot loser mates sang songs that were as disrespectful to your hosts as the ones sung in Australia, you’d have the living sh1t punched out of you in two seconds flat.

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 11 at 08:01 AM • permalink

  142. #122 - I’m a descendent of a First Fleeter. Does that mean that I’m a liar and criminal?

    Better keep that to myself otherwise the authorities here in Brackistan might come to arrest me.

    Posted by Jack Lacton on 2007 01 11 at 09:15 AM • permalink

  143. Sorry to hear about your puppy, eenie.  Sorry you couldn’t shoot the tires out of that %!#$#%’s car and then beat him to a bloody pulp. 

    Elizabeth
    Imperial Keeper

    Posted by Elizabeth Imperial Keeper on 2007 01 11 at 11:11 AM • permalink

  144. What Murph said…

    Posted by monkeyfan on 2007 01 11 at 11:34 AM • permalink

  145. #65, thanks for the explanation.  I guess I don’t understand why the leader of the majority party (the prime minister) isn’t automatically considered the head of state for as long as he’s in office.  I’m too steeped in the American system, apparently.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 11 at 11:37 AM • permalink

  146. #121, that little tuft of hair under the bottom lip is called a “soul patch”, although it should be called “a ridiculous affectation worn mostly by wankers”.

    As for gelling up the hair on their heads, they mistakenly think it makes them look taller.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 11 at 11:53 AM • permalink

  147. Janice and Rebecca

    That’s not Jack Marx.  That’s a talentless bogan called Shannon Noll.

    Posted by murph on 2007 01 11 at 01:05 PM • permalink

  148. #147, murph.  Then I was right, eh?

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2007 01 11 at 01:16 PM • permalink

  149. Thanks to kae, Habib and Rebecca for enlightening me re ridiculous beardy affectations and ugly pointy haircuts, and to murph also for (I presume, correctly) identifying the person in the picture.

    Posted by Janice on 2007 01 11 at 06:46 PM • permalink

  150. #118
    Latest Traffic Update:

    Camel train derailment in the Heavenly tunnel; goats’ dung pile-up a stoning’s throw away from the CBD; and what’s that on the road, a head?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 01 12 at 01:49 AM • permalink

  151. #142. First Fleet descendent here, too, and bloody proud of it.

    There were quite a few petty criminals and plain unlucky sods who found themselves shipped out here, and when you consider how harsh this continent is, it’s a bloody miracle that so many survived and helped to make this country as great as it is.

    Descendent of settlers, miners, military and police also.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 01 12 at 04:08 AM • permalink

  152. "Great article. He’s so right about the baby bonus - no intelligent person would be encouraged to produce an offspring for a measly $5000.”

    Actually it’s very handy, even if it is vanishingly small compared to the cost of raising a kid or the government tax revenue generated over that kid’s lifetime. I speculate that it has a broad effect in slightly lessening the strong disincentives to having children.

    Posted by wreckage on 2007 01 14 at 08:51 AM • permalink

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