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University of Sydney examinations officer Glenn Condell:
I have thought for years that if conscription ever returned that I would rather spend time in gaol than serve alongside American and especially Israeli soldiers. But lately I’ve gone further and decided that if there were any way to fight AGAINST them, I would willingly do so.
I suppose Glenn could take the Hicks option; or perhaps he’ll quietly lay in wait until the next visit to Sydney of US troops. In other troop news, review the kind words of peaceniks following the murder of a US soldier’s family. Michelle Malkin has further details, including a memorial fund to which you may contribute.
(Via MentalFloss and daphne)
UPDATE. Retaliation protesters gather in Sydney. Other opponents of the Israeli resistance meet in London to hear George Galloway: “Hezbollah has never been a terrorist organisation. I am here to glorify the Lebanese resistance, Hezbollah, and to glorify the resistance leader, Hassan Nasrallah ...”
Careful, George. The last bloke you glorified ended up being hauled out of a spider hole.
(That first image via Dr. Sam, who suggests it shows “subversive Muslim protesters using the original swastikas in order to wish Israel good luck”)
UPDATE II. Rod Liddle on Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, formerly of London, lately residing in Lebanon:
You might have thought Bakri Mohammed would have been delighted that here he was, at last, in a position to act in perfect accord with his relentlessly stated beliefs; a chance to gird the loins, strap on the old Semtex and make haste for the Israeli border. Bang! But no; what he did instead was plead, quite piteously, with the British government to airlift him (at our expense) to safety. It is all very well to cheer on the suicide bombers and the struggle to expunge Israel from the face of the earth — but one shouldn’t really be expected to take part in such dangerous activities oneself. Suddenly the British way of doing things seemed awfully attractive as the shells rained down.
Can’t imagine Condell being such a wimp. Get over there, Glenn! The people need you!
If there was any way? Geez, it can’t be that hard to get to Lebanon, Gaza, Iraq or Afghanistan. I’m sure Hamas might be willing to dress a useless drooling braindead foreign troglodyte up in Semtex instead of one of their own, although I admit I don’t know how fiercely territorial the Palestinian death cult is about their craft, their great contribution to civilization.
In any case, it doesn’t seem to me that Condell is trying very hard at all to achieve his ambitions. If he ever does get off his retarded ass and claim his position alongside the murdererous primitive filth he admires, here’s hoping a JDAM will end that miserable sack of crap’s days swiftly.
Posted by Crispytoast on 2006 07 22 at 01:57 PM • permalinkFor us folks in the U.S., “gaol” == “jail”; I was once confused about an Orwell essay that used that word, lo in the dark days before the World Wide Web series of tubes were installed. Fortunately my American dictionary was kind enough to include a few of such foreign words as are used by our backwards cousins in the Commonwealth.
Ok, how much is a one-way ticket to Lebanon from Oz?
Ok, I looked it up. A oneway to Mumbai (how ironic!) from Sydney is $1,022.00. From Mumbai to Kuwait is 18,343 rupees (46 rupees to the dollar—I think it’s $383.77). From Kuwait to Lebanon is $100.
Surely this fucktard has $1,505.77 in his savings account (plus money for a 2-day layover in Mumbai, if he wants to leave Oz today). Ok, Glenn COndell, start your packing!
It was soup and sandwiches for the littley last night—nothing for me. I’d planned to cook a nice meal.
When I read of Sgt. Milkin’s family and came upon the site whose address I sent to Tim, I went out the back door and puked my guts out.
Is there no depths to which these people will not sink?
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 07 22 at 02:35 PM • permalinkIndeed, I am still so upset this morning that I am incapable of verb/noun number agreement.
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 07 22 at 02:38 PM • permalinkI will gladly put the first $100 into a fund for Mr. Condell, for a one way ticket to any hot spot in the Middle East. I’ll pack his bags for him and even take him to the airport and put him on the plane.
It has taken almost 60 years for me to get as salty as I am, and I’ve met a lot of loathsome creatures getting here. But the worst are people, like those on Ant’s blog, or Kos Kids, etc., who hate life so much that they not only do not want to live, but don’t want anyone else to live either. It is a shock to see it in a splodeydope, but the subtler form of life-hater is much more insidious, because it pretends to be interested in living. Its interest only extends to getting back at the hateful world of its delusions, however. This is the one who, without other outlets to do harm (like a column or book), take a gun to the top of a tower and start shooting (a version of splodeydoping that better suits the America psyche).
At least the suicide bomber is likely to be a toxic mixture of a doped up, ignorant cipher, who has spent a life steeped in hate and frustrated entitlement, and a religious fanatic who has convinced himself that he dies for the glory of Allah. What the hell excuse does Ant and this Condell person have? The glory they offer the lives of thousands on their altar of peace is a perverted perception that insures further death and destruction. I’ve ceased to believe that this is an innocent position.
I am absolutely speechless. About all I can come up with is that should Mr. Condell’s chosen side win (and believe me, the issue sure sounds like it is in doubt), he won’t be able to spout this or any other drivel because his head will be removed from his body by his new comrades in arms.
(starts drinking, heavily)
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 22 at 03:17 PM • permalinkMental Floss, I gave up trying to vomit up the revulsion that envelopes and suffocates the soul when it comes into contact with evil. Why should I give evil that much power over me?
Look at it. What does it consist of? Evil is a parasite that lives off of misery and destruction like maggots on a rotting corpse. I’m not about to spend the days and hours of my life thinking about parasites; there is too much to love about being alive on this good earth to waste one second more than is absolutely necessary to exterminate the maggots.
One of the things I like about coming here is that there is a sense of life here that allows one to put evil in its place and laugh at it. It renews my soul to come here.
(Oh, hell. Addumpo will come here and accuse me of cult worship or something. Well, raise a pint to the cult and may we all live long and prosper!)
saltydog
I truly see what you are saying, let me do the spewing.
To the filthy bastards that sullied Sgt. Leonid Milkin and murdered family, that may lurk here.
There are no words except, YOU are filth among us, whether here in the States, or those that think that way elsewhere, there is NO use for YOU bastards to exist, emitting carbon into the atmosphere. The Phelps family, included.
What a f*****g moron!!!
Just another pampered western prick talking all tough to impress his stupid lefty asshole mates,it just goes to prove that wealth, health and peace realy can fuck your brains, these dickheads have had it too good for too long, to the point that they are no longer capable of any kind of rational thought, i realy hope he gets to meet the people of his wet dreams.I won’t put a nickel for Condell’s one-way ticket—the bastard is full of it, and would just spend the money on beer. But if he does walk the walk, I will tell our troops to be sure to aim between Condell’s eyes. Or some other lethal portion of his anatomy.
I will be sending a check to the memorial fund, though. I used to be in the Washington Army National Guard, and I have quite a few friends there. SGT Milkin deserves far better than that.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 22 at 04:02 PM • permalink“Pacifist” turns out to be an America-hating, Israel-hating, Western civilization-hating nutcase and traitor…well, admitting to your problem is the first step on the road to help, I suppose.
And Jeff’s idea about a bullet between Condell’s eyes sounds like just what the doctor ordered. Glenn, you wanna be a participant for the other side? That can surely be arranged.
I wish this moonbat would sign up. I am amazed this idiot. Amazed!
Posted by sticksandstones on 2006 07 22 at 05:05 PM • permalinkCondell doesn’t need to go to Lebonon or elsewhere to fight agains the USA, Israel or his own country. He’s doing very well at home, along with the others of the cowardly left.
As for the monstrous crime, too weak is any expression of sympathy and grief in the face of it. We can only pray that the Master of the Universe will give relief to the poor souls ripped from life by a monster and to the dear soldier. As for (in the words of others) the slime sucking, slack-jawed, drooling, underevolved, web-footed, sibling-parented cretins who find pleasure in this crime, the rot in their guts and the worms that slither around in their brains will give them screaming pain as they crawl their way through life.It was actually physically and psychically hard to read the horrid leftwing spew on that comment site. I shook my head the whole time I was reading, unable to formulate any sensible reply in my mind. The vitriol was so thick I felt as though it was pouring over me. Stuff like that really affects me much more than I ever told myself. I hate reading it. If worse turns up somewhere, I am sure I will leave it where it is. I am more of a wimp than I care to admit. I often do not read websites that Tim puts up to illustrate some mad screed by some lunatic moonbat. I rely more on the excerpts on this website (though today I went and read the comments…thank God I did because most of them were the opposite of the disgusting lefty attacks that were pulled out). I get a terrible feeling of anger and resentment when I read that stuff. Basically, I’m a coward. Strangely, it doesn’t make me feel any better for having admitted it.
if there were any way to fight AGAINST them, I would willingly do so.
Does that sound like a threat to anyone else? I think it does.
Should I call the cops or the terrorist hotline.
Hmm, while I’m at it perhaps the University of Sydney - because if he is the ‘go to’ guy for exclusions and examinations how objectively could he do his job if confronted with someone who disagrees with his point of view or was an American or an Israeli?
Also, doesn’t that fall under racial vilification and/or workplace discrimination?
—Nora
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 07 22 at 06:36 PM • permalinkOur sometime resident idiot, Adammo, had this to say in response to news report on regional arab jubilation at the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers:
I wonder if any Jews in the ghettos or concentration camps ever lead out a oy, oy oy when they heard of German troops being killed.
Pure filth.
LOve him or hate him, you’ve got to admit Glenn Condell has a great blog.
Posted by Evil Pundit on 2006 07 22 at 07:06 PM • permalinkThis is another stupid bastard, emitting carbon….Everytime you open your mouth, Patrick, you are killing the Earth. I’m going to report you, to another of your kind..Al Gore.
Here on the homefront, syndicated columnist Pat Buchanan has launched a broadside against what he says are “neo cons”—America conservatives who support Israel and are really pushing for a wider war between the United States and Iran.
Writing in a recent column headlined, “This is not our War,” Buchanan bemoaned the violence directed at Lebanon by the Israelis.
Fellow conservative David Horowitz’s online magazine, Frontpagemag.com, has opened up a front against Buchanan, with an article that levels charges of anti-Semitism against Buchanan and other so-called “paleoconservatives” for their condemnation of Israel’s actions in the war.
#31 You’re right EP. Never has a leftie made as much sense.
—Nora
PS - Great use of white space…
Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2006 07 22 at 07:11 PM • permalink#25 Also, doesn’t that fall under racial vilification and/or workplace discrimination?
No, but if he’d just read out some passages from the Koran in Victoria, he’d be chargeable for religious vilification and hate crimes.. unless he converted to Islam, that is.
I hear that Victoria’s lefty rulers are now composing their very own Bill of Rights.. LOL
#29
All Sydney Uni students should become familiar with its anti-Semite in Residence, Professor Evan Jones. His blog is:
http://alertandalarmed.blogspot.comI wonder of Pat Buchanan has noticed his position on Israel and Iraq is the same as the Klan’s and the American Nazi Party? I know the MoveOnBots across the street got really annoyed when I pointed it out to them, but I thought signs reading “No White Man’s War” and “No Blood for Mud People” went very well with “Leaving Iraq Is Victory”...(This week I added “No Blood for Jews” to go with their “Ceasefire Now” signs…)
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 22 at 08:07 PM • permalink#25 Nora; I’d be very surprised if Condell had any real power in relation to who can or can’t sit exams at Sydney Uni. It looks to me like little more than a simple post office box job in uni corporate services.
And while I don’t know for certain about Sydney U, uni coporate services in general tend not to attract or retain people with any ability. The pay is poor and career prospects limited. On the other hand, they are under no particular pressure to perform and that can kid themselves that they are intellectuals by association.
Posted by Consuela Potez on 2006 07 22 at 08:23 PM • permalinkI posted about the Sheikh in another thread. He’s the guy who apparently doesn’t share the Leftfilth’s belief that Israel is acting illegally:
Hey, Ant will be happy to know this (via Best of the Web) - radical muslim cleric Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed, principal lecturer at the London School of Shari’ah before the Brits had enough of him, said back then that in waging jihad, “Muslims are forbidden from killing women, children, the elderly or trees unless killed accidentally and unavoidably because, for example, they are located amongst the enemy.” So Israel is fighting in accordance with mutually-agreed restrictions!
I remember Condell once compared Loewenstein to Jesus and claimed that Loewenstein’s fellow Jews were going to crucify him.
Well I got the the nails covered. Who wants to bring in the cross? And who wants to bring the crown of thorns? I think I need to delegate the tasks. Any volunteers for the cross and thorns?
I cant help wondering how many anti-Israel demonstrators in Australian cities were/are carrying Hezbollah flags. I keenly scanned ABC and SBS footage without result. Maybe the answer is that no Hezbollah flags were carried. Alternatively, the flags are carried but the media is making a studied effort not to capture such normally-newsworthy images. Could local bloggers who happen to be near demos and carrying cameras, maybe plug this (possible) gap in media coverage?
richard mcenroe
I wonder of Pat Buchanan has noticed his position on Israel and Iraq is the same as the Klan’s and the American Nazi Party?
Never could stand Herr Buchanan, to the point that when I watched Crossfire way in the past, even though I didn’t care for the Liberal, I rooted for him.
I know the MoveOnBots across the street got really annoyed when I pointed it out to them
Seems to me, they are on the same side, at this point in time.
This, I don’t like, but fear could happen.
Is Israel losing?
Ralph Peters thinks so. And while this view strikes me as premature, the following I think is true: (1) Israel will lose if it does not push Hezbollah out of southern Lebanon and (2) Israel probably cannot push Hezbollah out of southern Lebanon without a large-scale military ground effort.
More generally, I believe that Israel cannot prevail against its enemies if it is unwilling either to occupy problematic territory such as southern Lebanon or invade it when the lack of an occupation force leads to the kind of trouble we’re seeing now.
UPDATE: Israel has taken control of a village in southern Lebanon which reportedly will enable its troops to overlook Hezbollah command posts in the area. In doing so, Israeli soldiers found a mosque that contained stockpiles of weapons, including rockets.
A message to the Jewish commenters:
I’ve heard decent people say that maybe Jews suffer discrimination sometimes because they “stick together.” My reply was that if I was a member of an ethnic group that has been persecuted, scapegoated and betrayed for thousands of years, I would feel a bit cloistered myself.
It must suck to be a Jew watching the rise of anti-semitism in the West after it looked dead and buried. I can’t speak for everyone here, but you won’t EVER find betrayal coming from this direction.
Maybe you guys could form some sort of Gentile Auxiliary and give us a lapel pin and a secret handshake.
Kidon,
Last time the job was done by Romans. I don’t think we Jews have any expertise in this area if penology. I suggest the traditional Jewish ritual execution of stoning. Since we have not done it in some time (a couple of thousand years or so) we will have to study photographs of the process as done by the real experts, the Muslims.Posted by Michael Lonie on 2006 07 22 at 08:47 PM • permalinkSome good news….
U.S. Speeds Up Bomb Delivery for the Israelis
snippet…
The decision to quickly ship the weapons to Israel was made with relatively little debate within the Bush administration, the officials said. Its disclosure threatens to anger Arab governments and others because of the appearance that the United States is actively aiding the Israeli bombing campaign in a way that could be compared to Iran’s efforts to arm and resupply Hezbollah.
Some bad news…
The new American arms shipment to Israel has not been announced publicly, and the officials who described the administration’s decision to rush the munitions to Israel would discuss it only after being promised anonymity. The officials included employees of two government agencies, and one described the shipment as just one example of a broad array of armaments that the United States has long provided Israel.
The NYT, and its sources leaked, again.
Apologies if this is old news, but in addition to the vague Saudi “disapproval” of “certain groups” and their “adventures”, an actual fatwah was issued:
One of Saudi Arabia’s leading Wahhabi sheiks, Abdullah bin Jabreen has issued a strongly worded religious edict, or fatwa, declaring it unlawful to support, join or pray for Hezbollah, the Shiite militias lobbing missiles into northern Israel.
The day after Hezbollah abducted two Israeli soldiers on July 12, Sheik Hamid al-Ali issued an informal statement titled “The Sharia position on what is going on.” In it, the Kuwaiti based cleric condemned the imperial ambitions of Iran regarding Hezbollah’s cross border raid.The surprising move demonstrates that Sunni Muslim fundamentalists in the Middle East are deeply divided over whether Moslems should support Hezbollah, Iran’s Shiite proxies in the war raging in Lebanon.
[read more at Captain’s Quarters]
Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 07 22 at 08:54 PM • permalinkI’m optimistic for two reasons that Israel is going to demonstrate to the world that non-state actors cannot defeat superior nation-state military powers:
1) Occupation appears to be the achilles heel for nation-state military powers. Under occupation the occupier has no choice but to allow civilians back into the occupied zone. Insurgents easily blend in.
2) The US demonstrated in Fallujah that insurgent strongholds can be defeated if;(a) civilians are warned first to leave, (b) you seal off any approaches for reinforcements.
(c) you engage in search and destroy missions.My hope is that Israel will do this on a much larger scale - moving from town to town.
With their air superiority and Lebanon’s desert landscape (thank God the Mid-East isn’t filled with jungles) Israel will easily be able to control the space between towns.
They probably won’t defeat Hezbollah, but they will significantly weaken it, possibly allowing the Lebanese military to move in.
Dave S., as a “Righteus Person”, you get more than a lapel pin, mate—a tree, a plaque, your name carved in stone, Israeli Citizenship and the eternal gratitude of the Sons of Shem:
Legal Basis
The primary purpose of the law that established Yad Vashem was to create a memorial to commemorate and perpetuate the memory of the six million Jewish victims of the Holocaust. Yet, an additional stipulation in the law required Yad Vashem to honor “the Righteous Among the Nations who risk their lives to save Jews.”
Who is considered a “Righteous Among the Nations?”
Since 1963, a commission, headed by an Israeli Supreme Court justice has been charged with the duty of awarding the title “Righteous among the Nations.”
The commission is guided in its work by certain criteria and meticulously studies all pertinent documentation, including evidence by survivors and other eyewitnesses.
In order to arrive at a fair evaluation of the rescuer’s deeds and motivations, the commission takes into consideration all the circumstances relevant to the rescue story, including the following:
—How the original contact was made between the rescuer and the rescued.
—A description of the aid extended.
—Whether any material compensation was paid in return for the aid, and, if so, in what amount.
—The dangers and risks faced by the rescuer at the time.
—The rescuer’s motivations, in so far as this is ascertainable; e.g., friendship, altruism, religious belief, humanitarian considerations, or others.
—The availability of evidence from the rescued persons (an almost indispensable precondition for the purpose of this program).
—Other relevant data and pertinent documentation that might shed light on the authenticity and uniqueness of the story.
In general, when the data on hand clearly demonstrates that a non-Jewish person risked his (or her) life, freedom, and safety in order to rescue one or several Jews from the threat of death or deportation to death camps without exacting in advance monetary compensation, this qualifies the rescuer for serious consideration to be awarded the “Righteous Among the Nations” title. This applies equally to rescuers who have since passed away.
Awarding the Title
A person recognized as a “Righteous Among the Nations” is awarded a specially minted medal bearing his name, a certificate of honor, and the privilege of his (or her) name being added to those on the Wall of Honor in the Garden of the Righteous at Yad Vashem in Jerusalem. (The last is in lieu of a tree planting, which was discontinued for lack of space.)
The awards are distributed to the rescuers or their next of kin in moving ceremonies in Israel or in their countries of residence through the good offices of Israel’s diplomatic representatives. These ceremonies are attended by local government representatives and are given wide media coverage.
To date, more than 16,000 men and women have been recognized as Righteous Among the Nations [listing by country includes just under 16,000]. This figure includes family members who shared in the rescue of Jews and represents more than 7,500 authenticated rescue stories. Yad Vashem’s policy is to pursue the program for as long as petitions for this title are received and are supported by solid evidence that meets the criteria.
Queries
For the time being, queries regarding the “Righteous Among the Nations” may be handled best by regular mail or fax. Please include your regular mailing address and fax number (if applicable) with your query. Address all correspondence to:
Righteous Among the Nations
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Tel: 972-2-6751-611
Fax: 972-2-6433-511.Posted by MentalFloss on 2006 07 22 at 09:08 PM • permalinkCan’t imagine Condell being such a wimp. Get over there, Glenn! The people need you!
That’s a bit rich coming from Australia’s most prominent chickhawk!
Posted by gustov_deleft on 2006 07 22 at 09:13 PM • permalinktdw77
They probably won’t defeat Hezbollah, but they will significantly weaken it
Therein, lies the problem, NOT it what you stated tdw77, but the Jew Hating Media, will propagandize the story as a loss, for Israel.
War is fought to be won, and decisively. Draws, are for artists.
U.S. recent history shows a lack of belief in the ways of William Tecumseh Sherman, or George S. Patton, or Douglas MacArthur, as well.
But aren’t the pop corn peddlers to blame as well? pop corn protesters
Posted by WeekByWeek on 2006 07 22 at 09:19 PM • permalinkPercypup, I was in Sydney yesterday and it truly was Hezb’allah’s day out.
I didn’t any non-muslim Lebanese among their ranks, nor did I spot many lefty apologists.(ie, virtually bugger all).
As I left the city via bus (trackwork interupted the railway), I’m pretty sure I saw a Hamas flag. I’m double checking now…
I can honestly say, I’d never seen so many bearded jihadi wannabes. It seemed that polite society, ie, everyone, avoided them and their mono-browed ninjas like the plague.Did anyone see CFMEU representative John Robertson, in kefiyah, on Ten’s 5 O’clock news denouncing Israel?
In a long shot of the rally you could see a “your rights at work” truck.
Where do you stand Fat Kim?#55 A possible flaw in your scenario, tdw, is that most of the people in southern lebanon ARE Hezbollah. What you suggest would require a depopulated buffer zone. Most democracies would have no stomach for forced removal of their neighbours.
In the long run, a major solution is greater diversity in the population of southern lebanon, so that Hezbollah would have greatly reduced voting power, influence etc. in the Lebanese Government, allowing it to act against the active terrorists. How you could make that happen, I don’t know, as the neighbours are not likely to be friendly to the christians and druze required for that diversity.I also think a greater O/S aid to lebanon to allow it to provide better services etc. than that that can be provided by Hezbollah (thus diluting local loyalty to Hez) might be a good thing, provided it can be delivered with minimal corruption. it shouldn’t take much, and the lebanese govt. surely deserves a helping hand.
That’s a bit rich coming from Australia’s most prominent chickhawk!
OK, gustov, provide us with a Blair quote that says the same thing as “if there were any way to fight AGAINST [the Islamofascists], I would willingly do so.”
And if you still maintain the “richness” of Tim’s post, then deal with the fact that many of the commenters here served or are serving in Iraq.
#58 El Cid, you make a good point. I watched a CNN journalist yesterday infer that Israel has withdrawn from Lebanon “in defeat” in 2000. The way the terrorists have been able to get their agenda into the MSM consciousness astonishes me:
* The MSM labasts Israel for “occupying” the lands of others.
* When Israel finally relents and decides to give the MSM what they insinuate, the MSM say Israel was defeated!I’ve noticed a characteristic of the MSM that lends itself to exploitation by irrationals. The MSM purports itself to “report the news” and doesn’t “editorialise”, yet in doing so it allows anyone with any view that is “news” to get their grievances on air regardless of how irrational it is.
Let’s take this week’s coverage of the Kovco military tribunal as a case in point. A NSW Police ballistics expert gave logical evidence that the wounds to Pvt Kovco were consistent with what he has seen in suicide victims. Pvt Kovco’s mother (understandably distressed) makes an outburst that “this is keystone cops”.
The media in “reporting the news” gives as much legitimacy to Kovco’s mother’s outburst as it does to the expert’s evidence!
The basic rule of thumb with the MSM therefore appears to be; regardless of how irrational a comment is, if the media reports it, it will always be treated as being legitimate regardless of how illogical, irrational or just plain wrong it is.
Dave S.
OK, gustov, provide us with a Blair quote that says the same thing as “if there were any way to fight AGAINST [the Islamofascists], I would willingly do so.”
The rodent can’t.
And if you still maintain the “richness” of Tim’s post, then deal with the fact that many of the commenters here served or are serving in Iraq.
The rodent, does NOT care.
There are a few things that rodents are wonderful for, though;
Injecting with disease…cut open find why injected rodent died…Inject another one, find out why it died…and the always popular, feeding to snakes.
Seriously, many rodents died to help humanity, key is, they died.
57. Hey, a sighting of the rare yellow striped troll buzzard.
So what"s the solution Gus? Ignore them and they’ll go away? Prostrate your children on the ground and prove to them you mean them no harm? Ask them why they hate you? Look for root causes? If everything Bush and Israel do is wrong with regard to headhackers and school girl killers, pray tell what is right! You sound like a liberal guy, in the US context of the word. Who do you have compassion for?
I don’t know if I’m a chickenhawk or not. Served for 22 years in a fairly dangerous job. Never got shot at. Was not a hero. Served with quite a few though. I’ll be glad to throw down with any college deferment type though if it comes to it. As for your comfortable life where you get to say any inanity that comes into your head with impunity, you’re fucking welcome.
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 22 at 09:49 PM • permalinktdw77
The basic rule of thumb with the MSM therefore appears to be; regardless of how irrational a comment is, if the media reports it, it will always be treated as being legitimate regardless of how illogical, irrational or just plain wrong it is.
You got that right. Definition of irrational: (adj) a. the more absurd, the larger the headline or lead. b. the more the absurdity is repeated, the more it becomes truth. (as they say).
I don’t know about aiding Hezbollah, but I’m all for helping Israel.
Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2006 07 22 at 10:14 PM • permalink[...]chickhawk!
Hahahahaha! Dumbass.
Lesson One: thou shalt not drink and troll.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 07 22 at 10:25 PM • permalinkAggressive USA?
I just saw a repeat of Ray Bradbury’s ‘Fond memories of Cuba’ an SBS [Oz governnment-funded] piece of revealingly disgusting agitprop.Highlights
1. How brave the ‘People of Cuba’ have been ‘standing up to the USA’ for 46 years.
2. A govt employee stooge says he worries that ‘Cuba might fall into the hands of irresponsible people.’
3. All media are govt. A media reporter-friend uses a public phone to call his wife and child [who fled to Maimi] -3 minutes costs him a month’s salary.
3. Heavy irony by an old man who says ‘we get plenty of meat in Cuba’, then ‘I could eat a tiger right now’ and ‘Castro is a God to us!’
Says he can’t afford even public transport.
4. Amnesty is uninterested. It writes of only about ‘200 prisoners, some of conscience’ there, but everyone’s really in this prison, as you can see on Bradbury’s own friendly film.
5. Mild protestors are arrested on camera for using free speech.6. CUBA = total poverty + total repression.
The US could have liberated these people since 1990 in a weekend. You have to wonder why they haven’t, since Castro probably killed JFK in 1963..
The USA, aggressive???
#66, tdw77,
The reason the media calls Israel’s pullout from southern Lebanon a defeat is because it was one. A huge defeat. How did it happen? Israel did everything the world asked it to do. She gave up the knowledge of what 2000 years of persecution had taught and acted on every premise of the Internationalists’ ideas of diplomacy. It has been paying ever since.
The only victories the enemy can muster against the West are those we hand it. We’ve been handing out too damn many of them. We seem to be taking an inordinately long time to figure out that we cannot fight with hand-wringing half-measures. And yes, Sherman, Patton, and McArthur are spinning in their graves wondering if we have lost our ever-lovin’ minds. It is time to stop sacrificing our own on the altar of multicultural feel-good rules of engagement which place anyone’s life ahead of our own people - for whatever reason.
We need to openly fight beside Israel. The war is particularly our own. We are in the forefront of any representation of Western Civilization. We need to stand up and say, with all moral righteousness, that we will not tolerate a murderous Islam any longer. We should stand up and tell the world that we will no longer go along with their suicidal appeasement. If Islam wants to survive, they need to police their own, and give up their delusions about owning the world.
It is ridiculous to think that Israel ought to be responsible alone for taking out Lebanon, Syria, and Iran. It is America that is at war with Iran, and has been since 1979. They have committed so many acts of war against us that to continue to evade that knowledge is criminal.
We are only stretched too thin if we cut out half of our ability to defend ourselves. Unlock the arsenal. Get the job done.
80. Dog, problem is, we have cut half our ability to defend ourselves. A full 49% of us here in the US still think this is just something Bush, Cheney et al got up to distract us from what they percieve as our “domestic problems”. (Those are domestic problems that most people in the 3rd world are dying to be a part of). If we could harness the unity and power of say 70-80% of us, this shit would be over in weeks. Problem is, I’m not sure what it would take to convince some people. Witness all the morons on Kos or the trolls who slime through here every so often and the unbelievable stuff they say. The world is upside down. The people who blow up busses, cut heads off of aid workers, and run planes into buildings have “legitimate grievances”. The people who do something about it have “sinister agendas”. How do you fix that?
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 22 at 11:16 PM • permalinkI don’t know that people have given up so much as acknowledged that the Bush Doctrine wasn’t real. What are those who stood up and cheered at his first SOTUS speech after 9-11 to do when Iran is not just still standing, but waving its finger in our faces with impunity and sneering a new challenge every other day. I don’t know where we will go from here, but I think the old pols would be surprised at the support a presidential candidate would garner by standing up and saying we must take the gloves off and fight to win while we still have the people and treasure to do so.
I would add that you should not give too much weight to noisy moonbats. I don’t think they have as much power as they like to pretend.
Dog, agree about the noisy moonbats, mere pinpricks. Problem is they are channeled by most of the media and almost all of academia. Hell, they by and large are academia. So they own virtually all of the information conduits. Then I start hearing the talking points being mouthed by people I thought knew better. Yes, I have been shocked by the people I have heard repeat moonbat themes, and the only place they could have gotten it is from the media. Don’t get me wrong, I still think the truth will out and good people will ultimately do the right thing, but fewer folks will die unneccesarily if more people “get it” quicker.
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 23 at 12:05 AM • permalink#54
The surprising move demonstrates that Sunni Muslim fundamentalists in the Middle East are deeply divided over whether Moslems should support Hezbollah, Iran’s Shiite proxies in the war raging in Lebanon.
Not that surprising. The Sunnis regard the Shiites as little better than the Jews or Christians. There is a big debate in the Sunni world over whether they should stay right out of this one, hopefully (to them) letting the Infidels and the Shiites kill each other.
Do not mistake their disapproval of Hezbollah for any improvement in their attitudes towards Jews and other non-Muslims. That would be a dangerous mistake.
The New York Times (ugh) has an article here comparing comments in the Islamic Blogsphere. Use Bugmenot.com if you need to register.
Daphne I figure you and I’d take care of him. How can he complain? I’m middle aged fart and you’re a girl - a strapping young mouthbreathing leftard loser surely could be a match (in his bloody dreams).
We use the 5.56mm AUSTEYR F88 (I trained on the 7.62mm L1A1 (FN clone) and still prefer it, but hey, not my decision to go 5.56! Hell, for this ‘tardboy I’ll use my SMLE) and the same NVG/targeting system as your people, but mounted on a picaninny rail.
Hows about we give Glenn the terrorist favourite, the AK-47 (with doubled clips taped together <sounds of mirth> and, I dunno, some 2nd generation Russki NVG, and a tea towel for his little lefty noggin. Plenty of forests about to turn him loose in.
What will you bring to the party?
MarkL
CanberraBlair’s got a big mouth. He happily endorses a war in which other people’s children die, but won’t actually step up to the plate, so there isn’t a passage in which Blair offers to join the war, because like most keyboard warriors, he’s a coward.
It’s hardly trolling to point out the stupid hypocrisy of this post.
Oh, and David S. The fact that some people in this forum are serving officers doesn’t mitigate Tim’s cowardess. In fact it highlights it.
Posted by gustov_deleft on 2006 07 23 at 12:32 AM • permalinkThe people who blow up busses, cut heads off of aid workers, and run planes into buildings have “legitimate grievances”. The people who do something about it have “sinister agendas”.
Vanguard, that would have to be one of the best ‘elevator pitch’ descriptions of the political divide I have ever read.
gustov_deleft has thought processes as poorly developed as his spelling skills.
The fact that someone supports a military action does not mean they must therefore take up arms. Get that through your thick skull, nitwit. The fact that someone says they wish to take up arms, and have all sorts of opportunity to do so, but do not, THAT makes them a loudmouth hypocrite braggart in addition to being, in this instance, morally depraved. The fact that you persist in being unable to discern the essential difference, gustov, even though it has already been explained, makes you a moron.
Posted by Crispytoast on 2006 07 23 at 12:43 AM • permalinkCondell expands on his willingness to fight (please excuse the long post Andrea)-
No, I won’t forgive the long post. I have deleted it. You did not cite your source, so I have no idea where you lifted it from. As well, I had to go over to Loewenstein’s disgusting blog in search of it, thinking maybe it was there, and it wasn’t, but now I have a bad taste in my mouth. One more thing: it would not be fair to all the other posters whose improperly quoted comments I have deleted to leave yours. If you want to quote from this bastard, go ahead, but please provide the source, and please EXCERPTS ONLY. You know what sue-happy freaks these people are, don’t give them an opportunity. The Management.Another folk once used this same rhetoric. One of thier “manifesto"s was Protocols of the Elders of Zion and, of course they also had Mein Kampf to snuggle up with in front of the fireplace on a cold rainy night.
# 88 MarkL
The F-88 Steyr would be my standard weapon of choice, with the FN Five-Seven pistol as a sidearm (it fires a special type of round that penetrates body armour like a knife through warm butter).
A M40A1 7.62mm bolt action sniper rifle for long range work and the old reliable ‘Mah-Deuce” M-2 .50 calibre heavy machine gun for defending my position. And maybe an MAG-58 GPMG for a little mobile fire support.
With this sort of hardware I’m sure a girl like me could take a lefty wimp like Condell. I reckon we should give him to the boys to practice their POW training. After all—he has declared himself to be Australia’s enemy. The chickenhawk wants to fight us. Bring it on.
Hey, gustov zoloft, is the word “cowardess” meant to be the feminine form of “coward?” I’m lost. Furthermore, very few leaders of countries have children of military service age. It just isn’t a job requirement, and furthermore that would require a very narrow age window for the candidates. If each State had mandatory service requirements for all citizens, then maybe you would be closer. You might try ancient Athens or Sparta for that, or modern-day Israel. Would you prefer that for your own country?
Hey Mark L and Daphne, can I join in the hunting party?
I will just bring the trusty 12gauge and a couple of OO’s, I would like to get up close and personal with that numpty Condell.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 07 23 at 02:21 AM • permalinkPedro the Ignorant
Just be careful if they start playing banjos and talking about pigs.
Why else do you think Margo is like she is, no-one comes back from a “hunt” with them the same…..Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 23 at 02:35 AM • permalink#97 Tom Hayden has just come out in Counterpunch to decry his own ‘capture’ by the Israeli lobby over the years
Tom Hayden is a 70s moonbat. Tom said about Cuba [on Bradbury’s film #79 above] that he fears the Cuban people will soon be subverted by tourists and hotels, bringing in outside ideas about the modern world’s wealth and life.
The absolute hypocrite!
This guy would just love North Korea too, another time-warp ‘socialist’ prison he’s spent his life promoting.NOW I am getting peeved. You see, I knew and interviewed some gentlemen who bloody well fought in the International Brigades in Spain.
For this needle-dicked whining latte-sipping leftist to indirectly compare himself to those men is both disgusting and hilarious:
’...am thinking more of the Spanish Civil War where foreign anti-fascists tried to assist local antifascists in their battle to stop France from installing a military dictatorship. It didn’t work, but it was a noble cause and even the anonymouse Zionist blowflies in here would I’m sure rather be aligned with the Orwells than the Francos (at least publicly)’Ye Gods. To a man, the three I interviewed loathed and despised ‘yellow gutted soft left posers’ like this. Yes, it is a quote.
Daphne, I like your selection, especially the M40A1. I have not fired one of those
:(
but I’d like to! One of the bad things about getting middle-aged is that the 100m groups start to spread. I think they catch it from the waistline. THat’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
MarkL
CanberraI am flabbergasted to see those banners in that Sydney march graphically equating the Star of David to a Nazi swastika. Saying that Zionists are Nazis is uncomprehendingly stupid, but it’s not anti-semitism. However, a Star of David is a symbol of Judaism as a whole. Declaring that Judaism is the same as Nazism is blatantly anti-semitic. According to that banner, Noam Chomsky and Antony Loewenstein are comparable to Nazis. A new moral and intellectual low for the Australian anti-war crowd.
Posted by James Waterton on 2006 07 23 at 03:44 AM • permalinkFolks, gusty is spewing forth with the chickenhawk crap. That’s a stupid argument, and s/he knows it. Gusty’s desire is to divert the thread away from Condell’s idiocy.
Which ain’t working, gusty. BUAWAHAHAHAHA!!
Condell pines to “...fight AGAINST them…”, but probably lacks the gonads to actually do so*. He supports Hezbollah in this war, but has never served. This in spite of children dying.
Therefore, by gusty’s line of reasoning, Condell is a chickenhawk. Unless Condell transports his sorry ass to the Middle East, and picks up a rifle on the side of his choosing, that’s all he’ll ever be. Gusty said so!
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*: This is a way of saying that Condell is probably a coward, Gusty. I say “probably” because I really don’t know, no one does until The Moment Of Truth, thus the benefit of the doubt. But Condell is certainly a mixed bag of hot air and shit. Only time will show us Condell’s true nature.
But I stand by my earlier comment: if Condell does take up arms with the terrorists, shoot him on sight.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 07 23 at 03:48 AM • permalinkThe_Real_JeffS - no, I think it would be more humane to offer him the choice of summary execution (the way militaries have - quite legally - dealt with enemy combatants of unidentifiable command since the dawn of war) or an extended holiday in GITMO to sit out the war against Islamofascists. Since GITMO is so awful and illegal in Glenn’s eyes, no doubt he’ll select the legal and conventional quick dispatch.
Posted by James Waterton on 2006 07 23 at 03:57 AM • permalinkMy father was with an advance American column in Germany for the last few weeks of WW2. He was a Spitfire pilot shot down by AA 6 weeks before the war ended. An American column relived the prison in which he was being held and he stayed with them until the war ended. Just outside Munich they came across a concentration camp.His description of the smell, the vermin on the inmates which he still today describes as if they had clothes that moved and their deaths when the young Americans fed them food which their bodies could not cope with have left me with a deep and abiding disgust for people who support terrorists who are no better than the SS. Condell make me want to puke. And what is worse that this excuse for a human being works in a university.
HogesProtesters in Melbourne get the bird, as reported in the Herald-Sun—
A rally protesting Israel’s attacks on Lebanon turned ugly yesterday afternoon.
Demonstrators clashed with a group of pro-Israeli agitators after a fiery 3000-strong protest through the city ended at Federation Square.A scuffle broke out after two men and a woman incited protesters with anti-Arab taunts, witnesses said.
Police had to diffuse the violent outbreak.
Pro-Lebanon protester Rabab Kodsi said her niece, 5, was knocked to the ground in the scuffle.
“They were saying, ‘You Arabs are the terrorists’, they were swearing and sticking their fingers up,” she said.
Oh well, fair enough. Anyway, what kind of tool takes a 5yo to a terrorism rally?
Posted by walterplinge on 2006 07 23 at 04:35 AM • permalinkTom Hayden is a California State senator, I believe. He’s been one forever. He has never risen past state politics because of his far-left, moonbat politics. I have always detested this guy. When he was married to Jane, he cheated on her with her friends (nice friends, eh? Other leftwing hos, of course). This ugly fat Michelin tire boy getting pussy he never dreamed was possible. Then when the poor bitch finally found out, she divorced him and he stuck her with a settlement of 2 million smackers (he had asked for a ton of alimony because he didn’t have a job). Back in the 80’s when that was a lot of money. It was the only time I ever felt sorry for that poor cow. One of the deep uglies got her and then dumped her and she had to pay him off. Wow. Anyway, that told me a lot about who Hayden is, a man without honor or principle.
The left is littered with these kinds of people, yet they hold themselves up as paragons of principle and justice. For other people, that is - the little people. They are too high-minded and live in too rarefied an atmostphere to be troubled themselves, in their personal lives, with these bourgeois principles.
I believe Hayden hold power in that same general “north central” california area that’s known for such things as:
-having towns pass laws forbidding its citizens complying with federal anti terror laws..
-passing laws making it illegal for emergency first responders to display the American flag on their persons or station houses or vehicles immmediatly after 9/11..
-having at least one city council woman make national news for refusing to say the pledge of allegance at the beginning of the first meeting post 9/11 and also demanding that the American flag be removed from the room for the duration of the meetings.In other words, that general area of california that’s recognized for silicone chips, nice wines and needing a heavy dose of torch, pitchfork and angery mob.
NOW I am getting peeved. You see, I knew and interviewed some gentlemen who bloody well fought in the International Brigades in Spain.
It’s also a bit weird for someone like Condell to bring up Orwell and the Spanish Civil War.
That was when Orwell finally woke up to the fact that a significant portion of the “left” were just plain Stalinists, and as much a group of Fascists as the guys they fought against.
Posted by Quentin George on 2006 07 23 at 06:50 AM • permalink#83 paco, thanks for the link. Great information.
Posted by sticksandstones on 2006 07 23 at 07:25 AM • permalinkRe: Condell and those of his ilk…
As if ANY western lefty had the stones to fight against the IDF or the United States military.
Hardy har har…that is amusing.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 07 23 at 07:40 AM • permalinkHear hear, Dave Surls.
Ask Hicksy “the poor little Adelaide based bong smoker” aka the murdering terrorist bastard now locked up in Gitmo, how smart it is to carry a weapon around the US military in a war zone.
Condell, all mouth and trousers, wouldn’t have the balls to risk his hide even as far as the pathetic and useless “Islamic warrior” Mahommed Dawood Hicks.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 07 23 at 07:55 AM • permalinkI consider Glenn Condell, gustov, et al as racists. They should be ashamed and we should ignore them and their morally bankrupt comments.
Posted by wronwright on 2006 07 23 at 08:51 AM • permalinkOld oscar was pretty ahead of his time I think.
“Conscience and cowardice are really the same things. Conscience is the trade-name of the firm. That is all.”
Oscar WildePosted by thefrollickingmole on 2006 07 23 at 10:05 AM • permalinkOld Billy wasn’t too bad at looking ahead either:
“Conscience is but a word that cowards use, devised at first to keep the strong in awe”-Richard III, Act 5, Scene 3
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 07 23 at 10:16 AM • permalinkThanks for those excellent quotes regarding conscience. Useful.
Hayden is director of No More Sweatshops! Yes, Ladies and Gentlemen, that is what Mr. Hayden is doing today. He has left government and is no longer in a position to torture those of us who live in his district in Northern California. Thanks, Tom. Keep working at the grass roots level. That’s where you are needed most.
To paraphrase the Peoples Front of Judaea yet again, Sheikh Omar Bakri Mohammed will not be taking part in any terrorist activities, as he has a Lebanese back.
Posted by Jim Geones on 2006 07 23 at 11:08 AM • permalinkDave S. — Well, if David Duke is teaching Cindy’s followers to shoot, that’s probably what they’re calling it now.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 07 23 at 11:43 AM • permalinkso there isn’t a passage in which Blair offers to join the war, because like most keyboard warriors, he’s a coward.
Excuse me, gusty? When, exactly, are you going to take up arms to defend your precious Scumbollah? Come on, Glenn is willing to serve, he said so. How about you? Surely, you are not just anotherkeyboard warriorcoward?“Hayden is director of No More Sweatshops!”
Full name: “No More Sweatshops. Third World females are better off being prostitutes”
Even when idiots like Hayden try to do good, they get it tragically wrong.
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 23 at 12:31 PM • permalink#132 - but why can’t we just pay those workers in the developing world what we get paid?
/economic illiterate
Posted by James Waterton on 2006 07 23 at 12:48 PM • permalinkTim supports a war
Who started the fucking thing? If you kill and abducting soldiers, and fire missiles into an enemy city, then you’re starting a war. I don’t recall Tim supporting this. The left wants Israel to go to the negotiating table. Make sense of that. Your cities are getting bombed, so you call up the enemy and say “let’s talk. PLEASE! I can’t take this violence any more!”
That’s the left’s solution. As soon as someone attacks you, surrender. Otherwise, you’re supporting war.Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 23 at 01:15 PM • permalink134. “That’s the left’s solution. As soon as someone attacks you, surrender. Otherwise, you’re supporting war.”
Hmmm. I would agree that it’s the left’s solution for the West. When one of their own revered social experiments is involved, the solution is quite different. As evidence for this amazing inference, I would offer the following somewhat warlike international incursions conducted by peaceful agrarian reformers of the left in the recent past:
Cuba in Angola
China in Vietnam
Vietnam in Cambodia
USSR in Afghanistan
Cuba in GrenadaAll under the guise of “Wars of National Liberation”, which is lefty-speak for a legitimate war. The excreble Nation magazine offers glowingly sympathetic advocacy of armed revolutionaries in Central America even today. This is not to mention major armed incursions by every US Democrat administration since Wilson. In short, the left’s “anti-war” bonafides are thin to non-existant.
Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 23 at 01:54 PM • permalinkyou are correct, Vanguard. I guess the rule only applies to Israel.
Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 23 at 02:11 PM • permalink#57 and elsewhere from disgustov of the lunatic fringe uses the old Leftist addled trick of trying to change the subject and capture the post with an idiotic comment. Pussie Cuntdell declared his passionate desire to directly participate in the conflict. He has done nothing to back up his bravado. He brags to assert his"manhood” and hides behind his examinatioin papers. TB never declared his willingness to fight in the war. A commentator has no obligation to pack up for distant lands after making his comments Duh! As for backing a war in which women and children are killed, you DisGustov have been doing so for years in backing and applauding the mass killings of civilians by Islamists, beheadings, suicide bombers, etc., etc., all over the world. (Haven’t heard a word about Dafur (sp?) from you yet. I expect no more from (in the words of another) a gap-toothed, dull-eyed, slack-jawed, drooling, underevolved hypocrite.
oh wait, maybe
Tim supports a war
refers to Iraq. But the American-instigated Iraq war, right or wrong, is over. What’s going on over there now is not America versus Saddam anymore. It’s the American backed Iraq government versus Iran/Syrian funded guerrillas. Different armies, different players: different war. We’ve got to stop treating it like it’s the same thing.
The new poster-boy for the anti-war movement, Lt Watada, is refusing to go to Iraq because Bush lied about the WMD evidence! That’s a stale, irrelevant, three-year old excuse. (nb he ‘educated’ himself on Iraq without reading any neo-con material at all, but that’s another story)Posted by daddy dave on 2006 07 23 at 04:33 PM • permalinkLT Watada,
How’s that “I solemnly swear to support and defend the constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic and to obey the orders of the President and the officers appointed over me” thing coming? Heh. Do write and update us on the “long course” at Leavenworth shit bird.Posted by Vanguard of the Commentariat on 2006 07 23 at 04:56 PM • permalinkI hope that Jews do not believe they are the only ones fighting anti Semitism, including this current evil being spewed from the Arab countries.
I am not Jewish, in fact I was bought up a Catholic. But I fight Jew hatred fiercely because I’ve carefully read history and know we cannot stand by and watch it happen all over again.
I fight it because Catholics—like my ancestors—commited so many attrocities against the Jews and have so much to be sorry for. And because—despite all of this—the Jews have contributed so much greatness to this world.
Jews have a right to live in peace in their own country and I believe I stand for the majority when I say that I would be very pleased to fight for their right to continue doing this.
#143: Count me in on that too, please. Well said, btw.
Also, adding to what daphne said above, I tend to fight against anti-Semitism because that and anti-Americanism tend to flow from the same root source and share the same propagandized imagery and descriptors.
But, if I was to be totally honest, I’d have to admit that I also tend to stand against anti-Semitism because I have a real simple and direct hatred of damn near everything that’s been vomited from the mouths of european “thinkers” and philosophers for the last couple hundred years.
Vanguard (#142) has said it better than I could about Lt (not for long) Watada.
An officer refuses his orders and abandons his troops in time of war because he doesn’t like the location?
Have a few years behind bars to consider the rights and responsibilities of a military commission, you POS.
A nice head tilt over Watada’s cheer squad site at Niklarf’s link.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 07 24 at 04:51 AM • permalink“Lt Watada, is refusing to go to Iraq because…”
...he’s an amoral cowardly piece of crap?
The United States has been waging war against Iraq CONTINUOUSLY since 1990/91, and this dirtbag just happened to realize that our warmaking is “illegal” at the same he recieved his orders to deploy there?
Doubt it.
Just another punk who thought he could cash in, and collect a paycheck from the military, without actually doing the job required.
A dishonorable discharge, lengthy prison sentence, and a huge fine (so we can get back all the money this punk stole from us every time he cashed a paycheck) ought to correct matters.
Plus he ought to stripped of his American citizenship and all the rights and privileges that come with it…permanently.
Posted by Dave Surls on 2006 07 24 at 02:15 PM • permalinkGlen condell sounds like he’d make a hell of soldier under the command of his swiftboat hero kerry.They could single handily storm the beaches of Israel like samir cuntar freedom fighter and fellow traveller,then Israeli soldiers and real heroes could nail him like the dog he is.
P.s no offense to man best friend.Posted by wombatant63 on 2006 07 24 at 06:50 PM • permalink#148 Dave Surls:
In reading up on this POS’s back story, family etc, it might be brought to light that he “joined up” and signed the contract, just to exactly what he’s doing now.Of course, I’m guessing but I do so enjoy thinking the worst when it comes to the motivations of scum, filth and other forms of degenerate.
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I’m sure American and Israeli soldiers would willingly wait for the brave Mr. Condell to take his place in the ranks of the enemy… and then take appropriate action concerning his presence there. However, I truly doubt it will be necessary. Talking the talk vs walking the walk, and all that.