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ABC reports John Howard has phoned Kevin Rudd to concede defeat. Current predicted Labor margin: 24 seats. Nick Minchin says result is “tragic for us on the conservative side of politics”. Julia Gillard says Howard will be remembered with “respect and affection”.

UPDATE. Jeff Kennett: “Not only are the Democrats gone, but the Greens achieved nothing, after all that effort ...” Not entirely - they did hand over the usual bunch of preferences to their ALP pals. Overall Green vote up only 0.6% on 2004, despite big early numbers.

UPDATE II. Pronounced by Julia Gillard, “ably” contains three syllables. Peter Costello is claiming that, just like Liberal leadership rival Malcolm Turnbull, he’ll achieve an improved vote - against massive national trends.

UPDATE III. John Howard arrives at the Wentworth Hotel to concede.

UPDATE IV. Howard congratulates Rudd on “very emphatic victory”. Says it has been a privilege to be Prime Minister of “this very beautiful country ... the Australian people are the greatest people on earth, and this is the greatest country on earth.” He’s leaving on some perfect notes. Australia will miss this bloke more than it knows. Howard also, as did Mal Brough, urges that Labor support ongoing intervention in wretched Aboriginal areas. Thanks staff for putting up with a “sometimes cantankerous” Prime Minister during the past few months. Lots of smiles. Final words as PM: “I wish the government elected by the people of Australia the very best in the years ahead.” Nick Minchin describes it as “a great speech from a remarkable man.”

UPDATE V. Kevin Rudd advances on the stage in Queensland. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT MUSIC?

UPDATE VI. Rudd: “Today Australia has looked to the future ... we as a nation will move forward ... we will write a new page in our nation’s history.” Promises to “always govern in the national interest”, which is a relief. Vows to “forge consensus” on issues of common interest. Veers towards template campaign speech at midpoint. Thanks “life partner” Therese.

Audience enthusiasm seemed to trail off a few times, particularly when Rudd mentioned “the worst drought Australia has ever suffered” (crowd applauded, hesitantly) and when he described the suffering of a long-time staffer: “He’s had to put up with me for FIVE YEARS!” (crowd applauded, nervously). Phrase “You know what?” used three times. “Working families” once.

Posted by Tim B. on 11/24/2007 at 07:08 AM
  1. Dear Kevin Rudd: please don’t screw up my country TOO quickly. I want to enjoy living in it for another couple of years while it’s still good. Thanks, Nicholas.

    Posted by Nicholas on 2007 11 24 at 07:17 AM • permalink

  2. Julia Gillard says Howard will be remembered with “respect and affection”.

    This has yet to be determined…not by the right minded, but by the small minded, like yourself and your ilk.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 11 24 at 07:18 AM • permalink

  3. Would I be right in thinking it is only a 5% swing back into power?

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 24 at 07:20 AM • permalink

  4. or is 5% the interest rate rises that will get us back into power?

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 24 at 07:21 AM • permalink

  5. Good Day or evening Aussies of the right mind.

    The friends that you have had here in the States, remain your friends now.

    As I mentioned in an earlier thread…Stupidity falls under its own weight. Just stand away and let it happen.

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 11 24 at 07:22 AM • permalink

  6. Since when were these bastards leftists?

    Posted by Habib on 2007 11 24 at 07:22 AM • permalink

  7. Half an hour ago I heard Marius Benson on News Radio interviewing Alexander Downer. MB seemed fixated on the idea that Mr Downer would toss away his retained seat and quit politics because Downer wouldn’t want to be back in Opposition.
    Downer handled him expertly, of course, but the repeated questions along those lines said something about Mr Benson’s way of thinking.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 24 at 07:25 AM • permalink

  8. #5 El Cid : A Labour government doesn’t make me concerned that our friends will abandon us.. although it does make me a little concerned that we will abandon our friends.

    I don’t think we will, but it’s hard to be sure. Fingers crossed they won’t do anything too crazy!

    Posted by Nicholas on 2007 11 24 at 07:26 AM • permalink

  9. Once again the so-called Green coming-of-age has proved to be a damp squib. And Kerry Nettle’s gone. Yay.

    The Greens = Biggest bunch of political poseurs since the Australia Party.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:27 AM • permalink

  10. And Cid, thanks for the good wishes.
    There’s a couple of new trolls running loose around here apparently of the mind that we will all curl up and die here at Tim’s site. What a waste that would be of all the good material that Kev & Co are going to provide.

    Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 11 24 at 07:27 AM • permalink

  11. I don’t think we will, but it’s hard to be sure. Fingers crossed they won’t do anything too crazy!

    Don’t you worry, those yanks will soon elect Hillary! and Kevin will have found his soul mate.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:27 AM • permalink

  12. I think I shall enjoy being a supporter of the Opposition for a while. Having observed the Left over these last years, there are some things I’ve sworn that as an Opposition Supporter I will never do. They include the following:

    - say ‘I’ve lost faith in the Australian voters’

    - refer to the Prime Minister as anything other than ‘the Prime Minister’, ‘Kevin Rudd’, or ‘Mr Rudd’. I will not call him a worm, a c***, a f***wit, or anything else that requires substituting stars for alphabet characters

    - pledge to move to another country, and then not do it

    Posted by Apple77 on 2007 11 24 at 07:28 AM • permalink

  13. Bolta reckons Turnbull will be Opposition Leader. Surely Costello would be a more likely choice - with Turnbull in charge of the Shadow Treasury?

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 11 24 at 07:31 AM • permalink

  14. Swinish

    There’s a couple of new trolls running loose around here apparently of the mind that we will all curl up and die here at Tim’s site.

    Good friend, then those of that mind, need a new one..

    Now off, before the threesome that are my partners in committing golf, club me with sand wedges.

    Wouldn’t mind if ‘they’ were pastrami on rye, but they are not…:).

    Posted by El Cid on 2007 11 24 at 07:33 AM • permalink

  15. #12 That’s funny Apple!!! I’m now looking forward to using those terms!

    Posted by Ash_ on 2007 11 24 at 07:33 AM • permalink

  16. I think Bolt is of the opinion Costello has no bottle for the leadership - he deferred to Downer, he deferred to Howard, then he wouldn’t challenge.

    Still, Costello/Turnbull is quite plausible, particularly with the good showing he had in Wentworth.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:33 AM • permalink

  17. Good to see “man of integrity” Brown hinting heavily that Kevni will reverse the decision on the Tasmanian pulp mill despite the explicit commitment before the election to support the project - let the flipping begin !!

    Posted by letylore on 2007 11 24 at 07:34 AM • permalink

  18. Kevin Rudd wouldn’t lie to me!!!11

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:36 AM • permalink

  19. O/T
    Ash_:

    That was nice what you said a few days ago. Sorry I didn’t say something then in reply. When I’m in fight mode all I see is the fight, everything else tends to be excluded. Bad habit.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 11 24 at 07:39 AM • permalink

  20. Good news for New Zealand.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2007 11 24 at 07:40 AM • permalink

  21. John Howard doesn’t disappoint - as gracious a concession speech as I expected. A real statesman.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 07:42 AM • permalink

  22. Interesting….Coalition still holds 34 seats in the Senate. Labor will need Greens + Family First + Anti-Pokies guy to pass legislation.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:44 AM • permalink

  23. Oh wait, still 6 undecided. Scratch that.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:45 AM • permalink

  24. #22 - And the Senate won’t change until next year so the Coalition still has complete control until then.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 11 24 at 07:45 AM • permalink

  25. Let to rot begin. Being economically protected in Canberra, watching the Australian economy nosedive will be like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I hope none of the great people in this blog become casualties of the next few years of potential green-socialist mismanagement.
    Entertainment for the future: Counting Rudd’s backflips, watching the green and union factions tear each other apart, blogging leftards back into submission (this job starts now).

    Posted by CanberraNeoCon on 2007 11 24 at 07:46 AM • permalink

  26. Just got home from the Polls.

    Interesting times ahead.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 07:46 AM • permalink

  27. Just watching Howard’s defeat speech.

    What a wonderful speech. He’s keeping it together much better than I am! I shed a tear when Janette took his hand.

    Posted by Apple77 on 2007 11 24 at 07:48 AM • permalink

  28. #12,

    Well said.

    I give this lot 1 term, probably not 2. Oh well, Labor Government’s are what makes us appreciate conservative ones more.

    Posted by Nic on 2007 11 24 at 07:49 AM • permalink

  29. Yep, a great speech.

    Posted by Simon Darkshade on 2007 11 24 at 07:49 AM • permalink

  30. Link to concession speech?

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:49 AM • permalink

  31. Farewell Mr John Howard and may God smile on your future endeavours.  Australians will miss your wise leadership.

    Posted by Crossie on 2007 11 24 at 07:50 AM • permalink

  32. Apple 77 - Howard is a gem. There’s more class in his little finger than the entire weight of any other politician around.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 07:50 AM • permalink

  33. Just where the hell is this man when you really need him?

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 24 at 07:51 AM • permalink

  34. Hemingway described Courage as “grace, under pressure”.

    Listening to John Howard’s speech tonight, was the epitome of the word, Courage.

    A man of unfailing courage, grace and good manners. A true gentleman.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 07:53 AM • permalink

  35. The Rudder and the ALP have displayed remarkable PR skills in first presenting themselves as a viable alternative, and secondly, winning a thumping majority.

    I just bloody hope they show as much skill in governing the country.

    Posted by TimT on 2007 11 24 at 07:53 AM • permalink

  36. Let’s wait till we get another criminally incompetent ALP government, rather than one with just the potential to be incompetent.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 07:53 AM • permalink

  37. Howard is exiting strong, not a beaten man. He has set a high standard for those who follow. Will our media give the next government the same contentious treatment? I think not. We will see.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 07:54 AM • permalink

  38. Let’s hope we don’t get another criminally incompetent ALP government!

    Posted by TimT on 2007 11 24 at 07:55 AM • permalink

  39. AAAAAAAAARCHHHHHHHH??

    Or maybe it won’t be reallly bad.

    I think it will be.

    Posted by Habib on 2007 11 24 at 07:55 AM • permalink

  40. Pogria, I’ve been a fan of Howard’s since his previous concession speech in the 1980s. I was absolutely stunned by his good grace and decency. Then Hawke or was it Keating came on and crowed and skited like a jackass. The contrast could have been greater.

    And now, being unable to bear such a contrast again, we’ve switched channels to The Empire Strikes Back…

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 07:58 AM • permalink

  41. Well, if they do half the things they’ve promised to do, I think we’re in trouble.

    Luckily, though, politicians rarely keep promises. Howard was the exception rather than the rule.

    Posted by Nicholas on 2007 11 24 at 07:59 AM • permalink

  42. PIMF - ‘couldn’t’ have been greater…

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 07:59 AM • permalink

  43. Habib - sorry to hear about your new rules of engagement (whatever they may be!).

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 07:59 AM • permalink

  44. Wonderful speech by Australia’s best Prime Minister.
    I can’t wait for Costello to turn Question Time into the new blood sport.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:00 AM • permalink

  45. Farewell to Australia’s best PM.

    Posted by Evil Pundit on 2007 11 24 at 08:00 AM • permalink

  46. That was without doubt the best concession speech I have ever heard.  Howard is certainly a gem and it was deeply saddening to see Channel 7 flashing up “The Howard era is over”.

    Too right, Howard, we’ve given Labor a country in it’s very prime, the greatest nation and people on earth.  If there is any justice on earth, Howard will go down as our greatest Prime Minister, Curtin included.

    Did anyone else think of Gettysburg with Lee’s speech to the remnants of Pickett’s Division when they watched this concession speech?

    Posted by Nathan_C on 2007 11 24 at 08:00 AM • permalink

  47. 33 - I was thinking the same thing. Lightning probably won’t strike twice, but ‘tis a bemusing image to contemplate.

    Posted by Simon Darkshade on 2007 11 24 at 08:02 AM • permalink

  48. # 46 I am not familiar with that one, but the speech by the German officer at the end of Band of Brothers comes to mind.

    Posted by surfmaster on 2007 11 24 at 08:02 AM • permalink

  49. I’m with you lotocoti.

    I’m sooooo looking forward to seeing Costello unleashed.

    To Costello, Australia’s PM 2011.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:02 AM • permalink

  50. #12
    &
    I don’t know anyone who voted for the ALP. It must have been set up…

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 08:02 AM • permalink

  51. Update IV

    Well, he’s right. And he’s had quite a bit to do with it.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 08:03 AM • permalink

  52. Here comes Kevin.

    This should be interesting

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:04 AM • permalink

  53. What’s with the porno music at Rudd’s speech?

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 11 24 at 08:06 AM • permalink

  54. #40 Nick,

    uncommon good grace. something we used to read about in school.

    Definitely not taught these days.

    Empire will strike back in 2010!

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 08:06 AM • permalink

  55. #53 Well, it’s because we’re screwed.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:07 AM • permalink

  56. Bow-chicka-bow….

    To all those who said the strip club wasn’t a meaningful sign….

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:07 AM • permalink

  57. #52
    As in rigid sigmoidoscopy interesting.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:07 AM • permalink

  58. Pretty muted applause for the idea of wishing Howard and Family all the best for the future, when Rudd spoke.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:08 AM • permalink

  59. “Australia, it’s time to get it on…and did I mention my opposition to contraception? Bow chicka wow!”

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:08 AM • permalink

  60. If working families get a run, I’m goin jihad.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:09 AM • permalink

  61. #49 Nora,

    I raise my glass in anticipation.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 08:10 AM • permalink

  62. “I will be all things to all people”.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:10 AM • permalink

  63. So Kevin is going to be a Prime Minister for all Australians.

    What about those of us who don’t want him and his socialism?

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:10 AM • permalink

  64. Hell of a dignified exit speech by Howard, no matter what your political bias was..he was very gracious in defeat.

    Posted by Anthony_ on 2007 11 24 at 08:11 AM • permalink

  65. Enough with the bullet points already.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:11 AM • permalink

  66. WHAT THE HELL IS THAT MUSIC?

    That’s exactly what I was thinking!!!

    Posted by Brian on 2007 11 24 at 08:11 AM • permalink

  67. Kevni’s speech?

    He’s said that, for all those who voted for him, he’ll be a man for every australian, or words to that effect.
    Sheesh.
    What does he mean? Only saying to the people who voted for him?

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 08:12 AM • permalink

  68. Gotta love the Labor faithful.  They’ll ‘woo’ at everything.  Even when he talked about the drought, there was a ‘wooo’ and screaming and clapping. Add the porno music at the start, and we’ve got ourselves a winning show.

    Posted by Heminator on 2007 11 24 at 08:12 AM • permalink

  69. “My door is always open. That’s also been stolen, I’d like it back.”

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:12 AM • permalink

  70. Its good in a way, because now that everyone knows he is a liar, everything he says will be tainted.

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 11 24 at 08:12 AM • permalink

  71. “Wooo!”

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:13 AM • permalink

  72. “It’s time for a new page to be written in Australian History”.
    Bring back the black armband!

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:13 AM • permalink

  73. Kevin will do this, he will do that, he will always have an open door.

    “I want to put aside the old battles of the past, the old battle between business and unions,... between federal and state….”

    He’s wanting a revolution methinks.

    He’s also not saying anything much about the Party.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:13 AM • permalink

  74. “It’s Time we had an education system!”

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  75. Great speech from JWH.  He was one of the best.

    Posted by 8_8_8 on 2007 11 24 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  76. John Howard - best ever PM. In the end the people of Australia weren’t worthy of him.

    Posted by Ubique on 2007 11 24 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  77. Any takers on how long it will be before the new Federal Government is in crisis?

    I’m thinking when they hand out portfolios.

    —Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:14 AM • permalink

  78. LOL He wants the Great Australian Fair Go to have a future and not just a past.

    And he wants to keep the economy working so it delivers to Working Families (TM)

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:15 AM • permalink

  79. In the end the people of Australia weren’t worthy of him.

    WTF?

    Posted by TimT on 2007 11 24 at 08:15 AM • permalink

  80. “Since my back door is always open (also stolen), the Great Australian Fair Go just came back in.”

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:15 AM • permalink

  81. Crap but I wish 10 would get back to The Empire Strikes Back. Kevni has the acting talent of a porn star too.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:16 AM • permalink

  82. “Hi USA! Love ya. Ignore my friends!”

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:17 AM • permalink

  83. Okay, so he’s finally getting around to saying something about the ALP.

    How long did that take>?

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:17 AM • permalink

  84. Don’t thank me, mate.  I put you next to last (there was a greens candidate).

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:18 AM • permalink

  85. Kruddy’s new theme song.
    you may have to substitute a few words, but the essence is the same.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 08:18 AM • permalink

  86. The PM of Australia is a Weasel.

    Arrgh.

    Interesting times.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 08:19 AM • permalink

  87. ‘supported by the great Australia trade union movement’... man but it didn’t take long for the mask to come off.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:19 AM • permalink

  88. I don’t know about you guys, but when I’m at a great party I always go straight to the computer and comment on blogs.

    Rather than, you know, socializing.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  89. “I want to thank the Unions for their millions spent on scaring people unaffected by Work Choices, and our Media Friends for their relentless pursuits, and Bernie for his unmasking of big bad business.”

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  90. Bernie Banton?

    He’s talking about Bernie Banton. Why does that make me cranky?

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  91. And now we’re sucking up to the unions.

    Doesn’t exactly inspire confidence here in Bogan Central.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  92. #73
    “I want to put aside the old battles of the past, the old battle between business and unions,... between federal and state….”

    I can just see the thought bubble ‘so if you would all just roll over for me now…’

    Posted by Nathan_C on 2007 11 24 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  93. For those commentators in the earlier thread that were taking comfort in the fact that they were commonwealth public servants,  I would counsel you to speak to anyone who was in the Qld public service when ruddy came in as head of cabinet.  I was. To quote Rowan Atkinson “Bend over Blackadder it’s poker time”

    Posted by Just Another Bloody Lawyer on 2007 11 24 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  94. Liberal sycophants…

    Show half the humility in defeat that Howard has just demonstrated.

    You may not have voted for Rudd but a majority of Australians have done so. Respect that and let it play out.

    Labor has a mandate to rule for 3 years. Like it or lump it…but whatever you please stop your whining.

    And for the record I am a swinging voter. I voted for Howard in 1996. I am considering voting Liberal in the next NSW state election,

    Posted by agile on 2007 11 24 at 08:20 AM • permalink

  95. #82:

    Hi USA! Love ya. Ignore my friends!

    Hi Blogstrop! Love ya too. We always do!

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 11 24 at 08:21 AM • permalink

  96. “Julia, you’re great. Please don’t you and your loopy left mates lynch me after the honeymoon period.”

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:21 AM • permalink

  97. Jesus. What a suck up, turd.  God help us.
    (note: this post refers to to KR as does my previous, in case you were wondering)

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 11 24 at 08:21 AM • permalink

  98. People just came to believe that the economic good times were the normal state of affairs. Tomorrow their education will begin.

    Posted by Harry Buttle on 2007 11 24 at 08:21 AM • permalink

  99. Well, the next 3 years should be entertaining.

    Posted by Zoe Brain on 2007 11 24 at 08:21 AM • permalink

  100. #90

    Well, its just good manners to ignore everyone at the party, right?

    Posted by Nathan_C on 2007 11 24 at 08:23 AM • permalink

  101. Like it or lump it…but whatever you please stop your whining.

    What? Since when are we not allowed to complain about our elected leaders? They must be praised without question? Since when?

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:23 AM • permalink

  102. Re:#68,

    I think you nailed it. It did sound like porno music!

    I’m still laughing after reading your comment :-)

    Posted by Brian on 2007 11 24 at 08:23 AM • permalink

  103. my friends in america. do not foresake us =. we remain your freind. we will nor betray you. call soon.

    Posted by hooligan on 2007 11 24 at 08:23 AM • permalink

  104. Oh and for me, the Bar believes that we are last into a recession and first out.  Now why did that come to mind tonight?

    Posted by Just Another Bloody Lawyer on 2007 11 24 at 08:24 AM • permalink

  105. Just Another Bloody Lawyer - too right. I was there too.

    —Nick

    Life partner? ‘And y’know something? She’s had a tough year as well!’ More than a year.

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:24 AM • permalink

  106. #72, blogstrop, been there, seen that.  In 1988 when Nick Greiner won the NSW state election I came to work on Monday morning to see some staff wearing black armbands.  The left side of politics never holds back.

    Posted by Crossie on 2007 11 24 at 08:24 AM • permalink

  107. 103 - Yes you have a right to complain. However at least wait until he has a chance to DO something before you complain.

    Posted by agile on 2007 11 24 at 08:25 AM • permalink

  108. Notice how Rudd has this whole speech written down. Refers to his notes constantly. Fair enough. But Howard had no notes. Hadn’t noticed that before. Considering the amount of waffle Rudd drivels I guess he needs it written down. Who’d remember that much crap.

    Posted by jon crow on 2007 11 24 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  109. #96 - agile - not a good liar.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  110. The disgusting thing is that no fewer than five seats are recording swings in excess of ten percent.  There were losses in there that should never have ended up in that category.

    Still, looks like the Lib’s actually came ahead in the West.  Its just all those east siders who are the problem.  Too bloody many of them.

    Posted by Nathan_C on 2007 11 24 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  111. #96 agile, after all the bile that the lefties have been dumping on John Howard and co for the last umpteen years, and especially the last couple of weeks, I think we’re allowed to speak freely.

    We are still in a free country, aren’t we?

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  112. re 96.

    “Liberal sycophants…

    Show half the humility in defeat that Howard has just demonstrated.

    You may not have voted for Rudd but a majority of Australians have done so. Respect that and let it play out. “


    FMD, that was quick! we ‘liberal sycophants’ put up with leftist whining about everything in the world being Howards fault for 11 years straight. get used to it sister, we’ve bought and paid for the right to return the favour.

    Posted by Harry Buttle on 2007 11 24 at 08:26 AM • permalink

  113. hooligan:

    Politically speaking, the French are still our friends.

    Y’all aint got a dang thing to worry about on that issue. I don’t think you have it in you, in even the most radicalized leftardic segments, to burn us as often as the French like to.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 11 24 at 08:27 AM • permalink

  114. This has been on of the great frustrations at work.  When he goes off script he does okay.
    But the relentless on-message bit makes him sound like a sock puppet.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:27 AM • permalink

  115. 111 - Believe what you want.

    I am left of centre but not a rusted on Labor supporter.

    I weigh up who I think the better candidate and party is and then vote.

    Posted by agile on 2007 11 24 at 08:27 AM • permalink

  116. People have genuine concerns on how he is going to govern, with question marks over things like union influence. I don’t see how being troubled by such things is “denying the will of the people”. Yes, the ALP won convincingly. No one is denying that. There’s a lot of people here who didn’t vote for him, however, so there’s no surprise there are elements of Rudd, the ALP or its platform not to their liking. I see no reason why they can’t air them without getting lectured and pretty much told that they are “ungracious” for airing their opinion.

    Pull your head in, agile.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:28 AM • permalink

  117. “and you know something”, this guy bloody annoys me already. Three more years of this drivel?? God help us. Please John all is forgiven come backkkkkkkkk…........

    Posted by jon crow on 2007 11 24 at 08:28 AM • permalink

  118. So, did Gillard lap dance Rudd when the Bow-chicka-bow porn music was playing?

    Arrggh, need mental bleach.

    Posted by Mike_W on 2007 11 24 at 08:29 AM • permalink

  119. #109

    FUCK OFF BUM BOY

    you join our blog today, and proceed to tell us how to comport ourselves.

    Take your dribbling, slack arsehole back to the Wall and earn the right to talk to normal people.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 08:29 AM • permalink

  120. Agile, you would not be hanging around here saying things like “liberal sycophants” if you were in any way as even handed as you want to portray.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:30 AM • permalink

  121. In other words agile, the term “liberal sycophants” was totally uncalled for. People are allowed to prefer one side or another without it making them “sycophants”.

    Are ALP voters “Labor sycophants”?

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:31 AM • permalink

  122. #96

    Of course we know the nation has spoken.  I don’t recall reading any posts calling for declaring the election invalid or otherwise launching some kind of putsch.

    So grumble we will.

    Posted by Nathan_C on 2007 11 24 at 08:31 AM • permalink

  123. FUCK OFF BUM BOY

    you join our blog today, and proceed to tell us how to comport ourselves.

    Take your dribbling, slack arsehole back to the Wall and earn the right to talk to normal people.

    LOL….classy

    Posted by agile on 2007 11 24 at 08:31 AM • permalink

  124. Agile,

    I think you are being a bit harsh. Have a look over at LP and the bile that’s stemming forth, particularly at Mal Brough, and their side won!

    Posted by Nic on 2007 11 24 at 08:33 AM • permalink

  125. Yeah well agile, if you come into a thread and throw around terms like “sycophant” and start preaching to people about how terrible and ungracious they are, you’re likely to get it thrown back in your face.

    Be gracious to people and they’ll do the same to you in return.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:33 AM • permalink

  126. #125,

    especially for you, BUM BOY.

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 08:33 AM • permalink

  127. 123 yes.

    Anyone who consistently votes for one party without due consideration for the substance of that party is a sycophant/fanboy.

    Either way (Libs or Labor) they are not good for democracy.

    Posted by agile on 2007 11 24 at 08:33 AM • permalink

  128. Just another lying leftie troll pretending to be what he ain’t…

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:33 AM • permalink

  129. What about Tanya Plibesek quoting Vaclav Havel about democracy?  Obviously, she doesn’t know that VH is the great climate change sceptic of the modern world.

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 11 24 at 08:34 AM • permalink

  130. Cant wait to see Maxine get drilled by Kerry or Jones. Yerr right like thats gonna happen. Will be the biggest soft cock interview ever.

    Posted by jon crow on 2007 11 24 at 08:34 AM • permalink

  131. neocomms never change. It’s part of the package. Say anything, mean nothing. Twist and spin. Lies are truth, narrative is everything.

    Posted by Grimmy on 2007 11 24 at 08:34 AM • permalink

  132. Nick I have no way of proving what I say is true. I know within myself that it is true though. Leftie I may be…...rusted on Labor voter I am not.

    Posted by agile on 2007 11 24 at 08:35 AM • permalink

  133. Righto agile, away with you and your kindergarten approach to politics.

    Posted by Quentin George on 2007 11 24 at 08:36 AM • permalink

  134. Jones exposed himself again!

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:36 AM • permalink

  135. “...and when he described the suffering of a long-time staffer: “He’s had to put up with me for FIVE YEARS!” (crowd applauded, nervously).”

    That staffer is Alister Jordan, who I sat next to in third grade after arriving from the UK. Nice bloke actually, he’s done well.

    Posted by Kobaal on 2007 11 24 at 08:36 AM • permalink

  136. For what it’s worth, I thought Rudd’s speech was excellent. Good for him.

    When he was reciprocally gracious towards John Howard, I was unimpressed in the extreme by the member of his audience who shouted “Howard’s a wanker”.

    May Rudd root out such arseholes from his base, and send them back to the fringe.

    Goodnight comrades.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 11 24 at 08:36 AM • permalink

  137. Well, I just dropped two gorillas on this clusterfuck of an election.

    Now at least I can sit back and watch this gang of two bob socialists self destruct over the next three years, and nod wisely and say “I told you so”.

    Thanks to a wily and cunning accountant, I have protected myself against the impending raids on my wallet that will begin when the Gubbmint trough starts to dry up.

    Graceful in defeat? Fuck that. The war just started.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 11 24 at 08:36 AM • permalink

  138. As I said on the last thread, Agile is here with all his mates

    Posted by Big Jim on 2007 11 24 at 08:36 AM • permalink

  139. Agile, I don’t think you were old enough to vote before today’s election.

    Posted by Crossie on 2007 11 24 at 08:37 AM • permalink

  140. Agile, why is standing firm to a set of ideals ‘rusted’?

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:38 AM • permalink

  141. #132
    That little double entendre is going to cause some broken sleep.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:39 AM • permalink

  142. ...and when he described the suffering of a long-time staffer: “He’s had to put up with me for FIVE YEARS!” (crowd applauded, nervously)...

    And now it’s our turn.

    Posted by Craig Mc on 2007 11 24 at 08:39 AM • permalink

  143. Wasn’t the landslide they expected which shocked the lefties no end!  Ah well, change keeps us on our toes!  Julia as deputy PM should ruin their chances for next time.

    Posted by drooble on 2007 11 24 at 08:39 AM • permalink

  144. I think he’s more “oxidised”.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:39 AM • permalink

  145. I am 31. Do the maths.

    Nick it is quite simple really. Look at where the big pork barreling money was spent/promised. It is in the marginal seats with swinging voters.

    Safe Liberal and Labor seats generally get taken for granted because the sitting members don’t have to do much to win them back.

    Posted by agile on 2007 11 24 at 08:40 AM • permalink

  146. How lame.  The first act of Rudd’s Prime Ministership should be to sack his current speechwriter and hire John Howard.

    Posted by Alex of Canberra on 2007 11 24 at 08:41 AM • permalink

  147. Any bets on how long it will take for Labor to stuff the country?

    Posted by Guardian_Angel on 2007 11 24 at 08:41 AM • permalink

  148. Marginal seats matter, agile. Do the maths.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2007 11 24 at 08:42 AM • permalink

  149. Once again the so-called Green coming-of-age has proved to be a damp squib. And Kerry Nettle’s gone. Yay.

    Well that’s something positive out of the train wreck.

    I should try and be positive - there’s a chance that Rudd’s team won’t screw everything up.  I’m still fixing my interest rates though.

    Posted by Craig Mc on 2007 11 24 at 08:43 AM • permalink

  150. #107 Nick

    Did you noticed Mr Rudd never said he loved his life partner??

    Posted by Tissa on 2007 11 24 at 08:43 AM • permalink

  151. #136

    Jones exposed himself again!

    Must have been the music… Bow chicka bow!

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 11 24 at 08:44 AM • permalink

  152. Just received this by SMS:

    The Labor party today announced it is going to change the Australian emblem from an Emu and Kangaroo, to a condom. This is because it reflects the Labor party’s political stance more correctly.

    A condom allows for substantial inflation, halts production, destroys the chances of the next generation, protects a bunch of pricks and gives you a strong sense of security while you are actually being fucked.

    Nice.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 11 24 at 08:46 AM • permalink

  153. It’s going to be entertaining when everyone else does what Kevvie did in the House of Reps.

    He deliberately turned his back on Howard, Costello and all ministers and scribbled in a fake notebook. The left of labor will give Rudd the same treatment.

    As of this evening, I’m returning the insult.

    John Howard is a fine man, and Kev can’t shine a dim light on him.

    We live in a democracy and we accept the decision of our majority, but Rudd is a twit who will be bounced out of the nest before long.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 08:46 AM • permalink

  154. 3 weeks.

    Posted by Nilknarf Arbed on 2007 11 24 at 08:46 AM • permalink

  155. Thank you so much, Mr Howard, for all your efforts. We, due to your work, now live in prosperity. You leave with grace and integrity. Thank you Mr Howard, I believe that you and your team have made my family and myself more self assured. Sir, though I am hesitant to note this, you do leave with more creditability than some of your noted predecessors. To you and your family, may God smile with good fortune. Thank you.

    Posted by BJM on 2007 11 24 at 08:47 AM • permalink

  156. Yay - we have a librarian named “Kevin” leading us.  errrrgh.  “This snayshun osshtraylee-ya”.  Please pause between “this nation” and “Australia”  (what, it’s not Australia?)

    Posted by drooble on 2007 11 24 at 08:48 AM • permalink

  157. I just came from a Liberal Party function in Perth. Also present was that ex ABC, now “60 Minutes” talking head/show pony Liam Bartlett.

    The ponce could barely contain his excitement when JWH conceded until he looked around at all the party faithful surrounding him and it sank into his beautifully coiffed head that he should perhaps show a little restraint if he wanted to escape with his teeth intact.

    No bias in the meeja, oh no.

    Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 11 24 at 08:48 AM • permalink

  158. #155 aaah Dan,

    you’ve just encapsulated the next three years.

    Talk about a nutshell!!!

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 08:49 AM • permalink

  159. #150 “Any bets on how long it will take for Labor to stuff the country?”

    My guess is Christmas 2008.  By then we should have a postal strike, petral strike and a beer strike.  Ah, brings back fond memories. 

    Of course I realise by now some of these industries may be beyond the unions’ grasp.

    Posted by Crossie on 2007 11 24 at 08:50 AM • permalink

  160. Oh, and that should be “Bom - chicka - wah - waaah” shouldn’t it?  Joule-ya Gillard.  Flattened vowels for the next few years.  And to al the fags who believed that the 58 pieces of discriminatory legislation would be repealed/amended.  Watch this space: this neo-con fag is counting down from now…

    Posted by drooble on 2007 11 24 at 08:51 AM • permalink

  161. Agile, indeed, you’re right that safe seats cop something of a screwing in terms of pork barrelling on either side - they get nothing. But it isn’t ‘what’s in it for me’ that defines how I vote, it’s what’s in it for the majority, what’s best for the greatest number of us. I believe the right is best and that’s why I lean right. As a childless couple, Nora and I get very little from any govt - a good economy and certain values are all we ask for.

    I see you’re 31 and you said do the maths. Well, you were 20, voting in your first Federal Election when Howard came to PM. The Americans say a Republican is a Democrat who’s been mugged. Well enjoy your mugging over the next few years.

    Now, we tired and off to bed. We have a child’s confirmation to attend in the morning so don’t flatter yourself that you’ve won the debate old chap.

    —Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2007 11 24 at 08:51 AM • permalink

  162. #160 Pedro,

    was that “excitement” or “excrement”?

    Posted by Pogria on 2007 11 24 at 08:52 AM • permalink

  163. damn shame about the outcome but I’m still thankful I live in a democratic country!

    Mind you, Monday at work is going to be a bit much. I work with the most PC, lefty folk you could ever hope to meet and they will be crowing. Ah well, everyone gets their day in the sun I guess.

    Posted by Junia on 2007 11 24 at 08:52 AM • permalink

  164. Nilk, I reckon they’ll let him stay on for a bit before the ill-health/strains of office excuse comes into play.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 08:52 AM • permalink

  165. And Anthony Green on the ABC coverage should be careful about his “we should win” - slight bias showing…

    Posted by drooble on 2007 11 24 at 08:54 AM • permalink

  166. I wonder if this has been a Kennett election. How many people are thinking ‘oh, shit!’

    Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 11 24 at 08:55 AM • permalink

  167. #95 I know heaps of people that worked for Rudd inthe Goss Government,  I know on onee (1) that thought he was good.  She was a typist.  Anyone invovled in policy or Cabinet processess reckon he was attila the hun.

    I had a laugh at Plibersek getting all excited onthe telcast.  The poor woman thinks she is going to have a sya in policy!

    This is my forecast: Rudd will greatly expand PM&C, with for example, a special climate change office to actually run environmental policy with Garret as a figurehead minister.  In fact most ministers, with the exception of useful ones like Swan, Smith and Emerson will have tog et permission from the PM&C to fart.  Gillard will be the exception because her job will be to keep the ACTU from scaring the voters horses.

    PM Rudd managed to convince enough people, especially those bored with change, that the ALP could be a safe pair of hands.  His Prime Ministership will be short lived if he doesn’t live up to that promise.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 08:55 AM • permalink

  168. Could someone explain to me how it is determined elections will occur? It seems like in the UK/Australia it isn’t every X number of years but is precipitated by other events. Thanks.

    Posted by Redd on 2007 11 24 at 08:56 AM • permalink

  169. #162, It’s nearly midnight so petral = petrol (gasoline to our US friends).

    Posted by Crossie on 2007 11 24 at 08:58 AM • permalink

  170. #171 In england the govt has five year terms, in Australia three, but the parliament has no fixed term and the PM decides the election date.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 09:00 AM • permalink

  171. Many, many thanks to John Howard ans his government for leaving the nation with 4% unemployment and for the first time in over a generation, a realistic prospect of achieving full employment (if we’re not there already).

    And that’s in addition to sustained low inflation - even if every pet shop galah does want to get into a flat spin because inflation is nudging 3%.

    I suspect unemployment has now bottomed out. Employers will now be having a long, hard look at their more marginal employees with the view of giving them the arse before 1 July 2008, which is the earliest Labor’s IR rollback legislation can pass the Senate.

    Posted by Young and Free on 2007 11 24 at 09:00 AM • permalink

  172. my us friends. I feel like we betr

    Posted by hooligan on 2007 11 24 at 09:04 AM • permalink

  173. re #171

    No, it’s every 3 years but the PM gets to pick the actual date on which votes are cast.

    Posted by tertius on 2007 11 24 at 09:06 AM • permalink

  174. Even when the ALP win they can’t let go of their conspiracy theories. Over at Webdiary one of them reckons Malcolm Turnbull must have rigged his vote.

    Madness.

    Posted by Villeurbanne on 2007 11 24 at 09:07 AM • permalink

  175. #175,hooligan

    You may feel better, you and your friends, but you certainly can’t spell or tell a joke.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 09:09 AM • permalink

  176. #177 a more feasible conspiracy is that the illuminati in the ALP helped Turnbull out by preselecting Newhouse. /moonbat

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 09:10 AM • permalink

  177. my USA friends - cant bring myself to read anything about the election. i feel betrayed. do not foresake me or my nation. still your freind- (I’m takin names - can u believe these fucks)

    Posted by hooligan on 2007 11 24 at 09:10 AM • permalink

  178. #177
    A lesson for us all. Don’t drink your own bath water.

    Posted by lotocoti on 2007 11 24 at 09:11 AM • permalink

  179. Ah ha! Victory!

    And you know what this means, don’t you.

    After all these years of alienation, powerlessness, disenfranchisement and neglect … finally, we can SAVE THE BUMPER STICKER!

    Posted by splice on 2007 11 24 at 09:11 AM • permalink

  180. #166

    Yeah, Junia, we have had 11 years of exceptionally good government. It is actually healthy for the system of government we have to change government every two terms.

    As for the office staffers, just say that the bar KRudd and the Komrades have to reach to equal Howard is about an 8% improvement in their personal wealth every single year.

    Personally, my area of work is safe from Krudd (well, according to ALP policy) and I have a good backup option.

    But it will be odd feeling sympathetic to people in the public service when Krudd’s razor gang comes to cut their throats - because most of them voted for him.

    He did this in Queensland.

    MarkL
    Canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2007 11 24 at 09:13 AM • permalink

  181. Things could turn interesting next year:
    the drought is ending.  The drought has caused a drag on economic growth of about 0.7 percent for nearly seven years.  A bumper summer and winter crop will cause growth to bounce up, and we are already running at four percent.
    tie that in with a possible US recession and the potential for the construction and other left wing unions to play a bit of catch up and we could catch more than a cold.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 09:14 AM • permalink

  182. #178 maree s, actually, not sure how In managed to post that comment - put that down to Bundy.      but no shit, I’m gutted by the result. Im gonna get even with some cunt for this

    Posted by hooligan on 2007 11 24 at 09:16 AM • permalink

  183. #183 there is a stack of (younger) senior Queensland Public Servants with rather high expectations of moving to Canberra.  Along with quite a few that wouldn’t work for Rudd again if he was the last employer on earth.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 09:17 AM • permalink

  184. #171: It’s called a parliamentary system - the country elects the lower house of the Parliament, which in turn “elects” (rather, closer to appoint) the executive.

    The head of state (the Queen, represented by the Governor-General, in this case) can decide when to call for the elections, often on the advice of the Prime Minister or the lack of confidence in Parliament. But an election must be called every three years in the case of Australia.

    The benefit of this is that you don’t have campaigns for the next election starting almost immediately after an election, as in the case of America. There are other benefits, like the stability of governance (policy doesn’t change as drastically in parliamentary systems as they do in presidential systems).

    Posted by Rajan R on 2007 11 24 at 09:17 AM • permalink

  185. Thanks for the explanation. Three years and he’s out!

    Posted by Redd on 2007 11 24 at 09:17 AM • permalink

  186. #179 - That’s wonderful!

    Is there no end to the devious acts of those cunning Jewi.. Err… Illuminati?

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2007 11 24 at 09:19 AM • permalink

  187. #170
    Entropy, your comment on PM&C is probably on the mark. This will make dealing with them an interesting experience, they will have to keep slipping out of meetings, mumbling, “sorry guys, I gotta go, it’s my turn to take Minister Garrett walkies and feed him his tofu… where’s that bloody muzzle and leash!!?!”

    MarkL
    canberra

    Posted by MarkL on 2007 11 24 at 09:21 AM • permalink

  188. #186 still fighting political battles from 2003? 

    Iraq didn’t get a run in the campaign because when it really got down to it, Rudd isn’t really pulling out of Iraq, with the exception of the sharps that are there to protect the blunts.  I expect even that postion to get watered down even more too now he is actually responsible.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 09:21 AM • permalink

  189. Someone said the porn music was Powderfinger. But I dunno. I’d rather listen to Beethoven.

    Posted by saint on 2007 11 24 at 09:26 AM • permalink

  190. #171 and #173, The next election must be held three years from the previous one though there is a buffer of three months after that date (somebody correct me if I’m wrong).  However, the prime minister can ask for an early election if the circumstances are favourable, ie. polls point to a win. 

    An election may also be called early if the budget or an important piece of legislation keeps being blocked by the Senate.  This is known as double-dissolution and, as well as the House of Representatives, the whole of Senate goes us for re-election.

    Posted by Crossie on 2007 11 24 at 09:27 AM • permalink

  191. #183 MarkL, I work in the non-profit sector - which relies on donations from the public to be able to fund its programs.

    So I voted Liberal because (among other reasons) I know not to bite the hand that feeds me. My co-workers have forgotten that the public will only be generous donators when it is financially secure.

    Thus the irony - a non-profit organisation mostly staffed with lefty types who disliked the coalition intensely, yet were able to do so much in terms of program delivery because of the economic climate delivered by the very government they despised.

    Voicing that during the next few weeks will give me some small satisfaction.

    G

    Posted by Junia on 2007 11 24 at 09:34 AM • permalink

  192. hey maree, an anyone else who I may have inadvertally offended in ma stupip stupor -rum induced.  jus wanna say, u is dead right to feel pissed - mothers what din give their boobies fer john ain no muthas of this here proud nation of oZ. no i aint been funny or ironic, I’m sayin ifn u din vote Howard u vote nullity - n fuk u

    Posted by hooligan on 2007 11 24 at 09:37 AM • permalink

  193. Give it six months, and I reckon these bumper stickers will sell like hot cakes:

    Don’t blame me, I voted Liberal

    Posted by John_K on 2007 11 24 at 09:37 AM • permalink

  194. Me, too, “I wish the government elected by the people of Australia the very best in the years ahead.”

    Posted by m on 2007 11 24 at 09:38 AM • permalink

  195. Personally, I think the reason John Howard lost was the people wanted a change after 11 years of leadership.  Even eleven years of good great leadership.  That’s an awfully long time.

    Sad as it is to see a great PM leave, it will give us many opportunities to make fun of the left.  I had a great time during the Bill and Hillary years.

    Posted by wronwright on 2007 11 24 at 09:39 AM • permalink

  196. How funny. Kevin Rudd is already boring, and it’s just past midnight.

    What have you done, Australia?

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 09:43 AM • permalink

  197. Have a T-shirt in mind, says “Don’t blame me,I voted Howard”. Or maybe make a good bumper sticker. Anyway should be available xmas or early next year. About how long it will take labor to stuff the country.

    Posted by jon crow on 2007 11 24 at 09:43 AM • permalink

  198. The Ruddles government.

    The Ruddlings.

    The only danger is if Ruddles and Co think Australians voted for them and their policies, rather than against an old government.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 11 24 at 09:46 AM • permalink

  199. Hey John K 197 thats my idea. Right thats it I’m copying righting it…

    Posted by jon crow on 2007 11 24 at 09:49 AM • permalink

  200. Howard gave a great speech. It has been obvious that being Prime Minister was a job that he absolutely loved and he gave it his all. He is the only PM that I have seen that has not aged quickly over the years, look at the effect it had on Hawk and Keating.

    He has devoted his entire life to politics and remember he is 68 now. Surely he has earnt a long and restful retirement after such a massive effort in the most stressful job in the country.

    Time will tell how Kevin handles the pressure, I doubt if he will do it as well. We shall see.

    Posted by rbresca on 2007 11 24 at 09:50 AM • permalink

  201. #201 I hate that kind of thing.  The people voted.  Look forward to the fun and mirth of the likes of Peter Garret actually having to deliver.  Wait for the grief from the left when they discover PM Rudd really is Howard lite.  He has to be or get voted out next election.

    I’m with Maree, the new PM didn’t even wait for his speech to end before getting boring.  And I am sure that speech was cut out from the less interesting bits from Hawkie and Howards’s earlier victory speeches.

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 09:55 AM • permalink

  202. I’ll say this for RUdd, his speech was not the unedifying gloating that Keating gave us in 1993 (Care of Bob Ellis, I recollect)

    Posted by entropy on 2007 11 24 at 09:57 AM • permalink

  203. You’re a Senator are ya? Well if nuffin’ gets blocked, no-one gets blocked mate, if ya get my drift…

    /Julia’s plaintiff

    Posted by splice on 2007 11 24 at 09:59 AM • permalink

  204. #11

    Don’t you worry, those yanks will soon elect Hillary! and Kevin will have found his soul mate.

    *shudders*

    Posted by missred on 2007 11 24 at 10:01 AM • permalink

  205. #203 jon crow

    Sorry, but I did get in first.  :-P

    Still, I do like the T-shirt idea though.

    Posted by John_K on 2007 11 24 at 10:11 AM • permalink

  206. Wait for Kevin’s first speech today.

    Forgive me if I slee in until lunchtime.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 10:13 AM • permalink

  207. bugger, that should have read “sleep”

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 10:16 AM • permalink

  208. fuckaduck

    Posted by murph on 2007 11 24 at 10:19 AM • permalink

  209. #11 Could Kevin have his soul mate without us having to elect her president? Please?

    Posted by Retread on 2007 11 24 at 10:21 AM • permalink

  210. .(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address) is a three-Kleenex event. Nice support from the crowd.

    Posted by m on 2007 11 24 at 10:23 AM • permalink

  211. Oops, sorry.

    Concession speech.

    Posted by m on 2007 11 24 at 10:25 AM • permalink

  212. On the bright side, it’s been raining up here.
    13mm on Thursday night.
    59mm in a storm on Friday.
    steady rain all day today took it up from 71mm to 109mm.
    That’s 4 inches in the imperial measurement.

    Good news. And it’s been falling on the dams. Some parts of the valley I live in had 100mm in the storm yesterday.

    Kevin Rudd, Prime Minister.


    Waaaaaaaaaaaah.

    It’s OK, I’ll be all right.

    As others have said, it will be very interesting to watch.

    Like a train wreck.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 10:29 AM • permalink

  213. Oh, Tim! Was the election night treat up to scratch?

    Looking at the outcome it probably could have used more rum.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 10:31 AM • permalink

  214. This is the first time I’ve watched the results on Channel 7 - couldn’t bear the idea of sitting there watching Kerry O’Brien cover this on the ABC.

    I don’t know about all of you, but my consolation prize is finally seeing the Dems consigned to the ash-heap of history.  Oh, and the Climate Change Coalition (led in NSW by Patrice Newell - wife of aging buffoon Phillip Adams) got about 26K primary votes.  This is good - it underpolled the Christian Democrats, the DLP, the Shooters Party AND the Pauline Hanson ticket.  Hopefully the olive rancher will run a blog over at the Australian on Tuesday so this can be pointed out.

    I can only echo Pedro supra -
    “Graceful in defeat? Fuck that. The war just started”

    Posted by Renegade Lawyer on 2007 11 24 at 10:33 AM • permalink

  215. Someone said, while we were counting, that soon we’d be using electronic voting.

    I said, “You’ve got to be kidding. If people burr up about using a bloody pencil, I can’t see them accepting electronic or mechanical means of voting.”

    Strewth. I had a punter burr up about using a pencil. FFS. As if we’re going to hang around in the polling booth and change their bloody votes by erasing them!!!? If there was something shonky surely it’d be that papers would be substituted or “lost”.

    I noted at the counting stage that many of the ballots marked with BIRO not pencil, were for the ALP.

    How unusual.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 10:35 AM • permalink

  216. Audience enthusiasm seemed to trail off a few times

    They were just resting their eyes.

    Posted by kae on 2007 11 24 at 10:36 AM • permalink

  217. Stop continental drift! Save the planet! Make property history!

    Speak truth to power!

    Wow… it’s only been an hour or two and I think I’m getting the hang of this already.

    Posted by splice on 2007 11 24 at 10:43 AM • permalink

  218. I’m moving to Bavaria.

    Posted by Mystery Meat on 2007 11 24 at 10:45 AM • permalink

  219. The left and labor may be very surprised that the rest of us will disengage from politics for a while and go on to other things. Like having a life.

    Personally, I’m going fishing. I have rigged up a nice bream rod and will be testing out a new kit of soft plastics this morning.

    Anyone close to us here in Newcastle is welcome aboard. The fish are biting and I’m over KR big-time.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 10:47 AM • permalink

  220. #98
    Wonder if Kevni is feeling like a post-coital male praying mantis yet?

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 24 at 10:49 AM • permalink

  221. speechless sorry, all I can think to say is       ‘fuck fuck fuck God help us’

    was at Mal Brough’s- everyone veering between anger and depression. The journos there don’t know how close they came to being lynched.

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 24 at 10:51 AM • permalink

  222. #218
    Olive oil rancher’s blog pic suggestion

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 24 at 11:02 AM • permalink

  223. The saddest thing is that Kev will become an embarrassment over the next few months/years as people realise he has not got a lot of substance about him. He was just brought in to do a “me too” and push labor over the line and that does fine until you are left all alone to make your own decisions. Let the fun begin.

    Posted by rbresca on 2007 11 24 at 11:05 AM • permalink

  224. hey egg, you up?-thought I was   the only one.

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 24 at 11:05 AM • permalink

  225. How many “Coalition of the Willing” leaders does that leave?

    Well, considering they’re all leaders of democracies, where the people are averse to electing the same man in perpetuity, I’d say they had a pretty good run. How long were Blair and Howard in power? Berlusconi was done in by his own corruption, and Aznar lost because the Madrid bombings spooked the Spaniards.

    In addition, Canada, France, England and Germany elected pro-American leaders, and with the exception of England, those were all an about-face from the previous leadership.

    Were you trying to make a point? Or is it just a rhetorical question?

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 11 24 at 11:08 AM • permalink

  226. don’t want to go to bed- I’ll wake up with a hangover and have to face the fact I’ve just witnessed a coup. Better to stay awake and drunk for the time being

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 24 at 11:09 AM • permalink

  227. Phrase “You know what?” used three times.

    My God, you elected John Kerry!

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 11 24 at 11:10 AM • permalink

  228. #223 Maree,  I’m just a few beaches south of you, here at Cape Three Points. Blame the great explorer James Cook for the cryptic but easily referenced locale.

    Maybe it’s what I grew up with, but I reckon there’s no better table fish than bream, pan sizzled in butter. If you can catch ‘em with soft plastics, I’ll hold my breath and hide in the bottom of your live bait tank for as long as it takes, just to see how it’s done!

    Posted by splice on 2007 11 24 at 11:10 AM • permalink

  229. #225 eeniemeenie, we met Mal Brough earlier this year at a commemoration for Op Bribie. He presented my husband’s looie with an official citation that really should have been a military cross.

    Anyway, Brough struck us as a very decent person.

    “fuck fuck fuck” is an appropriate reaction.

    This country is fucked because idiots are now in charge and people like Mike and myself and the kids have placed our money out of reach,

    We will still live here, but we won’t pay tax to this new regime. Just wait until they get the claws into the unwary.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 11:15 AM • permalink

  230. Well, Aussie friends, it couldn’t last forever. Democracies demand turnover. You’ll weather this, as we’ll weather the Hildebeast. Let’s all just batten down and ride it out, and do so with more grace, class and intelligence than the hysterical teenagers on the Left have demonstrated.

    Me, I’m going to be entertained by watching the Lefties rhapsodize on how flowers will bloom brighter and rainbows will shoot out of our asses under the benevolent gaze of their enlightened leaders.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2007 11 24 at 11:15 AM • permalink

  231. #228 eenie
    Ready to crash, long day ...

    Howard’s concession speech was gracious and moving and, to her credit, Jules appeared to show genuine admiration for him in her salutation ...

    Posted by egg_ on 2007 11 24 at 11:22 AM • permalink

  232. #232. splice,

    I catch them all the time off the back of our boat at Newcastle marina, but most especially at the gate end of our finger close to the ramp.

    Soft plastics are great in my favourite spot.

    As for cooking, I gut them and grill them, and eat with lemon.

    Mike and I have done this all our lives, never eat fish any other way. We’ve been doing up the rods this week. You’re welcome to join us after the weekend when we have them back on the boat.

    We’re just about to put the crab traps out, and our trawler mate is going up the river on Monday week when the prawn season opens.

    This is the time to be on the water in Newcastle. Come and introduce yourself at the Albion pub.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 11:32 AM • permalink

  233. Sic transit gloria mundi.

    Posted by Simon Darkshade on 2007 11 24 at 11:32 AM • permalink

  234. My condolences, Australia. This does not bode well for the US in next year’s election. We can only hope the collectivists don’t do too much damage until the pendulum swings back.

    Posted by Latino on 2007 11 24 at 11:33 AM • permalink

  235. Goodbye John Howard, we will miss you. Let’shope Australia has many more ‘wonder years’.

    Your friend,

    America

    Posted by quickrob on 2007 11 24 at 11:39 AM • permalink

  236. Well, this is indeed depressing news to wake up to. What brought this about? Is the Australian economy in the toilet?

    It’s almost like a death in the family. You all have my deepest sympathies.
    .

    #234 Dave S.

    You’ll weather this, as we’ll weather the Hildebeast.

    There’s very little worry about that: no one with as high “negatives” as Shrillary’s has EVER won the White House. No, the danger is that her campaign crashes and burns ahead of the Convention and the Donks have time to nominate someone electable.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 11 24 at 11:40 AM • permalink

  237. We will miss you John Howard, but all good things come to an end.  As Mark Steyn has noted
    , all the opponents of the Iraq War, as well as all the supports (except Bush) have now left the scene.  Such is democracy.

    As a Canadian, I am glad that in Harper we now have a leader in the Howard mode.  Next year, the United States may not be able to say the same.

    Posted by Truenorth on 2007 11 24 at 11:45 AM • permalink

  238. RIP Democracy

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 24 at 11:48 AM • permalink

  239. Thanks Maree, I’d love to meet up with you and Mike.

    And there’ll be plenty to talk about. It looks like Labor took the windward end of the line at the starting gun this time. But it’s a long way to the weather mark and the tacking duel begins now.

    Posted by splice on 2007 11 24 at 12:01 PM • permalink

  240. The cheezy porno jazz music just confirms what I’ve suspected here in America:  in politics, as in the arts, the so-called “progressives” are simply abandoning the 21st century.

    And be strong, Australia.  If America hadn’t had Carter, we’d never have gotten Ronald Reagan…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 11 24 at 12:06 PM • permalink

  241. Thank you John Howard.  The world is a much better place because of your leadership.


    *very appreciative Yank here*

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 24 at 12:12 PM • permalink

  242. how should we express non acceptance of the Fresh New Krudd coup?

    this election was bought. We were outnumbered on the hustings 10 to 1- and they were PAID


    Can I get a green card?

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 24 at 12:17 PM • permalink

  243. Pretend you’re Mexican and you won’t need one.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2007 11 24 at 12:20 PM • permalink

  244. splice, if you do come here, you have to help us lay the marks in return for a day’s fishing, and then help pick them up after the race.
    Newcastle is now one of the few Cat4/Cat7 offshore ocean racing circuits in NSW.

    A salute to John Howard. He’s ten times the man Rudd ever will be.

    How could this dope ever pretend to be a prime minister? 

    Look at labor state premiers and now look at rudd, and see what Australia will have for 30 years.

    Howard was our last best hope at a federal level. Now, look after yourselves.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 12:21 PM • permalink

  245. RECOUNT!?...:)

    The next three years should be interesting if #96 is any indication.  I think the Tim Tam needs to install a sandbox if Agile stays.  Right out of lefty central casting.

    Onward and upward Blairistan!

    Posted by yojimbo on 2007 11 24 at 12:22 PM • permalink

  246. I’m from Los Angeles.  Can someone tell or give a link to an explanation of what this means?:

    > Howard also, as did Mal Brough,
    > urges that Labor support ongoing
    > intervention in wretched Aboriginal
    > areas.

    Otherwise, condolences to all.

    Posted by cridland on 2007 11 24 at 12:23 PM • permalink

  247. #247 ummm,yo exitate Cuba dell Sud con leakante boat et yo quero cerbeza por favor

    will that do?

    Posted by eeniemeenie on 2007 11 24 at 12:25 PM • permalink

  248. #219 Kae, I often do the polling officer bit too, up here in teh great White(Cold)  North.

    The best system I have used is that used for Ottawa municipal elections.

    The ballot form has a mcircle for each candidate, which you select by filling in with a penicil or whatever as long as it’s black. The ballot is then placed between two sheets and fed into an electronic scanner.

    Thus the three requiremetns are met:

    1. Secrecy.
    2. Paper trail if required.
    3. Efficient and accurate counting.

    Posted by Wimpy Canadian on 2007 11 24 at 12:30 PM • permalink

  249. You know what?

    Keving keeps asking that.

    Keving will be missing in action before Christmas.

    Posted by mareeS on 2007 11 24 at 12:33 PM • permalink

  250. This is like Clement Atlee beating Winston Churchill at the end of WWII.  John Howard was there when the civilized needed Australia, and nothing can change that.

    Posted by The Sanity Inspector on 2007 11 24 at 12:35 PM • permalink

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