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Headline in the Washington Post:
Arab World Outraged Over Hangings in Iraq
Odd that this headline hasn’t appeared in previous centuries.
I’ve long felt that our Western culture is just too harsh and crude for the tender sensibilities of the Arab psyche. It’s clear that one unintended consequence of our occupation is the “Americanization” of Iraq, a slap in the face of centuries of Arab achievement and cultural advancement.
Posted by Kyda Sylvester on 2007 01 18 at 12:09 PM • permalinkIraqi government’s execution Monday of Barzan Ibrahim, who was beheaded as he was hanged
How the hell did that manage that? The British Empire produced guidelines for a clean hanging, including tables of weights and rope lengths. It’s easily available after a moment’s googling.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 18 at 12:13 PM • permalinkO/T
Lots of arab men walk around in the Middle East holding hands. Now I love my mates, but holding hands is a little bit beyond the love i want to show to them. A round in the pub generally helps.Posted by artful-dodger on 2007 01 18 at 01:32 PM • permalinkHmmmm.
It’s either that or the goats, and who wants to hold hands with a goat?
Ahhhhh. That’s a rhetorical question right?
Posted by memomachine on 2007 01 18 at 05:12 PM • permalinkI heard some arab interviewed about the botched hanging, he said he had never heard of someone being decapitated in a hanging so the body must have been interfered with… How horrendous.
What do these people do with infidels? (hint: behead)
What do these people do with bodies? (Those of their own people and those of their “enemies”. Think public display, mutilation.)And what does the Arab world and the Washington Post, or any feminist you ever heard of have to say about this?
Posted by Margos Maid on 2007 01 18 at 06:21 PM • permalink#22 kae.
I heard some arab interviewed about the botched hanging, he said he had never heard of someone being decapitated in a hanging so the body must have been interfered with
How stupid are these people? Obviously, if the rope is too long you reach a point where either the rope or the neck will separate (assuming the scaffold is stronger than both). In this case the rope was stronger. Correct rope lengths are here.
Posted by flying pigs over mecca on 2007 01 18 at 06:40 PM • permalinkFellow commenters you are way outta line on this one!
I have always been outraged and disgusted by the hangings in Iraq. And recent ones are no exception.
I see a lot of them on TV, when you see footage inside palaces, government offices and especially peoples homes.
There they are, gaudy, ostentatious and garish. usually they cover most of the wall, as a decoration, or they are a large long curtain made of wool, or camel hair or some such. Disgustingly over the top, covered in excessive designs and flourishes.
They are insult to good taste. And don’t start me on the furniture and couches!! Good god, so ornate that they make me cringe.
Bad interior decorating should be a capital offence.
#23 MM: That is what I would call a Muslim outrage (instead of an outraged Muslim). Sad and terrible. And check this out from the article you linked: “Nazanin, who was 17 years old at the time of the incident, said that after the three men started to throw stones at them, the two girls’ boyfriends quickly escaped on their motorbikes leaving the pair helpless.”
I have seen enough Muslim “honor” to last me a lifetime.
Muzzie
I have read a lot on forensic type stuff and know that if the weight and the drop are not calculated properly the head can be severed - you’d think these bloodthirsty fools would know a bit about murder and death - they seem to be experts at it.
Though hoisting someone up on a crane will not usually break their neck, just strangle them, so I suppose their research is flawed - oh, wait, they must use theLameLane Research Method!Arab World Outraged Over Hangings in Iraq
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Posted by Infidel Tiger on 2007 01 18 at 10:06 PM • permalinkOf course they’re outraged.
It was done in private, the TV footage was awful and the one guy that had the common sense to film it and release it was banged up.
It should have been done in a public square at noon with lots of media fanfare in advance to whip up the crowds. If you don’t have a public square big enough, I suppose the modern equivalent is a sports stadium.
He should have been taken to the place of execution in a tumbril and the population given plenty of opportunity to let him know what they thought of him. I am sure there are a lot of Arabs who are now stuck with bottled up feelings that they can no longer express.
The failure to mount his head on a pike and display it next to the city gates totally outrages me.
I am also furiously outraged that the packet of Smarties that I just consumed did not contain the requisite number of red Smarties. I now feel the need to blow something up.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 05:02 AM • permalinkPerhaps it might be useful for the editors of the Washington Post to consider that there are differences between cultures, and that people from different cultures will react in ways that others find quite alien.
For instance, consider how these stereotypes would react if they were walking down a French boulevarde and they trod in a dog turd:
Frenchman - “Ce la vie”. Walks off.
Englishman - “I say old chap, you seem to have trodden in something rotten. There must be a Frenchman round here that you can wipe it on”.
Yank - Neatly collects turd in antiseptic (ha ha) plastic bag and deposits in nearest rubbish bin. Overhears someone saying something about a Labrador doing it. Goes home and send B-52s to pound the Canadian peninsular of Labrador.
German - “Mein Gott! Filthy French faggots!” Stomps off down the street.
Jap - surreptiously glances at foot with poker face, totally ignores the fact that his shoe is covered in crap and walks on as if nothing has happened.
Arab - rants, raves, rents clothing, tears at hair, wails, declares Jihad, rapes several poodles, beheads a cat and torches all the cars in the street. But only after the TV cameras have arrived.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 05:19 AM • permalinkLets just hope they never figure out the code.
I mean, if they ever figure out that that particular head coming off that particular hangee on that particular day was a coded signal from the shia leadership to HAMAS that:
yes, Hezbulla has gotten too big for its britches and should be wiped out. Lets ally with Israel and clean that mess up next summer.
If they ever crack that code, we’ll have to go back to smuggling decoder rings back and forth in specially marked boxes of breakfast cereals.
#36. grimmy - Australians don’t go to France. It is full of filthy frog.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 07:31 AM • permalinkWell ok, maybe some go to France. But they are smart enough to avoid treading in all the dog shit.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 07:37 AM • permalinkCan someone please explain to me where this “Arab World” is located in our cosmos.
After all, I thought there was just one world - the one we are living on. Is it another planet out by Uranus somewhere? Did it replace Pluto? How do people from “Arab World” get to our planet? Do they have an advanced space program, or do they come via a wormhole? Do they come down in spaceships and give anal probes to goats?
It’s like the “Arab Street”. I pulled out my trusty street map and looked at the index and can’t find it anywhere. If anyone has located it using Google Earth, please send me the co-ordinates. I’m fascinated to see what it looks like from space.
Besides, what right-minded journalist asks people on the street for their opinion. I thought journalists hung around in bars. That’s much more sensible - you’re likely to hear much better stories in bars, there are stools to sit on and nice barmaids to look at. And there are lots of things to drink.
The only people I ever see talking on the street are the shoeless people from the park who are pushing shopping trolleys containing very loud boom-boxes, plastic shopping bags and many empty aluminium cans, and they are generally either talking to themself or God.
Some of them have poo in their pants. I wouldn’t trust any story that came from “the street”.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 07:46 AM • permalink#40. grimmy, I fibbed. I’ve been to France and trodden in the dogshit and my reaction was;
“Fuck, what stinks?”
I don’t know what the French feed their dogs, but dog turds over there stink like no other dog turd that I have ever smelt in my life. (And no, I don’t make a habit of walking around inspecting dog turds in different countries).
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 07:50 AM • permalink8. Mr Pierrepont (sic?) one of the leading hangmen in England develloped the tables you are refferring to. However he would still insist on seeing the person to be hanged to see their health/appearance/sturdyness etc. Older or pencil necks obviously would be easier to snap off even with the correct drop.
God help the bloke who tries to hang gladstone Small is all I can say. (obligitory obscure cricket reference for our chums across the sea who cant get enough of the stuff)
Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2007 01 19 at 07:59 AM • permalink#44 - grimmy, I’m sure that cheese that glows in the dark will find plenty of export markets.
Just be prepared for it to be goats cheese, rather than brie.
I am at a loss for why the French authorities don’t use the Paris boulevardes in the way that Baron Haussman intended. ie, when there is a riot, you deploy some artillery at one end of the boulevarde, load grapeshot and fire. A cavalry charge then mops up whoever is left standing.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 19 at 08:07 PM • permalink#46:
I think half the idea of using cavalry is to terify the rioters so much, they never do it again. You don’t have to kill or maim a lot - you just maximise the number that crap their daks.
Which is why despair when I see mounted police at riots and they are never let loose.
Posted by mr creosote on 2007 01 20 at 12:57 AM • permalink
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