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OSAMA POLL NOSEDIVE

Nearly 80% of Afghans think their country is moving in the right direction:

Ninety-one percent prefer the current Afghan government to the Taliban regime, and 87 percent call the U.S.-led overthrow of the Taliban good for their country. Osama bin Laden, for his part, is as unpopular as the Taliban; nine in 10 view him unfavorably.

Progress fuels these views: Despite the country’s continued problems, 85 percent of Afghans say living conditions there are better now than they were under the Taliban. Eighty percent cite improved freedom to express political views. And 75 percent say their security from crime and violence has improved as well. After decades of oppression and war, many Afghans see a better life.

Meanwhile, an old friend makes a welcome return:


Defence spokesman Lieutenant Commander Andrew Lincoln said the PRT will face a number of challenges including the harsh Afghan winter.

Posted by Tim B. on 12/07/2005 at 11:19 PM
  1. "Warlord Winter,” the Afghans call it. It stopped Hitler right outside of Kabul.

    Posted by Donnah on 2005 12 08 at 12:40 AM • permalink

  2. QUAGMIRE!!!!

    Oops.  Sorry, wrong blog.

    Posted by JayC on 2005 12 08 at 12:42 AM • permalink

  3. didnt Jill Singer write an interesting peice just before the Afghan liberation, saying first of all it would fail due to the harsh winter, second because no one in history has ever done it, and thirdly because the local population wouldnt support it. What a great insight she has!

    Posted by JSthecorrect on 2005 12 08 at 01:04 AM • permalink

  4. ”...harsh Afghan winter...”

    Must be that nasty global warming again.

    Posted by Jay Santos on 2005 12 08 at 01:31 AM • permalink

  5. Forget about that harsh winter.  With Bush-engineered global warming and melting ice-caps, they’ll be sending Navy SEALS into Kabul.

    Posted by cuckoo on 2005 12 08 at 01:32 AM • permalink

  6. Wow, those are phenomenal numbers. Wonder how much play they’ll get in the MSM?

    BWAHAHAHA!!! I crack myself up.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 12 08 at 01:40 AM • permalink

  7. Is the Harsh Afghan Winter as bad as the Harsh American Winter?

    Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 12 08 at 01:53 AM • permalink

  8. But - but - but - we didn’t sign Kyoto! We should be broiling!

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 12 08 at 02:07 AM • permalink

  9. Not to highjack this into a global-warming thread, but the editorial page of my local newspaper, the Portland Press-Herald, has an Op-Ed entitled “Global warming: The time to act is now”, accompanied by a photo of protesters in Montreal shivering in down parkas and fur hats.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 12 08 at 02:21 AM • permalink

  10. No, No, the MSM will keep bleating on about GWB’s poll numbers, and the Iraq war, and hurricane Katrina, and the religious right, and the neoconservatives and the corporations and the…

    Posted by JamesP on 2005 12 08 at 02:34 AM • permalink

  11. Neato, can we import a few million Afghans into Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania by November 2008?

    Posted by Supercat on 2005 12 08 at 02:39 AM • permalink

  12. Defence spokesman Lieutenant Commander Andrew Lincoln said the PRT will face a number of challenges including the harsh Afghan winter.

    Hey, they’re getting better. It used to be the brutal Afghan winter.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 12 08 at 02:45 AM • permalink

  13. In Afghanistan under the Taliban, the future of Pakistan was being developed. The Pakistani secret police (or whatever they’re called) were full of Taliban sympathizers. Pakistani Nuclear scientists, including A.Q. Khan, were sympathizers too.

    A different future is being built in Afghanistan now. The MSM, full of pompous tunnelvisionaries, does not grasp the significance of this, the difference that has been made. Maybe just as well; they’d only seek ceaselessly to reverse the good that’s been done. Insect-like in the automation of their destructive behavior.

    Posted by ForNow on 2005 12 08 at 02:50 AM • permalink

  14. Fancy that? Brown people do like living under the rule of law, safely, and being allowed to run their own lives??
    Who’ve thunk it?
    Commiserations are in order for those who desperately wanted another dictator.
    BTW hows Halliburtons pipeline going? You remember the one that was the “root cause” of the peace loving, kite flying, Taliban overthrow?
    /off

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2005 12 08 at 02:53 AM • permalink

  15. #3 don’t know about Jill Singer’s dire predictions for the Afghan campaign (although I would expect as much from a low wattage, hatchet-faced, womyn like her), but I recollect similar bunk from Brigadier Adrian D’hage (retired) – who is supposedly some kind of military expert, writing for Webdiary. Yes, Magrok’s Webdiary. Ha. If you want a good laugh, go back for a read.  Apparently, this guy served in our army for 37 years.
    http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/02/16/1045330463799.html

    Posted by larrikin on 2005 12 08 at 03:02 AM • permalink

  16. The real reason for Osama bin Laden’s drop in popularity was a botched attempt at changing his identity. A fairly common procedure in the West, the Mr T ‘aplasty’ is not so well performed in the caves of Afghanistan. I pity the fool.

    Posted by Humblogger (the Younger) on 2005 12 08 at 04:21 AM • permalink

  17. I suppose someone has to point out to the MSM conspiracy theorists that this report comes from America’s ABC, a pillar of that evil ol’ MSM.

    Posted by slammer on 2005 12 08 at 04:24 AM • permalink

  18. "Jobs and economywise,ONLY 39% say there is improvement”. Only nearly 40%!
    and “At a ratio of 2:1, households felt badly off(whereas MOST AMERICAN HOUSEHOLDS felt GOOD) O gosh so most Afghanis have a lower standard of living than most Americans WOW....Who’d a thunk that?
    Yet strangely “this did not translate into political dissatisfaction.”

    Posted by crash on 2005 12 08 at 04:42 AM • permalink

  19. On the Enzed link is a story about two lesbians being jailed for a sex attack on another woman-truth is stranger than fiction.New Zealand is so progressive..

    Posted by crash on 2005 12 08 at 04:44 AM • permalink

  20. Harsh Afghan winter: below 40 degrees F?

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 12 08 at 11:36 AM • permalink

  21. The “Brutal Afghan Winter” has become an anchor for me.  Reading the bleatings of the NYTimes and other learned papers, hearing the surrender cries of Members of Congress, or even the gleeful writings of Leftist Bloggers on the news of another Soldier killed or another “Suicide bomber at Marketplace” I remember the “Brutal Afghan Winter” and I’m reminded

    - - Since 9/11,those Yahoos have ALWAYS BEEN WRONG --

    I also remind myself that the Europeans spent the whole of the 20th century being wrong [fascism, communism, socialism, literary deconstructionism].

    Posted by Blue on 2005 12 08 at 11:46 AM • permalink

  22. I also remind myself that the Europeans spent the whole of the 20th century being wrong [fascism, communism, socialism, literary deconstructionism].

    Man after me own heart. I often cite these four things as the destructive philosophies of the West. People give me weird looks about the deconstructionism.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 12 08 at 12:50 PM • permalink

  23. Interesting.  If this news doesn’t prick Osama’s pride and draw him out of his hidey-hole in Pakistan to make another video or tape, then we can safely assume he was pancaked in that last earthquake.

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 12 08 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  24. "the harsh Afghan winter?” Tomorrow’s temps range from 64 to 32 F for Qandahar.  In St. Louis, MO, in the good ole USA, it’ll be 30 to 19. Easier duty over there than freezing your buns off at home.

    Posted by gajim on 2005 12 08 at 09:08 PM • permalink

  25. I actually saw this on SBS World News last night, it was an ABC America story, but SBS broadcast it in this country. I couldn’t believe my friggin’ ears!

    Posted by Brian on 2005 12 09 at 05:26 AM • permalink

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