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OPEN THREAD ON LONDON ATTACK
Post latest news and relevant links in comments. Current status: 20 said to be killed in seven blasts across London; 95 injured; Tony Blair returning to London within hours; explosions confirmed to be work of terrorists.
Whoever did this, their supporters and enablers, should be hunted down and erased. But that goes without saying.
UPDATE. From our friends at Democratic Underground: “Funny how Bu$h always gets a distraction just when he needs it the most. That Osama fellow always comes through just in the nick of time.”
UPDATE II. Headline in this morning’s Age, about G8 security: Locals tire of security overkill. Man quoted in the article: “You would think that the whole of al-Qaeda was coming.”
UPDATE III. From the BBC’s witness accounts:
I overheard one lady saying to a police officer that it looked like someone had left what looked like a brown jumper on the platform and it exploded.
Smoke filled the platform and people were evacuated.
London is havoc now.
Thames TV’s Patrick Homes writes: “Actually it’s almost eerily calm here. The response of the emergency services has been magnificent.”
Is this one additional to the first six confirmed?
Posted by Mike Jericho on 2005 07 07 at 07:14 AM • permalinkMSM in Italy still has the official blastcount at 6
Posted by Mike Jericho on 2005 07 07 at 07:15 AM • permalinkGod, I figured the DU, Indymedia types would have at least waited until the bodies were collected. Of course, they didn’t for 9/11, so why would they for this?
Anyone know how/where we can help from here in the US?
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 07 07 at 07:23 AM • permalinkPicture of people trapped in London subway this morning:
http://moblog.co.uk/view.php?id=77571
Wikinews article:
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Explosions,_’serious_incidents’_occuring_across_Londonand Wikipedia article being written in real time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_London_transport_explosions
Whoever did this, their supporters and enablers, should be hunted down and erased. But that goes without saying.
I agree. Totally. Yes, I’ve changed my mind.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 07 at 07:35 AM • permalink“Funny how Bu$h always gets a distraction just when he needs it the most. That Osama fellow always comes through just in the nick of time.”
Typical.
Haven’t heard anything from bleeding-hearts telling us to ‘understand’ these murderers because this was somehow our fault, but it’s only a matter of time.
Skyrepeats the claim of responsibility from an Al Que’da- linked website; surely MI5 could track down the ISP and location of the prick who posted it?
so much for Rove indictment….bush crime family strikes again
how convenient for shrub and company
I am more of a believer that MIHOP is true now
our thoughts and prayers are with the english now. hopefully whoever did this will be hunted down and eliminated quickly.
Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 07 07 at 07:54 AM • permalinkJF, it looks like your link was shut down by the DU pukes as well.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 07 at 07:54 AM • permalinkSBS and 10 News have both reported that the Israeli embsassy was warned a few minutes before the blast. The Israeli foreign minister says that’s not true
Is having your brain removed a prerequisite for posting at DU?
Posted by Quentin George on 2005 07 07 at 07:55 AM • permalinkRe, #15: confirmed! Open a new browser window, copy the URL to the address input, delete the timblair.net part, and go read some crazies.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 07 at 07:58 AM • permalinkTo visit the DU links, try right clicking on the link, copy link location, paste into address bar, then remove all this stuff:
http://timblair.net/ee/index.php?URL=
That’s using Firefox. Probably something similar will work with IE.
You’re asking a conspiracy theory to make sense, blerp. Stop it!
Posted by Quentin George on 2005 07 07 at 08:06 AM • permalinkPoms would have been feeling very patriotic re: Olympics. This terrible thing will be galvanising.
Posted by WomanAgainstWomenAgainstWar on 2005 07 07 at 08:06 AM • permalink(On Kos, DU, etc)
what’s wrong with these fucking idiots?
They live in a fantasy world.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 07 07 at 08:13 AM • permalink#18 DU link – cut and paste: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4034326
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“Why does Bush need a distraction now?”—Blerp [I suspect wondering what sort of drug DU is on today]
“You’re asking a conspiracy theory to make sense, blerp. Stop it!”—Quentin George [getting a migraine]
Actually, I think Tony Blair did it. To distract the world media from Jacque Chirac’s personal attacks. [Note: I’m currently doing Kona blend coffee with a touch of tiramisu syrup.]
“The Police Chief of London, Ian Blair (not to be confused with Tony) is not the sort of person you want in charge at a time like this…It would not be surprising if he makes stupid remarks.”—Craig UK
Speaking of stupid remarks….
...has anyone heard any pronouncements from Red Ken, the vaunted mayor of London?
How long was it between the attacks on 9/11 and Guilliani coming forward?
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“...boy are we glad you are here on the case to make sure things run smoothly. No doubt you will be reminding us next that we are culturally insensitive and that terrorism is caused by…”—blogstrop
...that was supposed to be sarcasm. Sorry. I forgot to add the “; )” symbol. [Note: This system is supposed to be ExpressionEngine, but I don’t see the availability of emoticons.]
[God is alive…and airborne-ranger qualified. And so am I.]
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Chuck, please drop the format. It’s pretentious, obnoxious, and obscuring—three qualities that do not make for clear communications.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 07 07 at 08:27 AM • permalinkPhomesy,
I concur. All the roads to hospitals have been closed by the police and cleared for medical emergencies.
Situation seems to have been handled pretty well.
No-one I know is panicking (except hopefully the BBC mockumentary producer of the power of nightmares).
Time to play “wack-a-jihadi” on the streets of London. If the police don’t, the people will.
You saw the traders response to the FotE oil protestors (punch them). Well I think we will see some punching with “extreme prejudice” over a short while.
It’s time to put a bounty out for collecting jihadis (just the martyred head will do).
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“and that meant .. what?”—blogstrop
What do you mean by “what”? Are you refering to the earlier post about Tony Blair or my reply to your comment?
Please give a citation.
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“It’s pretentious, obnoxious, and obscuring—three qualities that do not make for clear communications.”—Rob Crawford
Hardly any of the claims you make.
For example. if blogstrop’s post (see above) had been placed several posts later, who could be sure who he was referring to?
Formating used provides people who have posted something I’m refering to what they need to answer.
And since my technique specifies who I am addressing, YOU don’t need to waste your time reading things that aren’t addressed to you…unless you like what I write.
Hope that helps.
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“Fortunately Red Ken is in Singapore…”—Habib
Thanks for the information. He’s probably still asleep, as he may have left instructions not to be ‘disturbed’.
RE: Mucking Things Up
“...where he [Red Ken] can’t fuck up the rescue effort…”—Habib
And that’s a good thing. His sort of ‘leadership’ needs to be in the limelight, out there fouling-up rescue and security measures; getting in the worker-bees’ way.
I’m looking forward to (1) hearing what he has to say, which won’t really matter much, (2) watching what he does, which will and (3) how the Londoners respond come next election.
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Ken Livingstone is currently flying back from Singapore.
And how about we keep the cheap politics out of this for at least the first little bit? Ok? I’m yet to hear from relatives in London who work in the area and I really don’t want people trying to score cheap political points for no reason. It is the equivalent of what the DU idiots do.
Chuck—in care you’re curious, after your first post, I stopped reading you. When I see your silly format (easy to identify quickly), I scroll past it.
This is a serious thread. It’s too bad that you are more interested in format than content.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 07 07 at 08:52 AM • permalinkhttp://www.thamesclippers.com/ will try and get you home
Admin OT: I’ve temporarily banned the Pelto because he’s already up to his old tricks and I have a busy day at work so I don’t have time to tend to his nonsense, especially at a time like this.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 07 07 at 09:02 AM • permalinkBBC: 4 confirmed dead, 150 “seriously injured”
From the statemet by the Arab website, claiming responsibility: “Heroic mujahedeens carried out a sacred attack in London, and here is Britain burning in fear, terror, and fright in the north, south, east and west.”
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I am live blogging this event. Thanks to all of you who have emailed and IMed me about this concerned for my welfare.
Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2005 07 07 at 09:28 AM • permalinkLondon has been bombed before, and by people far better at it than these clowns, London will go on.
Hopefully these deaths will not be pointless and will alert others to the fact that it is a war.
Posted by Harry Buttle on 2005 07 07 at 10:07 AM • permalinkMy condolences to the British people over the latest act of terrorism. They’ve lived through much worse before and, like the US, this will only strengthen the resolve of the adults.
Too bad the “live” in Live-8 didn’t rhyme with sit instead of site. A sad irony is that the G-8 is no longer about Africa.
If the bastards are caught somewhere in the world by US troops, at least Senator Durbin will ensure that their cells are kept in a comfortable range between 72-85 degrees Farhenheit. Maybe we should close Guantanamo and open a detention center at the Thule Air Base in Greenland instead.
Forget Greenland. Make it Death Valley.
And let that creep Durbin clean their chamberpots.
Posted by Ken Summers on 2005 07 07 at 10:42 AM • permalinkAnd how about we keep the cheap politics out of this for at least the first little bit?
The overwhelming majority of apologists for Muslim atrocities can be found on the Left, and as unfortunate as it is, that doesn’t just include the clinically insane DUers and Kos Kids, but also plenty of ignorant and/or confused multi-culti feel-good politicians like Livingstone. Criticizing them for it isn’t a matter of “cheap politics”, it’s one of highlighting those who unwittingly give aid and comfort to the enemy (there, I’ve said it), and frankly, sensible center-left folks like you should be the first to assail these people for their actions (or inactions).
This isn’t a mere policy disagreement, discussion of which would be considered distasteful under the circumstances - it’s a war, and speaking out against those who impede the destruction of the terrorists through their rhetoric becomes imperative. Fuck politeness.
PM John Howard on SMH this morning,“Mr Howard said the series of blasts targeting London’s underground and bus networks would not affect Australia’s involvement in Iraq.”
Does he think that these London bombs are linked to the Iraq invasion? And therefore our involvement in the invasion of Iraq puts us in danger? Now why would illegally invading a country, basing the whole thing on lies, killing thousands upon thousands, shock and awing millions of people into the stone age put us at risk? -I just can’t figure out these camel jockeys, rag heads….Darker compexioned people stay in-doors. Especially turban wearers..That means you too Mr Singh!
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Hey guys, watch it with those long urls. If they are very long they screw up the page layout which can be a problem for people with smaller screens. If worst comes to worst, try using the “code” tag and break it up into sections, like this:
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longurlpart2Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 07 07 at 08:03 PM • permalinkHey, I also updated the PMcode guide link. They’d moved it at the Expression Engine site and I wasn’t aware. OK, Admin OT over.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 07 07 at 08:05 PM • permalinkorang, I think you need to get out more.
Illegally invading? The US Congress authorized the use of military force to enforce 18 UN resolutions. Do you have an actual law to cite to make it illegal?
basing the whole thing on lies? Could you please cite one actual lie? Thousands of lefties scream “Bush Lied!” but not one has cited a single lie.
killing thousands upon thousands? Well, that’s kind of the nature of war. Regrettable when they’re civilians, regrettable when they’re our military people, applaudable when they’re Islamoscum.
shock and awing millions of people into the stone age? The Iraqi GDP grew by 51.7% in 2004. That’s some stone age. Yeah, GDP took a hit in 2003, but 2004 is still higher than 2002 (you know, before the invasion?)
Posted by Ken Summers on 2005 07 07 at 08:48 PM • permalinkApparently you didn’t read what I wrote. Try it again:
“The Iraqi GDP grew by 51.7% in 2004. That’s some stone age. Yeah, GDP took a hit in 2003, but 2004 is still higher than 2002 (you know, before the invasion?)”
What part of “higher than 2002” wasn’t clear?
And if you look at the numbers in the link link more carefully, you’ll see that the Iraqi GDP was declining between 2000 and 2003:
KEY ECONOMIC RATIOS and LONG-TERM TRENDS
2000 2001 2002 2003e 2004p
31.8 27.9 18.4 12.1 21.1The 2004 total exports is the highest since before 2000:
TRADE (in millions US$)
2000 2001 2002 2003e 2004p
14,289 11,041 9,990 9,711 16,543Yeah, they’re back in the stone age, boy. Apologies if the columns don’t line up well, but I trust you can figure out that Iraqi exports are the highest they’ve been in years. No wonder 75% of Iraqis believe Iraq is better off after the US removed Saddam Hussein.
Posted by Ken Summers on 2005 07 07 at 10:55 PM • permalinkOh, and before you try to blame any terrorism in Australia on Bush, I seem to recall that Muslim terrorists had a bit of a problem with the East Timor situation.
Posted by Ken Summers on 2005 07 07 at 11:01 PM • permalinkYou like rape and pillage? No wonder you oppose the soldiers killing the Islamofucks who are raping and pillaging.
Gawd you’re an ass.
Posted by Ken Summers on 2005 07 08 at 08:59 AM • permalink
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I just heard another explosion reported - I don’t know if that was included in your count.