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NYT’S PROBLEM
Iowa Voice reports:
On March 18, the New York Times published this story about female soldiers who served in Iraq and are now having problems as a result.
One of the women mentioned in the story claims to have been sexually assaulted and that she suffers severe mental problems as a result of being deployed to Iraq ...
One problem though: she never was sent to Iraq. She was in Guam the whole time.
Her next appearance? Probably in a Terry Lane column.
Either a Lane column or a Reuters photo…
Posted by SwinishCapitalist on 2007 03 25 at 09:43 AM • permalinkfake but accurate???
As a veteran, I can say that those who talk the most about the horrors of war usually saw the least. The more shit they talk the more likely it is they’re lying.
“Hey man, I was special black-ops, green beret, navy seal, ranger detachment in Lau ling ding dong nang dam phoo phoo, I was there man….”
Dan Rather did a story many years ago with supposed Vietnam vets that claimed truly horrific things, turns out they were never there. No internet to nail him back then though.
Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 03 25 at 09:57 AM • permalinkDoesn’t Murtha want the troops redeployed to Okinawa and Guam? Pro-rape bastard. Still, maybe Tawana Brawley and the Duke lacrosse team accuser can be made generals in charge of the operation? I’m sure they could use the work.
Posted by andycanuck on 2007 03 25 at 10:09 AM • permalinkLying bastards who falsely claim honourable military service are beneath contempt, especially when they denigrate the service of those who did serve honourably and make false accusations of war crimes that never occurred in places they never served.
Not confined to the US, regretfully.
Check out this fake veteran. RSL (Returned Services League) Branch President, no less.
Old Tanker (#4) nails it, the bigger the bullshit artist, the bigger the war stories.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2007 03 25 at 10:48 AM • permalink#9 RebeccaH
Of course the rape stories are now suspect (sorry to say) Why she wouldn’t report them right away is beyond me, the military takes these things VERY seriously.
#10 GPE
Hell, you spelled Iraq right, better get the Times on the phone right away!!
#11 Pedro
And they’re almost always REMF’s too…..
Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 03 25 at 11:06 AM • permalinkI’m sorry, the more I read this story from the Times, the more it SCREAMS bullshit, I gotta leave this one alone before I get pissed. I actually saw combat and I have no idea what these people are talking about…...
Posted by Old Tanker on 2007 03 25 at 11:15 AM • permalinkEither the NYT didn’t even bother to try to verify these stories…
...or it did and wilfully published a lie…
...either way, since they are obviously incapable of shame and embarassment, we’ll just have to be ashamed and embarrassed for them. Loudly.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 03 25 at 11:29 AM • permalinkEither the NYT didn’t even bother to try to verify these stories…
Their attempt at verification was to contact someone at the Pentagon three days before the story went to press. Then they based the official response on a preliminary search of records. What they were hoping for was the Pentagon to take longer to respond, so the story could go to print reading “the Pentagon had no response to these charges”.
It’s the latest activist press trick to appear even-handed while still getting the spin they want.
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2007 03 25 at 11:39 AM • permalinkAs a member of the MSM for the past 40 years, I think some of the conspiracy mongering (here and elsewhere) is overwrought.
But I gotta say that the Times magazine editor is incompetent. Considering how many times gullible reporters have been caught out by phony war stories (No Gun Ri, Burkett’s ‘Stolen Valor’), any editor in 2007 who says it wouldn’t help to make ‘perfunctory’ checks obviously is out to lunch.
Posted by Harry Eagar on 2007 03 25 at 02:36 PM • permalinkHmmmm.
1. No shit. There I was with Leonidas at Thermopylae ...
lol.
2. When I was a Marine private my company got a new company commander who was supposedly transferred in from Marine Recon. Which is a fairly big deal because everyone expects someone transferring into a regular unit from Marine Recon to be polished, tight and very very fit.
So the guy shows up with “Recon” plastered on every damn thing you can imagine, makes a big deal out of coming in from Marine Recon and it turns out that he was just a big turd. A REMF officer who was in charge of administrative BS in a Marine Recon unit. So yes, technically, he did come in *from* a Marine Recon unit. But never actually was Recon.
Which we all kinda figured out the very first morning of our daily 3 mile PT run when he fell out of formation after 0.5 miles because he was a lard-ass. Hell even the shitbirds could run the full 3 miles even if they were puking at the end.
So yeah I’d have to agree. The more talk, the less walk.
3. What kind of nutcase needs to *ask* other people if they’ve been in Iraq?
Wouldn’t the memory of 130+ degree heat be a real clue?
Posted by memomachine on 2007 03 25 at 02:37 PM • permalinkThe editor of the [New York Times Sunday] magazine, Gerry Marzorati, said he now suspects Randall was never in Iraq.
“I think she thinks she was in Iraq,” he said. “I don’t think she was trying to pull the wool over our eyes.”
I want her, Micah Wright, and Jesse Macbeth to form a superteam.
Posted by Jim Treacher on 2007 03 25 at 06:09 PM • permalinkBut really, doesn’t this fake story speak to a larger, more important truth? Let’s not allow the fact that this story is a lie distract us from the more important work of delegitimizing the savage ethic that accompanies Chimperialism the world over.
Posted by Jeffersonian on 2007 03 25 at 07:57 PM • permalinkAt the Hollywood anniversary march, this dirtbag showed up wearing a class A uniform blouse, PFC stripes, his rifle and grenade marksmanship medals and enough fruit salad for a CSM. He was trying to tell us about all the shit he saw and all his friends who died. I asked him how he could have seen all that shit and lost all those friends when he wasn’t even wearing a CIB (combat infantryman’s badge). He MovedOn, as it were…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2007 03 25 at 08:07 PM • permalinkMendacity definition, Answers. com.
men·dac·i·ty (mĕn-dăs’ĭ-tē) pronunciation
n., pl. -ties.1. The condition of being mendacious; untruthfulness.
2. A lie; a falsehood.... “Unfortunately, we live in a society where untruthfulness is routinely accepted and even mandated by politicians, union leaders, and members of the press. New York is the headquarters of the biggest producer of mendacity, the New York Times.”
Her boyfriend is running a close second. Did you see his comments? He’s saying, ” so she made a mistake about where she was, that shouldn’t matter/” !?!?!
How in Satan’s unholy name do make a mistake about whether you have or have not been in a war zone?
So the standards for lucidity and truth are running this low now?
No sh*t, there I was…
Okay, I *wasn’t* but in ‘91 I transfered to a new shop and another new pcs and I would be about half under a desk every time there was a sonic boom that rattled the windows and doors. Well, I sort of flinched in the general direction of “under the desk” and he’d take a step before catching himself. I’d been in the PI when Pinatubo blew. He’d been in Saudi. It took me a week to adjust. Him, maybe a little more. I’d expect someone used to daily mortars to take quite a bit longer.
I don’t get the premise of the article. Women have PTS? Well, duh. So do guys. Our people coming back, either gender, talk about being nervous in crowds and flinching at noises and having nightmares and stuff. It’s normal. And it’s even normal to have worse reactions and to need help to get over or otherwise learn to deal with them. No one should be made a spectacle of because they have persistent post deployment issues or need help.
I hate articles about this kind of thing because it only serves to increase the stigma of not adjusting seamlessly to returning home. Men came home from WW2 and Korea and had flashbacks and nightmares for the rest of their lives. They didn’t talk about it, but I don’t think they thought they had a “condition” either.
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