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NOT MORE RADICAL THAN JOHN PILGER

US-born Muslim leader Sheik Khalid Yasin, currently raising funds to open an Islamic television network in Australia, offers his intriguing views on:

MULTICULTURALISM: “How can you put a sacred trust in the hands of a non-Muslim? There’s no such thing as a Muslim having a non-Muslim friend.”

FASHION: “If you prefer the clothing of the kafirs over the clothing of the Muslims, most of those names that’s on most of those clothings is faggots, homosexuals and lesbians.”

SEPTEMBER 11: “We now know that the way that the World Trade Center fell the way that those buildings fell — they fell from internal explosive charges, the same way it’s done in a construction site.”

AIDS: “An AIDS virus, that is a classic disease that was created in Fort McKinley, United States. Fort McKinley, the AIDS virus, 63,000 gallons ... Missionaries from the World Health Organisation and Christian groups went into Africa and inoculated people for diphtheria, malaria, yellow fever and they put in the medicine the AIDS virus.”

HIMSELF: “Some people characterise me as a radical cleric. I’m not more radical than Mahatma Gandhi or John Pilger or Jesus Christ.”

(via Brian Miller)

Posted by Tim B. on 10/10/2005 at 11:38 AM
  1. Becuase my views are Friibit friibit my ganglion ganglion is not wubble wubble.
    What a loon

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2005 10 10 at 12:47 PM • permalink

  2. Ok, John Doyle, do you understand the “why”, now? It’s because they’re FREAKIN’ CRAZY!!!

    Posted by paco on 2005 10 10 at 12:53 PM • permalink

  3. I have to say, this message is growing on me.  It’s gone from being batshit crazy to merely hilariously stupid.

    Posted by Mike G on 2005 10 10 at 01:00 PM • permalink

  4. I’m not more radical than Mahatma Gandhi or John Pilger or Jesus Christ.

    Damn, I’ve got to clean my screen now…

    Posted by Mr. Bingley on 2005 10 10 at 01:18 PM • permalink

  5. Ironically, my reaction was the same as the last two words of the post -

    “Jesus Christ!”

    Posted by Parker on 2005 10 10 at 01:20 PM • permalink

  6. Faggots, lesbians, *and* homosexuals.  Well, he certainly believes in diversity!

    Speaking as a lesbian, any gay person who makes excuses for Islamism needs a good hard smack.  And not in an enjoyable, S&M sort of way, either.

    Posted by Susan Ivanova on 2005 10 10 at 01:22 PM • permalink

  7. He’s a natural for Margo’s site.  Perhaps if she diversifies into broadcast.

    Posted by R C Dean on 2005 10 10 at 01:23 PM • permalink

  8. I hate to agree with this turd but he really ISN’T more radical than Pilger you know

    Posted by Pogue Mahone on 2005 10 10 at 01:28 PM • permalink

  9. Certain elements of this nutjob’s worldview are sure to find their way into the Democratic platform for ‘08.

    Posted by Latino on 2005 10 10 at 01:31 PM • permalink

  10. Does that include lending money to a muslim? For the purchase of drugs? to support global jihad??
    Not that I personaly know of a connection (much less jihad than mebad) between some chaps from Chistmas island and Oz…

    Posted by thefrollickingmole on 2005 10 10 at 01:44 PM • permalink

  11. I started to understand class and I started reading things and I developing inside of myself a distaste for issues of exploitation and oppression — Nicaragua and Panama and Honduras, South Africa and apartheid — and started to understand what those words meant.

    Interesting how he dates his conversion to radical Islamic fundamentalism to about the same time as what appears to have been his conversion to Marxism, and his burgeoning interest in the fashionable left issues of the 80’s. I guess a philosophy that preaches that men who want to change the world don’t just think or write, don’t just argue with their opponents--they greet intellectual opposition not with words but with swords--can be forgiven for suggesting at the same time that Mr. Yasin’s religious faith is an ‘opiate’.

    Posted by alyosha on 2005 10 10 at 01:50 PM • permalink

  12. I’m not more radical than Mahatma Gandhi or John Pilger or Jesus Christ.

    Gee, I don’t remember Jesus calling anyone a faggot.

    But it is sad that some of his other opinions are really the same ones held by elements of the left. Through my brief association with radial AIDS activists in the 90s, I can tell you that I’ve heard the very same explanation for the genesis of AIDS proposed by college-educated westerners, usually also invoking Ronald Reagan as the initiator of the AIDS manufacturing project.

    And downtown New York is currently plastered with professionally printed stickers calling 9/11 an “inside job”. These people know what they are doing. Sow doubt in the minds of the ill informed and superstitious, and you’ve got a fertile field in which to grow all manner of foul crops. (see Salem, Massachusetts, 1692, the Inquisition, Germany, 1930s, et al)

    Posted by goldsmith on 2005 10 10 at 02:01 PM • permalink

  13. I hear more of this crap from the Muslim community in America than I do anything resembling reason and moderation.  My hitherto tolerant acceptance of Muslims has become:  “If you want to practice Islam in my country, I won’t treat you as an enemy; neither will I trust you as a friend.”

    Posted by RebeccaH on 2005 10 10 at 02:34 PM • permalink

  14. SEPTEMBER 11: “We now know that the way that the World Trade Center fell the way that those buildings fell — they fell from internal explosive charges, the same way it’s done in a construction site.”

    That would explain the general dismay with which the World Trade Center’s fall was greeted throughout the muslim world. When muslims are upset, they ululate and hand out candies.

    They don’t?

    Never mind.

    Posted by ErnieG on 2005 10 10 at 02:35 PM • permalink

  15. ”...most of those names that’s on most of those clothings is faggots, homosexuals and lesbians.”

    Levi Strauss was a wha...???

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 10 10 at 03:04 PM • permalink

  16. BTW, isn’t a Muslim referring to Jesus as “Christ” admitting his divinity?

    I’m thoroughly boggled.

    Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 10 10 at 03:06 PM • permalink

  17. Ernie, it’s the same logic that has them thinking that Osama is a great man for the magnificent 9/11 attack that he, er, didn’t have anything to do with. The only two possible conclusions are: Moslems are liars, or Moslems are insane.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 10 10 at 03:07 PM • permalink

  18. Hey, orang and nemesis and slammer and the rest:

    Take your hands away from your eyes, take the cotton out of your ears, stop humming, and read this post again. Now tell us how we have to have a dialogue with these people to find out what their grievances are.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 10 10 at 03:12 PM • permalink

  19. Hey, he isn’t more radical than Jesus.

    More vile, sure. But not more radical.

    Because, well, Jesus was pretty radical. What with that whole abandon-your-old-life-and-follow-me thing, you know.

    Posted by Sigivald on 2005 10 10 at 03:17 PM • permalink

  20. (Oh, and of course, he’s batshit loony wrong about the WTC, unless by “we” he means “me and my pals” and by “know” he means “really want you to believe we think that” - as I suspect very strongly he is lying here, though I cannot, of course, prove it, unless someone wants to lend me a CIA mind-reader.)

    Posted by Sigivald on 2005 10 10 at 03:19 PM • permalink

  21. Dave S.:

    Part of the problem is those guys (orang et al) agree with some of what Yasin is saying.

    Posted by david on 2005 10 10 at 03:21 PM • permalink

  22. Praise Allah he didn’t mention my dogs.

    C’mon Fido - let’s go get some bacon treats!

    Posted by RainDog on 2005 10 10 at 04:13 PM • permalink

  23. Some people characterise me as a radical cleric
    And some people characterise me as a gangsta of love....

    Posted by SoCalJustice on 2005 10 10 at 04:34 PM • permalink

  24. Courtesy of Honest Reporting, I see that Melbourne’s Age newspaper has just been studied and found wanting. Hardly suprising, you may think, but here it’s caught in flagrante delicto.

    “The Age newspaper does not adhere to required journalistic standards, as determined by its own and other established external codes, in its reporting on the Arab - Israeli conflict.

    This report has shown that The Age contained numerous violations of impartial journalistic standards and expectations and that the reporting is consistently and overwhelmingly one-sided. The probability that this occurs by chance is exceedingly small.

    The Age has failed in its obligations to be a fair and impartial reporter of the Arab - Israeli conflict with its violations being detrimental to the Israeli side.”

    Check out: http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/reports/pdf/The_Age_Newspap_version2.pdf

    Posted by Tony on 2005 10 10 at 04:34 PM • permalink

  25. I think you should deport him as Australia’s way of observing Ramadan.

    Posted by Aaron - Freewill on 2005 10 10 at 05:16 PM • permalink

  26. It’s easy to see why his sort of Muslims wouldn’t have any non-Muslim friends.

    Posted by Assistant Village Idiot on 2005 10 10 at 05:42 PM • permalink

  27. They’re like the Nazis, who both celebrate and deny the Holocaust at the same time.

    Posted by Tasman on 2005 10 10 at 06:24 PM • permalink

  28. I’m not more radical than… Jesus Christ.

    I’m offended and I call for a fatwa. The extreme punishment will being locked in the Sydney’s Museum of Contemporary Art with Moronika’s paintings.

    -- Jihad Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 10 10 at 06:25 PM • permalink

  29. Exegesis Crushed!
    This man is keener than the average manichean.

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 10 10 at 06:29 PM • permalink

  30. Why I reckon Yasin, this hundehaufen for brains, must be John Pillockager’s wet dream.

    Posted by pick-your-pun on 2005 10 10 at 07:20 PM • permalink

  31. Clerics who talk like this are just waiting for the day…

    and that day will come.

    Mayhaps they should visit Dresden first...the decadent west has been known to defend it’s comfy chair with extreme violence now and again. 

    Payback can be permanent.

    Posted by trainer on 2005 10 10 at 07:25 PM • permalink

  32. Homophobic and anti-multiculturalist? C’mon guys, surely he’s preaching to the choir here?!

    Posted by scuffs on 2005 10 10 at 07:48 PM • permalink

  33. So based on the logic of “islam” so far - Katrina was gods way of killing homosexuals & evil USA infidels for their acts against moslems so therefore, the earthquake in mainly moslem countries (see also Tsunami)is gods way of saying dont laugh at others misfortune or you didnt laugh enough.

    Posted by dino on 2005 10 10 at 08:05 PM • permalink

  34. US-born

    Would you like him back..?

    Posted by CraigS on 2005 10 10 at 08:17 PM • permalink

  35. Homophobic and anti-multiculturalist? C’mon guys, surely he’s preaching to the choir here?!

    Not homophobic, but definitely anti-multiculturist (defined as, “thinks a philosophy that says Western=bad, non-Western=good is incredibly fucking stupid.")

    So, maybe just preaching to the baritones.

    Oh, and fuck off.

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 10 10 at 08:28 PM • permalink

  36. Would you like him back..?
    Are we allowed to count Guantanamo?
    Posted by Aaron - Freewill on 2005 10 10 at 08:33 PM • permalink

  37. KNOCK KNOCK.

    Who’s there?

    orang.

    orang who?

    orang you glad my head exploded while trying to figure out how Muslims have legitimate grievances with the West over “non-Muslims” and “faggots”?

    Posted by Dave S. on 2005 10 10 at 08:44 PM • permalink

  38. I would just bet that Sheik Khalid Yasin was just a smuck that couldn’t play sports well, didn’t make good grades, couldn’t get elected Class President, and couldn’t get a date with the cute girl, or anyone for that matter.

    For once in his life, instilling hatred and waging jihad makes him feel like a real man.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 10 10 at 08:45 PM • permalink

  39. #32. There’s a big difference between disapproval of homosexuality and wanting to throw rocks at them until they’re dead.

    Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 10 10 at 09:06 PM • permalink

  40. Would you like him back..?

    Are we allowed to count Guantanamo?

    Works for me…

    Posted by CraigS on 2005 10 10 at 09:08 PM • permalink

  41. What a shame there are no blashphemy laws in Australia, to properly pay this swine for that slander on Jesus.  In the Muslim countries he favors such laws exist, as they would in an Ozrabia run by the sheik.  It would be only fair.

    Posted by Michael Lonie on 2005 10 10 at 09:41 PM • permalink

  42. #24 Tony - That report is very old and was issued shortly after writing. You will see not a lot (if anything) has changed.

    Posted by Dan Lewis on 2005 10 10 at 09:52 PM • permalink

  43. Totally totally OT, but it has to be said. Margoyle’s new home is at “wwww.webdiary.com.au”. Yes, it is not a typo.

    She is so inept, she cant even get the web address right on her own site! It must be those crazy zionists who are controlling the media.

    Posted by captain on 2005 10 10 at 10:05 PM • permalink

  44. Additional OT - Haaa, haaaa, haaaa,

    We will be funding that period by an offer of shares in Webdiary Pty Ltd - currently wholly owned by Margo. A Prospectus is in draft, and will be published on Webdiary simultaneously with its despatch to those who have already expressed an interest.

    haaaa, haaa, haaa - junk shares anyone?

    -- Nora

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 10 10 at 10:34 PM • permalink

  45. It’s working too! The rate of infant vaccination in Islamic countries has fallen significantly due to Sheik Yasin-style paranoia. I guess the West will have to pick up the bill for that too, somewhere along the track.

    Fascinating isn’t it that an extremist like Yasin quotes John Pilger, don’t you think? I wonder how much Pilger-style bile Mohammed Atta and his cohorts were exposed to while they lived in Hamburg? I wonder if Atta ever said to himself something like, “well I guess if Westerners are saying it too, what Sheik Osama says must be true!”

    Posted by Brian on 2005 10 10 at 10:51 PM • permalink

  46. Whyners take note:
    It’s not Iraq, nor East Timor, it’s booze and bikinis

    Posted by slammer on 2005 10 10 at 10:52 PM • permalink

  47. DISCUSSION GROUP PARTICIPANT: Basically people look at Muslims these days with the wrong scope. They look at us like we’re criminals, people who want to see destruction and things like that.

    You think?

    Well, I blame the MSM for making me think there are a lot of Muslims who would blow themselves up just to kill me! Just look at all of their false reports of suicide exploders around the world.

    Posted by rinardman on 2005 10 10 at 11:01 PM • permalink

  48. More WD OT -

    Web guru Robert Woodhead calls this “tipping” - buy the barman a drink at Club Chaos - if you think Webdiary has value to you, send us what you think it is worth.

    Any ideas on how I can get my dog to squat over a tupperware container?

    Posted by HC44 on 2005 10 10 at 11:06 PM • permalink

  49. As a bit of light-satire Roy and HG have had their moments. I used to love listening to their League commentary on JJJ. And they were sublime during the Sydney 2000 Olympics. However, since then they have proven that their 15 minutes have well and truly expired.

    The excerable “Marking Time” mined new depths of manipulation and exploitation of a complex issue that the incurably politically correct bourgeois-left ABC can not and WILL not allow itself to view through the eyes of the majority of Australians. And let’s noty even mention the unspeakable “Memphis Trousers”, which is half and hour too long!

    One observation that caught my attention was his damning of “Big Brother and his suggested way to improve it:

    “Big Brother is a waste of an opportunity. The housemates live in a state of perpetual boredom, unless they’re pissed. Why not engage them. A house of really smart gifted young people from various fields: scientists, engineers, mathematicians, builders, a Latin scholar, a poet etc and they have a problem to solve. With a shared incentive of a few million dollars they have to find a solution to Australia’s water problems in ten weeks – there’s a show.” Doyle suggested.

    Compare that with the cynical bandwagon-jumping of ubiquitous “Media Tart” Associate Professor Catharine Lumby, who has decreed that far from being a banal sexploitaion of vulnerable young girls by capitalist dirty old men, a banality excoriated by our Favourite Raving Old Bat, Germaine Greer,

    “[Germaine Greer] is also absolutely wrong, as demonstrated by extensive research I conducted with Professor Elspeth Probyn into young women’s attitudes to the media.

    In our three-year research project, Big Brother emerged as one of the most popular shows with girls aged 12 to 18. And why did they love it? Because they face a lot of the same dilemmas as the housemates. They are constantly under surveillance from parents, teachers and experts. They spend a lot of time trying to work out how to be an individual while fitting into a group. And they wonder a lot about how far you should go in telling other people what you think of them.”

    The Ethical Goddess thundered from her Fairfax pulpit

    I shall be publishing my banned Webdiary article tomrrow, where such issues will be touched on. On what constitutes “research” in “Cultural Studies” we can only wonder.

    Given the orgy of deification for the rather John Doyle by the ABC Usual Suspects, perhaps I should expect a Pulitzer Prize for my own modest musings.

    Posted by Noelenet on 2005 10 10 at 11:16 PM • permalink

  50. They appear to be sort of exploding Jehovah’s Witnesses.

    Posted by rhhardin on 2005 10 10 at 11:41 PM • permalink

  51. #49- On what constitutes “research” in “Cultural Studies” we can only wonder.

    Loaded questions designed to confirm preconceptions, no doubt.  Science with no rules; what fun. 

    Where can we read your article?

    Posted by slammer on 2005 10 10 at 11:58 PM • permalink

  52. Clerics who talk like this are just waiting for the day…

    and that day will come.

    Mayhaps they should visit Dresden first...the decadent west has been known to defend it’s comfy chair with extreme violence now and again. 

    A view of Hiroshima might also be to the point.

    Posted by Susan Norton on 2005 10 11 at 01:32 AM • permalink

  53. #6 Susan

    Speaking as a lesbian, any gay person who makes excuses for Islamism needs a good hard smack. And not in an enjoyable, S&M sort of way, either.

    Heh, trust a lesbian to qualify their statement like that. :)

    Posted by RhikoR on 2005 10 11 at 03:06 AM • permalink

  54. #4, #28, LOL!

    “Some people characterise me as a radical cleric. I’m not more radical than Mahatma Gandhi or John Pilger or Jesus Christ.”

    At least he didn’t say he is bigger than Jesus!

    Posted by anthony27 on 2005 10 11 at 03:56 AM • permalink

  55. You are now entering the Twilight Zone.

    Da-da, Da-da, Da-da, Da-da ...

    Posted by Inurbanus on 2005 10 11 at 05:18 AM • permalink

  56. Scuffs, not true.

    I’m not a homophobe - some of my best friends are poofs.

    As for multiculturalism, well it has its problems, but Australia is a very successful multicultural country.

    Posted by Major Anya on 2005 10 11 at 06:40 AM • permalink

  57. Sorry Darlene, Australia was a very successful multicultural country.

    However, turning naturally occuring multiculturalism into mandated social policy poisoned it.

    -- Nick

    Posted by The Thin Man Returns on 2005 10 11 at 07:16 AM • permalink

  58. Well at least we can hope Howard won’t ask this scumbag to advise him on Muslim matters as Blair as done with a UK-based radical loon. Course this fool makes Ken Livingston’s bud Al Qaradawi seem a bit more reasonable.

    Posted by Andrew Ian Dodge on 2005 10 11 at 07:29 AM • permalink

  59. Fight for the sake of God those that fight against you, but do not attack them first. God does not love the aggressors. Slay them wherever you find them. Drive them out of the places from which they drove you. Idolatry is more grievous than bloodshed… but if they desist, God is forgiving and merciful. Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God’s religion reigns supreme. (Sura 2.190-193)

    Here’s a quote from the Koran which might explain why Khalid Yasin is so keen to portray the Australian community at large as the aggressor.

    We won’t begin to deal with these guys until we start saying publicly that that Mohammad himself was wrong and that the Jihad he commanded was wrong and has always been wrong.

    Posted by AndrewM on 2005 10 11 at 08:53 AM • permalink

  60. At least this guy defends his own misguided culture - which is more than you can say about Pilger, who would trash in a minute the very system, culture and society that gives him the chance to speak his mind freely.

    Posted by Flying Giraffe on 2005 10 11 at 09:31 AM • permalink

  61. SARAH FERGUSON: “...The issue is that he’s claimed to have those qualifications. I’ve checked. He doesn’t. Does that concern you?”
    WALID ALI, MANAGING DIRECTOR ISLAMIC BROADCASTING GROUP: “I would really need to understand why he would make those claims if they weren’t true."

    Err… Perhaps because he’s a liar?

    Another whyner moment.

    Posted by HisHineness on 2005 10 11 at 10:01 AM • permalink

  62. Didn’t John Lennon say something like that? “The Beatles are now more radical than Jesus Christ or John Pilger.”

    After that I burned the White Album. Not because of what he said, just that it deserved burnin’.

    Posted by Monroe Doctrine on 2005 10 11 at 02:35 PM • permalink

  63. Good point, Nick.

    True of most things.

    As I said multiculturalism has its problems, but most Australians - regardless of background - live together quite happily. There is a distinction between social policy and the way people live their lives.

    They do so without making a big fuss about it as well.

    Posted by Major Anya on 2005 10 11 at 05:08 PM • permalink

  64. Would you like him back..?

    I’m thinking halfway.  Drop the cargo door on the C-130 over Midway and pull a steep climb.  If he makes it ashore, give him a ticket for the rest of the trip…

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 10 11 at 07:45 PM • permalink

  65. Yeah #62, disturbing that Pilger has been elevated to Christlike status.

    Posted by Big Johnny on 2005 10 11 at 08:28 PM • permalink

  66. Big Johnny—We should put it to the test.  I’ll get the hammer.

    Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 10 11 at 08:42 PM • permalink

  67. I mentioned to a friend the other day that the G&L Mardi Gras would be a prime candidate for a terrorist attack because of so many people in such a small area, and the emnity that the Islamofascists hold for that community. I was promptly informed that I was completely off base and that Al-Quaida had nothing against them. Looks like my original assessment now stands. Those who think we can avoid being targetted just by saying nasty things about G.W. Bush and the Yanks are in for a surprise. If they want the freedoms to express themselves as they wish then they better get on side. We are all of us in this together.

    Posted by Arnaudinoz on 2005 10 11 at 09:33 PM • permalink

  68. Richard, that was bad.  And that was good.

    (still laughing out loud)

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 10 11 at 09:41 PM • permalink

  69. The Islamists want the following:

    1.  all governments to be Islamic
    2.  one overall sultanate, under the rule of a Walhabist Muslim
    3.  no democracy anywhere
    4.  a strictly patriarchal society
    5.  women stay in the home
    6.  women stay out of the work force
    7.  women know and stay in their place, specifically in the home tending house, taking care of the children, and willing and eager to perform bedroom duties
    8.  if women need to go outside the home, they be covered from head to feet, completely
    9.  one religion
    10. no homosexuality, anywhere
    11. no liberal thoughts or actions
    12. all men must wear a beard and wear conservative attire

    If you don’t believe in or follow any of the above, you are in violation of their beliefs and are deserving of death.  And ironically, you are part of the root causes of their attack against the West.

    Posted by wronwright on 2005 10 11 at 09:50 PM • permalink

  70. Well, he’s not more radical than Jesus. Just more wrong and despicable.

    Posted by Nathan on 2005 10 12 at 08:29 PM • permalink

  71. Wearing a long nightshirt down the street is conservative?

    Posted by blogstrop on 2005 10 12 at 11:28 PM • permalink

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