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Australian treasurer Peter Costello:
If you are somebody who wants to live in an Islamic state governed by sharia law you are not going to be happy in Australia, because Australia is not an Islamic state, will never be an Islamic state and will never be governed by sharia law.
We are a secular state under our constitution, our law is made by parliament elected in democratic elections.
We do not derive our laws from religious instruction.
There are Islamic states around the world that practise sharia law and if that’s your object you may well be much more at home in such a country than trying to turn Australia into one of those countries, because it’s not going to happen.
The first paragraph of this should be displayed in the arrivals areas of Australian airports.
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It is amusing, in a twisted sort of way, that the multicultis who will scream “racist”, would be among the first to feel the sting of Shariah law.Death to atheists, for start.
No tv, no cinema, no museums, no art galleries, no booze, no adultery, no same-sex relationships ....
And extra tax for Infidels.
Posted by pog-ma-thon on 2005 11 10 at 05:05 AM • permalinkNow that is a very, very interesting thing to say. Even more interesting was how it was said, and the ramifications of it.
Costello is starting to break away from his Treasury role in some interesting ways. He stays within the boundaries of policy, and is articulating his own views.
Very interesting indeed.
MarkL
CanberraI’m interested in what the reactions will be from the flaccid left.
Comments from the left about ‘targetting Muslims’ in 5…4…3…2…
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 11 10 at 05:49 AM • permalink#2
”...would be among the first to feel the sting of Shariah law”Indeed. There are so many issues on which the left pride themselves as holding the moral high ground; gay rights, racism, women’s rights, abortion, religious freedom, etc.
Ironically, all are causes that are reviled by the group the left is seeking to defend - muslims.
The hypocrisy is astounding.
Posted by HisHineness on 2005 11 10 at 05:55 AM • permalinkThe left of course would have a hard time attacking such a common sense message.
I wager they won’t even try. Instead we’ll get the smart-ass
” i thought we already derived our laws from religious instruction”
and will point to Tony Abbott and the abortion debate, Tony Aboott and his proud catholicism and closeness to Cardinal Pell, the rise of Australia’s “religious right”, Howard’s subservience to fundamentalist Bush etc.
The left are past masters at this type of argument misdirection.
Bugger that.
If only the pagans in Mecca had been better shots, we might have avoided the whole situation….
Ah well, that’ll have to wait for my time machine.
(returns to secret laboratory)
Posted by Quentin George on 2005 11 10 at 06:33 AM • permalinkDo we have another “Man of Steel” emerging from the political shadows?
Well said, Mr Costello.
Plain speaking, straight to the point, no “nuance”. Excellent.Speaking of “straight to the point”, <sarcasm> has anyone heard anything from the Shonky Shake, Al Hilbilly?
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2005 11 10 at 06:39 AM • permalinkGood Aussie candour from Mr Costello. He said something similar a few months back. So did Federal Education Minister Brendan Nelson.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200508/s1445181.htmAs aside. Anyone see this guy on the TV yesterday?
President of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils Dr Ameer Ali said:
`I want to get more information about what has happened over the last 48 hours and secondly I also want the government to assure my community that they will not allow the rednecks in this country to exploit this situation and create disharmony in this society,’’Shameless…always about you aint it. Rednecks are creating disharmony? Hmm, how about the would be Muslim terrorists? How about the Muslim guy shooting at and injuring a police officer?
Peter Costello’s extremist sentiments are fuelling terrorism. We should be a little more compromising.
Why can’t the girls at least try on the burkas if they’re a nice comfy fit and come in today’s colours?
The guy who keyed my reconditioned Monaro last Saturday night does not deserve both hands, in my opinion.
And more. Come on Peter C. be a little more giving in your attitudes.
Successful societies face their enemies squarely, and with one voice. They undermine their leaders and generals at their peril.
http://victorhanson.com/articles/hanson110505.htmlSlammer, could you please provide evidence that Australia’s evangelical churches deny the Holocaust? I think you’ll actually find that the simpatico between evangelical Christianity and Judaism has never been more pronounced at any time in history.
Aren’t you guilty here of a kind of grouchy Godwinian gobbledygook not dissimilar to that typically exemplified by the left? To wit: ‘Oh sure the Treasurer’s right but - pssst - don’t forget he hangs out with Nazis.’
Give me a freaking break.
#11 but Islamic states don’t seem to be magnets for migrants..Anyone see the news footage a few nights back of the fences between Pakistan and Indian earthquake areas where the Indian Border guards were literally shooting above a stream of Pakistan people attempting to cross into India.Presenter explained it by saying “these are people DESPERATE to know the fate of loved ones..Maybe but there didn’t appear to be anyone going the other way..
Peter is beginning to sound like a leader and actually in touch with the people.
Perhaps his apprenticeship hasn’t been such a bad thing,albeit involuntary.Gosh a 7.30 reprise of the “dismissal” displays an inordinately numerous array of ferals.Why didn’t we faithful see that at the time.
Could it have been because of the media’s rose coloured pince nez.CL, the evangelical churches don’t deny the Holocaust; equally, some of them do nothing to discourage the Holocaust-denying (not Nazi) elements within them, for fear of losing paying customers no doubt.
The slur on Costello is yours, not mine: I have no knowledge of the church he attended. Maybe things are rosier over east than they are here in the west.
The first paragraph of this should be displayed in the arrivals areas of Australian airports.
Good idea. Hopefully it will be more effective than the prominently displayed signage in many Asian airports saying “drug trafficking is a capital offence”...
Might I suggest also, the addition of a statement to that effect on all foreign visa applications, providing immediate grounds for deportation should someone be found to have lied on their application.
Cough…Hilaly.
That was a magnificent statement.
I only take issue with “We do not derive our laws from religious instruction.”
Common law—practiced in the English and spinoff countries—is actually a Christian-derived idea, that being the law “written on the heart” is the one to prevail.
As opposed to, say, law handed down by unelected imams and their long-dead, leading militant.
We rule ourselves through our institutions, not the other way around.
That’s about as Christian as it gets.
Posted by Rittenhouse on 2005 11 10 at 08:22 AM • permalinkThe left of course would have a hard time attacking such a common sense message.
The obvious truthfulness of a statement has never protected it from attack by the left.
slammer:
CL, the evangelical churches don’t deny the Holocaust; equally, some of them do nothing to discourage the Holocaust-denying (not Nazi) elements within them, for fear of losing paying customers no doubt.
You realize the same can be said about universities, don’t you?
Posted by Rob Crawford on 2005 11 10 at 08:23 AM • permalinkSlammer,
Why not be more concerned with the fact that “The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion” and “Mein Kampf” both stay high up on the best-sellers list in Muslim nations?
Posted by Cybrludite on 2005 11 10 at 08:55 AM • permalinkLouis Said
There are two proselytising religions, Islam and Christianity. If only the Christians would stop trying to convert muslims.
This IS the problem.
Right Louis
That’s surely why the Islamofascists fly planes into buildings and blow up nightclubs.
Wanker
Posted by swassociates on 2005 11 10 at 09:45 AM • permalinkIf so my apologies, if not “Wanker” is still a nice fit.
Posted by swassociates on 2005 11 10 at 09:58 AM • permalinkRissole has been put on time out. I have no patience for this nonsense today. The rest of you take note.
Slammer: it would be nice if you’d provide some backup in the form of links and articles to your assertions, as well as some idea that you have a smidgen of knowledge about actual Evangelical Christianity versus fake “Christian” cults like the Westboro Baptist Church and the Christian Identity movement.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 11 10 at 10:00 AM • permalinkBlogstrop
it is very romantic to think that successful societies stand united to defend themselves.
And of course it is always the victors that rewrite history.
Listen to BBC Alistair Campbell’s letters from england prior to his departure for the states in the 30s. You will be surprised about how “united” the British were against Adolf and his Nazis.
But of course it took a great man to turn them around and they did prevail in the end.Funny how when Westerners show up in Bali in Bikinis with a drink in their hands they’re accused by the pandering Left of disrupting or intruding upon a ‘traditional culture.’
But when 7th century theocrats show up in the 21st century West demanding legal space for wife beatings and honor killings the same pandering Left demands the West be more accepting and ‘tolerant.’
Can this double standard be any clearer?
Fucking A, Pete! Speak the truth and let the chips fall where they may. The West needs more pols like this guy.
Posted by Spectre765 on 2005 11 10 at 11:13 AM • permalink34 Rittenhouse
Common law—practiced in the English and spinoff countries—is actually a Christian-derived idea, that being the law “written on the heart” is the one to prevail.
I could easily be wrong about this, but doesn’t the “English Common Law” date to the pre-Christian era of Brit history?Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2005 11 10 at 11:40 AM • permalinkdid anyone see the interview on lateline with that mental case Sheikh Omran??? i love the last little bit when Tony Jones was asking him leading questions, almost begging him to say that yes, the Invasion of Iraq would be a prime motivator for young muslims to want to commit terrorist acts…
Tony looked heartbroken and gobsmacked when Omran said “no, social injustice is the cause that would motivate them”... Tony tried again with the last question to ask him again if he was sure Iraq wasn’t a prime motivation (ie have a free kick at the government and john howard) and he again denied it saying it wasn’t an issue….
Poor old Tony didn’t know what to do with himself and quickly wrapped up the interview…. :o)
what a total w@nker with a trasnparent agenda, just like all these ABC refugees from reality…. hard to know if Omran or these clowns are the biggest danger… :o?
That’s not very multicultural of Mr. Costello.
Posted by Moonbat_One on 2005 11 10 at 12:03 PM • permalinkLyn Allison on stripping convicted terrorists of Australian citizenship:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17199323-36596,00.html
“I think we should question this whole policy because it seems to me quite inhumane that we separate people from their families often they don’t even had the language of the country they are going back to.
“In some ways I think we should accept responsibility for the crimes that are committed in this country.”
Accept responsibility for the crimes of others in some ways? Why the change from telling us we should be accepting all responsibility, being the racist imperialist white men we are?
I could easily be wrong about this, but doesn’t the “English Common Law” date to the pre-Christian era of Brit history?
Well, erm, sort of maybe. Common Law by its nature is something that evolves gradually rather than something that is handed down from on high. But English Common Law as a legal system really dates from Henry II in the 12th century.
On the other hand, the main early opponent of Common Law was the Christian Church itself, which until that time had been a major player in the law biz. That led to the whole Becket kerfuffle, and we all know how that turned out.
Union leader backs terror suspect
By Dewi Cooke
November 11, 2005 - 11:21AM
Union leader Dean Mighell has spoken out in support of one of the men swept up in this week’s anti-terror raids.
Mr Mighell, state secretary of the Electrical Trades Union, said he had met apprentice electrician Abdulla Merhi only once, through his brother Omar, who is active in the ETU, but had spoken to workmates who said that Merhi had been a hard worker.
“The guys that work with him just say that he’s a very dedicated apprentice, he’s really committed to his trade, that he’s been very diligent work-wise,” he said. “People have only got good things to say about him in terms of his work and his attitude to his trade.”Pagans
The world outstrips even the fleetest of us:
In the UK they hired a pagan priest to attend three lifers who decided that they were pagans,
yup, definitely, man…what he said…pagans. What do they do, actually? Yeh…OK. We’re that.
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The sad thing is that at least some multicultis will call him a racist for saying these things.