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NIGHTMARE NEVER ENDS
Those sad US progressives who fled to Canada following Bush’s re-election … look what’s happening in their safe left sanctuary:
Conservative Leader Stephen Harper would become prime minister if an election were held today, according to a new Toronto Star poll.
The poll, conducted by EKOS Research Associates, shows the federal Liberals are in a dramatic freefall, even in their usual Ontario stronghold.
The pollster found that only 25 per cent of respondents nationwide would vote today for the Liberals, compared to 36.2 per cent for the Conservatives. The Liberals won a minority government with about 37 per cent of the vote in June 2004.
In Ontario, the Conservatives now lead with 40 per cent of the vote. The Liberals are at 33 per cent.
Where to next? Cuba?
UPDATE. Damian Penny, source of the above link, has still more on the brutish Canadian backwater awaiting sensitive US refugees. Viva Newfies!
But what the polar bears? I mean, if they devour the fleeing lefties, the polar bears might get sick and die. That would be terrible!!!
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 04 11 at 12:33 PM • permalinkWhere to next? Cuba?
North Korea!!!
Posted by Steven Den Beste on 2005 04 11 at 01:32 PM • permalinkIt’s been a while since I’ve lived in Canada, but if Quebec goes solidly for the Liberals, as it always does, then the Tories (or Progressive Conservatives, as they call themselves) will still be out of luck. Besides, the PCs are “conservative” only when compared with, say, Cuba. The refugees from Jesusland are still safe from the hords of pickfork-wielding Christianists.
Posted by Urbs in Horto on 2005 04 11 at 01:35 PM • permalinkSorry Urbs, you’re a bit out of touch. Quebec now goes solidly for the Bloc Quebecois, the federal wing of the PQ.
The Conservative Party is the result of the amalgamation of the PCs and Reform/Canadian Alliance and is a genuine “conservative” party. (Disclosure - I’m a member).
Then there’s the NDP socialist lunatic fringe. An acquaintance recently informed me that he has half a mind to vote NDP in the next election. I observed that he would be in goog company since most people with half a mind are socialists.
We can only hope that the pathetic wankers would move to Cuba. Wonder what Fidel would do with them? Probably treat them really well as a show piece, and they’d be too dumb to notice.
Posted by JorgXMcKie on 2005 04 11 at 02:17 PM • permalinkThey could always man the barricades in Caracas.
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2005 04 11 at 02:55 PM • permalink“. . .and freedom, Willie! Freedom!”
Posted by tachyonshuggy on 2005 04 11 at 04:12 PM • permalinkActually, since we’ve basically had one party rule here in Canada for so long, we’re already more or less like Cuba.
Posted by scaramouche on 2005 04 11 at 06:17 PM • permalinkYou can’t sing Kumbayah with the caribou in Cuba. And now that Canada is turning right, it looks like ANWAR is it.
Think of ANWAR as a GULAG for wayward lefties looking for “alternative energy sources.” The ANWAR solution addresses several problems at once: it provides cheap labor for the drill rigs, it gets the lefties out of our faces (and our voting precincts), and it offers them an opportunity to commune with nature - with a wind chill factor of minus 60.
Why, I have several volunteers already! (I’ll let them know as soon as the Halliburton bus with blacked-out windows arrives.)
In Ontario, the Conservatives now lead with 40 per cent of the vote. The Liberals are at 33 per cent.
I’ll believe that when I see it in an actual election. Talk is cheap, and nobody’s been better at proving that than Ontarians by repeatedly voting Liberal despite allegedly being disgusted with the party.
In Ontario, the Conservatives now lead with 40 per cent of the vote
I agree that Ontarians are all talk when it comes to their dissatisfaction with the Liberals. They’re simply too frightened to let go of their Liberal security blanket.
So despite these numbers, I’d be surprised if their votes would lean that heavily right, especially considering the latest incarnation of the Conservatives is guided primarily by the interests of the Western provinces (or at least that is a common perception).
At any rate, you can always count on some rather pronounced Liberal thrashings here in Alberta!
Nash and PW have it nailed - the federal Liberals could ban underwear and confiscate everyone’s remote controls and many Canadians - most Ontarians, in any case - would still vote for them, as they’ve been told that the Conservatives will kill their dog and force children to pray in school.
Posted by rick mcginnis on 2005 04 11 at 08:21 PM • permalinkRick — No, the conservatives will force their children to pray to the dog…
Poor refugee parlor pinks. They must feel like a Syrian trying to find someplace to park his tank…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 11 at 08:29 PM • permalinkThe actual words Liberals use to scare Canadians away from voting for Stephen Harper is “hidden agenda”. No one knows what that means exactly—revoking abortion rights? making everyone embrace Creationism?—but it sounds ominious enough to ring major alarm bells in this multi-culti dystopia of ours. Dollars to Timbits (a distinctive Canadian pastry—the hole part of the donut)it’ll work again next go round, even if the Gomery Commission reveals that former Prime Minister Jean Chretien sold his soul in a Faustian deal with Mephistopholes himself. The Libs will say, “well, at least Chretien’s agenda was overt.”
Posted by scaramouche on 2005 04 11 at 08:59 PM • permalinkjlchydro - Thanks for the update. As I said, I’ve been out of touch for a while.
I remember the NDP with great fondness - my fellow university students were all ardent advocates. However, are the SoCreds still around? I remember when they were forming governments in BC and, if my memory serves me, Saskatchewan. Or have they faded away?
Posted by Urbs in Horto on 2005 04 11 at 09:12 PM • permalinkI remember the NDP with great fondness - my fellow university students were all ardent advocates.
That political state of affairs remains true to this day.
And I have if on good authority that the Conservative “hidden agenda” involves sending missionaries into space. And super-smart dolphins with bombs.
Now I have to kill you.
Posted by rick mcginnis on 2005 04 11 at 09:24 PM • permalinkPerhaps conservative Australians could find a new home in Canada then?
Polls suggest they might want to be leaving soon.
Posted by mushtaq_omar on 2005 04 11 at 10:23 PM • permalinkYou’d might as well move to France. Take my advice - choose Texas.
Posted by rick mcginnis on 2005 04 11 at 10:36 PM • permalinkHave any of these fevered expatriates actually expatriated yet?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 11 at 10:36 PM • permalinkMaybe we can get Peter Watson to visit Australia and prevent a brutal slaughter ...
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 11 at 10:42 PM • permalinkHey Murph, I was born in Australia.
If that is a source of irritation for you, then frankly I couldn’t care less.
I feel that the point of my original post was a valid response. I would also like to be able to post my opinions without having blatantly racist slurs used against me.
Posted by mushtaq_omar on 2005 04 11 at 11:19 PM • permalinkWhat’s the matter, Murph? Did you decide Charlie Johnson had cornered the market on being villified as a race-baiter long enough and you want to get Tim a little of the action, too? Did you decide to save Kevin Drum the trouble of making crap up?
That comment didn’t add anything, to say the least.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 11 at 11:25 PM • permalinkWell mushtaq, I may be wrong, but I do not recollect anyone of conservative bent chucking a wobbly whenever the labour party wins elections and threatening to leave the country (and if they did, it would have been along the lines of ‘Tahiti sounds nice!’).
One day the ALP will get a clue and end up being elected (or the Coalition lose through eneptness and the ALP win in spite of themselves), but I don’t think the hordes of RWDBs will be seeking to leave the country. It will be too much fun sitting around moaning about it, or laughing at the latest stupidity masquerading as Government policy.You’re right entropy, the RWDB aren’t as quick to threaten to leave the country. I acknowledge that, and admit the left are prone to tantrum.
My jibe was directed at Mr. Blair, who in the process of pointing out that “liberal” Canada appears to be changing colours, makes no mention of the small shift the other way in Australia.
Posted by mushtaq_omar on 2005 04 11 at 11:46 PM • permalinkmushtaq — And why is Tim Blair under any obligation to make mention of the small shift the other way in Australia. That is not the phenomenon he was talking about.
And I have to say your comment sounds like a bit of whistling past the graveyard, much as here in the states the least disagreement between two Republicans leads to frantic headlines about a Republican coalition crack-up…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2005 04 11 at 11:55 PM • permalinkmushtaq, I seem to remember that the Labor party would’ve won an election had it been held in June, July or August last year. I wouldn’t get too excited about a small swing to them.
Besides, the next election is 2007 - more than enough time for Beazley (or whoever the leader is that year) to totally screw it up again.
Posted by Rachel Corrie's Flatmate on 2005 04 12 at 12:14 AM • permalinkI feel that the point of my original post was a valid response.
Nup, your wrong. As entopy pointed out, its a predominantly leftist action to spit the dummy, pull their petticotes over their heads and dump their own country when the democrat system works against them. Your post tried to shift the point away from the threads focus - i.e. the loser lefties trying to find their utopian fields (a fairly typical tactic)
I would also like to be able to post my opinions without having blatantly racist slurs used against me.
Yes and I’d hope Andrea would be having a bit of a natter to the commentor over that bit of crap.
from the same report:
“But John Howard maintained a clear lead as preferred prime minister, leading Mr Beazley 52 to 31 per cent.”
Mustaq - As for Conservatives leaving if the ALP regains power - I doubt it. Its mainly lefties who whine and threaten to take their toys and go home when things go against them. Conservatives would simply wait until the ALP screwed up the country yet again and the Australian people voted them out.
Dee and Michael,
I acknowledged in post number 41 that the left are more prone to tantrums.
As far as Howard still being the overwhelming preferred PM, I’m not sure how to explain that one.
The polls indicating Labor’s small lead are on a two party preferred basis. My understanding is this takes into account all preferences. Perhaps, there are many people who don’t vote labor, but for minor parties and independents, whose preferences flow to Labor eventually.
Is that close?
Posted by mushtaq_omar on 2005 04 12 at 01:00 AM • permalinkMushtaq, no doubt this has been addressed in this and other forums by people who are better informed than me, but polls such as these come with a margin of error (typically around plus or minus 3%). Given it has the ALP on 51% - the margin of error could mean that they are really at 54% or they could be at 48%.
Newspoll is pretty reliable (within the margin of error) as opposed to AC Nielson but I’d take polls with a grain of salt especially when they’re this close.
Posted by Art Vandelay on 2005 04 12 at 01:21 AM • permalinkThe question is usually the hypothetical:
“If an election were held today…..”
They seem to do well in these polls more often than not.
The problem for the ALP comes when the hypothetical becomes a reality in the actual polling place.
Remember that Latham was the “great white hope” for the ALP coming to slay the “evil” Howard.
Where is he now?
Actually, the Newspoll lead is pretty-piss poor for Labor compared to the leads Beazley used to get back in his Halcyon days pre-2001 election.
Posted by Quentin George on 2005 04 12 at 02:17 AM • permalinkHolding opinion polls, six months after an election is like, pissing into the wind.
Posted by deadparrot on 2005 04 12 at 03:02 AM • permalinkI think entropy should get extra points for the imperial leather reference in post 40.
Oh & Omar the explanantion for the preferred prime minister poll? Maybe, just maybe, those polled preferred Howard over the Western Windbag.
Posted by Just Another Bloody Lawyer on 2005 04 12 at 03:44 AM • permalinkThis Mushtalk Omo, you want I should fix them?
Posted by Lucky Nutsacks on 2005 04 12 at 04:33 AM • permalinkIgnore the polls. They’re crap.
Truer words have never been spoken.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2005 04 12 at 05:35 AM • permalinkMushtaq was not “whistling past the graveyard” but was “trailing his cloak”.
When we have lost the ability to accept the outcome of an election and wait for the next opportunity to vote, we will stand condemned.
Until then, it would be as well to acknowledge that Australians have been extremely good at accepting the ups and downs of democracy. Violence, and particularly armed violence, has not been a feature of our domestic political scene.
For now, we deserve to be proud of that. Any who take us to task on this, or any similar tack regarding democracy, need to be coming from a squeaky clean place.
Any who take us down the path towards violence should be dealt with appropriately.Murph knows that racial slurs are a banning offense, or he will if he does it again. You owe Mr. Mushtaq-omar an apology, murph. Just think, if you hadn’t left your ill-considered comment, you wouldn’t have that humiliating stroke against you. Way to go, dude! (That’s sarcasm, in case anyone can’t tell.)
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 04 12 at 06:45 AM • permalinkCanadian conservatives take over Australian blog! How cool is that!
Oh sure. You say that now. But what happens when they take over Mopngolia. And then Alberta. And other countries like that. What comes next?
Mainstreet USA, that’s what. We have to nip this Canadian imperialism in the bud now.
Posted by wronwright on 2005 04 12 at 01:31 PM • permalinkI for one am willing to go to Canada to stop this naked act of aggression. Imperialistic aggression. By what apparently are warmongers.
My problem though is, well, I’m an American and consequently, I have absolutely no idea where Canada is. Can anybody help me here?
Posted by wronwright on 2005 04 12 at 05:07 PM • permalink1. I’m sorry that I suggested MO wears a towel on his head (except for when he dries his head after taking a shower).
2. He is stupid and for that I will not and cannot apologise.
3. I hope he emigrates because he pisses me off (not much different from his original suggestion hey?)
4. Muslim countries are 100% shit pits.
Any questions?
Any questions?
Yeah. How do you know number four?
Lesson one: always stick to what you know. Lesson two: the cure for foot-in-mouth is not to swallow. Lesson three: stay on fucking topic, please. The topic here is Canada.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2005 04 12 at 07:08 PM • permalinkYeah. How do you know number four?
Probably because I’ve been been to more than a few. As for the rest: Take a look around some time - Westerners aren’t exactly beating the doors down at the Syrian and Egyptian consulates trying to get residency visas.
Lesson 1: I do
Lesson 2: Wow! Deep…
Lesson 3: I was responding to his suggestion that Australian “conservatives” emigrate.
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