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NEWS BRIEFLETS
* An experiment involving spiders and gravy somehow goes horribly wrong.
* Ensnared in a brawl over internet anonymity are a shy lawyer, a television presenter I’ve never previously heard of, and other anonymous entities. Check the comments threads; legal threats abound.
* Hunter S. Thompson’s widow is launching a new magazine.
* Venezuelans are turning out in huge numbers to vote for Hugo Chavez.
* Smoking is good for you. Well, it is if you don’t smoke; you get to share in the billions in taxes paid annually by smokers, who only take back a measly $700 million per year in state-funded healthcare. Yobbo is fuming. Additional smoke-themed notions from William Young.
* Abbie—correction; Albert—Hoffman turns 100 on Wednesday. (Abbie Hoffman topped himself in 1989.)
* “This scabies-afflicted camel should be cast out!” “Abd Al-Halim Khaddam is a man who has no manly traits!” High-level political debate from Syria.
* Mother Sheehan’s DIY guide to pointless dissent: “Anybody could do what we did in Crawford, Texas. We just went down and sat down. We have to get so freakin’ fed up with what’s going on that we all go and sit down.” Hey ... I’m sitting down right now! Fight the power, crazy ditch lady!
Threats of legal action? With any luck we hopefully have the beginning of another Thom Lyons scene playing out. I’ll be saying my prays for it to be so.
Posted by Hank Reardon on 2006 01 08 at 04:54 AM • permalinkI think the “television presenter” thing is a hoax set up by internet troll Bridgit Gread who posts here as “Emily P”
See this link
The summary is Emily had one of her friends send an email of a false weblog posting purportedly by Jackie Quist of Channel 7 (even to the extent of making a false email address of “jackeeq@hotmail.com”) Unfortunately Quist’s good name has been dragged down by Bridgit Gread/Emily P.
The moral character of Bridgit Gread/Emily P is shocking. Have a read of the link it shows how shockingly immoral some people can be.
Posted by Ralph Malph on 2006 01 08 at 05:29 AM • permalinkMeanwhile in the Canadian election…(I know, who gives a…)
Sources say, for example, it was a staff member whose close study of the 2004 Australian election resulted in the importing of certain tactics from Prime Minister John Howard’s campaign.
Wish us luck.
The summary is Emily had one of her friends send an email of a false weblog posting purportedly by Jackie Quist of Channel 7 (even to the extent of making a false email address of “jackeeq@hotmail.com”) Unfortunately Quist’s good name has been dragged down by Bridgit Gread/Emily P.
Sadly, Ralph Malph is telling lies. The weblog extract sent to his offsider contained only the initials ‘JQ’ and discussed Channel Seven; the recipient merely added 2 and 2 and came up with 5. What followed is documented in my blog; note who does the ‘dragging down’ of any individual concerned. I’m sure Tim will vouch for the necessity for all journalists - professionals or amateurs - to thoroughly check their sources, lest they make fools of themselves. Cheers to all.
This is the email attachment I received:
Hi everyone,
I’ve had some fun this week across at the nest of vipers that is Tim Blair’s site. It’s a hateful right-wing place where the merest sign of dissent or disagreement gets you instantly branded as a ‘lefty’, ‘leftard’, ‘stupid’, ‘rude’ and even (as a couple of their posters claimed) incapable of reading or writing English and suffering from a psychological disorder. I’ve posted there before, as you know, but it’s good to revisit occasionally to remind myself of what I’m ‘missing’. You can peruse my little visit and note the response at http://timblair.net/ee/index.php/weblog/comments/packer_attackers (note: if you can’t guess, I’m using the Emily P. persona, as the Bridgit one has been banned from there).
On a related topic, hasn’t it been an interesting week in the media following the death of Kerry Packer? I’m currently in the last days of my holiday, however I spoke to someone from work who said that the response there had varying from moribund politeness to barely-restrained exultation. It’ll be interesting to see how the Seven-Nine feud pans out now that Kerry is gone, considering Junior seems rather media-shy and more interested in the empire’s gambling revenue. On Kerry himself, the media coverage has been predictable: forget the faults and raise high the adulation. I’ll say no more on it here as I’ve said plenty elsewhere.
The last day of my vacation will be spent with Mia; we’re redecorating her room. It seems glow-in-the-dark is going to be in vogue … for the next month or two, at least. Until next week, love to all.
JQ
.(JavaScript must be enabled to view this email address)That is it word for word.
Emily P you set up Jackie Quist. Your victimisation of her is shameful.
Posted by Ralph Malph on 2006 01 08 at 05:52 AM • permalinkEmily P you have been banned before under a different name it is time for you to be banned again.
Posted by Ralph Malph on 2006 01 08 at 06:05 AM • permalink“I’m not sure how you came by this information, though I have my suspicions. If you attempt to publish my real name and associate it
with anything, I will take action that will leave you very embarrassed indeed. Think very carefully about who are you dealing with; I will take any measure necessary to protect my privacy.”—the elegit ‘Bridgit Gread/ Emily P’
So at that time you still maintained the hoax with no denial about not being Jackie Quest.You say “I have my suspicions” funny I thought it was a setup. Shouldn’t you have known the source if you planted it??
Gary it is word games from Bridgit again. Its a set up for which she takes credit but no responsibility. That is the way the leftist mind works. They want the power but not the responsibilty to use it wisely.
Posted by Ralph Malph on 2006 01 08 at 08:27 AM • permalinkAs merely a disinterested observer, I draw Ms Emily’s attention to the blogfight between Tex and Thom.
Greeny wannabe veteran hero bitchslapped unmercifully from pillar to post, digging frantically deeper, only to be “whacked” again and again.
Many readers pointing and laughing at the feeble threats from the Green candidate. Evem made Tim’s best quotes.
Similar fate awaits Ms E, methinks.
Posted by Pedro the Ignorant on 2006 01 08 at 08:38 AM • permalinkRalph Malph, I would like to know what makes you think Emily P has been “banned” from here under a “different name.” If you know the other nom-de-stupids she has used please tell me, as I am the administrator of this site.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 01 08 at 09:44 AM • permalinkThe other nom-de-stupid of Emily P is Bridgit Gread.
Posted by Ralph Malph on 2006 01 08 at 10:00 AM • permalinkNope, no “Bridgit Gread” anywhere in my banned list. She must have used some other version of the name. Or perhaps she is mistaking this site for that of another.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 01 08 at 10:59 AM • permalinkI really don’t understand this whole thing at all. Emily P - like most of Tim’s other visitors - uses a pseudonym. Why is there an obsession to discover who she and Anonymous Lefty really are? Who gives a toss? Having only come across Emily in the Packer thread, I have to say that, yes, she may be irritating - but principally in the manner in which all women who can handle themselves occasionally irritate men. My only regret about that stupid debate was my theatrical use of “love” and “dear” etc. It was meant to echo her use of “darling” on somebody else but, as it happens (following a re-read), she was patronised first. Therefore, I would only be interested in repeating that I considered Emily and Anonymous Lefty wrong, somewhat infantile and tastelessly oafish on the death of a great Australian: Kerry Bulmore Packer.
This so funny. Did the internet just arrive in Australia? ALL of you people are acting like a bunch of AOLers who just got out of the cocoon. “Nice”, you need to quit your idiotic vendetta of outing screen names, and “Emily”, you need to quit trolling internet forums.
There is one hell of a lot better things ALL of you can do with your time. So grow up and start doing them.
Posted by Some0Seppo on 2006 01 08 at 11:41 AM • permalinkThere are pseudonyms and there are pseudonyms. Some people use fake names simply to protect their privacy, because they prefer to keep their online activities separate from their regular lives, work for people with opposite political views who don’t take kindly to dissidents in their midst, and so on. Others use fake IDs to stir up trouble—for instance, they’ll take on several different “personas” and pretent to start fights on internet websites. Or else they’ll use their fake IDs as a pretext for claiming spurious victimhood—“I have to conceal my identity online or else I’ll be fired (when this is actually not true)/be attacked and vilified and my good name dragged in the mud/dragged off to the camps.” Or else they use their fake IDs to claim authority they don’t actually have: “I may call myself LeftyBooger here but in real life I’m a (insert authoritative position relevant to the discussion) so I am right and you are wrong.”
It seems that Anonymous Lefty abused his pseudonym privilege in some way, and that is why this drive to find out who he or she really is. As fpr Emily P/Bridget Gread/whoever, she is simply annoying—personally, I don’t care who she really is. I doubt she is anyone of significance, even in her real life.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 01 08 at 12:01 PM • permalinkObserver #26: thank you for your comments, good to see that you can appreciate a good sting.
CL #28: thanks for tracking back and acknowledging that you were unduly patronising. We might disagree but that’s where it ends. Sorry if I was rude to you.
And Andrea, as is generally the case you haven’t got the faintest idea what you are talking about. Just execute one of the very few things you’re equipped for and ban me; after all, that’s what your real significance is: a glorified turnkey.
Sorry CL I was thinking of this. You were just pointing out the irony nothing more.
“David, just a point for clarity’s sake: when you accuse pseudonymous commenters of being cowards, are you doing so as “David” or “Omar”?”
Have you been banned before Emily ? or are you trying to join the collective with MrLefty.
I suppose, Gary, in certain circles, being banned from “wingnut” forums gives adolescent leftist political masturbators some sort of “‘net cred”...
Posted by Spiny Norman on 2006 01 08 at 01:31 PM • permalink“Emily P”: No, I just threatened litigation if my real name was ever posted.
Greetings from the desk of Lipstein, Lipstein, Armstrong and Zeppenwolf, attorneys at law, representing she whose name may or may not be “Emily P”.
Anyone here who reveals Emily P’s true hair color will die a hideous legal death, Allah willing. Thank you.
Posted by zeppenwolf on 2006 01 08 at 02:18 PM • permalinkEmily, you’re right that I have no idea what you are talking about. You state “I have been banned from here” under the name Bridgit Gread. I searched through my list of banned members. I did not find “Bridgit Gread” among them. Now you may have been banned at one point, but if so you were not banned under that name. I cannot read your mind, and I am not going to search among thousands of IP addresses just to match them up just to figure out who you were when I supposedly banned you. Frankly you’re not worth the trouble.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 01 08 at 02:22 PM • permalinkI actually doubt Miss P was banned at all. She merely wishes she was, so she could score points (as Spiny says) with her buddies.
Love her threats of litigation, zeppenwolf. Thom status approaches!
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 01 08 at 02:24 PM • permalinkAnyone here who reveals Emily P’s true hair color will die a hideous legal death, Allah willing.
Tricky business. Dynel comes in so many colors…
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 08 at 02:47 PM • permalinkRebecca, I noticed the unrealized joke potential for the title of that magazine. Think about the husband, coming in from the mailbox, and telling the wife, “Honey, here’s the mail, and I got my first Woody!”
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 01 08 at 03:07 PM • permalink#42 Richard, spoke to a friend of mine at The Age last week; he tells me you’re often sending in ham-fisted op-eds with chirrupping e-mails: “Please publish! Please publish!” Stick at it buddy, you’ll get there. And in the meantime, just think of the valuable community service you’re providing: you’re giving some Fairfax subs a much-needed laugh.
#40 Andrea
“I searched through my list of banned members. I did not find “Bridgit Gread” among them… I am not going to search among thousands of IP addresses just to match them up.”
I find it quite amusing that you have ‘thousands of IPs’ banned on this site, Andrea. Sorry you couldn’t find mine amongst all those.
It’s a hateful right-wing place where the merest sign of dissent or disagreement gets you instantly branded as a ‘lefty’, ‘leftard’, ‘stupid’, ‘rude’ and even (as a couple of their posters claimed) incapable of reading or writing English and suffering from a psychological disorder.
You mean like this?
Oh, that is priceless - it’s Ralph’s responsibility to find Emily’s supporting evidence. And if he doesn’t, she sneers that he’s stupid and lazy. What a perfect example of Leftardary; “Hey, I’ve got some ideas - you go and do the work, stupid prole.”
Lazy, worthless, condescending oxygen thieves.
Sorry, sunshine, but “the merest sign of dissent or disagreement” doesn’t get you labeled a stupid, rude, lazy, condescending oxygen thief. Being a stupid, rude, lazy, condescending oxygen thief does. Don’t hide behind the “brave dissent” banner when people call you out for being an asshole.
And BTW, when you make an argument based on alleged facts, it’s rather poor form to demand that someone else look them up and infer that they’re lazy and stupid if they don’t. Is that really so hard to understand?
Oh, and one more thing - if you act like an asshole, and people treat you like an asshole, that is not their problem. That does not make them “vipers.” That’s like saying that someone who kicks you in the teeth because you puched them in the nose is “violent.”
You’re a horrible, nasty, immature little troll. That’s not our problem. It’s yours. Now fuck off.
Emily — You are a liar.
I have never submitted editorials or any other sort of feature writing to The Age, or to any other Australian publication. My work in the US and Europe keeps me quite busy.
In the interests of demonstrating your own honesty and integrity, please provide the name of this person at the Age who you claim supports this embarrassing lie of yours.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 08 at 04:41 PM • permalinkEmily P(issant)...
Yep, must be, unless you can explain how a native-born American who’s never been to Australia wound up a former minister of finance in Victoria with anobseesion on deepening shipping channels.
I’m giving you the reluctant benefit of the doubt on the Age’s inability to spell the poor bastard’s name the same way twice, since that seems to be a lefty journalistic tradition.
I repeat. You’re a liar, and your source either doesn’t exist or lies as well. What’s his, her or its name?
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 08 at 04:59 PM • permalinkI say, bloody good wrangle. Too byzantine for me to follow, though. The only thing I really take away from this is that Emily P. thinks we’re “vipers”. Oh yes, and “cesspit dwellers” (Do vipers live in cesspits? I merely ask).
Let me know when she stops doing Rosilyn Russell’s character “Sylvia” from the 1939 movie, “The Women”; the catty cracks are wearing thin. And they don’t ring true; in reality I bet she’s more the sweet-natured Norma Shearer type, just miscast.
#56
My source was honest and reliable, she just had the wrong Dick: this one’s the Australian economics consultant, not the American-with-attitude. A genuine mistake and I apologise for thinking you might be an economist.#57
paco, pardon my generalisation - of course not all are ‘vipers’, whether here or anywhere.I find it quite amusing that you have ‘thousands of IPs’ banned on this site, Andrea.
Hm. Didn’t realize I had to be literal when I replied to Emily. But in the service of truth, justice, and the Emily way let me reassure her that I exaggerated just a wee bit.
I find it quite amusing that a hyena and a spider monkey mated and produced you.
Dave! You made me get crumbs on my new monitor! LOL
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 01 08 at 05:20 PM • permalink#58
No, you had the wrong “Dick”.
First you said: “#42 Richard, spoke to a friend of mine at The Age last week; he tells me you’re often sending in ham-fisted op-eds with chirrupping e-mails:”
then you said: “#56 My source was honest and reliable, she just had the wrong Dick:”
Quit lying, and admit you just ASSumed it was the same guy and made an ass of yourself with your original, unfunny snark towards Richard.
JeffS, you’re a man much like my husband. Unfortunately, so is Dave S. I hope wronwright remembered to restock the room freshener.
LOL! But not the Dave S similarity, natch….
Anyone notice that Emily P is back, and is diverting a thread again? Reminds me of “Miranda Divide”, a spectacularly stupid troll that still pops in on occasion.
Ignore the troll, folks. “She” is back for a little more fun, and there’s nothing less fun for trolls than being ignored by their betters. Encouragement for this level of arrogance and anger is not recommended. No matter how much fun the process of smacking self-righteous lefties is…...
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 01 08 at 06:02 PM • permalinkIgnore the troll, folks. “She” is back for a little more fun, and there’s nothing less fun for trolls than being ignored by their betters. Encouragement for this level of arrogance and anger is not recommended.
Quite right. I will leave Emily with a fearsome “I know you are, but what am I?”, and all future replies will consist solely of “Yawn.”
Ignore the troll, folks.
And Jeff S, would you believe that I’ve actually gotten into another argument with Ender, over at Quiggen’s “The Debate is Over” thread? I’m a masochist. I have to stop. It’s the same crap - I ask him a simple question (I even made it multiple choice!) and he responds with bloviating obfuscations about 1.2 degree temperature rises over Antarctic glaciers in even-numbered non-leap-years.
It’ll be interesting to see how the Seven-Nine feud pans out now that Kerry is gone
It starts tonight. Today Tonight (Channel 7 at 6:30pm) are laying the boot into filthy rich kids born “with the silver spoon in their mouth”.
Last night’s promos featured slow motion shots of an unimpressed James Packer.
Dave S., The Real JeffS — it tells you all you need to know about Emily P(issant): she doesn’t even recall what’s she posted to us previously. If she did, she would have remembered that she already knew what I do for a living. Ah, well. On to a topical post.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 08 at 09:59 PM • permalinkOn the other hand, does this mean I can dun Fairfax for a check? ‘cus I hear they pay out the ass, and someone owes me for the trauma of discovering my doppelganger is an unemployed leftie politician.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 08 at 10:04 PM • permalinkAnd before anybody gives me any stick about it, wronwright’s doppelganger has been missing since we sent it to infiltrate Woodstock ‘96.
Posted by richard mcenroe on 2006 01 08 at 10:05 PM • permalinkrichard, send Fairfax a bill, and make sure they know Emily authorized the charge.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 01 08 at 11:02 PM • permalinkFrankly, PW, I would be surprised if Emily is good at anything. As da Vinci once noted (paraphrased), some people are good for naught but producing shit and noise.
Dave S: This excludes you dropping a yam. You did it for Tibet, after all.
Posted by The_Real_JeffS on 2006 01 08 at 11:04 PM • permalinkAndrea? Emily P made a polite request, to wit:
Just execute one of the very few things you’re equipped for and ban me;
Now I know you’re busy, and life’s too short for dealing with trivia. I also know she’s providing everyone with a lot of harmless amusement. But she did ask.
Sorry, I don’t have a clue what she’s going on about other than that, I just saw that line and switched off the noise.
Zoe: I’m just waiting for the Word from Above.
Posted by Andrea Harris, Administrator on 2006 01 09 at 01:00 AM • permalink40 Cruella:
I searched through my list of banned members. I did not find “Bridgit Gread” among them. Now you may have been banned at one point, but if so you were not banned under that name. I cannot read your mind, and I am not going to search among thousands of IP addresses just to match them up just to figure out who you were when I supposedly banned you. Frankly you’re not worth the trouble.
He’s probably not worth the trouble, but if you check under “FatNigger” and work out the chronology, I’ll bet it works out. Same style, for sure.
Posted by Stoop Davy Dave on 2006 01 09 at 05:22 PM • permalink
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